Doral Boats
Ted Nugent
CRAP
buck183
Buck
#183
"Ted Nugent" <t...@nugent.net> wrote in message
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Ted Nugent
CANADIAN PUSSIES RIGHT NOW I Have a 35' that they had too much resin in fuel
tank holding are and the fuel tank didn't seat properly, was out in Delaware
bay hit wake a little hard and fuel tank moved and damn near blew up what a
piece of CRAP!!!! fuel tank is that last thing that should ever move.
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Sylvain Sirois
C'est certain que c'est une intervention pour le bien de l'humanité.
Bonne journée quand même.
Sylvain
"Ted Nugent" <t...@nugent.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
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Sylvain Sirois
il brise, je ne blâme pas les maudits américains impérialiste...
Par contre, les espèces de crétin dans ton genre, je leur chie sur la tête.
Sylvain
P.S. Es-tu au moins capable de comprendre ce que je te dis ?
"Ted Nugent" <t...@nugent.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
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JR North
kind of personality could possibly hold down a job long
enough to buy one.
JR
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jps
hell didn't you purchase an American-built boat? Did you want to say
something about God being on our side while you're slagging the French
Canadians? You and that other butthole (the idiot who thinks he's
president) will have the entire world turned against us.
Go play yer guitar or maybe shoot something with your little bow and arrow,
but for god's sake, shut the fuck up.
jps
"Ted Nugent" <t...@nugent.net> wrote in message
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Gould 0738
French for the Anglo ear to get around, (IMO).
However, after just a few days in Montreal I got to the point where I could do
a *very miserable* job of almost reading the tongue. Just enough that I could
probably have wound up in serious trouble with misinterpretation.
For laughs, here's what an ignorant Yank *thinks* your communication says. I
bet I'm a few miles off. :-)
In (comparison/contrast/passing) my (vehicle) a GMC, is built in an American
factory.
>En passant, mon camion, un GMC, il a été fabriqué par un américain.
>Quand
>il brise, je ne blâme pas les maudits américains impérialiste...
When it breaks, I do not blame the American Imperialists
>Par contre, les espèces de crétin dans ton genre, je leur chie sur la tête.
>
(OK, I get pretty lost here)...By contrast, the types of (monstrous/people)
similar to yourself, (off the track completely, something about being over
something else)
>P.S. Es-tu au moins capable de comprendre ce que je te dis ?
Are you capable of understanding when I do this?
(OK, obviously I'm not, but just out of curiosity and for laughs, how close did
I come?) :-)
Eisboch
"Gould 0738" <goul...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> I never studied French, at all, and there's no language any more difficult
than
> French for the Anglo ear to get around, (IMO).
>
>
>
>
tête.
"On the other hand, the types of moron in your kind, I dump for them on the
head."
Eisboch
Skipper
Gould 0738
>The easy way:
>
>http://www.freetranslation.com/
>
>--
>Skipper
That's interesting. Suppose the site translates BS into reality? It would be
consistently useful if it did. :-)
Gould 0738
>head."
>
>
>Eisboch
Hey, thanks! I wasn't too many miles off on the first half of the sentence, but
I missed the second phrase entirely.
Skipper
> Skipper wrote:
>> The easy way:
>> http://www.freetranslation.com/
> That's interesting. Suppose the site translates BS into reality? It would
> be consistently useful if it did. :-)
Inputting "BS" into any good translator will usually produce
"Democrats".
--
Skipper
Gould 0738
>"Democrats".
>
>--
>Skipper
Troll, troll, troll your bait, boldly through the
group........ :-)
Ted Nugent
you read your history book that's just what they are, look what they let
Hitler do till we came to the rescue, rolled over like a bunch of pussies.
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Ted Nugent
want to tell me off say it in English, I can handle it.
"Sylvain Sirois" <ssirois...@nospam.cgocable.ca> wrote in message
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Ted Nugent
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Ted Nugent
French Pussies for wanting US to bail you out then not support US when we
need you.
"Sylvain Sirois" <ssirois...@nospam.cgocable.ca> wrote in message
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RGrew176
In passant, mon camion, a GMC, il to été manufactured pair an américain. Quand
il brise, je ne blâme even them
maudits américains impérialiste..
Even contre, them espèces of crétin dans ton genre, je leur chie south the
tête.
Sylvain
P S. Is your au moins capable of comprendre ce that je I you gave yourself?
From the looks of things the French used in the post is not that good or the
translation site is not that good.
Oh well, only 8 more days until the Detroit Boat Show opens.
75 days to go..
jps
swash buckling hero, GWB -- friend of God, slayer of "Hitlersim." You
deserve one another, I just wish you could have your own little section of
the country reserved for folks who think like you. Would you be okay with
an area comprised of Texas, Mississippi, Louisiana and just for kicks, we'll
throw in Florida and Idaho for nice summer vacations.
The image of the arrogant, idiotic American is being resurrected and
polished by the both of you.
jps
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Gould 0738
>French Pussies for wanting US to bail you out then not support US when we
>need you.
