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Harry Krause the Draft Dodger?

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secretagent

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Mar 4, 2008, 7:45:06 AM3/4/08
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Show evidence refuting the assertion and I will gladly and humbly apologize
to you.

HK

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Mar 4, 2008, 7:56:22 AM3/4/08
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secretagent wrote:
> Show evidence refuting the assertion and I will gladly and humbly
> apologize to you.


Why would I give a damn about what passes for thought in your pea-brain?

Loogy...@gmail.com

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Mar 4, 2008, 8:32:03 AM3/4/08
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On Mar 4, 7:45 am, "secretagent" <j...@usenetnet.net> wrote:
> Show evidence refuting the assertion and I will gladly and humbly apologize
> to you.

He'd just lie like he lies about everything else.

secretagent

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Mar 4, 2008, 8:34:05 AM3/4/08
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"HK" <payer...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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Thats good. Then you won't mind me speculating on why you were a draft
dodger.
I don't believe that you opted out for religious or humanitarian reasons.
Otherwise you might have sought conciensous objector status.
You say you are as healthy as a horses ass, so that rules out medical
status.
Mentally impaired. That's a possibility. But you did obtain permission to
carry concealed weapons, so we'll have to rule that reason out too.
And we can, I think, rule out convicted felon because of the weapons permit.
So then what in your history would cause the draft board to graciously drop
you from their list.

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secretagent

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Mar 4, 2008, 9:14:01 AM3/4/08
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> Lots of people who were eligible in the Viet Nam era had high draft
> lottery numbers and simply weren't called up. DUH!
>
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If that were the case, wouldn't he have said so?
Harry asserts that his name was "removed from the list".

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secretagent

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Mar 4, 2008, 9:55:09 AM3/4/08
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<sa...@dog.com> wrote in message
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> Not that I am a fan of harry's, but I don't see why Harry owes you or
> anybody else an explanation.
Right you are.

N.L. Eckert

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Mar 4, 2008, 10:39:22 AM3/4/08
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Lots of people who were eligible in the Viet Nam era had high draft
lottery numbers and simply weren't called up. DUH!
If that were the case, wouldn't he have said so? Harry asserts that his
name was "removed from the list".
Not that I am a fan of harry's, but I don't see why Harry owes you or
anybody else an explanation.
==================================
He once told me that he had a college deferment and that kept him off
the list for that time. That was the case with a lot of people at the
time, including my district manager. And, you know what? I don't blame
them one damn bit!! I would have avoided that war as quickly as
anyone. Our Idiot-in-Chief took us into one of the worst wars
imaginable and the expected the youth of the country to go fight it.
And for what?? There was no winner, only a lot of losers.....

HK

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Mar 4, 2008, 11:04:45 AM3/4/08
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Yep...I was II-S for a while. But then I graduated, and my draft status
changed to I-A. But then...fate intervened. I certainly never "dodged"
the draft.

Reginald P. Smithers III

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Mar 4, 2008, 11:23:01 AM3/4/08
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Harry,
Did you go into your "fate intervention" straight out of college?

John H.

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Mar 4, 2008, 11:32:09 AM3/4/08
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Harry, did you not earlier say that only the stupid got drafted?

Would this not imply that you exercised some sort of 'gifted intelligence'
to keep from getting drafted?

Do you see how your lies and silly comments cause people to question
everything you say?
--
***** Hope your day is better than decent! *****

John H

HK

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Mar 4, 2008, 11:38:18 AM3/4/08
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John H. wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 11:04:45 -0500, HK <payer...@mypacks.net> wrote:
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>> N.L. Eckert wrote:
>>> Lots of people who were eligible in the Viet Nam era had high draft
>>> lottery numbers and simply weren't called up. DUH!
>>> If that were the case, wouldn't he have said so? Harry asserts that his
>>> name was "removed from the list".
>>> Not that I am a fan of harry's, but I don't see why Harry owes you or
>>> anybody else an explanation.
>>> ==================================
>>> He once told me that he had a college deferment and that kept him off
>>> the list for that time. That was the case with a lot of people at the
>>> time, including my district manager. And, you know what? I don't blame
>>> them one damn bit!! I would have avoided that war as quickly as
>>> anyone. Our Idiot-in-Chief took us into one of the worst wars
>>> imaginable and the expected the youth of the country to go fight it.
>>> And for what?? There was no winner, only a lot of losers.....
>>>
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>> Yep...I was II-S for a while. But then I graduated, and my draft status
>> changed to I-A. But then...fate intervened. I certainly never "dodged"
>> the draft.
>
> Harry, did you not earlier say that only the stupid got drafted?

