OT: Did Ceasar Forsee BushCo?
atl_...@yahoo.com
citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a
double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the
mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the
blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no
need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry,
infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their
rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I
have done. And I am Caesar."
NOYB
<atl_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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They had no airplanes nor skyscrapers when Caesar ruled. If any drums of
war started banging, they started banging on 9/11.
NOYB
12 months of the war. But after that, I promise nothing. I also know that
you think America is soft, and will not fight a sustained and costly war
anymore. Nothing could be further from the truth. If we start this war, we
cannot stop at Hawaii or even California.we will have to march on until we
are at the steps of the White House. We must follow the Geneva convention in
this attack. If we deal with America dishonorably by not first signaling our
intentions to them in cutting off negotiations, they will be unmerciful with
us, and we will lose."
" I can think of nothing that would enrage the American people more than an
unprovoked attack. I fear all that we have accomplished is to awaken a
sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."
atl_...@yahoo.com
Where IS binLaden?
NOYB
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I still think that he's dead.
Have you seen any video of him lately?
NOYB
"Shortwave Sportfishing" <onetw...@four.com> wrote in message
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Who?
atl_...@yahoo.com
BWAAAHAAA!!!!!! Spin, spin, spin. I haven't seen any video of Rummy
lately, either, does that mean he's dead?
jps
no...@noyb.com says...
Please repeat after me -- Iraq had nothing to do with bin Laden or the
attack on the world trade center.
The drums of war were indeed beaten by George Bush and his cadre of
neocons leading up to our invasion of Iraq.
History repeated itself just as Caesar outlined and, at every point
where the drums were beaten, you could use feeble excuses such as yours
to cast the world as a vastly different place in need of extraordinary
measures.
You expose yourself as short-sighted and lacking the wisdom of years, or
just a decent education.
jps
NOYB
<atl_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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No. It means that you don't watch the news.
NOYB
"jps" <tr...@thedump.com> wrote in message
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> In article <ZTb_e.4532$vw6....@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
> no...@noyb.com says...
>>
>> <atl_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1127827504....@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>> > "Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the
>> > citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a
>> > double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the
>> > mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the
>> > blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no
>> > need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry,
>> > infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their
>> > rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I
>> > have done. And I am Caesar."
>>
>> They had no airplanes nor skyscrapers when Caesar ruled. If any drums of
>> war started banging, they started banging on 9/11.
>
>
> Please repeat after me -- Iraq had nothing to do with bin Laden or the
> attack on the world trade center.
Iraq had everything to do with the attack on the WTC...both in '93 and in
'01.
>
> The drums of war were indeed beaten by George Bush and his cadre of
> neocons leading up to our invasion of Iraq.
Correct. Right after 9/11.
atl_...@yahoo.com
Hmm, so, let's recap. In YOUR eyes, if you haven't seen a picture of
something in awhile, it automatically means that it doesn't exist???
Exactly how long of a period is it? If I haven't seen a picture of
someone, or something in, say, a week? A month? Just when does this
something or someone evaporate? What a silly argument you're presenting
here!
atl_...@yahoo.com
Then, if what you say is true, and given that you think binLaden is
dead, we should bring the troops home...today. What to hell are they
doing over there?
John Gaquin
> attack on the world trade center.
Oh God, here goes that boring song again. The So. Pacific islands and India
had nothing to do with Japan. North Africa, Crete, Greece, and Norway had
nothing to do with Germany. Can you spell s-t-r-a-t-e-g-i-c?
John Gaquin
<atl_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> ......I haven't seen any video of Rummy
> lately, either, does that mean he's dead?
What happened? Did they cut off the pirated cable to your trailer park?
jps
no...@noyb.com says...
>
> "jps" <tr...@thedump.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1da304cf6...@news.seanet.com...
> > In article <ZTb_e.4532$vw6....@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
> > no...@noyb.com says...
> >>
> >> <atl_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1127827504....@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> >> > "Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the
> >> > citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a
> >> > double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the
> >> > mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the
> >> > blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no
> >> > need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry,
> >> > infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their
> >> > rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I
> >> > have done. And I am Caesar."
