Well, well, Zimmerman defenders.....

iBoaterer

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Mar 28, 2012, 2:50:15 PM3/28/12

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http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/article1222259.ece

Happy John

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Mar 28, 2012, 4:11:10 PM3/28/12

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On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:50:15 -0400, iBoaterer <bl...@dah.net> wrote:

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>http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/article1222259.ece

It's nice to see that an investigation is being conducted. Maybe the investigation will show enough
evidence to press charges. Then maybe there will be an arrest and trial. Then Zimmerman will either
be convicted and punished or found not guilty.

Then all you amateur sleuths can argue about how biased the judge, jury, prosecutor, defender, and
etc. were.

That's what Kevin would have done were he still around. Oh, and Harry too.

JustWait

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Mar 28, 2012, 4:13:24 PM3/28/12

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Well, Harry is a liar, Plum plays the Red Herring game... subtle
difference, both are just as dishonest as each other..

X ` Man

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Mar 28, 2012, 4:25:13 PM3/28/12

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Wow...it's the rec.boats version of The Lost Boys...Herring the Racist
and Shit for Brains Snotty.

JustWait

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Mar 28, 2012, 4:32:14 PM3/28/12

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You and Plum should be happy. As hard as the rest tried, you two got it
right back to politics all the time, just the way you want it. Have fun
with that...

X ` Man

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Mar 28, 2012, 4:36:02 PM3/28/12

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What would you have us discuss? Kiddie motorbike racing?

JustWait

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Mar 28, 2012, 4:40:29 PM3/28/12

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I don't know. I am not the one starting the political threads. That's
you and Plum...

threep...@live.com

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Mar 28, 2012, 4:41:10 PM3/28/12

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Interesting thing is that all the stirring, howling and marching by the media, sharpton, etc., has actually slowed down the justice process. If the police and presecutors had been allowed to do their jobs without the storm stirred up by them, the Govenor wouldn't have stepped in, and Zimmerman would probably already be arrested.

X ` Man

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Mar 28, 2012, 4:47:26 PM3/28/12

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You're not equipped to discuss much...why do you even read political
threads?

Oscar

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Mar 28, 2012, 5:45:32 PM3/28/12

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Scotty seems to do well enough to be your favorite sparring partner.
Kudos to Scotty for holding his own against such a formidable opponent
as yourself.

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JustWait

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Mar 28, 2012, 5:55:33 PM3/28/12

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Well, we did all right for a few weeks until harry and plum had to do
the politics... I suppose we could still talk boats but you know the two
of them will not leave it alone. Look at the last bunch of new threads,
each and every one, whining and crying politics from the racist left...

iBoaterer

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Mar 29, 2012, 8:28:12 AM3/29/12

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In article <csr6n75svngsnrgha...@4ax.com>,
salmo...@gmail.com says...

Asshole, then you and the other amateur defenders of Zimmerman will be
put in place. That's what John Herring would do.

iBoaterer

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Mar 29, 2012, 8:28:33 AM3/29/12

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In article <jkvrdc$8r2$1...@dont-email.me>, motod...@gmail.com says...

Gee, not much to say about the link I posted, eh?

iBoaterer

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Mar 29, 2012, 8:28:53 AM3/29/12

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In article <jkvrdc$8r2$1...@dont-email.me>, motod...@gmail.com says...
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And what was I "dishonest" about?

iBoaterer

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Mar 29, 2012, 8:29:24 AM3/29/12

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In article <jkvsgl$f0o$1...@dont-email.me>, motod...@gmail.com says...

And you were the first to interject racism into a thread.

iBoaterer

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Mar 29, 2012, 8:30:05 AM3/29/12

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In article <jkvt03$hsk$2...@dont-email.me>, motod...@gmail.com says...

What political threads did I start, liar?

iBoaterer

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Mar 29, 2012, 8:30:45 AM3/29/12

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In article <jl01cr$ca6$1...@dont-email.me>, motod...@gmail.com says...

If you are referring to me, you are a liar. I haven't started a
political thread.

JustWait

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Mar 29, 2012, 8:58:08 AM3/29/12

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you started a fight thread...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.boats/browse_thread/thread/e5a407f36006c7a1#
same difference....

JustWait

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Mar 29, 2012, 8:59:07 AM3/29/12

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The whole event is about racism. Jackson, Enfume, Sharpton, you and
Harry are only interested because of the racist overtones...

JustWait

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Mar 29, 2012, 8:59:56 AM3/29/12

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What can I say. It's more evidence but we don't have a timeline for it,
we don't have all the evidence... You are making it what you want it to
be, you are a racist...

X ` Man

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Mar 29, 2012, 9:10:58 AM3/29/12

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Wrong, shit-for-brains. My interest in the case in based upon Florida's
nutcase "stand your ground" law. It's an ugly law that leads to over the
top violence.

iBoaterer

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Mar 29, 2012, 9:12:33 AM3/29/12

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In article <jl1mcj$2j2$3...@dont-email.me>, motod...@gmail.com says...