Dear Dumb John:

You got drafted, right? Your question, therefore, is asked and answered.

secretagent

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Mar 4, 2008, 11:56:22 AM3/4/08
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"HK" <payer...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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Lets here more about "fate". It's certainly taken you long enough to dream
that one up.

HK

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Mar 4, 2008, 12:03:46 PM3/4/08
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It's not my job to feed your obsessions, scheisskopf

Loogy...@gmail.com

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Mar 4, 2008, 12:43:51 PM3/4/08
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On Mar 4, 12:03 pm, HK <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote:
> secretagent wrote:
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> It's not my job to feed your obsessions, scheisskopf- Hide quoted text -
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In other word, yet another lie from Harry.

John H.

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Mar 4, 2008, 3:47:51 PM3/4/08
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It must suck to be so embarrassed that you have to snip three-fourths of a
post before replying.

secretagent

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He was deferred,reclassified 1A,dropped off the list, and blessed by a twist
of fate. Seems like he went to a lot of trouble to stay home with the girls.
And now he finally declares that he is not a draft dodger. I guess we should
believe him. Eh. Harry wouldn't lie, would he?

JimH

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"secretagent" <j...@usenetnet.net> wrote in message
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I am not defending Harry but I have to ask this question to you, Booger,
Herring and Reggie....

Why the hell are you guys so obsessed about him and his past/present life?
I can understand 3rd graders engaged in that behavior, but not grown men.
You are all making an ass of yourself. Grow up.


justwaitaf...@gmail.com

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Mar 4, 2008, 4:28:58 PM3/4/08
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On Mar 4, 4:25 pm, "JimH" <as...@nope.com> wrote:
> "secretagent" <j...@usenetnet.net> wrote in message
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> >> On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 11:38:18 -0500, HK <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote:
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I can't speak for them, but I can for me. I have been laid up for a
while, and bored too. Sparing with Harry is fun, I think he likes it
too, what's the harm? a bunch of crazy old men waiting for the snow to
melt...;)

John H.

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Mar 4, 2008, 4:33:53 PM3/4/08
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On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 13:28:58 -0800 (PST), justwaitaf...@gmail.com
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Sparring with soft butter is much more fun, and more mentally stimulating.

HK

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Mar 4, 2008, 4:54:16 PM3/4/08
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I answered your question, dummy.

Short Wave Sportfishing

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Mar 4, 2008, 4:57:19 PM3/4/08
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On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:06:52 -0500, "secretagent" <j...@usenetnet.net>
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>He was deferred,reclassified 1A,dropped off the list, and blessed by a twist
>of fate. Seems like he went to a lot of trouble to stay home with the girls.
>And now he finally declares that he is not a draft dodger. I guess we should
>believe him. Eh. Harry wouldn't lie, would he?

It was 40+ years ago - a whole different lifetime.

I'm not defending Harry, but get a freakin' life.

Nobody cares anymore.

HK

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Mar 4, 2008, 5:01:04 PM3/4/08
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We just *know* where you slather on that soft butter, and there is no
question for you it is more stimulating.

Loogy...@gmail.com

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Mar 4, 2008, 5:02:59 PM3/4/08
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On Mar 4, 5:01 pm, HK <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote:
> John H. wrote:
> > On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 13:28:58 -0800 (PST), justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com
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Wow, what refinement and culture you exude......

Loogy...@gmail.com

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Mar 4, 2008, 5:04:04 PM3/4/08
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> melt...;)- Hide quoted text -

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I'd get along fine with Harry if it weren't for his incessant lies.....