> >>
> >> They had no airplanes nor skyscrapers when Caesar ruled. If any drums of
> >> war started banging, they started banging on 9/11.
> >
> >
> > Please repeat after me -- Iraq had nothing to do with bin Laden or the
> > attack on the world trade center.
>
> Iraq had everything to do with the attack on the WTC...both in '93 and in
> '01.
You've got your head in a really dark place
1. in mud
2. in sand
3. shove past your anal sphincter
Can you send some self portraits and some proof of Iraq's involvement in
9/11?
Do you think they had a bigger hand in it than the Saudis?
I think you'll need to tighten the blinders a bit before answering,
otherwise your head might explode.
jps
jps
says...
You cocksuckers were all "make it glass" and "we'll be liberators from
evil" then all sucky humanitarian bullshiters when I was, ALL ALONG,
saying this strategy had existed since Nixon was in office.
It's about the OIL, plain and simple.
Not bin Laden, not Saddam, not the Saudis.
It's about OIL.
NYOB's vapid argument that Caesar's analysis doesn't apply is complete
bullshit. Blame was transferred by Bush and his cronies from Saudi
Arabia and Afghanistan to Iraq so they could take over Saddam's big,
underutilized pool of oil.
They beat the drums, we gave up our rights. The democrats folded like a
house of cards.
We don't stand for anything anymore, other than big business.
jps
atl_...@yahoo.com
Let's just prove how much of a true dumb fuck you really are, John.
Tell the group the following:
What evidence do you have that I live in a trailer park?
What evidence do you have that I have pirated cable?
what evidence do you have that I have cable?
To show what a complete idiot you are:
I live in a nice house. Nice pool, two nice decks, acre of land.
I have Dish Network, with the sports package.
Now, I wonder if you even have enough brain power to feel foolish.
Starbuck
Can you prove you do not have pirated cable to your trailer?
If you can't you are just making unfounded allegations.
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NOYB
<atl_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Hey, you're the one who thinks that you can prove a negative.
Or do you now support Cheney's idea that absence of evidence is not evidence
of absence.
NOYB
<atl_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Then, if what you say is true, and given that you think binLaden is
> dead, we should bring the troops home...today.
????
NOYB
We? Is that you and the other "cocksuckers"?
NOYB
<atl_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> John Gaquin wrote:
>> <atl_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >
>> > ......I haven't seen any video of Rummy
>> > lately, either, does that mean he's dead?
>>
>> What happened? Did they cut off the pirated cable to your trailer park?
>
> Let's just prove how much of a true dumb fuck you really are, John.
> Tell the group the following:
>
> What evidence do you have that I live in a trailer park?
Prove that you don't.
>
> What evidence do you have that I have pirated cable?
Prove that you don't.
>
> what evidence do you have that I have cable?
Prove that you don't.
>
> To show what a complete idiot you are:
>
> I live in a nice house. Nice pool, two nice decks, acre of land.
>
> I have Dish Network, with the sports package.
>
Got proof?
NOYB
Yes.
>
> I think you'll need to tighten the blinders a bit before answering,
> otherwise your head might explode.
Nope. My head is still intact.
P Fritz
"NOYB" <no...@noyb.com> wrote in message
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Kevin just keeps proving why he is the "King of the NG idiots"
>
>
>
>
John Gaquin
<atl_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> Let's just prove how much of a true dumb fuck you really are, John.
> Tell the group the following:
>
> What evidence do you have that I live in a trailer park?
>
> What evidence do you have that I have pirated cable?
>
> what evidence do you have that I have cable?
None at all, other than the possibilities and probabilities occasioned by
your words and apparent demeanor. Based solely on those, howver, I suspect
a fairly large segment of the NG folk my well agree with the likelihood of
my posit.
>
> To show what a complete idiot you are:
>
> I live in a nice house. Nice pool, two nice decks, acre of land.
This, if true, signifies nothing other than rampant conventionality.
>
> I have Dish Network, with the sports package.
And I suppose I am to interpret this as a sign of success and *higher*
intelligence? :-)
>
> Now, I wonder if you even have enough brain power to feel foolish.
