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Davey Crockett

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Oct 13, 2011, 12:04:57 AM10/13/11
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I just heard that, after a long illness, Dennis Ritchie (dmr) died at
home this last weekend.
--
Davey Crockett
Flying the Flag of the English
The Flag of Hengest and Horsa
http://usera.imagecave.com/daveycrockett/englishdragon.jpg

Fred Flintstein

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Oct 13, 2011, 9:11:52 AM10/13/11
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On 10/12/2011 11:04 PM, Davey Crockett wrote:
> I just heard that, after a long illness, Dennis Ritchie (dmr) died at
> home this last weekend.

Formerly of team Bell Labs.

F

Davey Crockett

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Oct 13, 2011, 12:19:13 PM10/13/11
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Fred Flintstein a �crit profondement:

It was very sad to hear. I trust everyone here knows who Dennis Ritchie
was,

Just in case there is someone who doesn't know:

- Creator of the C programming language.
- Co-creator of the Unix operating system
- Co-author of "The C Programming Language" (ComputerReich's
greatest textbook)

Also sad to see, while Steve Jobs' death got front page treatment, the
mainstream press seems to have ignored the death of a man who arguably
had an exponentially greater impact on the computer industry than Mr. Jobs.

atriage

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Oct 13, 2011, 1:20:08 PM10/13/11
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On 13/10/2011 17:19, Davey Crockett wrote:
> Fred Flintstein a �crit profondement:
>
> | On 10/12/2011 11:04 PM, Davey Crockett wrote:
> |> I just heard that, after a long illness, Dennis Ritchie (dmr) died at
> |> home this last weekend.
>>
> | Formerly of team Bell Labs.
>
> It was very sad to hear. I trust everyone here knows who Dennis Ritchie
> was,
>
> Just in case there is someone who doesn't know:
>
> - Creator of the C programming language.
> - Co-creator of the Unix operating system
> - Co-author of "The C Programming Language" (ComputerReich's
> greatest textbook)
>

I fucking hate 'C'. Real men program in Pascal and assembler.
--


dave a

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Oct 13, 2011, 5:37:05 PM10/13/11
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A good programmer can write FORTRAN in any language!

ilan

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Oct 13, 2011, 6:32:37 PM10/13/11
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On Oct 13, 6:19 pm, Davey Crockett <r...@azurservers.com> wrote:
> Fred Flintstein a écrit profondement:

A friend of mine once told me that you get what you want. If he's a
standard nerd, Ritchie wanted the respect of his peers and a source of
income to support his hacking and he certainly got those. Steve Jobs
also got what he wanted, he got more talented people to do his bidding
and he got the respect of people who don't know any better.

-ilan

Davey Crockett

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Oct 13, 2011, 10:12:59 PM10/13/11
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dave a a �crit profondement:

Here's some of Davey's COBOL :)

A quick port to run on a windoze box

/******************************************************************************/
/******************************************************************************/
/** **/
/******************** **/
/** gl_acctadd.cpp * **/
/******************** **/
/** **/
/** Copyright (c) Davey Crockett 1982-2011 **/
/** **/
/** Licensed under GNU General Public License **/
/** **/
/** This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify **/
/** it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by **/
/** the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or **/
/** (at your option) any later version. **/
/** **/
/** This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, **/
/** but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of **/
/** MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the **/
/** GNU General Public License for more details. **/
/** **/
/** **/
/** Please refer to the file 'Copying.doc' which was included **/
/** in the distribution package. **/
/** **/
/** Please read 'Copying.doc' as it sets out your Rights and **/
/** Responsibilities. **/
/** **/
/** If the file 'Copying.doc' was not provided by the distributor **/
/** of the CA-General Ledger programme, please contact: **/
/** Free Software Foundation, Inc. **/
/** 51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA 02110-1301 USA **/
/** **/
/******************************************************************************/
/******************************************************************************/

