KMC Missing link
Sammy Shuford
during installation
carl...@comcast.net
wrote:
>Is this link removable? (To allow chain removal) or permanent once set
>during installation
Dear Sammy,
It's advertised as removable.
Some people disassemble removable links effortlessly. Others find them
impossible.
Poor technique, dirt, and excessive wear can sometimes make it easier
to use a chain tool and another "removable" link.
Google the archives for some tips about these convenient, intuitive,
easy-to-use, and sometimes frustrating devices:
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=removable+link+kmc
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
Werehatrack
wrote:
>Is this link removable? (To allow chain removal) or permanent once set
>during installation
KMC says "no". If you install it as-is, that may be true. I find,
however, that if the two little nubs on the inside of the sideplates
manage to somehow vanish (the action of a file in this area has been
implicated but never proven) then the link works just like the other
brands, and unsnaps fairly easily. YMMV. HTH. HAND. (These
acronyms are not approved by the American Association for the
Abolition of Acronym Abuse Regional Group Headquarters Strategic and
Tactical Operations Planners.[AAAAARGHSTOP])
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Ozark Bicycle
carl...@comcast.net wrote:
> On 24 May 2006 17:56:13 -0700, "Sammy Shuford" <star...@sc.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Is this link removable? (To allow chain removal) or permanent once set
> >during installation
>
> Dear Sammy,
>
> It's advertised as removable.
Is it now? Let's go to the source:
Click on "missing link"
See: installation instructions.
Funny, I don't see any removal instructions.
But, I'm quite sure the formidable Carl Fogel knows more than KMC does
about their own product. And he's ready to prove it with a big dollop
of passive-aggressive "humor".
Care to share, Fogel?
"Cheers"
<Fogelesque blather snipped for clarity>
john
Abolition of Acronym Abuse Regional Group Headquarters Strategic and
Tactical Operations Planners.[AAAAARGHSTOP])
Best laugh I've had all day, John
carl...@comcast.net
<bicycle...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/ef409dc16826af36?dmode=source
Ozark Bicycle
You clearly said: "It is advertised as removable". Now, prove that
point or withdraw.
carl...@comcast.net
Ozark Bicycle
Which goes to prove your sleazy ways, but has nothing whatever to do
with the fiction you posted: that the KMC Missing Link is "advertised
as removable".
Prove your point or withdraw.
carl...@comcast.net
Ozark Bicycle
Dear Carl,
I know you are earnest and want to provide proof the the KMC Missing
Link is "advertised as removable". But, this link seems to fail to do
so. Please advise.
Cheers!
OZ
Werehatrack
is clearly labelled "New" and "Reusable", so it is certainly true that
KMC makes a reusable Missing Link, but I have not found that product
line listed as available in the US with that labelling. From the KMC
site in Taiwan, it appears that the designs of the connector links
were revised fairly recently (the part numbers seem to have changed
from what I recall) which may reflect that new tech. Unfortunately,
it looks like the US distributor is sitting on a pile of the older
Missing Links with the problematic nubs that frustrate attempts to
remove the link.
So it looks like this is an Elvish answer.
carl...@comcast.net
<bicycle...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/69e71f5336fde014?dmode=source
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/d65204c76c671378?dmode=source
Ozark Bicycle
Prove the relevance, please!
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/d65204c76c671378?dmode=source
This was posted after your "advertised as removable" claim, Twit.
I knew you were a bit of a pompous ass, but, until this exchange, I had
no idea of the dimensions.Sad.
carl...@comcast.net
Ozark Bicycle
Dear Carl,
Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, try as I might, I can't find
anything that relates to KMC Missing Links. Now, I know you would never
post an off topic link, so please point me to the relevant post.
Cheers,
Oz
carl...@comcast.net
<bicycle...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.misc/msg/7dd1a48c569a7b08?dmode=source
Ozark Bicycle
Dear Carl,
Nothing about KMC Missing Links there either.
Are you admitting that, while you had no evidence that KMC Missing
Links were "advertised as removable", you have a very hard time
admitting you were just wrong when you said they were "advertised as
removable"?
Sad.
Cheers,
Oz
Werehatrack
Antti Salonen
why you both insist on quoting everything said before, or is it part of
the act?