It requires no brain power to feel foolish; merely insecurity and timidity.
Low inventory on both counts.
P Fritz
That boy is dumber than a tree stump.
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John Gaquin
"jps" <tr...@thedump.com> wrote in message
>
> You cocksuckers were all "make it glass" >
> It's about the OIL, plain and simple.
>
> Not bin Laden, not Saddam, not the Saudis.
>
> It's about OIL.
>
> Blame was transferred by Bush ...so they could take over Saddam's big,
> underutilized pool of oil.
Aaarrrrggghhhhhh!!!! Ye be off the charts now, matey! Run a tight ship
and keep a sharp eye; here there be monsters!
atl_...@yahoo.com
John Gaquin wrote:
> <atl_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> > Let's just prove how much of a true dumb fuck you really are, John.
> > Tell the group the following:
> >
> > What evidence do you have that I live in a trailer park?
> >
> > What evidence do you have that I have pirated cable?
> >
> > what evidence do you have that I have cable?
>
> None at all, other than the possibilities and probabilities occasioned by
> your words and apparent demeanor. Based solely on those, howver, I suspect
> a fairly large segment of the NG folk my well agree with the likelihood of
> my posit.
What words of mine would leave you to believe that I live in a mobile
home and have pirated cable? Be specific. I'd really like to know how
you've come to those conclusions.
>
> >
> > To show what a complete idiot you are:
> >
> > I live in a nice house. Nice pool, two nice decks, acre of land.
>
> This, if true, signifies nothing other than rampant conventionality.
It is exactly as I choose it to be.
>
> >
> > I have Dish Network, with the sports package.
>
> And I suppose I am to interpret this as a sign of success and *higher*
> intelligence? :-)
You are supposed to have enough brains to figure out you were, as
usual, dead wrong about me.
>
>
> >
> > Now, I wonder if you even have enough brain power to feel foolish.
>
> It requires no brain power to feel foolish; merely insecurity and timidity.
> Low inventory on both counts.
I've proven you to be posting in pure ignorance, knowing nothing about
me, but somehow thinking you do. You ARE a fool.
atl_...@yahoo.com
NOYB wrote:
> <atl_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1127842593....@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > John Gaquin wrote:
> >> <atl_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >
> >> > ......I haven't seen any video of Rummy
> >> > lately, either, does that mean he's dead?
> >>
> >> What happened? Did they cut off the pirated cable to your trailer park?
> >
> > Let's just prove how much of a true dumb fuck you really are, John.
> > Tell the group the following:
> >
> > What evidence do you have that I live in a trailer park?
>
> Prove that you don't.
>
> >
> > What evidence do you have that I have pirated cable?
>
> Prove that you don't.
Can't prove a negative, remember?
>
>
> >
> > what evidence do you have that I have cable?
>
> Prove that you don't.
Can't prove a negative, remember?
>
> >
> > To show what a complete idiot you are:
> >
> > I live in a nice house. Nice pool, two nice decks, acre of land.
> >
> > I have Dish Network, with the sports package.
> >
>
> Got proof?
Yes.
jps
paulfritzN...@voyager.net says...
As opposed to you, who proves nothing?
Starbuck
>>
>> Kevin just keeps proving why he is the "King of the NG idiots"
>
> As opposed to you, who proves nothing?
jps,
I have to agree with you on this one, Kevin does a much better job of
providing his proof.
P Fritz
NOYB
<atl_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> NOYB wrote:
>> <atl_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1127842593....@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > John Gaquin wrote:
>> >> <atl_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> >
>> >> > ......I haven't seen any video of Rummy
>> >> > lately, either, does that mean he's dead?
>> >>
>> >> What happened? Did they cut off the pirated cable to your trailer
>> >> park?
>> >
>> > Let's just prove how much of a true dumb fuck you really are, John.
>> > Tell the group the following:
>> >
>> > What evidence do you have that I live in a trailer park?
>>
>> Prove that you don't.
>>
>> >
>> > What evidence do you have that I have pirated cable?
>>
>> Prove that you don't.
>
> Can't prove a negative, remember?