/* Adds an Account to a Company DataBase

It is i_CallingFunction 10 when passed to
other functions */

//////////////////////
//////// Include Files
//////////////////////
#include <windows.h>
#include "gl_main.h"
#include <mysql.h>

//////////////////////
///////////Definitions
//////////////////////
#define QCONT strcat ( szSQL_query, "','") // CONTinue constructing Query String
#define QEND strcat ( szSQL_query, "')") // END constructing Query String
#define QUERY mysql_query ( g_stMysql, szSQL_query ) // Send Query to Server
#define QFREE mysql_free_result( res ) // Free Query results
#define ENDD EndDialog ( hwnd, IDOK ) // END Dialog
#define QSTORE res = mysql_store_result ( g_stMysql ) // STORE Query results
#define QFETCH row = mysql_fetch_row ( res ) // FETCH a row

/////////////////////
// External Functions
/////////////////////
extern void glMessage ( int i_Condition, int i_CallingFunction, int i_ItemNo ); // (in file gl_message.cpp)
extern int glAcctTestNo ( char* sz_AccountNo, int i_CallingFunction ); // (in file gl_AcctTestNo.cpp)

//////////////////////
/// External Variables
//////////////////////
extern char g_szCurrentCorpID [ 11 ]; // Variable to hold currently selected Company ID
extern char g_szNextTrx [ 7 ]; // Variable for Next Trx No. of currently selected Company
extern MYSQL * g_stMysql; // The MySQL Structure for CA-GL

//////////////////////
/////////// Prototypes
//////////////////////
void glAcctAdd ( HWND );
BOOL CALLBACK ACCT_ADD_DlgProc ( HWND hwnd, UINT Message, WPARAM wParam, LPARAM lParam );
BOOL CALLBACK ACCT_ADDOPTB_DlgProc ( HWND hwnd, UINT Message, WPARAM wParam, LPARAM lParam );


//////////////////////////////////////
/////////// glAcctAdd Implementation
//////////////////////////////////////
void glAcctAdd ( HWND hwnd )
{
//////////////////////
////// Local Variables
//////////////////////
int iReturnValue = 0 ; // Variable to hold return values

// Test for an Open Company (FAIL NOT OPEN)
if ( strlen ( g_szCurrentCorpID ) == 0 )
{
glMessage(9901,10,0);
return;
}


// Open appropriate Dialog Box based on 'Init' status
if ( strcmp ( "0", g_szNextTrx ) == 0 )
{ // permit opening TB amounts if Company not initialized
iReturnValue = DialogBox ( GetModuleHandle ( NULL ),
MAKEINTRESOURCE ( IDD_ACCT_ADDOPTB_DLG), hwnd, ACCT_ADDOPTB_DlgProc );
if ( iReturnValue == -1 )
glMessage(11004,10,0); // IDD_ACCT_ADDOPTB_DLG Dialog failed
}
else
{ // permit only Account Name and Number if Company initialized
iReturnValue = DialogBox ( GetModuleHandle ( NULL ),
MAKEINTRESOURCE ( IDD_ACCT_ADD_DLG ), hwnd, ACCT_ADD_DlgProc );
if ( iReturnValue == -1 )
glMessage(11005,10,0); // IDD_ACCT_ADD_DLG Dialog failed
}

return;
}

/////////////////////////////////////
/////////// CALLBACK FOR ACCT_ADDOPTB
/////////////////////////////////////
BOOL CALLBACK ACCT_ADDOPTB_DlgProc ( HWND hwnd, UINT Message, WPARAM wParam, LPARAM lParam )
{
//////////////////////
////// Local Variables
//////////////////////
MYSQL_RES * res;
MYSQL_ROW row;
char szSQL_query [ 400 ]; // Variable to hold MySQL Query
char szCurrentDate [ 12 ]; // Variable to hold Current Date
char szAccount_no [ 8 ];
char szAccount_name [ 21 ];
char szCurrent_trx [ 18 ];