I can spoil this by revealing that I have removed the Missing Link on my
KMC X-10 dozens of times. No problems. I can't see how there even
could be a problem, as the link is pretty much identical to the SRAM
PowerLink. It doesn't know how many times it has been removed and
reattached.
-as
aloha
i'm using X10-93 SILVER chain and MISSING LINK 10-SPEED
and take m on and off all the time
its very conveniend
I CAN remember the first time to take it off it took some thinking
I use pliers (carefull) and keep these at a weird angle to unclick
would be hard to do without pliers / it's just a click away, but would
be awkward to do with your fingers only
mt
holland
On 24 May 2006 17:56:13 -0700, "Sammy Shuford" <star...@sc.rr.com>
wrote:
>Is this link removable? (To allow chain removal) or permanent once set
>during installation
carl...@comcast.net
<bicycle...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/a9d35e867eda2c87?dmode=source
Ozark Bicycle
Dear Carl,
I get the distinct impression that you now know were wrong about KMC
Missing Links being "advertised as being removable" and will do
anything to avoid admitting your error.
Prove me wrong. (But I don't think you can.)
Cheers,
Oz
"Carl Fogel /wrong/? I'm shocked! Shocked!"
carl...@comcast.net
<bicycle...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/28e4ab0d38bf6abf?dmode=source
Ozark Bicycle
Dear Carl,
I see you have nothing to say regarding KMC Missing Links.
I'll take this as your admission the you shot your cyber-mouth off
without knowing your ass from your elbow.
Just a typical Carl Fogel, eh?
Cheers,
Oz
John Forrest Tomlinson
<bicycle...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
Reminds me of my distinct impression of your making up the story about
someone bragging about buying a helmet for $189.
I didn't even ask you to prove me wrong, just to state that you heard
such a thing. Still no answer....
JT
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Paul Hobson
Wow. Sure am glad y'all proved those points. Out into the real world I
go with my new outlook on life!
\\paul
gary jacobson
"Antti Salonen" <antti....@helsinki.if.invalid> wrote in message
news:e54thd$l2c$1...@oravannahka.helsinki.fi...
> I can spoil this by revealing that I have removed the Missing Link on my
> KMC X-10 dozens of times. No problems. I can't see how there even
> could be a problem, as the link is pretty much identical to the SRAM
> PowerLink. It doesn't know how many times it has been removed and
> reattached.
>
> -as
Good to learn that the Missing Link *is* reusable. The instructions in the
10 speed KMC chain I just put on says that it is not reusable. But after I
installed the chain I couldn't figure out why it is not reuseable, as it so
much resembles SRAM and other links.
Is there any *trick* to resuing the Missing Link?
Gary Jacobson
Rosendale, NY
Kenny
gary jacobson wrote:
> Good to learn that the Missing Link *is* reusable. The instructions in the
> 10 speed KMC chain I just put on says that it is not reusable. But after I
> installed the chain I couldn't figure out why it is not reuseable, as it so
> much resembles SRAM and other links.
>
> Is there any *trick* to resuing the Missing Link?
>
> Gary Jacobson
> Rosendale, NY
On the Missing Links that I've used they all had a small notch in the
slot where you pull the chain tight to "snap" the chain together. I
couldn't detach the chain at the MIssing Link by using my hands only
because of the notch. I did detach it though by using a pair of needle
nose pliers, but that was a pain. I would imagine if someone had the
right tool you could grind that notch away and the link would be
reusable.
carl...@comcast.net
<bicycle...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/343025bd4efbfaa1?dmode=source
Ozark Bicycle
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >You clearly said: "It is advertised as removable". Now, prove that
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >point or withdraw.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/0df683c12a95a4ab/d4283d388ca90bb8#d4283d388ca90bb8
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Which goes to prove your sleazy ways, but has nothing whatever to do
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >with the fiction you posted: that the KMC Missing Link is "advertised
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >as removable".
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Prove your point or withdraw.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >Dear Carl,
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >I know you are earnest and want to provide proof the the KMC Missing
> >> >> >> >> >> >Link is "advertised as removable". But, this link seems to fail to do
> >> >> >> >> >> >so. Please advise.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >Cheers!