>>
>>
>> >
>> > what evidence do you have that I have cable?
>>
>> Prove that you don't.
>
> Can't prove a negative, remember?
Glad to see you finally learned something.
John Gaquin
<atl_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> What words of mine would leave you to believe that I live in a mobile
> home and have pirated cable? Be specific. I'd really like to know how
> you've come to those conclusions.
"...the possibilities and probabilities occasioned by your words and
apparent demeanor..." Do learn to read in a more subtle vein.
>> This, if true, signifies nothing other than rampant conventionality.
>
> It is exactly as I choose it to be.
QED
>
> You are supposed to have enough brains to figure out you were, as
> usual, dead wrong about me.
> I've proven you to be posting in pure ignorance, knowing nothing about
> me, but somehow thinking you do. >
Au contraire, mon ami...... quite the antithesis. :-)
P Fritz
"John Gaquin" <john....@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Kevin is just projecting again.
>
>
P Fritz
I doubt it...........................
considering the number of times he's been bitch slapped here. ;-)
>
>
tsch...@gmail.com
> have done. And I am Caesar."
Which Ceasar?
Tim
atl_...@yahoo.com wrote:
> "Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the
> citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a
> double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the
> mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the
> blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no
> need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry,
> infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their
> have done. And I am Caesar."
check it out before posting it Guzzi-guy
http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/dubiousquotes/a/caesar_quote.htm
Bert Robbins
"Shortwave Sportfishing" <onetw...@four.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 13:56:26 GMT, "NOYB" <no...@noyb.com> wrote:
>
>>
>><atl_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> > "Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the
>>>> > citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a
>>>> > double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows
>>>> > the
>>>> > mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the
>>>> > blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have
>>>> > no
>>>> > need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry,
>>>> > infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of
>>>> > their
>>>> > rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what
>>>> > I
>>>> > have done. And I am Caesar."
>>>>
>>>> of
>>>> war started banging, they started banging on 9/11.
>>>
>>> Where IS binLaden?
>>
>>I still think that he's dead.
>>
>>Have you seen any video of him lately?
>
This is the best outcome for bin Laden.
If the US killed him then he would become a martyr.
If the US captured him and held him he would more trouble than he is worth.
Hijackings to free him and such.
If he dies hiding in a hole from kidney failure or some other affliction he
will mostly be forgotten by history. This is the desired end for bin Laden.
Tim
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> NOYB wrote:
>> <atl_m...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1127842593....@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> > John Gaquin wrote:
>> >> <atl_m...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> > ......I haven't seen any video of Rummy
>> >> > lately, either, does that mean he's dead?
>> >> What happened? Did they cut off the pirated cable to your trailer
>> >> park?
>> > Let's just prove how much of a true dumb fuck you really are, John.
>> > Tell the group the following:
>> > What evidence do you have that I live in a trailer park?
>> Prove that you don't.
>> > What evidence do you have that I have pirated cable?
>> Prove that you don't.
> Can't prove a negative, remember?
>> > what evidence do you have that I have cable?
>> Prove that you don't.
> Can't prove a negative, remember?
Can't prove your fake Ceasar quote bullshit . Kevin???
PocoLoco
Nice mouth, Kevin!
--
John H
"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."
Bert Robbins
> In article <xO2dnXLFgOg...@comcast.com>, john....@comcast.net
> says...
>>
>> "jps" <tr...@thedump.com> wrote in message
>> >
>> >
>> > Please repeat after me -- Iraq had nothing to do with bin Laden or the
>> > attack on the world trade center.
>>
>> Oh God, here goes that boring song again. The So. Pacific islands and
>> India
>> had nothing to do with Japan. North Africa, Crete, Greece, and Norway
>> had
>> nothing to do with Germany. Can you spell s-t-r-a-t-e-g-i-c?
>
> You cocksuckers were all "make it glass" and "we'll be liberators from
> evil" then all sucky humanitarian bullshiters when I was, ALL ALONG,
> saying this strategy had existed since Nixon was in office.
That was your buddy Harry.
> It's about the OIL, plain and simple.