Loogy...@gmail.com

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On Mar 4, 4:25 pm, "JimH" <as...@nope.com> wrote:
> "secretagent" <j...@usenetnet.net> wrote in message
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> >> On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 11:38:18 -0500, HK <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote:
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> You are all making an ass of yourself.  Grow up.- Hide quoted text -
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He needs help for his chronic lying. It's a mental disease. I've
answered yours now you answer mine. Speaking of grown men, would a
mentally stable grown man say nasty things, and tell lies about
someone's children?

HK

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Mar 4, 2008, 5:11:01 PM3/4/08
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For you to get along with me, I'd have to want to get along with you.
For the most part, I don't associate with dumb turds like you. So, there
is little chance you would "get along with" me.

BAR

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Mar 4, 2008, 7:30:31 PM3/4/08
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He can try and spin it any way he wants. When his country called he
turned and ran.

HK

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Mar 4, 2008, 7:38:52 PM3/4/08
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You idiots need to get a life. Neither of you have even a clue.

BAR

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Mar 4, 2008, 7:45:13 PM3/4/08
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Sure we do, we know that you are either a draft dodger or the military
would not accept you.

HK

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Mar 4, 2008, 7:48:40 PM3/4/08
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Hehehehe. Tonight's giggle, supplied by a pair of numnutz.

Sorry, but I didn't "dodge" the draft, nor was I "unacceptable" by the
military.

justwaitaf...@gmail.com

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Mar 4, 2008, 7:49:54 PM3/4/08
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> I'd get along fine with Harry if it weren't for his incessant lies.....- Hide quoted text -

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But he is just another sock puppet, here to play... Let me retell a
story of an interview I saw just after the Imus, ho, comments. I think
it might have been Dave Chappelle (sp?), a black actor was being
interviewed. The comment to me was actually life altering... He said
simply:

"It's not what someone calls you, it's what you answer to...". Think
about it...

JimH

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<justwaitaf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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=========

Scott, you have a perverse view on the reason this NG exists. To you it is
a playground where arguing and personally attacking members here is
acceptable.

That sort of thinking is what led this NG into the gutter.

Gotta go.............time to see if I can entice my wife to turn off
American Idol............. ;-)


justwaitaf...@gmail.com

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On Mar 4, 8:00 pm, "JimH" <as...@nope.com> wrote:
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Uh, no I don't. I rarely argue, I try to debate. Personal attacks are
not my forte either (except for drunken joe who I truly dislike).. I
do however respect the freedom of speech of others here...

John H.

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Mar 4, 2008, 8:25:11 PM3/4/08
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I got out of the service almost 20 years ago. Yet Harry receives no flak
for his derogatory comments about same, whether mine or anyone else's.

Share the wealth, Tom.


John H.

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Mar 4, 2008, 8:29:13 PM3/4/08
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Do you three think of nothing else?

justwaitaf...@gmail.com

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Mar 4, 2008, 8:38:59 PM3/4/08
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On Mar 4, 8:29 pm, John H. <jherringnumerical...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:01:04 -0500, HK <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote:
> >John H. wrote:
> >> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 13:28:58 -0800 (PST), justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com
> Do you three think of nothing else?- Hide quoted text -

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To suggest that I have ever engaged in the sexually perverted insults
thrown around here is dishonest, nothing less... I thought you were
better than that...

HK

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Mar 4, 2008, 8:42:07 PM3/4/08
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Now that you and Herring are discussing your perversions, I thought a
subject change was in order.

How typically Republican: "sex" is so scary!


>>snerk<<

Short Wave Sportfishing

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Mar 4, 2008, 8:51:17 PM3/4/08
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Because it doesn't matter what Harry thinks.

It's as simple as that.

You served honorably, went above and beyond the call making it a
career and rose to Staff command level.

Why should you care what he thinks? He can make all the idiotic
comments he wants - he has no clue what you had to sacrifice or the
effort made to achieve your Staff level rank.

The only way that achievement can be taken away from you is for you to
take it away from yourself. If you react to his taunts, then he wins
and you look foolish.

I was just a grunt - dumbass Marine, but I would think that an officer
and a gentleman would understand when he's being played and just
ignore it.

Then again, maybe not.

>Share the wealth, Tom.

I just did.