Wowzers!
Both times that France was overrun in the last 100 years, the US sat on the
sidelines until the very *last* possible minute. French reluctance to sign onto
a poorly advised empire building expedition is hardly the same thing as
sitting back, "minding our own business", and trading directly or indirectly
with both sides.
Mick Teahan
> I will admit you have a point about products/country but I'm pissed at you
> French Pussies for wanting US to bail you out then not support US when we
> need you.
We needed the French, briefly, about 225 years ago. Since then, we have no
need for them whatever. The very notion that France is considered by anyone
to be a major player in world affairs in the year 2003 is laughable.
Gould 0738
If it hadn't been for the French fleet blockading and bombarding Cornwallis, we
might well be singing "God Save the Queen" instead of "The Star Spangled
Banner" at football (or, heaven forbid, soccer) games.
jps
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Things change quickly in the world of politics, especially in times of war.
It's not advisable to write anyone off, especially now. You never know when
your weakest ally may play a role in a much larger situation.
They may not be a power player, but they shouldn't be shunned. We're
turning a good part of the world against us with such attitudes.
jps
Sylvain Sirois
"Gould 0738" <goul...@aol.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
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> I never studied French, at all, and there's no language any more difficult
than
> French for the Anglo ear to get around, (IMO).
>
> However, after just a few days in Montreal I got to the point where I
could do
> a *very miserable* job of almost reading the tongue. Just enough that I
could
> probably have wound up in serious trouble with misinterpretation.
>
> For laughs, here's what an ignorant Yank *thinks* your communication says.
I
> bet I'm a few miles off. :-)
>
>
>
> In (comparison/contrast/passing) my (vehicle) a GMC, is built in an
American
> factory.
>
> >En passant, mon camion, un GMC, il a été fabriqué par un américain.
>
For your information, my truck, a GMC, have been built by an american.
>
> >Quand
> >il brise, je ne blâme pas les maudits américains impérialiste...
>
> When it breaks, I do not blame the American Imperialists
>
When it breaks, I do not blame the F... imperialist american
>
>
> >Par contre, les espèces de crétin dans ton genre, je leur chie sur la
tête.
> >
>
But the morons like you i am shitting on their heads.
> (OK, I get pretty lost here)...By contrast, the types of
(monstrous/people)
> similar to yourself, (off the track completely, something about being over
> something else)
>
> >P.S. Es-tu au moins capable de comprendre ce que je te dis ?
>
> Are you capable of understanding when I do this?
Are you eaven able to read what i say ?
>
> (OK, obviously I'm not, but just out of curiosity and for laughs, how
close did
> I come?) :-)
>
You were not to far from reality.
Sylvain
Gould 0738
>
>
>Sylvain
>
I suspect that's a matter of opinion 'round here, but thanks very much anyway.
:-)
Ted Nugent
what we do, we need to stop all aid to all, close the borders and seal them
up with our superior hi tech.news:v3inaot...@corp.supernews.com...
Ted Nugent
read you will enjoy:
Reportedly an actual radio conversation of a US naval ship with Canadian
>authorities off the coast of Newfoundland in October 1995. Radio
>conversation transcript released by the chief of naval operations,
10-10-95:
>
>Canadians: Please divert your course 15 degrees to the south to avoid a
>collision.
>
>Americans: Recommend you divert your course 15 degrees to the north to
>avoid a collision.
>
>Canadians: Negative. You will have to divert your course 15 degrees to the
>south to avoid a collision.
>
>Americans: This is the captain of a US navy ship. I say again, divert YOUR
>course.
>
>Canadians: No, I say again, you divert YOUR course.
>
>Americans: This is the aircraft carrier US Lincoln, the second largest
>ship in the US Atlantic Fleet. We are accompanied with three destroyers,
>three cruisers, and numerous support vessels. I DEMAND that you change
>your course 15 degrees north, I say again, that's one-five degrees north
>or countermeasures will be undertaken to ensure the safety of this ship.
>
>Canadians: This is a lighthouse. Your call.
"Gould 0738" <goul...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Mark - boatbasin.com
> The intelligence you show by slagging all French Canadians is equal to
your
> swash buckling hero, GWB -- friend of God, slayer of "Hitlersim." You
> deserve one another,
JPS: Somehow I missed something here. Where does the poster say anything
about GWB, and how does he fit into the conversation about Doral Boats other
than your consuming hatred of the man. Your starting to sound a little
loose there fella, get a grip on things.
>
>
Mick Teahan
True enough. Or for that matter, if we didn't have the help of Lafayette
training the rag tag troops, no?
jps
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I lost it a long time ago. Thank you for not noticing sooner.
If you read the thread "Getting back to normal" Teddy boy told me to "FU" in
response to my review GWB's incredible butchering of his fine speachwriter's
work.
Sorry if I lost you...
jps
jps
own little resort for whities.
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jps
story hit?
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jps
>
> If you read the thread "Getting back to normal" Teddy boy told me to "FU"
in
> response to my review GWB's incredible butchering of his fine
speachwriter's
> work.