True!
> Not bin Laden, not Saddam, not the Saudis.
True!
> It's about OIL.
True. Have you ever thought about how important OIL is in your life?
Everything you find at your grocery store got there using OIL. Most
everything in the store is packaged with material that is made from OIL. The
supplies at your doctor's office and your hospital got there by being
transported by an OIL.
> NYOB's vapid argument that Caesar's analysis doesn't apply is complete
> bullshit. Blame was transferred by Bush and his cronies from Saudi
> Arabia and Afghanistan to Iraq so they could take over Saddam's big,
> underutilized pool of oil.
da Vinci was the guy that really saw into the futue. Caesar and Nostradamus
never predicted a thing.
> They beat the drums, we gave up our rights. The democrats folded like a
> house of cards.
But, the Democrats are more instrested in turing the military into a quick
reaction force for "emergencies" within the US. Much easier to declare an
emergency than to pass legislation.
> We don't stand for anything anymore, other than big business.
Everyone feeds at the corporate trough because it is the engine of money in
the world.
Starbuck
"Tim" <bsch...@aol.com> wrote in message >
> check it out before posting it Guzzi-guy
Ouch .... Guzzi-Guy that must have hurt Kevin to the quick
Harry.Krause
Why are you ashamed of your name, Kevin?
>
In article <1127828952.2...@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
atl_...@yahoo.com says...
jps
>
> "jps" <tr...@thedump.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1da3219f8...@news.seanet.com...
> > In article <xO2dnXLFgOg...@comcast.com>, john....@comcast.net
> > says...
> >>
> >> "jps" <tr...@thedump.com> wrote in message
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Please repeat after me -- Iraq had nothing to do with bin Laden or the
> >> > attack on the world trade center.
> >>
> >> Oh God, here goes that boring song again. The So. Pacific islands and
> >> India
> >> had nothing to do with Japan. North Africa, Crete, Greece, and Norway
> >> had
> >> nothing to do with Germany. Can you spell s-t-r-a-t-e-g-i-c?
> >
> > You cocksuckers were all "make it glass" and "we'll be liberators from
> > evil" then all sucky humanitarian bullshiters when I was, ALL ALONG,
> > saying this strategy had existed since Nixon was in office.
>
> That was your buddy Harry.
I don't remember that. I remember a lot of you righties backing up any
excuse that Bush gave, depending on which month we were into the war.
That friggin' asshole works for us, not the other way around. I want to
know the truth about how we're investing our tax dollars and why. To
spend hundreds of billions of dollars to control a pool of oil may be
considered by many Americans to be folly.
I'd rather invest that money in incentives for forwarding alternatives
to fossil fuel. But that wouldn't do much good for Bush's buddies.
Large public works projects, bullets and ammo, oil are all good business
for the Bush/Cheney ticket.
They're a bunch a gangsters as far as I'm concerned. Get in office to
turn the world in the direction that'd best serve your relations.
It's a disgusting turn of events for our country.
> > It's about the OIL, plain and simple.
>
> True!
>
> > Not bin Laden, not Saddam, not the Saudis.
>
> True!
>
> > It's about OIL.
>
> True. Have you ever thought about how important OIL is in your life?
It's plenty important but it's more important to know that my tax
dollars are being spend on positive influences.
> Everything you find at your grocery store got there using OIL. Most
> everything in the store is packaged with material that is made from OIL. The
> supplies at your doctor's office and your hospital got there by being
> transported by an OIL.
>
> > NYOB's vapid argument that Caesar's analysis doesn't apply is complete
> > bullshit. Blame was transferred by Bush and his cronies from Saudi
> > Arabia and Afghanistan to Iraq so they could take over Saddam's big,
> > underutilized pool of oil.
>
> da Vinci was the guy that really saw into the futue. Caesar and Nostradamus
> never predicted a thing.
It wasn't my contention that Caesar saw the future, that was Atlanta
Man. I say that we folded as a nation just as he said was possible.
> > They beat the drums, we gave up our rights. The democrats folded like a
> > house of cards.