A. B. Negative

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On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 17:38:59 -0800 (PST),
justwaitaf...@gmail.com wrote:

>To suggest that I have ever engaged in the sexually perverted insults
>thrown around here is dishonest, nothing less... I thought you were
>better than that...

Jeff Gordon is still gay. :>)

justwaitaf...@gmail.com

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On Mar 4, 8:56 pm, A. B. Negative <a...@bnegative.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 17:38:59 -0800 (PST),
>
> justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
> >To suggest that I have ever engaged in the sexually perverted insults
> >thrown around here is dishonest, nothing less... I thought you were
> >better than that...>

> Jeff Gordon is still gay. :>)

Got me there, I guess that was pretty vulgar, directed at someone
here, and of course, said with malicious intent. Yup, I should be
ashamed of my self, lucky I hide behind a sock puppet so I don't have
to be accountable for what I say here.. oh wait... forget it...

A. B. Negative

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His car is gay too. :>)

justwaitaf...@gmail.com

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On Mar 4, 9:54 pm, A. B. Negative <a...@bnegative.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 18:32:05 -0800 (PST),
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Now that's just wierd. Is it the colors, or the bowtie?

A. B. Negative

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Both.

HK

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HK

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HK

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HK

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justwaitaf...@gmail.com

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On Mar 4, 10:02 pm, HK <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote:
> justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Mar 4, 9:54 pm, A. B. Negative <a...@bnegative.com> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 18:32:05 -0800 (PST),
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> >> justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Mar 4, 8:56 pm, A. B. Negative <a...@bnegative.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 17:38:59 -0800 (PST),
> >>>> justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>> To suggest that I have ever engaged in the sexually perverted insults
> >>>>> thrown around here is dishonest, nothing less... I thought you were
> >>>>> better than that...>
> >>>> Jeff Gordon is still gay. :>)
> >>> Got me there, I guess that was pretty vulgar, directed at someone
> >>> here, and of course, said with malicious intent. Yup, I should be
> >>> ashamed of my self, lucky I hide behind a sock puppet so I don't have
> >>> to be accountable for what I say here.. oh wait... forget it...
> >> His car is gay too.  :>)
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;) must be the bowtie..

Reginald P. Smithers III

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I do think it is funny that JimH who has made up lies about Chuck
posting his home phone number just so he could argue and launch a
personal attach on Chuck is lecturing you about arguing. Even when
many people stated that Chuck never posted his telephone, JimH just kept
on lying, only when someone posted a photo of the original web page that
was saved on his server, did JimH suddenly decide to apologize.

JimH, the guy who insisted Harry was stalking him and making personal
threats to him and his wife, is now wondering if personal attacking
members is acceptable. While Harry has made many derogatory comments,
about many people, he never stalked JimH nor made any threats to him or
his wife. This is the guy who wants to slap your wrist about having a
lively debate.

JimH the guy who has pulled Bassy/Loogy strings for years and many
hundreds of post, by making insulting and derogatory personal comments
about Bassy/Loggy's wife and family, now wants to play the martyr, and
make more lies about other people insulting his wife.

It is funny watching JimH, he really is an interesting "character".

Reginald P. Smithers III

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Me thinks you must be insecure on your own sexuality, :) Why don't
you and Tom just get a room.

HK

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HK

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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

justwaitaf...@gmail.com

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On Mar 4, 10:05 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" <"Reggie is Here
"@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Dude really did all that, holy shit....??

HK

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secretagent

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"JimH" <as...@nope.com> wrote in message
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It started before you got on board Jim. Harry was doing the exact same dog
and pony show when I first looked at the group years ago. His straight men
have changed over the years but he hasn't. The nastiness you see from some
of us is drawn out by old Harry boy himself. You want to change the tone of
the group, change Harry or get rid of him. I tried to put some heat under
his tail but apparently it didn't work. I was counting on him having a
modicum of self respect but I couldn't find any in him. There is no way to
get to this man. He's like an empty head with a wind up mouth. I give up.

HK

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I'd just *love* to run into Reggie in one of my "blue collar" bars and
take bet on how long it takes for someone to make him eat a dirt sandwich.

HK

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JimH

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"HK" <payer...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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Once.......sorry for posting through you Harry.