>
> Sorry if I lost you...
>
> jps
Oh boy, I really am losing it. Make that "speechwriter's."
jps
Skipper
>> I lost it a long time ago.
> Oh boy, I really am losing it. Make that "speechwriter's."
Believe you and your ilk lost it back in November...But never fear, you
really won.
--
Skipper
Rich Forman
> Ted, Americans build some of the crapiest products in the world. Why the
> hell didn't you purchase an American-built boat? Did you want to say
> something about God being on our side while you're slagging the French
> Canadians? You and that other butthole (the idiot who thinks he's
> president) will have the entire world turned against us.
>
> Go play yer guitar or maybe shoot something with your little bow and arrow,
> but for god's sake, shut the fuck up.
>
> jps
>
So what, are you guys saying you think this is really the Nuge? Wow
I'd love to get a chance to tell him what a joke I think he but this
probably isn't the place, it'd be a little o/t.
richforman
jps
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> So what, are you guys saying you think this is really the Nuge? Wow
> I'd love to get a chance to tell him what a joke I think he but this
> probably isn't the place, it'd be a little o/t.
>
> richforman
Doesn't matter. Anyone trading on his name probably identifies with his
hayseed roots.
jps
Don White
next you can tackle Australian.
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Don White
undefended northern border. Piss us off and you'd better not sleep soundly
at night.
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Don White
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Don White
Americans.
I could be wrong.
If you want a good car...buy a Toyota Corolla.
<Its Me> wrote in message news:dk7m3vkqdsap48fds...@4ax.com...
> Don't know about that. I guess you missed the "Americans are just a
> bunch of gun crazy cowboys" debate that raged here for months. From
> what I have heard, they are a bunch of unarmed socialists, and proud
> of it.
>
> The crappiest GM vehicles I have owned were Fabrique au Canada.
> Attributable to Chance? Probably not.
>
>
Raymond T. Lowe
installation. Never heard a lighthouse keeper capable of plotting
courses/tracks/speed/etc with the naked eyeball. Unless the
keeper was clairvoyant, they would not know the task force
was intent on maintaining a course directly into the rocks. If
they were that close, the conversation would not resemble
anything close to that presented. With that many ships, there
are dozens of eyeballs on radar screens, lookouts, the bridge
watch, watch-on-deck, etc. And, if the track were dangerous
or anywhere near a landmass, there would be additional
personnel closed up and manning key positions. Not too
mention the officer-of-the-watch on any of the escort ships
would immediately question any danger.
Sorry to ruin it for you...
RT
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RGrew176
>We needed the French, briefly, about 225 years ago. Since then, we have no
>need for them whatever. The very notion that France is considered by anyone
>to be a major player in world affairs in the year 2003 is laughable.
In the late 1770's and early 1780's the French would have allied with anyone
fighting against the British Empire. The alliance with the Americans was purely
and simply politics. There was beneficial for them to help us at that time.
Nothing more, nothing less.
73 days to go..
Anyone who thinks old age is golden must not have had a very exciting youth.
Don White
desperate need to be seen as good guys on the world stage ...so we wouldn't
dare offend anyone. People come over and land in this port hidden in
containers all the time. We put them on welfare, hire lawyers to represent
them...etc.
Very few are shipped back home.
Don't you and California have the same problem on your borders?
Henry <ban...@monkeys.da.ru> wrote in message > If have so many armed and
pumped up Canadians up there then how
> about getting them to stop all the illegal aliens from China and the
> like pouring through your borders? It might be a constructive use
> of that powerful force.
>
Don White
My home city, Halifax, was founded to protect the New England colonies from
the strong French presence in Cape Breton 1749.
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Eisboch
"Don White" <wh...@nsknospm.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> That's right.
> My home city, Halifax, was founded to protect the New England colonies
from
> the strong French presence in Cape Breton 1749.
>
Halifax ... where?
Eisboch
jps
crap. Life reduced to clever little sound bites.
jps
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jps
telepathically about konservative initiatives to screw people once they're
born.
jps
"Henry" <ban...@monkeys.da.ru> wrote in message
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> Actually California and Texas cracked down quite a bit and tightened
> up the border areas and now the weakest link is Arizona. They are
> pouring through there and all the liberals are screaming because the
> illegals have to go through all of that "harsh" desert environment.
JIMinMA©
"Eisboch" <r_er...@bellsouthnot.net> wrote in message
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:
: "Don White" <wh...@nsknospm.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
:
Gould 0738
>telepathically about konservative initiatives to screw people once they're
>born.
Shhh. Don't confuse the reactionaries.
A good percentage of them need to believe that all liberals think exactly
alike, and all blacks, jews, gays,
muslims, and everybody else except WASP Republicans does too. You hear it all
the time, "The liberals all want this or that!..do this ior that!...think this
or that!......"
If there were more than a single opinion among groups that were not WASP
Republicans, then the reactionaries among
that group would be mentally overtaxed trying to keep track of more than a
single thing at a time.