YOU are the one who interjected racism into the topic. You are also a
liar, show me where I said ONE THING racist.

JustWait

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Mar 29, 2012, 9:13:21 AM3/29/12

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Everybody here knows your interests Harry... <snerk>

iBoaterer

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Mar 29, 2012, 9:13:53 AM3/29/12

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In article <jl1mb2$2j2$2...@dont-email.me>, motod...@gmail.com says...

You are a liar. Show me ONE THING I said about race. Then show me ONE
THING Harry said about race. Two lies in one sentence from you. Now what
I can do is show you where YOU interjected racism into the discussion.

iBoaterer

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Mar 29, 2012, 9:15:44 AM3/29/12

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In article <jl1m97$2j2$1...@dont-email.me>, motod...@gmail.com says...

No, it's not the "same difference". You lied. And why is it a "fight
thread"? I simply wanted you Zimmerman defenders to have the
information. So, keep on lying.

X ` Man

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Mar 29, 2012, 9:17:49 AM3/29/12

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You're not smart enough to know anything, little toady.

JustWait

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Mar 29, 2012, 9:18:00 AM3/29/12

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On 3/29/2012 9:13 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
> In article<jl1mb2$2j2$2...@dont-email.me>, motod...@gmail.com says...

Listen Plum, I am not interested in playing on your web... You are a
dishonest person, not worth bothering with.

Oscar

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Mar 29, 2012, 9:28:47 AM3/29/12

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On 3/29/2012 8:28 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

I don't think anyone opens your links.

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JustWait

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Mar 29, 2012, 9:34:22 AM3/29/12

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John's link? I have opened his musical links before and I just don't
share his taste in music at all, ever, not one bit so I didn't bother...

Oscar

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Mar 29, 2012, 9:41:11 AM3/29/12

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I was referring to Plume's links.

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JustWait

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Mar 29, 2012, 10:04:20 AM3/29/12

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Well, Plum's links are irrelevant, even he doesn't know what they mean...

iBoaterer

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Mar 29, 2012, 10:21:49 AM3/29/12

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In article <jl1nef$a02$1...@dont-email.me>, motod...@gmail.com says...

What was *I* dishonest about? Come on, you called me a racist, so show
me one thing I said that was racist...... Now YOU on the other hand are,
you were the one who interjected race into the conversation.

iBoaterer

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Mar 29, 2012, 10:24:40 AM3/29/12

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In article <jl1q5c$pfd$1...@dont-email.me>, motod...@gmail.com says...

Irrelevant???? The Special Prosecutor commenting on the lack of
professionalism and investigation of the very case we are discussing is
"irrelevant" in your eyes? What then would be relevant in the case?

Happy John

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Mar 29, 2012, 2:02:33 PM3/29/12

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Can you show me where I've 'defended' anyone?

Another lie, Harry?

iBoaterer

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Mar 29, 2012, 2:11:06 PM3/29/12

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In article <vs89n7pr68ma37ap0...@4ax.com>,
salmo...@gmail.com says...

ESAD, Asshole.

Oscar

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Mar 29, 2012, 2:22:37 PM3/29/12

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That's exactly what Harry says when he's backed into a corner.
I'll tell ya. You have so many quirky traits that either Harry or Plume
exhibit. I can't figger out which one of them you are.

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Earl

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Mar 29, 2012, 8:02:48 PM3/29/12

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Can you give an example? I can:

Some are calling a former U.S. Marine a hero for shooting two men —
killing one — during the botched robbery of a sandwich shop in
Plantation. But the men's friends and family want to know how he could
gun them down and not be charged.

John Lovell had just finished dinner at about 11:15 p.m. Wednesday when,
Plantation police say, two men armed with guns rushed inside a Subway
shop and demanded cash. After robbing the store, the men turned to
Lovell. They wanted his money, police said.

But like his attackers, Lovell was armed.

The retired military man opened fire, shooting dead Donicio Arrindell,
22, of North Lauderdale, and critically injuring Fredrick Gadson, 21, of
Fort Lauderdale.

Lovell, 71, of Plantation, has a valid concealed weapons permit and is
not expected to be charged in the shooting, said police spokesman
Detective Robert Rettig. Gadson, however, faces multiple felony charges
that could include murder, he said. Under Florida law, anyone who
commits a felony such as armed robbery resulting in a death can be held
accountable for the capital offense.

"He feared for his life," Rettig said of Lovell. "And if he's in fear
for his life, then he has a right to defend himself, even if it means
severe bodily injury or death."

Florida law gives people the right of "self-defense without the duty to
retreat." That means individuals can use deadly force virtually anywhere
to prevent death or serious injury.

Lovell could not be reached for comment despite calls and visits to his
home.