To address the allegations of Reggie:

1. I indeed lied about Chuck posting my address. I admitted to the lie and
apologized to Chuck. Chuck accepted my apology. I would rather be a liar,
as 99.9% of people are, than a person who mocks health conditions of others.

2. I indeed pulled/pulls Bassy/Loogy/Booger strings, as you and Herring did
for years and many hundreds of posts.

3. You need to get a life.

JimH

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JimH

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<justwaitaf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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=============
There are always 2 sides to a story Scott. I posted my response to Reggies
lies.

I guess I can now call him a liar.

BTW: Do you know Reggie's and Booger's first names? I am not asking for
their full names, as they know mine...........just their first names. If
so.......will you post them?


JimH

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"secretagent" <j...@usenetnet.net> wrote in message
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I remember a post from Dick (Eiscboch) a while back regarding you (Florida
Jim) stating "when Jim speaks, folks listen". He was talking about your
knowledge of marine engines.

Until recently I saw nothing to prove that statement wrong.

You then morphed into a Harry attack dog, even going to the extreme of
changing your handle a couple of times.

Go back to your roots Jim. Otherwise you look like a Booger, Herring or
Reggie.


justwaitaf...@gmail.com

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On Mar 4, 10:43 pm, "JimH" <as...@nope.com> wrote:
> <justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I do, but I would never post them. I live here by the "stays in Vegas"
rule. Info I am offered off list, stays off list... period.

secretagent

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"JimH" <as...@nope.com> wrote in message
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Yes I do. Why do you want to know?

secretagent

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"JimH" <as...@nope.com> wrote in message
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I recall you getting mad at a certain someone because he has more stuff than
you. I see you attacking Harry one day and sticking your nose up his butt
the next. I see you as rather two faced. Now do you really think I value
your thoughts? Nitey nite. Don't let the bed bugs bite.


JimH

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"secretagent" <j...@usenetnet.net> wrote in message
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ROTFLMAO. Not true. Regardless:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8896213084482448693

>I see you attacking Harry one day and sticking your nose up his butt the
>next. I see you as rather two faced. Now do you really think I value your
>thoughts? Nitey nite. Don't let the bed bugs bite.
>
>

See if you can find the man you once were as you have morphed into a sad
pile of crap.


HK

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Reginald P. Smithers III

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I have gone to many blue collar bars when calling on factory to see how
a new installation is working. I have no problems with blue collar
guys or their "juke joints".

Reginald P. Smithers III

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"secretagent" <j...@usenetnet.net> wrote in message
JimH wrote:
>I recall you getting mad at a certain someone because he has more stuff
> than you.
>
> ROTFLMAO. Not true.

JimH (Ohwoeisme)

Sure it is. Certainly you remember going on one of your tirades
directed at Eisboch because he made a post about one of his new toys.
While he was just sharing his enjoyment, you felt like he should not
flaunt his wealth, a that he was bragging too much.


>
>> I see you attacking Harry one day and sticking your nose up his butt the
>> next. I see you as rather two faced. Now do you really think I value your
>> thoughts? Nitey nite. Don't let the bed bugs bite.

> See if you can find the man you once were as you have morphed into a sad
> pile of crap.

Now I am not certain, but I do think this would qualify as a personal
attack on your part.

While it would be very easy for me to Google your posts about Chucks
email, your 100's of personal insult directed towards Bassy/Loogy wife
and kids, your posts about Harry stalking and making threats towards you
and your wife etc, your ridiculing Don for taking care of his mother
etc, you will not be able to find one posts where I commented about your
back or your wife.

Ohwoeisme, don't you think everyone in here has your number?

Reginald P. Smithers III

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JimH wrote:

>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Dude really did all that, holy shit....??
> =============
> There are always 2 sides to a story Scott. I posted my response to Reggies
> lies.

Of course there are two sides to a story. In this case, there is your
side, and then there is the truth.

Now can you show me the post where I commented about your back or your wife?

Of course I can find 100's where you accused Harry of stalking you and
threating you and your wife.


HK

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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

HK

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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

John H.