Just be glad that so many on the right don't know a darn thing their
spinmeisters and propagandists haven't told them. Sheep are like that, they
rely a whole lot on the shepherd. If you don't kow where your opposition really
is, it's all the easier to be blindsided. :-)
Don White
jps <tr...@thedump.com> wrote in message
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jps
> In article <20030201125352...@mb-mn.aol.com>,
goul...@aol.com (Gould 0738) wrote:
>
> >>"All the liberals" Yes, all of us. Every single one of us. We
communicate
> >>telepathically about konservative initiatives to screw people once
they're
> >>born.
> >
> >Shhh. Don't confuse the reactionaries.
> >A good percentage of them need to believe that all liberals think exactly
> >alike, and all blacks, jews, gays,
> >muslims, and everybody else except WASP Republicans does too. You hear it
all
> >the time, "The liberals all want this or that!..do this ior that!...think
this
> >or that!......"
>
> are screaming because the illegals have to go through all of that "harsh"
If you weren't so freakin' dense you would've realized that the offense was
"all" not "liberals." Your brainpower exceeds our lowest estimates.
jps
Don White
Eisboch <r_er...@bellsouthnot.net> wrote in message news:h7S_9.23019$%>
Halifax ... where?
>
>
> Eisboch
>
>
jps
> In article <v3nu8ec...@corp.supernews.com>, "jps" <tr...@thedump.com>
wrote:
>
> >Are you sure your name isn't Bill O'Reilly? What a bunch of superficial
> >crap. Life reduced to clever little sound bites.
>
this
> country and is part of a dying breed. Because you just don't get it...
>
> >jps
>
> Cheers!
Absolutely correct. We're not in power because, unlike "some" in the other
camp, we think for ourselves and aren't as easily swayed by Rush/O'Reilly's
clever little sound bites and easy solutions to complex problems.
Our fearless leader wants to swashbuckle his way through world politics.
Look what a fine little mess he's created in North Korea with his "axis of
evil" rhetoric.
Nobody ever lost a dollar underestimating the intelligence of the American
public. Congratulations, you're in the majority.
jps
jps
stooge for Rupert Murdoch. Was an actor and still is. Makin' a lot of
money off of stupid people who feed on his pabulum.
jps
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jps
Wait 'til they find out we've got a secret handshake. They're going to be
so jealous.
jps
Mark Browne
Consider Afghanistan - our soldiers control a tiny area around the capitol
and a few bases along a proposed oil pipeline route. The land outside the
city is controlled by whatever thug has a gang with guns. In ten or twenty
years we will wish we had never heard of it. The little skirmishes are
already starting to crop up in the news. We did this sort of thing in
Somalia and ended up running away with our tails between our legs. And where
*is* that bin-Laden fellow anyway? Do you remember when it was important to
catch him? Are we any safer? All the bad guys went off to Pakistan (yep,
they have nukes there) and Somalia - where we have the aforementioned lousy
record of asserting influence. I imagine the terrorist training camps are
humming at full speed again! What's to stop them?
Iraq is not the same as Kuwait. One was on seized land (easy come, easy go),
the other is home territory. We bombed 'em last time -but we did *not* try
to invade them. Most people today are much too young to remember the Vietnam
daily death toll on the evening news. When that cranks up again what little
support there is for the adventuring to make the world safe for oil
companies will evaporate. The oil company sock puppet will start loosing
the high popularity figures.
If the war tom-toms sounds good to you, they may sound absolutely great to
folks scheming in other hot-spots. When we have our hands full with a real
war in Iraq the scum will come out to play! Remember Afghanistan? The
one-eyed mullah is still on the loose. Soul is in easy cannon range of the
DMZ. A few shells in the Kimpo airport could change the nature of the
negotiations in the region. They may be poor and hungry, but they do have
lots of guns, and they do have friends in China. Lest we forget, China has a
hankering for Taiwan, the maker of much of our technology. If you get bored,
try to figure out how much of our high tech would go away if we lost our
supply of goods from China and Taiwan. The last time I was there I saw the
production arm of most of Americas electronics industry. You may not
remember this, but a single fire in one plastics plant in Asia managed to
bring a halt to the entire electronics industry for many weeks. Last time
they backed down - they might not feel that way if we were busy. Say with
North Korea *and* Iraq *and* Afghanistan. The smirking chimp has not really
shown much power to think this one through!
As it stands, thirty percent of my federal tax buck is going to pay debt
service for Reagan's deficit spending. Reagan's much heralded (and very
expensive) fall of the Soviet block has freed up bunches of nukes for
diversion to terrorists. The guards of all this have not been paid real
money for years - A bucket of petro-dollars might look pretty good to a
fellow standing watch over a moldy old launcher. That's what we bought for 5
trillion bucks. Instead of the Democratic "Tax and Spend," the Republican
Mantra is "Borrow and Spend" Bush is already hard at work trying to pump up
the debt some more! After the public gets a taste of ballooning debt service
to pay for the tax cuts for rich, they may *start* to get a clue.