>
> But, the Democrats are more instrested in turing the military into a quick
> reaction force for "emergencies" within the US. Much easier to declare an
> emergency than to pass legislation.
The democrats are a ship adrift. They lost their moorings when the
Republicans stole their message.
> > We don't stand for anything anymore, other than big business.
>
> Everyone feeds at the corporate trough because it is the engine of money in
> the world.
A cooperative partnership between gov't and corporations.
It's called Fascism.
jps
jps
tsch...@gmail.com says...
> How do I know? For this is what I
> > have done. And I am Caesar."
>
>
> Which Ceasar?
Caesar the Great.
Bert Robbins
They all thought they were great!
Which Ceaser?
Bert Robbins
> In article <Er-dncfnYZK...@comcast.com>, sc...@you.com says...
>>
>> "jps" <tr...@thedump.com> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.1da3219f8...@news.seanet.com...
>> > In article <xO2dnXLFgOg...@comcast.com>,
>> > john....@comcast.net
>> > says...
>> >>
>> >> "jps" <tr...@thedump.com> wrote in message
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Please repeat after me -- Iraq had nothing to do with bin Laden or
>> >> > the
>> >> > attack on the world trade center.
>> >>
>> >> Oh God, here goes that boring song again. The So. Pacific islands and
>> >> India
>> >> had nothing to do with Japan. North Africa, Crete, Greece, and Norway
>> >> had
>> >> nothing to do with Germany. Can you spell s-t-r-a-t-e-g-i-c?
>> >
>> > You cocksuckers were all "make it glass" and "we'll be liberators from
>> > evil" then all sucky humanitarian bullshiters when I was, ALL ALONG,
>> > saying this strategy had existed since Nixon was in office.
>>
>> That was your buddy Harry.
>
> I don't remember that. I remember a lot of you righties backing up any
> excuse that Bush gave, depending on which month we were into the war.
Don't make my Google it!
> That friggin' asshole works for us, not the other way around. I want to
> know the truth about how we're investing our tax dollars and why. To
> spend hundreds of billions of dollars to control a pool of oil may be
> considered by many Americans to be folly.
"That friggin' asshole" will be out of office in about three years and you
will have the oppourtunity to put up a candidate. Let's see if you can put
forth a candidate that can actually win this time without the help of 40's
and cigs.
> I'd rather invest that money in incentives for forwarding alternatives
> to fossil fuel. But that wouldn't do much good for Bush's buddies.
> Large public works projects, bullets and ammo, oil are all good business
> for the Bush/Cheney ticket.
And what alternatives are there to fossil fuels?
Nuclear? Let's start building them now.
Wind? Let's start putting them up in the most efficient places even if it
obscures the view form Martha's vinyard and The Cape. Oh, and expect some
seagulls and raptors to die in the process.
Solar? Not ready for mass market right now.
> They're a bunch a gangsters as far as I'm concerned. Get in office to
> turn the world in the direction that'd best serve your relations.
The definition of a political party.
> It's a disgusting turn of events for our country.
Nothing has change in over 100 years. Wake up.
>> > It's about the OIL, plain and simple.
>>
>> True!
>>
>> > Not bin Laden, not Saddam, not the Saudis.
>>
>> True!
>>
>> > It's about OIL.
>>
>> True. Have you ever thought about how important OIL is in your life?
>
> It's plenty important but it's more important to know that my tax
> dollars are being spend on positive influences.
What?
>> Everything you find at your grocery store got there using OIL. Most
>> everything in the store is packaged with material that is made from OIL.
>> The
>> supplies at your doctor's office and your hospital got there by being
>> transported by an OIL.
>>
>> > NYOB's vapid argument that Caesar's analysis doesn't apply is complete
>> > bullshit. Blame was transferred by Bush and his cronies from Saudi
>> > Arabia and Afghanistan to Iraq so they could take over Saddam's big,
>> > underutilized pool of oil.
>>
>> da Vinci was the guy that really saw into the futue. Caesar and
>> Nostradamus
>> never predicted a thing.
>
> It wasn't my contention that Caesar saw the future, that was Atlanta
> Man. I say that we folded as a nation just as he said was possible.