> >> >> >> >> >> >OZ
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >Prove the relevance, please!
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/d6504c76c671378?dmode=source
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >This was posted after your "advertised as removable" claim, Twit.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >I knew you were a bit of a pompous ass, but, until this exchange, I had
> >> >> >> >> >no idea of the dimensions.Sad.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Dear Carl,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, try as I might, I can't find
> >> >> >> >anything that relates to KMC Missing Links. Now, I know you would never
> >> >> >> >post an off topic link, so please point me to the relevant post.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Cheers,
> >> >> >> >Oz
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Dear Carl,
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Nothing about KMC Missing Links there either.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Are you admitting that, while you had no evidence that KMC Missing
> >> >> >Links were "advertised as removable", you have a very hard time
> >> >> >admitting you were just wrong when you said they were "advertised as
> >> >> >removable"?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Sad.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Cheers,
> >> >> >Oz
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Dear Carl,
> >> >
> >> >I get the distinct impression that you now know were wrong about KMC
> >> >Missing Links being "advertised as being removable" and will do
> >> >anything to avoid admitting your error.
> >> >
> >> >Prove me wrong. (But I don't think you can.)
> >> >
> >> >Cheers,
> >> >Oz
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Carl Fogel /wrong/? I'm shocked! Shocked!"
> >>
> >
> >
> >Dear Carl,
> >
> >
> >I see you have nothing to say regarding KMC Missing Links.
> >
> >I'll take this as your admission the you shot your cyber-mouth off
> >without knowing your ass from your elbow.
> >
> >Just a typical Carl Fogel, eh?
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Oz
>
Still nothing regarding KMC Missing Links, eh?
Do you know how pathetic you seem?
Cheers,
Oz
jobst....@stanfordalumni.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Sammy,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Click on "missing link"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See: installation instructions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Care to share, Fogel?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Cheers"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/ef409dc1826af36?dmode=source
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Carl,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OZ
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/69e71f536fde014?dmode=source
>>>>>>>>>>> Prove the relevance, please!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/d6504c76c671378?dmode=source
>>>>>>>>> Dear Carl,
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Oz
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.misc/msg/7dd1a48c69a7b08?dmode=source
>>>>>>> Dear Carl,
>>>>>>> Sad.
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Oz
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/a9d5e867eda2c87?dmode=source
>>>>> Dear Carl,
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Oz
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/28e4ab0d8bf6abf?dmode=source
>>> Dear Carl,
>>> Cheers,
>>> Oz
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/Dear Carl,
> Cheers,
> Oz
That's and interesting pattern of citations if nothing else... and it
is nothing else.
Jobst Brandt
Matt O'Toole
> Is this link removable? (To allow chain removal) or permanent once set
> during installation
Nope, it's just like the SRAM/Craig ones. I use them with Shimano chains,
which are often on sale (because everybody wants the SRAM ones that come
with a master link).
Matt O.
Matt O'Toole
> On 24 May 2006 17:56:13 -0700, "Sammy Shuford" <star...@sc.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Is this link removable? (To allow chain removal) or permanent once set
>>during installation
>
> Dear Sammy,
>
> It's advertised as removable.
>
> Some people disassemble removable links effortlessly. Others find them
> impossible.
>
> Poor technique, dirt, and excessive wear can sometimes make it easier
> to use a chain tool and another "removable" link.
Or pliers.
Matt O.
Matt O'Toole
> On the KMC Europe site, there are Missing Links listed whose packaging
> is clearly labelled "New" and "Reusable", so it is certainly true that
> KMC makes a reusable Missing Link, but I have not found that product
> line listed as available in the US with that labelling. From the KMC
> site in Taiwan, it appears that the designs of the connector links
> were revised fairly recently (the part numbers seem to have changed
> from what I recall) which may reflect that new tech. Unfortunately,
> it looks like the US distributor is sitting on a pile of the older
> Missing Links with the problematic nubs that frustrate attempts to
> remove the link.
Guys, relax. I've been using them for years, probably with and
without the nubs, and they work fine. If they're stiff, give 'em a shot
of WD40, and use pliers to undo.