This will all come as the baby boom starts to retire. The older crowd has
always been a reliable base for the republican party - but many are having
to go back to work because of the rampant piggy-bank smashing. He may not
have brought it on by himself, but he is one of the pack. Do remember that
Bush was among the book-cookers that brought on the whole mess. (ya, I
know - He was 'vetted') Many may see this as letting the inmates run the
asylum. Large numbers of very poor, very pissed off 70 year old workers may
decide that they have had enough. And they may not vote Republican!
Say what you will about federal inefficiencies, it has been a remarkably
good way to get some things done. When the feds stop doing some things -
they won't get done anymore. The working poor will feel the pain as the find
that the cuts in federal spending forces a shift to local taxes, resulting
in a *much* higher total tax bill, and much poorer services.
There really are more poor people then there are rich people. Sadly, more so
every day. The voting demographics will swing as the working poor realize
that they *do* have to vote.
Then another 40 years of democratic party rule!
Mark Browne
P.S. By then, little Bush will have done much to march us away from the
current position of world leadership - perhaps with no turning back. It is
very easy to piss away power and wealth. It is much harder to get them back.
What do you suppose Rome looked like during the time of decline? The best
thing of all will be when people start to longing for the "good old days"
with Bill! As sad as it will be, I will laugh every time I hear that - I
fear it will be often.
<snip>
> > And that is precisely why your favored party is not in power right now
in
> this
> > country and is part of a dying breed. Because you just don't get it...
> >
> > >jps
<snip>
jps
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> Not to worry - enjoy the brief moment in the sun!
Nicely said Mark. Thank you. I like the "borrow and spend" line.
My company did some simulations for the Federal Reserve Bank many years ago.
They were games wherein you could control monetary or fiscal policy
(depending on whether you were the fed or the president). I could always
tell the Republicans because they kept hitting the button to lower taxes
until the economy went into the toilet, then wondered what happened.
Weigh in a little more often and you could help push the world of rec.boats
a little to port.
jps
Center of the Spectrum
political posts? This is sort of like a graffiti wall where it makes you
feel good to have your say, but it does not have any effect in the real
world, or even on our little cyber world.
--
Center of The Spectrum
The one and only truth. The rest of you don't know Jack!
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"jps" <tr...@thedump.com> wrote in message
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Harry Krause
>
>
Err, too. Sheesh.
Eisboch
town near where we live in the summer.
Eisboch
Ted Nugent
Ted Nugent
YOU!
Gould 0738
>Without the Rich this country would be nothing Remember That WE Employee
>YOU!
(nice work on the capital R, Ted)
I watched a re-run of Braveheart recently.
There is a line in that movie I thought was
fairly succinct. The hero is scolding some
Scottish lords who are butt kissing the English king, rather than risk their
titles and estates in a struggle for independence.
He says (paraphrased): You believe that the common people exist only to provide
you with your largesse. I believe that your wealth exists only to assure the
liberty of the people.
Mark Browne
There seems to be a prevailing conservative attitude that if you are poor it
is your own fault - you must be stupid and lazy. If you are rich it must be
because you are smart and hard working, and you deserve it. We can't all be
live a life of idle luxury, someone has to work. It is just that simple. The
question revolves around what the living and working conditions are for
those that actually do the work.
As long as the people that hold the capitol use it to produce useful goods
and services, and pay a fair wage to the actual workers, I think that they
should make as much as they can. After they pay the true costs to produce
the goods and services. This should not be at the expense of the actual
people that toil to produce those goods and services. That is not communism,
that is paying for what you buy - not stealing it.
If I buy it, is should pay for it. For some reason I can't fathom, the
conservative movement seems to view paying the true cost of what you use
seems to be some sort of nutty liberal idea. If a company poisons the ground
water for an entire community there should be no cost to the owners? If
anything, the "government" should be left holding the bag. Why is the
concept of company responsibility for its actions grouped with something
only a nutty liberal environmentalist would ask for? Any conservative care
to explain the logic for this? It sounds like a smoke screen for greed to
me.
There is no reason I can think of to justify why someone should work a 12
hour day and come home to a sick kid that they can't afford health care for.
None. When I lived on the farm learned that you ate AFTER you fed the
animals. There is no reason I can see why the top staff should get a
anything more than hourly wages until *every* worker in the company gets a
good wage. What if you are stupid? It happens. Fifty percent of the
population is of below average intelligence. Someone has to be happy pushing
a broom. If you put a rocket scientist on the job he won't be happy, and
neither will anybody around him. If they work hard, is there any particular
reason they should not be paid. Someone DOES have to sweep the floor.
As to the rather goofy argument that if you paid someone for what they did
then products would cost too much. So? Did this justify slavery before the
invention of mechanized labor? If a burger costs 5 buck after you pay people
to make it - then that's what it costs. The ordinary rules of supply and
demand will take over at that point.
Mark Browne
<snip>
>
> He says (paraphrased): You believe that the common people exist only to
provide
> you with your largesse. I believe that your wealth exists only to assure
the
> liberty of the people.