We haven't folded yet? But, if you liberal/progressive/independent's have
your way we will pull back to our borders and cower in fear of everyone who
says boo.
>> > They beat the drums, we gave up our rights. The democrats folded like
>> > a
>> > house of cards.
>>
>> But, the Democrats are more instrested in turing the military into a
>> quick
>> reaction force for "emergencies" within the US. Much easier to declare an
>> emergency than to pass legislation.
>
> The democrats are a ship adrift. They lost their moorings when the
> Republicans stole their message.
>
>> > We don't stand for anything anymore, other than big business.
>>
>> Everyone feeds at the corporate trough because it is the engine of money
>> in
>> the world.
>
> A cooperative partnership between gov't and corporations.
And that is accomplished by tax incentives. The corporation doesn't work for
the government it works for its shareholders.
And, if the government wants to be the sole shareholder of all corporations
you will need to look towards the Soviet Union. Oh wait, it doesn't exist
anymore. That experiment failed.
> It's called Fascism.
You are an advocate of Facism. I hadn't realized that yet.
> jps
PocoLoco
wrote:
>
>"Tim" <bsch...@aol.com> wrote in message >
>> check it out before posting it Guzzi-guy
>
>Ouch .... Guzzi-Guy that must have hurt Kevin to the quick
>
Hell, it hurt me!
atl_...@yahoo.com
You're just too stupid to get it, aren't you, little twat?
Starbuck
have to start calling him Guzzi-Guy
"PocoLoco" <PocoL...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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John Gaquin
<atl_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> You're just too stupid to get it, aren't you, little twat?
I suppose so.....
:-)
P Fritz
Kevin projecting once again......and he wonders why he is the "King of the
NG idiots"?????
>
Doug Kanter
>
> "Shortwave Sportfishing" <onetw...@four.com> wrote in message
> news:c8kij198t1475iisg...@4ax.com...
>>
>>>
>>><atl_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> > "Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the
>>>>> > citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a
>>>>> > double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows
>>>>> > the
>>>>> > mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the
>>>>> > blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have
>>>>> > no
>>>>> > need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry,
>>>>> > infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of
>>>>> > their
>>>>> > have done. And I am Caesar."
>>>>>
>>>>> of
>>>>> war started banging, they started banging on 9/11.
>>>>
>>>> Where IS binLaden?
>>>
>>>
>>>Have you seen any video of him lately?
>>
>> If not dead, certainly no longer relevant.
>
>
If we had captured him, the smartest thing we could've done would've been to
kill him very quietly and thoroughly cremate his remains. No news, no
martyr, no nothing. The mafia understands this sort of thing. I wonder if
Bush could've been made to understand it, perhaps using free pretzels as a
training aid.
NOYB
"Doug Kanter" <ancien...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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That's why I think that he's already dead.
Doug Kanter
If that's the case, it's safe to assume Bush was not told.
NOYB
You sure? Considering his past (frat guy, Skull and Bones member, heavy
drinker, son of a former CIA director, President, etc), Bush strikes me as
the type who has a pretty good poker face, and can keep a secret with the
best of them.
Doug Kanter
No. His only talent is grandstanding. I seriously doubt he could keep his
mouth shut if he were told OBL had been vaporized. Remember: This is the
same moron who pulled the "mission accomplished" stunt, and waved his dick
for half a year to give Iraq time to organize opposition to the occupation.
Doug Kanter
And by the way, that's not a poker face. It's a vacant face, devoid of
comprehension.
NOYB
So you think that Bush was the one who thought up and planned that visit to
the aircraft carrier? One minute you practically claim he can't tie his
own shoes, and then the next minute you have him orchestrating a propaganda
event in front of our troops...right down to creating the slogan "Mission
Accomplished"?
> and waved his dick for half a year to give Iraq time to organize
> opposition to the occupation.
I agree. He shouldn't have had to ask for permission from Congress and the
UN. He should have struck immediately after 9/11. Unfortunately, that
pesky idea of separation of powers stood in the way.