Matt O.
carl...@comcast.net
> That's and interesting pattern of citations if nothing else... and it
> is nothing else.
> Jobst Brandt
[snip]
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/0df683c12a95a4ab/d4283d388ca90bb8#d4283d388ca90bb8
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/4c35e526823c9531/25c18d35d0ad754a?q=ozark+men's+room&rnum=1#25c18d35d0ad754a
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/69e71f5336fde014?dmode=source
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/69e71f5336fde014?dmode=source
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/d65204c76c671378?dmode=source
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/4c35e526823c9531/7fa402d5798c2ef6?q=ozark+doll&rnum=2#7fa402d5798c2ef6
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.misc/msg/7dd1a48c569a7b08?dmode=source
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/a9d35e867eda2c87?dmode=source
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/28e4ab0d38bf6abf?dmode=source
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/343025bd4efbfaa1?dmode=source
Dear Jobst,
The stuff above is just something persistent that clings to my shoe.
There's an amazing amount of it, but eventually it will go away.
You may have missed these two links, which address the KMC question:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/ef409dc16826af36?dmode=source
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/d65204c76c671378?dmode=source
It's hard to see those two links when that other stuff keeps covering
them.
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
Greg Estep
>
> Still nothing regarding KMC Missing Links, eh?
>
> Do you know how pathetic you seem?
>
Looked in a mirror lately?
--
Greg Estep
carl...@comcast.net
<bicycle...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/bf6b2099dac5a961?dmode=source
Werehatrack
I think the published non-reusability statement in the US market may
be an artifact of one or both of two things.
First, the older design of KMC Missing Links was clearly built to
resist removal. This design misfeature was easily defeated, but that
wasn't an officially acknowledged fact.
Second, I suspect (but have no hard evidence to back up my suspicion)
that KMC's US reps either want to prop up the sales of their
inexpensive link, or they have advised against re-use for liability
reduction reasons, possibly related to the fact that the early design
made it harder to remove the link without bending the sideplates.
That's just my observations and opinions.
Ozark Bicycle
carlfo...@comcast.net wrote:
> [snip]
>
> > That's and interesting pattern of citations if nothing else... and it
> > is nothing else.
>
> > Jobst Brandt
>
> [snip]
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/0df683c12a95a4ab/d4283d388ca90bb8#d4283d388ca90bb8
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/4c35e526823c9531/25c18d35d0ad754a?q=ozark+men's+room&rnum=1#25c18d35d0ad754a
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/69e71f5336fde014?dmode=source
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/69e71f5336fde014?dmode=source
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/d65204c76c671378?dmode=source
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/4c35e526823c9531/7fa402d5798c2ef6?q=ozark+doll&rnum=2#7fa402d5798c2ef6
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.misc/msg/7dd1a48c569a7b08?dmode=source
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/a9d35e867eda2c87?dmode=source
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/28e4ab0d38bf6abf?dmode=source
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/343025bd4efbfaa1?dmode=source
>
> Dear Jobst,
>
> The stuff above is just something persistent that clings to my shoe.
> There's an amazing amount of it, but eventually it will go away.
>
> You may have missed these two links, which address the KMC question:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/ef409dc16826af36?dmode=source
>
Dear Carl,
The phrase you used was "advertised as reusable". Did KMC hire Yellow
Jersey Advertising to do ads on Usenet?
Please advise.
Cheers,
Oz
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/d65204c76c671378?dmode=source
>
Dear Carl,
This post was made *after* you posted that KMC Missing Links were
"advertised as reusable". If you had this knowledge in hand when making
your original post, it would have been the first thing you pulled out
of you pedantic, passive aggressive holster after I challenged your
assertion. You didn't, as the Google record reflects. You know it, I
know it. You are fooling no one.
Cheers,
Oz
> It's hard to see those two links when that other stuff keeps covering
> them.
>
Dear Carl,
Who's covering up?
Cheers,
Oz
Ozark Bicycle
Dear Carl,
The subject was KMC Missing Links.
I know you'd like to obscure that fact, but it isn't going to happen.
Cheers,
Oz
Frank Drackman
"Ozark Bicycle" <bicycle...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote in message >
>
> The subject was KMC Missing Links.