<snip>
jps
When that question was put to folks what asking what percentile they we in
terms of income, 20% of respondents thought they were part of the 1%!!!
The US had something like 240 billionaires this past year. You one of them?
Have a nice delusional life Ted.
jps
"Ted Nugent" <t...@nugent.net> wrote in message
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jps
> In article <v3po3jc...@corp.supernews.com>, "jps" <tr...@thedump.com>
wrote:
> >My company did some simulations for the Federal Reserve Bank many years
ago.
> >They were games wherein you could control monetary or fiscal policy
> >(depending on whether you were the fed or the president). I could always
> >tell the Republicans because they kept hitting the button to lower taxes
> >until the economy went into the toilet, then wondered what happened.
>
> FACTS:
>
> The stock market started it's decline while a DEMOCRAT was POTUS.
> Nasdaq tanked under Slick Willie's term.
>
> On GWB
> As a Governor of Texas, one of the largest states in the union, he was
able to
> see the changes going on in the economy, and did his part as a Governor
(not
> as an economist) to give his warning to people about the faltering
economy. In
> addition, he saw its promise long before others did, and called it the
> "Clinton Slowdown". -- from 24 Ways the Democrats Lie
>
> >Weigh in a little more often and you could help push the world of
rec.boats
> >a little to port.
> >
> >jps
Let's give George credit for what else happpened or didn't happen in Texas.
Worst environmental record in the country. Pandering to corporate
necessities which are part of all of our downfall. If it were just the
trajectory of Clinton's slowdown, it'd been a lot shallower. It's the
corporate greed of those like Bush who've erased untold wealth in this
country and will continue to fill the coffers of the wealthy while
bankrupting the middle class.
What's your 401K worth these days, Henry?
jps
jps
care about tearing down walls? You want to errect them around this country
but they should be torn down elsewhere?
jps
"Ted Nugent" <t...@nugent.net> wrote in message
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jps
> [SNIP from the 24 ways that Democrats Lie Handbook]]
>
> Speaking to a crowd: If you want to be heard, first be understood; then be
> believed; always elicit an emotional reaction. Democrats know how to speak
to
> crowds. They speak differently than Republicans. They speak to the less
> intelligent members of their audience, not the more intelligent listeners.
> They speak to the emotions of the audience, and thus have less need to
prove
> facts. They speak fewer facts and more unfacts, thus have an easier time
> backing up what they say. They make their opinions sound like facts: e.g.
"the
> police are corrupt", "teachers are underpaid", or "Republicans are
racist".
And Republicans appeal to the greed and selfishness in people. "If they
don't have money, it's not our fault."
Speaking of speaking to the less intelligent in our country? "Supply side
economics will get the country back on its feet."
Speaking of corrupt? "The banking industry needs to be deregulated."
Speaking of lying? I recently looked up the provisions for what's
considered a dividend. If a corporate executive borrows money from the
company and, at some point, decides that he/she cannot pay it back, it
becomes considered a DIVIDEND. Under Bush's new plan, that money would be
NON-TAXABLE. Who do you think the Republicans are looking out for?
Would you like to talk about Iran/Contra? A republican led initiative
featuring the likes of Donald Rumsfeld and many more from the current cast
of characters. While the US was officially supporting Iraq with arms,
technology and whatever else he needed, they were secretly supplying the
other side. Now look who they're going after, the same schmuck they made
their ally.
What's next in this litany of deceit?
Democrats have no corner on lying to the public. They learned from
excellent teachers, the Republicans.
jps
Gould 0738
Bananas wrote the following item,
knocking Democrats for saying slanderous
things that demonize the opposition.
Here's what's really rich, he doesn't recognize his own hypocrisy here!
Un-frigging-believeable
"Democrats are scum sucking a holes because they call names!" Woo hoo!
Still ROFLMAO. :-)
>[SNIP from 24 Ways that Democrats Lie]
>
>22. The best way to negate your opponent is to make people believe that he is
>
>of bad moral character, is stupid and misinformed, or has questionable
>motives.In politics, lying is legal. It's been established in court that you
>can lie about your opponent and he can't sue you for it. If you can get
>people
>to stop listening to your opponent, then it won't matter what he says. That's
>
>why statements by Democrat candidates are slanderous statements against the
>opponent. Casting aspersions on the opponent's moral character is one way to
>make people ignore the opponent. Even Al Gore slandered Bill Bradley, a
>member
>of his own party, to guarantee that nobody would listen to Bradley, securing
>him the 2000 Presidential Nomination for the Democrat Party
I guess we can only be grateful that Bananas' party always takes the high road.
Heck, if they didn't, they might have tried to taint Al Gore with Clinton's
moral problems in the last election. Good thing they are far, far above that
kind of crap. :-)
Keep it coming, Bananas. Someday you might actually post something credible,
but in the meantime the entertainment value is fantastic.
Fools Rush (Limbaugh) in.
Mark Browne
Lets discuss the issues.