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On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 17:38:59 -0800 (PST), justwaitaf...@gmail.com
wrote:

>On Mar 4, 8:29 pm, John H. <jherringnumerical...@yahoo.com> wrote:


>> On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:01:04 -0500, HK <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote:
>> >John H. wrote:

>> >> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 13:28:58 -0800 (PST), justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com
>> >> wrote:


>>
>> >>> On Mar 4, 4:25 pm, "JimH" <as...@nope.com> wrote:
>> >>>> "secretagent" <j...@usenetnet.net> wrote in message
>>

>> >>>> - Show quoted text -

>> >>> I can't speak for them, but I can for me. I have been laid up for a
>> >>> while, and bored too. Sparing with Harry is fun, I think he likes it
>> >>> too, what's the harm? a bunch of crazy old men waiting for the snow to
>> >>> melt...;)
>>

>> >> Sparring with soft butter is much more fun, and more mentally stimulating.
>>
>> >We just *know* where you slather on that soft butter, and there is no
>> >question for you it is more stimulating.
>>
>> Do you three think of nothing else?- Hide quoted text -


>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>

>To suggest that I have ever engaged in the sexually perverted insults
>thrown around here is dishonest, nothing less... I thought you were
>better than that...

You don't qualify to be one of the 'you three' mentioned! That comment was
to Harry and his two sidekicks, who manage to find sexual innuendos in
aircraft carriers.

John H.

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On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 01:51:17 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
<em...@swsports.org> wrote:

>On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:25:11 -0500, John H.
><jherringnu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 21:57:19 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
>><em...@swsports.org> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:06:52 -0500, "secretagent" <j...@usenetnet.net>
>>>wrote:


>>>
>>>>He was deferred,reclassified 1A,dropped off the list, and blessed by a twist
>>>>of fate. Seems like he went to a lot of trouble to stay home with the girls.
>>>>And now he finally declares that he is not a draft dodger. I guess we should
>>>>believe him. Eh. Harry wouldn't lie, would he?
>>>

>>>It was 40+ years ago - a whole different lifetime.
>>>
>>>I'm not defending Harry, but get a freakin' life.
>>>
>>>Nobody cares anymore.
>>
>>I got out of the service almost 20 years ago. Yet Harry receives no flak
>>for his derogatory comments about same, whether mine or anyone else's.
>
>Because it doesn't matter what Harry thinks.
>
>It's as simple as that.
>
>You served honorably, went above and beyond the call making it a
>career and rose to Staff command level.
>
>Why should you care what he thinks? He can make all the idiotic
>comments he wants - he has no clue what you had to sacrifice or the
>effort made to achieve your Staff level rank.
>
>The only way that achievement can be taken away from you is for you to
>take it away from yourself. If you react to his taunts, then he wins
>and you look foolish.
>
>I was just a grunt - dumbass Marine, but I would think that an officer
>and a gentleman would understand when he's being played and just
>ignore it.
>
>Then again, maybe not.
>
>>Share the wealth, Tom.
>
>I just did.

You're a great American, Tom.


John H.

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On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:05:10 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" <"Reggie is
Here "@yahoo.com> wrote:

I can't abide liars.

HK

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John H.

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On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:52:05 -0800 (PST), justwaitaf...@gmail.com
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Very wise.

HK

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Loogy...@gmail.com

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On Mar 4, 10:37 pm, "JimH" <as...@nope.com> wrote:
> "HK" <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote in message

>
> news:636hdvF...@mid.individual.net...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
> 3.  You need to get a life.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Jim, you repeatedly lied about my wife and children. That's as low as
a man can go. You proved yourself nothing but gutter trash by doing so.

Loogy...@gmail.com

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On Mar 4, 10:34 pm, HK <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote:
> HK wrote:

> > justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Mar 4, 10:05 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" <"Reggie is Here
> >>> It is funny watching JimH, he really is an interesting "character".-

> >>> Hide quoted text -
>
> >>> - Show quoted text -
>
> >> Dude really did all that, holy shit....??
>
> I'd just *love* to run into Reggie in one of my "blue collar" bars and
> take bet on how long it takes for someone to make him eat a dirt sandwich.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

I'll take you up on that, Harry.

Loogy...@gmail.com

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> Dude really did all that, holy shit....??- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Yes, he did, and worse. How ya feeling, by the way?