>
> I know you'd like to obscure that fact, but it isn't going to happen.
>
> Cheers,
> Oz
>
I think that you need to take a step back and review your behavior. I don't
know you or Carl, and have no idea what started this, but you seem
completely out of control. What are you trying to prove, and even if you
prove it will it be worth it? I can't imagine that it could be.
John Forrest Tomlinson
carl...@comcast.net
<Frank...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>"Ozark Bicycle" <bicycle...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote in message >
>Dear Carl,
>>
>> The subject was KMC Missing Links.
>>
>> I know you'd like to obscure that fact, but it isn't going to happen.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Oz
>>
>
>I think that you need to take a step back and review your behavior. I don't
>know you or Carl, and have no idea what started this, but you seem
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ a)
>completely out of control. What are you trying to prove, and even if you
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ b)
>prove it will it be worth it? I can't imagine that it could be.
Dear Frank,
a) (long)
b)
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/75c6afbbcc010448?dmode=source
These address b):
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/ef409dc16826af36?dmode=source
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/d65204c76c671378?dmode=source
The rest of the links are just something that I keep scraping off my
shoe in this thread, which keeps it out of other threads.
Eventually, it will go away. I need to scrape another piece off
tomorrow.
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
Barnard Frederick
> Dear Carl,
>
> The subject was KMC Missing Links.
>
> I know you'd like to obscure that fact, but it isn't going to happen.
>
> Cheers,
> Oz
Oz, do you know of anyone who is impressed with your bullying? Neither
do I. You may be technically correct, but don't get a big head. Oh
well, too late. In any case, Carl should have admitted that he spoke
too soon or whatever, but your pit bull style ass biting makes you look
ten times worse. Congratulations, I'm sure your mother is very proud of
you.
carl...@comcast.net
<loco...@spamcast.net> wrote:
[snip]
>In any case, Carl should have admitted that he spoke
>too soon or whatever . . .
[snip]
Dear Barnard,
Actually, Werehatrack confirmed what I said:
"On the KMC Europe site, there are Missing Links listed whose
packaging is clearly labelled "New" and "Reusable . . ."
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/d65204c76c671378?dmode=source
It's easy to miss this, even though I've pointed it out repeatedly.
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
carl...@comcast.net
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/4c35e526823c9531/25c18d35d0ad754a?q=ozark+men's+room&rnum=1#25c18d35d0ad754a
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/69e71f5336fde014?dmode=source
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.misc/msg/7dd1a48c569a7b08?dmode=source
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/a9d35e867eda2c87?dmode=source
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/bf6b2099dac5a961?dmode=source
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/28e4ab0d38bf6abf?dmode=source
carl...@comcast.net
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/4c...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/69e71f5336fde014...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/4c...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.misc/msg/7dd1a48c569a7b08...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/a9d35e867eda2c87...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/343025bd4efbfaa1...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/bf6b2099dac5a961...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/28e4ab0d38bf6abf...
carl...@comcast.net
carl...@comcast.net
depending on whether Google Groups or Free Agent was used. These should
work. The last in the series is probably all that anyone needs to look
at.
carl...@comcast.net
John Forrest Tomlinson
>http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.misc/msg/7dd1a48c569a7b08?dmode=source
Thanks for the memories.
Barnard Frederick
> Emails have pointed out
You know, some of us are hoping somebody will take the high road and
just let this die. What is this, the irresistible force meets the
immovable object? I really couldn't care less about the KMC Missing
Link. I use Sram myself.
Eric
Is there medication involved here? I'm reminded of an exgirlfriend who would call at 3am and not
leave a message. She'd just keep calling back until I picked up the phone.
Sorni
You used to date Carl's sister?
<eg>
carl...@comcast.net
Dear Eric,
No medication, at least not for me--just emails asking me why some
links didn't work.
The originals gradually failed in some browsers as the >>>>> grew and
grew (or someone cut into them while snipping).
The ones above worked just now out of Forte Free Agent and Google
Groups.
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
Werehatrack
>I'm reminded of an exgirlfriend who would call at 3am and not
>leave a message. She'd just keep calling back until I picked up the phone.
I wish I had days like those to remember.