// Set Current Date
strcpy( szSQL_query, "SELECT CURRENT_DATE" );
if ( ! QUERY )
{
QSTORE;
QFETCH; // There is only one Row returned for this Query
strcpy ( szCurrentDate, row [ 0 ] );
}
QFREE;

switch ( Message )
{
case WM_INITDIALOG:
SendMessage ( hwnd, WM_SETICON, ICON_SMALL, ( LPARAM ) LoadIcon ( GetModuleHandle ( NULL ), MAKEINTRESOURCE (IDI_CA_ICON ) ) );
SendMessage ( hwnd, WM_SETICON, ICON_BIG, ( LPARAM ) LoadIcon ( GetModuleHandle ( NULL ), MAKEINTRESOURCE ( IDI_CA_ICON ) ) );
SetDlgItemText ( hwnd, IDC_ACCTADDOPTB_ACCTNO_DAT, "" );
SetDlgItemText ( hwnd, IDC_ACCTADDOPTB_ACCTNAME_DAT, "" );
SetDlgItemText ( hwnd, IDC_ACCTADDOPTB_AMOUNT_DAT, "0.00" );
mysql_select_db ( g_stMysql, g_szCurrentCorpID );
return TRUE;

case WM_COMMAND:
switch ( LOWORD ( wParam ) )
{
case IDOK: // read out data and append to 'accts'
GetDlgItemText ( hwnd, IDC_ACCTADDOPTB_ACCTNO_DAT, szAccount_no, 8 );
GetDlgItemText ( hwnd, IDC_ACCTADDOPTB_ACCTNAME_DAT, szAccount_name, 21 );
GetDlgItemText ( hwnd, IDC_ACCTADDOPTB_AMOUNT_DAT, szCurrent_trx, 18 );
// ADD ACCOUNTS: Test validity of Account Number
if ( glAcctTestNo ( szAccount_no, 10 ) == 0 )
{
SetFocus ( GetDlgItem ( hwnd, IDC_ACCTADDOPTB_ACCTNO_DAT ) );
break;
}
// ADD ACCOUNTS: account without name entered
if ( strlen ( szAccount_name ) == 0 )
{
glMessage(9902,10,0);
SetFocus ( GetDlgItem ( hwnd, IDC_ACCTADDOPTB_ACCTNAME_DAT ) );
break;
}
// Read Capital Account values into 'accts' table (accounts)
strcpy ( szSQL_query, "INSERT INTO accts VALUES ('" );
strcat ( szSQL_query, szAccount_no ); QCONT; // number
strcat ( szSQL_query, szAccount_name ); QCONT; // name
strcat ( szSQL_query, "0.00" ); QCONT; // balfwd
strcat ( szSQL_query, szCurrent_trx ); QCONT; // currtrx
strcat ( szSQL_query, "Active" ); QCONT; // status
strcat ( szSQL_query, szCurrentDate ); QCONT; // activated
strcat ( szSQL_query, "0000-00-00" ); QEND; // deactivated
if ( QUERY )
if ( strncmp ( mysql_error ( g_stMysql ), "Duplicate", 9 ) == 0 )
{
glMessage(9903,10,0);
SetFocus ( GetDlgItem ( hwnd, IDC_ACCTADDOPTB_ACCTNO_DAT ) );
}
else
{
MessageBox ( NULL, mysql_error ( g_stMysql ), "Add Accounts - Unexpected Error", MB_OK | MB_ICONINFORMATION );
ENDD;
}
else
{
SetDlgItemText ( hwnd, IDC_ACCTADDOPTB_ACCTNO_DAT, "" );
SetDlgItemText ( hwnd, IDC_ACCTADDOPTB_ACCTNAME_DAT, "" );
SetDlgItemText ( hwnd, IDC_ACCTADDOPTB_AMOUNT_DAT, "" );
SetFocus ( GetDlgItem ( hwnd, IDC_ACCTADDOPTB_ACCTNO_DAT ) );
}
break;

case IDCANCEL:
ENDD;
break;