Are you saying that this lie thing is the exclusive domain of Democrates? I
assume that anyone in politics lies. If you requre some proof I am sure we
can dig up a few data points.
Don't expect me to be impressed with cute snips from the "24 ways"
propaganda. If you don't have anything to add personally, then you are just
making noise. Move on to something of more substance.
Mark Browne
"Henry" <ban...@monkeys.da.ru> wrote in message
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> In article <QP9%9.3253$ga3.118...@twister1.starband.net>, "Ted Nugent"
<t...@nugent.net> wrote:
>
> >Without the Rich this country would be nothing Remember That WE Employee
> >YOU!
>
> [SNIP from the 24 Ways Democrats Lie Handbook]
>
> "Dress up like a sheep: In Little Red Riding Hood, the wolf dressed up
like
> grandma to fool Little Red..."
Gould 0738
>I invested heavily in high quality firearms and thanks to my friends
>on the left I am doing quite nicely thank-you. :^)
Careful, Bananas. With all those guns around, it gets pretty easy to shoot your
mouth off.
Gould 0738
>when the reverse order is true.
>
>
But, Bananas, If somebody on the left were to state that some people on the
right
specialize in slander, they'd have *your* post for evidence, wouldn't they?
That absolute classic that goes, "Democrats are without class and low life scum
because they use slander and insult?" :-)
>You always defend the left and ignore their trespasses but then you
>claim that you vote mostly Republican and are not a member of the
>Democratic party.
Of course I defend progressive ideals. Duh. Wonder why?
Never have claimed to vote "mostly Republican." I have said I vote for too many
Republicans to be a Democrat. No, I'm not a Democrat. But sure as heck not a
Republican. :-)
I know, it's important for some folks to fit everybody into a nice tight
category. It makes it a lot easier to ask Rush how you are supposed to think
about 'em.
jps
> >If you weren't so freakin' dense you would've realized that the offense
was
> >"all" not "liberals." Your brainpower exceeds our lowest estimates.
> >
> >jps
>
> Your ignorance is only exceeded by your ignorance...
>
> [SNIP from 24 Ways that Democrats Lie]
>
> 22. The best way to negate your opponent is to make people believe that he
is
> of bad moral character, is stupid and misinformed, or has questionable
> motives.In politics, lying is legal. It's been established in court that
you
> can lie about your opponent and he can't sue you for it. If you can get
people
> to stop listening to your opponent, then it won't matter what he says.
That's
> why statements by Democrat candidates are slanderous statements against
the
> opponent. Casting aspersions on the opponent's moral character is one way
to
> make people ignore the opponent. Even Al Gore slandered Bill Bradley, a
member
> of his own party, to guarantee that nobody would listen to Bradley,
securing
> him the 2000 Presidential Nomination for the Democrat Party
"In politics, lying is legal." Hmmm, suppose that includes both parties? I
guess Democrats and Republicans use different tactics or rules when they
lie?
Let me refer to my "liberal" party handbook to see what my next response
would be. Oh yeah, that's right, I don't have a stupid freaking handbook to
refer to because I think for myself.
You don't even bother to respond to my complaint that your argument is a
complete non-sequitur.
Keep those blinder on Henry, by Republican standards, you're doing just
fine.
jps
jps
> In article <v3pa93t...@corp.supernews.com>, "jps" <tr...@thedump.com>
wrote:
>
> >> Would it have pleased you more to have said "all of the conservatives"
are
> >> are screaming because the illegals have to go through all of that
"harsh"
> >> desert environment"?
> >
> >If you weren't so freakin' dense you would've realized that the offense
was
> >"all" not "liberals." Your brainpower exceeds our lowest estimates.
> >
> >jps
> >
>
>
> --
> "You can't argue the point so you lower yourself to slagging people
> personally.
>
> Good tactic. Is everyone who debates with you flawed? Hmmm, what does
that
> tell us Steven?" --jps
You didn't even bother to read the freakin' response before you launched
into some diatribe about a non-related subject.
I took offense to the bombastic argument that "all the liberals" are arguing
that water stations should be set up in the desert. The offense was "all."
Why don't you argue the point I made? That's where the dense comment came
from.
jps
jps
jps
"Henry" <ban...@monkeys.da.ru> wrote in message
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> In article <v3qkjo4...@corp.supernews.com>, "jps" <tr...@thedump.com>
wrote:
>
> What were you saying about being "dense"? Ted is one of your ilk.
>
> Don't feed the trolls...
jps
> In article <v3qmbio...@corp.supernews.com>, "jps" <tr...@thedump.com>
wrote:
> And never thought upon,
> The flames of love extinguished,
> And freely past and gone?
> Is thy kind heart now grown so cold
> In that loving breast of thine,
> That thou canst never once reflect
> On old-long-syne?
Did you have a snort of schnapps after church today Henry?
Center of the Spectrum
> >And you don't recognize YOUR OWN hypocrisy in never pointing out
> >when the reverse order is true.