JustWait

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Mar 29, 2012, 8:08:46 PM3/29/12

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Yeah, good job, hat's off to mr. Lovell. Probably changed the whole
attitude of crims in Lauderdale. I bet it's a while before a couple
armed punks rush some guy at a sandwich shop. Bet gun crime goes down a
bunch there in the future.

X ` Man

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Mar 30, 2012, 6:17:08 AM3/30/12

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On 3/29/12 8:02 PM, Earl wrote:
> X ` Man wrote:

>> Wrong, shit-for-brains. My interest in the case in based upon
>> Florida's nutcase "stand your ground" law. It's an ugly law that leads
>> to over the top violence.

> Can you give an example? I can:
>
> Some are calling a former U.S. Marine a hero for shooting two men —
> killing one — during the botched robbery of a sandwich shop in
> Plantation. But the men's friends and family want to know how he could
> gun them down and not be charged.
>
> John Lovell had just finished dinner at about 11:15 p.m. Wednesday when,
> Plantation police say, two men armed with guns rushed inside a Subway
> shop and demanded cash. After robbing the store, the men turned to
> Lovell. They wanted his money, police said.
>
> But like his attackers, Lovell was armed.
>
> The retired military man opened fire, shooting dead Donicio Arrindell,
> 22, of North Lauderdale, and critically injuring Fredrick Gadson, 21, of
> Fort Lauderdale.

The case you cited has very little to do with the typical "stand your
ground" cases. The shooter acted in the midst of a violent felony being
committed and about to be committed on him. He didn't shoot the robbers
because he "thought" they presented a threat to him. The robbers were
armed, and their firearms were visible. It was justified self-defense.

X ` Man

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Mar 30, 2012, 6:24:58 AM3/30/12

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On 3/29/12 8:08 PM, JustWait wrote:

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> Yeah, good job, hat's off to mr. Lovell. Probably changed the whole
> attitude of crims in Lauderdale. I bet it's a while before a couple
> armed punks rush some guy at a sandwich shop. Bet gun crime goes down a
> bunch there in the future.

You're an uninformed, uneducated, ignorant little toad, and you really
shouldn't comment on "the news of the day," since you don't have the
competence to do so.

You should stick to what you know: imagining yourself as victimized by
minorities, demonstrating how far you've been mislead by Fox News, and
being a foil for the moronic "trickle down" economics of the GOP. What
you feel tricking down on you is their piss.

BAR

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Mar 30, 2012, 7:42:05 AM3/30/12

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In article <9tlfvr...@mid.individual.net>, ev...@conservatrash.com
says...

Has crime gone down in Florida since concealed carry has been permitted?

X ` Man

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Mar 30, 2012, 8:00:31 AM3/30/12

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Concealed carry has been allowed in Florida a long, long time.

iBoaterer

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Mar 30, 2012, 8:33:26 AM3/30/12

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In article <jl2tin$f65$1...@dont-email.me>, motod...@gmail.com says...

> > Some are calling a former U.S. Marine a hero for shooting two men ?
> > killing one ? during the botched robbery of a sandwich shop in

Yep, regressives want us back to the wild west days. Somebody says
something wrong to you, shoot him. Someone spits on the sidewalk, shoot
him. And gun crime is rampant and will remain so because most gun crimes
are committed with either a gun stolen from the legal owner or
"borrowed" from the legal owner.

iBoaterer

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Mar 30, 2012, 8:37:57 AM3/30/12

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In article <MPG.29df661...@news.giganews.com>, sc...@you.com
says...

No.

threep...@live.com

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Mar 30, 2012, 8:44:07 AM3/30/12

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On Friday, March 30, 2012 8:33:26 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
>
> Yep, regressives want us back to the wild west days. Somebody says
> something wrong to you, shoot him. Someone spits on the sidewalk, shoot
> him.

Histrionics from the hysterical left.

Actually, most people favor retaining the right to protect one's self with a legally owned firearm. Most on the left favor taking that right away.

> And gun crime is rampant and will remain so because most gun crimes
> are committed with either a gun stolen from the legal owner or
> "borrowed" from the legal owner.

So we are in agreement... the gun crime problem is not with legal gun owners, but criminals. Good. Let's go after them, not legal gun owners.

Oscar

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Mar 30, 2012, 9:41:31 AM3/30/12

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On 3/30/2012 8:33 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
> In article<jl2tin$f65$1...@dont-email.me>, motod...@gmail.com says...

Get a handle on the drug problem manifested by our friends south of the
border and off shore. You will see crime go way down.

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BAR

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Mar 31, 2012, 9:31:48 AM3/31/12

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In article <4KednSHstq3CPejS...@earthlink.com>, dump-on-
conser...@anywhere-you-can.com says...

iBoaterer

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Mar 31, 2012, 9:49:31 AM3/31/12

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In article <MPG.29e0d15...@news.giganews.com>, sc...@you.com
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No.

Oscar

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Mar 31, 2012, 11:02:36 AM3/31/12

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Cite please. Pretty please.

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