}
break;
default:
return FALSE;
}
return TRUE;
}

/////////////////////////////////
/////////// CALLBACK FOR ACCT_ADD
/////////////////////////////////
BOOL CALLBACK ACCT_ADD_DlgProc ( HWND hwnd, UINT Message, WPARAM wParam, LPARAM lParam )
{
//////////////////////
////// Local Variables
//////////////////////
MYSQL_RES * res;
MYSQL_ROW row;
char szSQL_query [ 400 ]; // Variable to hold MySQL Query
char szCurrentDate [ 12 ]; // Variable to hold Current Date
char szAccount_no [ 8 ];
char szAccount_name [ 21 ];

// Set Current Date
strcpy( szSQL_query, "SELECT CURRENT_DATE" );
if ( ! mysql_real_query(g_stMysql, szSQL_query, 19 ) )
{
QSTORE;
QFETCH; // There is only one Row returned for this Query
strcpy( szCurrentDate, row [ 0 ] );
}
QFREE;

switch ( Message )
{
case WM_INITDIALOG:
SendMessage ( hwnd, WM_SETICON, ICON_SMALL, ( LPARAM ) LoadIcon ( GetModuleHandle ( NULL ), MAKEINTRESOURCE ( IDI_CA_ICON ) ) );
SendMessage ( hwnd, WM_SETICON, ICON_BIG, ( LPARAM ) LoadIcon ( GetModuleHandle ( NULL ), MAKEINTRESOURCE ( IDI_CA_ICON ) ) );
SetDlgItemText ( hwnd, IDC_ACCTADD_ACCTNO_DAT, "" );
SetDlgItemText ( hwnd, IDC_ACCTADD_ACCTNAME_DAT, "" );
mysql_select_db ( g_stMysql, g_szCurrentCorpID );
return TRUE;

case WM_COMMAND:
switch ( LOWORD ( wParam ) )
{
case IDOK: // read out data and append to 'accts'
GetDlgItemText ( hwnd, IDC_ACCTADD_ACCTNO_DAT, szAccount_no, 8 );
GetDlgItemText ( hwnd, IDC_ACCTADD_ACCTNAME_DAT, szAccount_name, 21 );
// ADD ACCOUNTS: Test validity of Account Number
if ( glAcctTestNo ( szAccount_no, 10 ) == 0 )
{
SetFocus ( GetDlgItem ( hwnd, IDC_ACCTADDOPTB_ACCTNO_DAT ) );
break;
}
// ADD ACCOUNTS: account without name entered
if ( strlen ( szAccount_name ) == 0 )
{
glMessage(9902,10,0); SetFocus ( GetDlgItem ( hwnd, IDC_ACCTADDOPTB_ACCTNAME_DAT ) );
break;
}
// Read Acount values into 'accts' table (accounts)
strcpy ( szSQL_query, "INSERT INTO accts VALUES ('" );
strcat ( szSQL_query, szAccount_no ); QCONT; // number
strcat ( szSQL_query, szAccount_name ); QCONT; // name
strcat ( szSQL_query, "0.00" ); QCONT; // balfwd
strcat ( szSQL_query, "0.00" ); QCONT; // currtrx
strcat ( szSQL_query, "Active" ); QCONT; // status
strcat ( szSQL_query, szCurrentDate ); QCONT; // activated
strcat ( szSQL_query, "0000-00-00" ); QEND; // deactivated
if ( QUERY )
if ( strncmp ( mysql_error ( g_stMysql ), "Duplicate", 9 ) == 0 )
{
glMessage(9903,10,0);
SetFocus ( GetDlgItem ( hwnd, IDC_ACCTADD_ACCTNO_DAT ) );
}
else
{
MessageBox ( NULL, mysql_error ( g_stMysql ), "Add Accounts - Unexpected Error", MB_OK | MB_ICONINFORMATION );
ENDD;
}
else
{
SetDlgItemText ( hwnd, IDC_ACCTADD_ACCTNO_DAT, "" );
SetDlgItemText ( hwnd, IDC_ACCTADD_ACCTNAME_DAT, "" );
SetFocus ( GetDlgItem ( hwnd, IDC_ACCTADD_ACCTNO_DAT ) );
}
break;

case IDCANCEL:
ENDD;
break;