Loogy...@gmail.com

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On Mar 4, 9:59 pm, justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Mar 4, 9:54 pm, A. B. Negative <a...@bnegative.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 18:32:05 -0800 (PST),
>
> > justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:

> > >On Mar 4, 8:56 pm, A. B. Negative <a...@bnegative.com> wrote:
> > >> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 17:38:59 -0800 (PST),
>
> > >> justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> >To suggest that I have ever engaged in the sexually perverted insults
> > >> >thrown around here is dishonest, nothing less... I thought you were
> > >> >better than that...>
>
> > >> Jeff Gordon is still gay. :>)
>
> > >Got me there, I guess that was pretty vulgar, directed at someone
> > >here, and of course, said with malicious intent. Yup, I should be
> > >ashamed of my self, lucky I hide behind a sock puppet so I don't have
> > >to be accountable for what I say here.. oh wait... forget it...
>
> > His car is gay too.  :>)
>
> Now that's just wierd. Is it the colors, or the bowtie?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Yes.

HK

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On Mar 4, 5:11 pm, HK <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote:
> LoogyPic...@gmail.com wrote:

> > On Mar 4, 4:28 pm, justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Mar 4, 4:25 pm, "JimH" <as...@nope.com> wrote:
>
> >>> "secretagent" <j...@usenetnet.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:47cdbab9$0$12759$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
> >>>> "John H." <jherringnumerical...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:8adrs3t5sr4a9olml...@4ax.com...
> >>>>> On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 11:38:18 -0500, HK <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote:
> >>>> He was deferred,reclassified 1A,dropped off the list, and blessed by a
> >>>> twist of fate. Seems like he went to a lot of trouble to stay home with
> >>>> the girls. And now he finally declares that he is not a draft dodger. I
> >>>> guess we should believe him. Eh. Harry wouldn't lie, would he?
> >>> I am not defending Harry but I have to ask this question to you, Booger,
> >>> Herring and Reggie....
> >>> Why the hell are you guys so obsessed about him and his past/present life?
> >>> I can understand 3rd graders engaged in that behavior, but not grown men.
> >>> You are all making an ass of yourself.  Grow up.- Hide quoted text -

> >>> - Show quoted text -
> >> I can't speak for them, but I can for me. I have been laid up for a
> >> while, and bored too. Sparing with Harry is fun, I think he likes it
> >> too, what's the harm? a bunch of crazy old men waiting for the snow to
> >> melt...;)- Hide quoted text -

>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > I'd get along fine with Harry if it weren't for his incessant lies.....
>
> For you to get along with me, I'd have to want to get along with you.
> For the most part, I don't associate with dumb turds like you. So, there
> is little chance you would "get along with" me.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

How refined and cultured.....

Tim

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Hary, how many times can you change the title fo this thread?

Lets see it starterd out: harry Krause the Draft Dodger, then you
changed it to
1) "Sexually perverted insults?", then
2) "Gay Racing Car Drivers",
3) "More on Gay Racing Car Drivers"
4) "And still more on gay racing car drivers"
5) "Reggie's pot stirring- nothing new"
6) "More of Reggie's pot sirring"
7) "Reggie stirs up the carp with frekin"
8) "Jim in Florida' takes the whole bottle of Viagra"
9) "More trash from :Jim in Florida"
10) Even more trash from Jim in Florida"
11) Jim H vs. Jim in Florida
12) More nastiness from 'Reggie'
13) Reggie: No boating plent'o' nastiness
14) Herring discusses his sexual prefferences
15) Herring plays kissy-face
16) Herring claims he can't stand himself.
17) Herring: nothng about boats.

Why, Harry?


I change headers on chinaSpam because we on Google, don't have
filters, and see all the hideous titles to SPAM, but to torture a
thread like this?

Actully, my opinion (fwiw) is this isn't becoming of a person of
which you would claim to be.
I can imagine this coming from a nameless, faceless troller, but not
of a person of any type of educational or professional standard.

Why stoop to the behaviour that some would expect you to?

Just a thought


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> > How refined and cultured.....- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

I take it you just can't help it?

John H.

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Tim, I think he's trying to make a name for himself.