> >
> category. It makes it a lot easier to ask Rush how you are supposed to
think
> about 'em.
>
>
Why do you always want to categorize me as a right wing fanatical, when even
my name states I am a Centrists. I like to think of myself as a Progressive
Middle of the Roader.
One other point you should realize is that even people who consider
themselves Republicans, can and do vote for independents and Democrats. I
myself voted for a Democratic Congresswoman last election. She was the best
candidate, and a moderate. Oh, and since I am correcting you for all of
your mistakes, remember that very few people who consider themselves
Republicans agree with Rush Limbaugh. The problem with both parties is that
the radical element are the vocal ones.
Now just admit you are wrong and we can get along.
Mark Browne
it's about ideas. All conservatives seem to be able to offer is to let the
rich raid the candy store. They account for less than 1 percent of the
population. You can only buy so many elections (see Florida for example). As
some point people are going to get as mad as hell, and they won't take it
any more. The Reagan/Bush legacy in a cancerous debt eating at our economy.
You whine over a few percent tax cut. Eliminate the debt and get a 30
percent cut. The mechanics of the debt are sneaky. As an engineer I am used
to performing "black box" studies. Lets look at the effect of the debt.
Thirty percent of my income goes to federal taxes. Thirty percent of that
goes to debt service. The net effect is that about 10% of my income goes
from my paycheck right into some bankers pocket. As I said, the foxes are
guarding the hen-house. The democrats are struggling to get the message out,
but they are starting to figure it out. It is my fervent hope that the Dems
get a bad choice on the ticket so we get the full effect of the conservative
program while the responsible party is still around. This will be the
necessary pavlovian paring to doom the conservative agenda for the next
generation.
Laugh while you can.
Mark Browne
<snip>
> Your party is finished. Who is going to be your Phoenix rising from the
> ashes? Lieberman, Bore, Billary, Kerry or ??? ROFLMAO!
<snip>
Mark Browne
Don White
Well I want a raise ASAP!
Ted Nugent <t...@nugent.net> wrote in message
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Don White
I thought Ted Nugent and the French guy started it.
Henry <ban...@monkeys.da.ru> wrote in message news:b1jkn6>
> See what you started (current thread) Don?
>
> LOL
>
> ;^)
Don White
One in England, yours in Ma, I think one in the Carolinas.
We like to think we're the biggest and best.
Eisboch <r_er...@bellsouthnot.net> wrote in message news:g39%9.6179> Ahhh..
Ted Nugent
cool people sorry I dragged them in it, I really didn't mean the post to be
political.news:FKj%9.1274$hA.1...@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
Don White
Don't resist...go quietly.
If you could control yourself, he might let you do it.
Henry <ban...@monkeys.da.ru> wrote in message >
> I have to get back to work tomorrow so I will be as you
> say "locked up without internet privileges" for awhile.
>
> Be safe... (and everybody reading this too!)
>
> Give Harry Krause a peck on the cheek for me.
>
> :^P
>
> Cheers!
> Henry
Don White
I take very little I read here to heart. Most times it's just someone
trying to irritate you for sport.
Thought I read that the 'real' Ted was a sailor.
If the 'real' Ted wanted a good motorboat I'd give him some links where he
could have one custom built in Nova Scotia probably a lot cheaper than
stateside..
Ted Nugent <T...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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SaladinoJA
>From: "Don White" wh...@nsknospm.sympatico.ca
>Date: 2/3/2003 9:26 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <oxF%9.549$o61....@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>
>If the 'real' Ted wanted a good motorboat I'd give him some links where he
>could have one custom built in Nova Scotia probably a lot cheaper than
>stateside..
I have a friend who bought a Donelle, I cannot believe the amount of boat he
got for the price he paid. I went to a trade show (Fish Expo) and couldn't
understand why the Maine builders were openly hostle to the Canadians, until I
saw the quality of this boat, and he told me the price he paid. (Please, no
union or geo-political quips).
John
Mick Teahan
"SaladinoJA" <salad...@aol.com> wrote in message
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SaladinoJA
>From: "Mick Teahan" mi...@maryimmaculate.net
>Date: 2/4/2003 11:38 AM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <c0S%9.6925$6P2.7...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>
>You cannot possibly be serious.
About what? Donelle, quality, price, Maine builders, Canada...what is it, that
you think I'm joking about?
Don White
Boat Show. They seemed to be well received.
Not sure about the 2002 show.
Harry Krause <harry...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I've seen a couple of the Canadian commercial boats dressed up for
> sportfishermen. Donelle makes a nice hull. But the final quality really
> depends on who does the finishing work.
>
Don White
Harry Krause <harry...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> SaladinoJA wrote:
Mick Teahan
Donelle quality
Habbi
formation as well.
http://www.huttboat.ca/
http://www.provincialboat.com/
http://www.peiboats.com/
A lot of these are being shipped to the US.
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SaladinoJA
>Message-id: <6D80a.760$1q2....@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>
times a week, and find the opposite of your opinion to be true. Can you give me
some examples?
John