}
break;
default:
return FALSE;
}
return TRUE;

dave a

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Oct 13, 2011, 10:24:30 PM10/13/11
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On 10/13/2011 7:12 PM, Davey Crockett wrote:
> dave a a �crit profondement:
>
> | On 10/13/2011 10:20 AM, atriage wrote:
> |> On 13/10/2011 17:19, Davey Crockett wrote:
> |>> Fred Flintstein a �crit profondement:
> |>>
> |>> | On 10/12/2011 11:04 PM, Davey Crockett wrote:
> |>> |> I just heard that, after a long illness, Dennis Ritchie (dmr) died at
> |>> |> home this last weekend.
> |>>>
> |>> | Formerly of team Bell Labs.
> |>>
> |>> It was very sad to hear. I trust everyone here knows who Dennis Ritchie
> |>> was,
> |>>
> |>> Just in case there is someone who doesn't know:
> |>>
> |>> - Creator of the C programming language.
> |>> - Co-creator of the Unix operating system
> |>> - Co-author of "The C Programming Language" (ComputerReich's
> |>> greatest textbook)
> |>>
> |>
> |> I fucking hate 'C'. Real men program in Pascal and assembler.
>>
> | A good programmer can write FORTRAN in any language!
>
> Here's some of Davey's COBOL :)
>
> A quick port to run on a windoze box
>

strong typing is for weak minds...

Jim Feeley

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Oct 13, 2011, 11:28:20 PM10/13/11
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> http://usera.imagecave.com/daveycrockett/englishdragon.jpg


Ritchie (and a few others) grew the apples that Jobs polished.

Jim
--
Jim
Jim Feeley
POV Media

Frederick the Great

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Oct 14, 2011, 4:59:15 AM10/14/11
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In article <827196CA-64C9-48C1-979C-BF08C32DE150%jfe...@gmail.com>,
Jim Feeley <jfe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Davey Crockett <r...@azurservers.com> wrote:
>
> > Fred Flintstein a écrit profondement: 


> >  
> > | On 10/12/2011 11:04 PM, Davey Crockett wrote: 
> > | > I just heard that, after a long illness, Dennis Ritchie (dmr) died at 
> > | > home this last weekend. 
> >> 
> > | Formerly of team Bell Labs. 
> >  
> > It was very sad to hear. I trust everyone here knows who Dennis Ritchie 
> > was, 
> >  
> > Just in case there is someone who doesn't know: 
> >  
> > - Creator of the C programming language. 
> > - Co-creator of the Unix operating system 
> > - Co-author of "The C Programming Language" (ComputerReich's 
> > greatest textbook) 
> >  
> > Also sad to see, while Steve Jobs' death got front page treatment, the 
> > mainstream press seems to have ignored the death of a man who arguably 
> > had an exponentially greater impact on the computer industry than Mr. Jobs. 
>

> Ritchie (and a few others) grew the apples that Jobs polished.

de mortuis nil nisi bonum dicendum est
Of the dead, speak nothing unless good

--
Old Fritz

Simply Fred

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Oct 14, 2011, 5:08:42 AM10/14/11
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dave a wrote:
> strong typing is for weak minds...

You must be searching for clojure.