Somehow, I haven't seen most of those titles. All I've been seeing is his
'HK', which is more than enough.

Tim

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On Mar 5, 7:35 am, John H. <jherringnumerical...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 'HK', which is more than enough.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

John here's whe us gold fish see: in the upper right of the first
column, click sort by date, then follow the thread down, you'll see
what I'm talking about.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.boats/browse_frm/thread/80ab36fc23f595d6?scoring=d&

HK

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I'm simply altering the headlines to reflect the contents of the
postings. If, for example, Herring or Loogy use an existing thread to go
into "attack mode," then the subject no longer is relevant. I'm adding
relevancy to the posts of the dirtbags, that's all!

HK

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John H.

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Damn!

I'm glad I've got Agent. If you want it, let me know. I think I can fix you
up, but it's an old version.

HK

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"secretagent" <j...@usenetnet.net> wrote in message
news:030eb850$0$25824$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
>
> "JimH" <as...@nope.com> wrote in message
> news:47ce18d1$0$24105$4c36...@roadrunner.com...

>>
>> "secretagent" <j...@usenetnet.net> wrote in message
>> news:030eaf41$0$25840$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
>>>
>>> "JimH" <as...@nope.com> wrote in message
>>> news:47cdf0ad$0$24083$4c36...@roadrunner.com...
>>>>
>>>> <justwaitaf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:3208ed40-63df-4cc9...@o77g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> > > You are all making an ass of yourself. Grow up.- Hide quoted
>>>>> > > text -
>>>>>
>>>>> > > - Show quoted text -
>>>>>
>>>>> > I can't speak for them, but I can for me. I have been laid up for a
>>>>> > while, and bored too. Sparing with Harry is fun, I think he likes it
>>>>> > too, what's the harm? a bunch of crazy old men waiting for the snow
>>>>> > to
>>>>> > melt...;)- Hide quoted text -

>>>>>
>>>>> > - Show quoted text -
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd get along fine with Harry if it weren't for his incessant
>>>>> lies.....- Hide quoted text -

>>>>>
>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>
>>>> But he is just another sock puppet, here to play... Let me retell a
>>>> story of an interview I saw just after the Imus, ho, comments. I think
>>>> it might have been Dave Chappelle (sp?), a black actor was being
>>>> interviewed. The comment to me was actually life altering... He said
>>>> simply:

>>>>
>>>> "It's not what someone calls you, it's what you answer to...". Think
>>>> about it...
>>>> =========
>>>>
>>>> Scott, you have a perverse view on the reason this NG exists. To you
>>>> it is a playground where arguing and personally attacking members here
>>>> is acceptable.
>>>>
>>>> That sort of thinking is what led this NG into the gutter.
>>>>
>>>> Gotta go.............time to see if I can entice my wife to turn off
>>>> American Idol............. ;-)
>>>>
>>> It started before you got on board Jim. Harry was doing the exact same
>>> dog and pony show when I first looked at the group years ago. His
>>> straight men have changed over the years but he hasn't. The nastiness
>>> you see from some of us is drawn out by old Harry boy himself. You want
>>> to change the tone of the group, change Harry or get rid of him. I tried
>>> to put some heat under his tail but apparently it didn't work. I was
>>> counting on him having a modicum of self respect but I couldn't find any
>>> in him. There is no way to get to this man. He's like an empty head with
>>> a wind up mouth. I give up.
>>
>> I remember a post from Dick (Eiscboch) a while back regarding you
>> (Florida Jim) stating "when Jim speaks, folks listen". He was talking
>> about your knowledge of marine engines.
>>
>> Until recently I saw nothing to prove that statement wrong.
>>
>> You then morphed into a Harry attack dog, even going to the extreme of
>> changing your handle a couple of times.
>>
>> Go back to your roots Jim. Otherwise you look like a Booger, Herring or
>> Reggie.
>>
> I recall you getting mad at a certain someone because he has more stuff
> than you. I see you attacking Harry one day and sticking your nose up his
> butt the next. I see you as rather two faced. Now do you really think I
> value your thoughts? Nitey nite. Don't let the bed bugs bite.
>
>

You are an immature asshole Jim. See ya!


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