NOYB
But just as effective! ;-)
Doug Kanter
Are you suggesting that if it was someone else's stupid idea, he was unable
to slam its contributor? What sort of chief executive is that? Or, he
thought it up himself - equally stupid. Either way, the conclusion is the
same.
Doug Kanter
In this instance, when his owners need him to stay quiet, you're correct.
NOYB
The troops enjoyed it...which was the whole purpose.
Doug Kanter
Silly. They were TOLD to enjoy it. Any who believed the "mission
accomplished" banner were idiots. But hey....a certain segment of any
population will be stupid. The military's no different.
NOYB
> Any who believed the "mission accomplished" banner were idiots. But
> hey....a certain segment of any population will be stupid. The military's
> no different.
"My fellow citizens, at this hour, American and coalition forces are in the
early stages of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free its people and
to defend the world from grave danger." (Bush, March 18th, 2003)
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That was the mission that Bush set forth when we went to war with Saddam.
So, did we not disarm Iraq and free its people from Saddam's tyrannical
rule?
Doug Kanter
You've said elsewhere that this was NOT the mission. So, the mission is NOT
accomplished.
PocoLoco
wrote:
What makes you think it wasn't done?
Bush has said OBL's not important anymore. Most dead terrorists aren't too
important.
Doug Kanter
I already explained that if OBL has been dealt with, no sane person in the
military or intelligence communities would have told Bush about it. Doesn't
your newsreader thread messages so you can backtrack in the order messages
were written?
Meanwhile, if Bush says OBL's not important, that's because it's what he was
ordered to say.
P Fritz
You got to love they way the brain dead liebrals still grasp at the "Bush is
stupid" mantra.......and lost a second election to him with that "intellect"
kerry. I hope they never learn......heehee
>
>
*JimH*
<atl_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Why such an angry reply?
Do you have a boat?
Starbuck
I have always found a nice day on the water to be extremely relaxing. Try
it.
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*JimH*
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Starbuck
crew or a fishing buddy. The only thing better than owning a boat is having
a friend who owns a boat.
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NOYB
"P Fritz" <paulfritzN...@voyager.net> wrote in message
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My favorite lines from Devil's Advocate are very applicable here:
"I'm a surprise, Kevin. They don't see me comin'. "
"No matter how good you are. Don't let them see you coming. That's the gaff,
my friend -- make yourself small. Be the hick. The cripple. The nerd. The
leper. The freak. Look at me -- I've been underestimated from day one. Do I
look like a master of the universe?"
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Bush has been "misunderestimated" since before he was Governor of Texas.
PocoLoco
wrote:
I read 'em in the order they get added to the thread.
Why should keeping the info from Bush prevent Osama from being dead?
jps
>
> "jps" <tr...@thedump.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1da38834e...@news.seanet.com...
> > In article <1127863634.7...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> > tsch...@gmail.com says...
> >> How do I know? For this is what I
> >> > have done. And I am Caesar."
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Caesar the Great.
>
> They all thought they were great!
>
> Which Ceaser?
There's no such thing as Ceasar.
The question is which Caesar and they weren't all The Great.
Doug Kanter
>>>>If we had captured him, the smartest thing we could've done would've
>>>>been
>>>>to
>>>>kill him very quietly and thoroughly cremate his remains. No news, no
>>>>martyr, no nothing. The mafia understands this sort of thing. I wonder
>>>>if
>>>>Bush could've been made to understand it, perhaps using free pretzels as
>>>>a
>>>>training aid.
>>>>
>>> What makes you think it wasn't done?
>>>
>>> Bush has said OBL's not important anymore. Most dead terrorists aren't
>>> too
>>> important.
>>
>>I already explained that if OBL has been dealt with, no sane person in the
>>military or intelligence communities would have told Bush about it.
>>Doesn't
>>your newsreader thread messages so you can backtrack in the order messages
>>were written?
>>
>>Meanwhile, if Bush says OBL's not important, that's because it's what he
>>was
>>ordered to say.
>>
>
> I read 'em in the order they get added to the thread.
>
> Why should keeping the info from Bush prevent Osama from being dead?
Re your last sentence: I didn't say that.
PocoLoco
How about Paul Newman's 'Caesar'? It's not bad.