Davey Crockett

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Oct 14, 2011, 10:32:50 AM10/14/11
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Frederick the Great a �crit profondement:

| > Davey Crockett <r...@azurservers.com> wrote:
| >
| > > Fred�Flintstein�a��crit�profondement:�


| > > �
| > > |�On�10/12/2011�11:04�PM,�Davey�Crockett�wrote:�
| > > |�>�I�just�heard�that,�after�a�long�illness,�Dennis�Ritchie�(dmr)�died�at�
| > > |�>�home�this�last�weekend.�
| > >>�
| > > |�Formerly�of�team�Bell�Labs.�
| > > �
| > > It�was�very�sad�to�hear.�I�trust�everyone�here�knows�who�Dennis�Ritchie�
| > > was,�
| > > �
| > > Just�in�case�there�is�someone�who�doesn't�know:�
| > > �
| > > -�Creator�of�the�C�programming�language.�
| > > -�Co-creator�of�the�Unix�operating�system�
| > > -�Co-author�of�"The�C�Programming�Language"�(ComputerReich's�
| > > greatest�textbook)�
| > > �
| > > Also�sad�to�see,�while�Steve�Jobs'�death�got�front�page�treatment,�the�
| > > mainstream�press�seems�to�have�ignored�the�death�of�a�man�who�arguably�
| > > had�an�exponentially�greater�impact�on�the�computer�industry�than�Mr.�Jobs.�
| >
| > Ritchie (and a few others) grew the apples that Jobs polished.
>
| de mortuis nil nisi bonum dicendum est
| Of the dead, speak nothing unless good

Ille dolet vere, qui sine teste dolet

Simply Fred

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Oct 14, 2011, 11:14:25 AM10/14/11
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Frederick the Great a �crit profondement:
> | de mortuis nil nisi bonum dicendum est
> | Of the dead, speak nothing unless good

Davey Crockett wrote:
> Ille dolet vere, qui sine teste dolet

Englishway easeplay.

--D-y

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On Oct 14, 10:14 am, Simply Fred <n...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> Frederick the Great a écrit profondement:

>
> > | de mortuis nil nisi bonum dicendum est
> > | Of the dead, speak nothing unless good
> Davey Crockett wrote:
> > Ille dolet vere, qui sine teste dolet
>
> Englishway easeplay.

ooglegay:
"He truly grieves who grieves when none is there". Goes in the
"Praying in Public" basket.

I heard Jobs gave some of The Money to his illegitimate (human)
offspring.

That's the best I can do, and I had to make it up.

"Admire the works, not the man". Even there, ya gotta be picky! Such
is life.

"I'm a Mac".
--D-y

atriage

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On 13/10/2011 23:32, ilan wrote:
> On Oct 13, 6:19 pm, Davey Crockett<r...@azurservers.com> wrote:
>> Fred Flintstein a �crit profondement:

>>
>> | On 10/12/2011 11:04 PM, Davey Crockett wrote:
>> |> I just heard that, after a long illness, Dennis Ritchie (dmr) died at
>> |> home this last weekend.
>>
>> | Formerly of team Bell Labs.
>>
>> It was very sad to hear. I trust everyone here knows who Dennis Ritchie
>> was,
>>
>> Just in case there is someone who doesn't know:
>>
>> - Creator of the C programming language.
>> - Co-creator of the Unix operating system
>> - Co-author of "The C Programming Language" (ComputerReich's
>> greatest textbook)
>>
>> Also sad to see, while Steve Jobs' death got front page treatment, the
>> mainstream press seems to have ignored the death of a man who arguably
>> had an exponentially greater impact on the computer industry than Mr. Jobs.
>>
>> --
>> Davey Crockett
>> Flying the Flag of the English
>> The Flag of Hengest and Horsahttp://usera.imagecave.com/daveycrockett/englishdragon.jpg
>
> A friend of mine once told me that you get what you want.

I want one of these.
http://www.bicycles.net.au/Road-Cycling-News-and-Articles.62.0.html?&cHash=f31304a492&tx_cmarticle_pi1[singleID]=1043
Did your friend say what the likely period between wanting and delivery is and
should I be holding my breath?


--


atriage

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atriage

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Oct 14, 2011, 12:34:08 PM10/14/11
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Seems to be the square bracket that does it.

--


atriage

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Oct 14, 2011, 12:54:42 PM10/14/11
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He said with a pronounced lisp.

