Getting the details on the boat lined out.
Tim
compactness and available space management it's going to be OK.
First, we took the loose floor out of the 23' Marquis. nothing wrong
with the plywood, but somebody had taken the floor out before and just
literally cut the wood to fit, set it in tacked it down to the
stringers, and put carpet over it. No gluing or fiber/epoxy . Well,
that made the front seats rather wobbly, and seeing they are captains
style chairs on an aluminum pillar I figured there was a lot of wasted
space so they have to go. This 20' junker (Tri-Sonic) i bought has a
good fuel tank and is made on the order of the one in the Marquis. a
26 gal. And will fit on the starboard side and be tied together. We've
already pulled the drawings off the 'net to see how it is done and
done right, so now I'll have double the fuel capacity.. Then we are
going to make a couple storage boxes to place below the front seats.
This will provide lots of room for fresh water storage, a small sink
will be mounted in the top of the box with drainage to go to the
Bildge. I don't think that rinsing out a coffee cup or brushing your
teeth will hurt the Ohio river when the bilge pump kicks in.
underneath that box will be a removable plastic 10 gal. freshwater
tank which will be fed to a spigot via a small 12v RV pump. Also, I'm
entertaining hot water via a heat exchange from the engine, OR using
a heating element. I already have mounted my 200a battery isolator
and 1500w inverter and this will be more than ample to feed a coffee
pot and small microwave which will be located in the box on the port
side. All this will be inside securable closet doors that will be
sturdy for a pounding. No reason to have stuff spill out because you
hit a wake hard or something like that.
I'm also finding room to mount a small 120v "dorm' refrigerator which
i already have,and I've also found room for 2 8D batteries to be
fueled by the inverter. A standard automotive battery will still be
for the engine. And i already have the 180a. Alternator to install
with room to carry a smaller spare. extra prop and tools (under the
floor)
We will be modifying the cuddie for a porta-throne and some other
storage stuff the wife will probably enjoy.
My carpenter buddy will be coming down this week to measure out the
boxes so he can have put them together in his shop.
Also all this doesn't exceed the boats 1000 lb weight capacity.
including the Mrs. and myself. PLUS, with the exception of the seat
boxes, all this stuff can be installed at the launch site so there's
not an extra burden on the trailer or the hull while towing.
I'll have to take pictures of the process.
BTW, Many tanks to John H. for allowing me to examine his camper
trailer to get some ideas on building my boat. it's amazing how much
stuff can be installed in small quarters with maximum efficiency. I
was very impressed!
Wayne.B
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You're going to need nothing less than a big Leece-Neville alternator
and a whole bunch of batteries to drive that 1500 watt inverter.
Don't ask me how I know. :-)
Tim
Actually I'm using the modified Motorola i was going to send you.
Well the trick isn't' to try to push all that stuff at once. I
wouldnt' be using a half of the normal power at any given time. The
only reason I'm using a 1500 is because I have it and i have a 350w.
so....
I also thought it would be interesting to have it all hooked up to an
8-d battery and see how long it would take to run a 120v, block heater
in a 10 gal tank and see how the battery would last heating the water
up to 150 degrees.
just something to dink with of course and no practicality, but.....
?;^ )
MMC
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Sounds like a plan Tim.
If I may, I've used solar showers quite a bit and they work well, might find
a couple plastic jerry jugs and paint them black to give the temp a little
boost. Stowed on deck of course.
Also, the hand pumps work good for potable water, people use less if they
have to pump rather than just opening the faucet.
Just my 2c.
Tim
Thanks man. i know exactly what you mean, but actually this is a 23'
boat where i need the maximum efficiency for the comodities i'm using.
There's not going to be room for a shower, but I suppose i should have
posted that i'm also going to have a hand held nozzle like what you
would find at a kitchen sink which will be good for 'hosing off' and
and a small electric pump will work good for that.
I'm outfitting this boat to do a 100+ mile river cruise this summer,
so it won't be a live aboard and there are marina's scattered along
the way, but i thought the equipment might make the trip a bit more
pleasant. Now the wife won't stand sleeping on the boat or camping on
a bank. so it looks like it's motel time there....
i guess you can't have everything....
MMC
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Gotcha Tim! I was picturing sleeping on the boat tied off to a tree but when
think about it, there is no much chance of me getting my Mrs to do that
either!
Harryk
> In article<4d29dbc9$0$5413$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> eod...@yahoo.com says...
> pole and keep a couple of those Solar Shower bags on deck during the
> day. Just hang the bag from a pole holder and oar or something and you
> have nice warm water to wash off at the end of the day... Really, they
> work great, no wiring necessary;)
And don't forget the clothesline. And a place to throw the trash.
Tim
> In article <4d29dbc9$0$5413$9a6e1...@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> eod...@yahoo.com says...
> pole and keep a couple of those Solar Shower bags on deck during the
> day. Just hang the bag from a pole holder and oar or something and you
> have nice warm water to wash off at the end of the day... Really, they
> work great, no wiring necessary;)
>
>
>
> > so it won't be a live aboard and there are marina's scattered along
> > the way, but i thought the equipment might make the trip a bit more
> > pleasant. Now the wife won't stand sleeping on the boat or camping on
> > a bank. so it looks like it's motel time there....
>
> > i guess you can't have everything....
> > ======
> > Gotcha Tim! I was picturing sleeping on the boat tied off to a tree but when
> > think about it, there is no much chance of me getting my Mrs to do that
> > either!
>
> Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever!
Scott, I know the principle, because my dad had an outside shower in
an old building out back behind his house. He had a 200 gal propane
tank on a stand that was painted in black. As the sun hit it, it
warmed up pretty good especially int he hottest of summer. it did make
a pretty good water heater, but when the sun went down so did the
water temp. But it was fun while it lasted.
Tim
trash bin for what little there will be is in the design,a nd
clothsline? in my younger years, on my ancient Chris Craft, i used to
hang my swim trunks on the radio's whip antenna, it also worked good
for bra's and panties too!
Tim
> help.....
>
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> enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
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i wish you did to, Gene, the neat science about the whole deal is we
aren't really sacrificing any interior room. just taking advantage of
the wasted space.that's already there, and trying to put some "I
already thought of that" into the project.
John H
No sweat. You're most welcome!
Tim
> to look for maximization of space..... that's ALL, though....
>
> --
> It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are
> enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
> -Thomas Sowell
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Well, you know the old joke about how they got their name.....
Anyhow, i think the "bubble boat" craze started the whole idea of
making the best efficiency of available space .
now that i look back on my old 27' Chris Craft Cavalier, it was
equipped with about the most creature comforts you could get in a boat
like that, but stuff was really sprawled out and there was a lot of
wasted room.
Granted the refrigerator was 120 v. shore power only and was a
proverbial and heavy 'ice box' and no such thing as a microwave...
So glad that modern products have improved over the years. And you
know what is available and how to use them accordingly.