--


RicodJour

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Oct 14, 2011, 2:47:39 PM10/14/11
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On Oct 14, 12:03 pm, --D-y <dustoyev...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> I heard Jobs gave some of The Money to his illegitimate (human)
> offspring.

Illegitimate...? Interesting that you hit that particular lob.

What's your take, that it's a surprise that a California Buddhist boy
from the 70's didn't get married before popping one into the oven? Or
that someone whose parents gave him away for adoption wasn't so big on
the whole marriage thing? Maybe that the concept of illegitimate,
that everso useful way of protecting the inheritable lineage, is still
a laudable label in the age of easy and cheap DNA testing? Something
else?

R

Frederick the Great

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Oct 14, 2011, 2:58:53 PM10/14/11
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In article <85r52f7...@azurservers.com>,
Davey Crockett <r...@azurservers.com> wrote:

> Frederick the Great a écrit profondement:
>
> | > Davey Crockett <r...@azurservers.com> wrote:
> | >
> | > > Fred Flintstein a écrit profondement: 


> | > >  
> | > > | On 10/12/2011 11:04 PM, Davey Crockett wrote: 
> | > > | > I just heard that, after a long illness, Dennis Ritchie (dmr) died at 
> | > > | > home this last weekend. 
> | > >> 
> | > > | Formerly of team Bell Labs. 
> | > >  
> | > > It was very sad to hear. I trust everyone here knows who Dennis Ritchie 
> | > > was, 
> | > >  
> | > > Just in case there is someone who doesn't know: 
> | > >  
> | > > - Creator of the C programming language. 
> | > > - Co-creator of the Unix operating system 
> | > > - Co-author of "The C Programming Language" (ComputerReich's 
> | > > greatest textbook) 
> | > >  
> | > > Also sad to see, while Steve Jobs' death got front page treatment, the 
> | > > mainstream press seems to have ignored the death of a man who arguably 
> | > > had an exponentially greater impact on the computer industry than Mr. Jobs. 
> | >
> | > Ritchie (and a few others) grew the apples that Jobs polished.
> >
> | de mortuis nil nisi bonum dicendum est
> | Of the dead, speak nothing unless good
>
> Ille dolet vere, qui sine teste dolet

Yes, I got that the first time.

--
Old Fritz

Fredmaster of Brainerd

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Oct 14, 2011, 3:00:08 PM10/14/11
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On Oct 13, 3:32 pm, ilan <ilan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 13, 6:19 pm, Davey Crockett <r...@azurservers.com> wrote:
>
> > Fred Flintstein a écrit profondement:
>
> > | On 10/12/2011 11:04 PM, Davey Crockett wrote:
> > | > I just heard that, after a long illness, Dennis Ritchie (dmr) died at
> > | > home this last weekend.
>
> > | Formerly of team Bell Labs.
>
> > It was very sad to hear. I trust everyone here knows who Dennis Ritchie
> > was,
>
> > Just in case there is someone who doesn't know:
>
> > - Creator of the C programming language.
> > - Co-creator of the Unix operating system
> > - Co-author of "The C Programming Language" (ComputerReich's
> > greatest textbook)
>
> > Also sad to see, while Steve Jobs' death got front page treatment, the
> > mainstream press seems to have ignored the death of a man who arguably
> > had an exponentially greater impact on the computer industry than Mr. Jobs.
>
> A friend of mine once told me that you get what you want. If he's a
> standard nerd, Ritchie wanted the respect of his peers and a source of
> income to support his hacking and he certainly got those. Steve Jobs
> also got what he wanted, he got more talented people to do his bidding
> and he got the respect of people who don't know any better.

Let's not overreact to the fact that it often takes a newspaper
a couple of days to publish an obit.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/14/technology/dennis-ritchie-programming-trailblazer-dies-at-70.html

Jobs was a well-known public figure and also known to be
very ill, so they had something in print (undoubtedly
prepared beforehand) right away.

Ilan, your insight (that both men got what they wanted)
was fine without adding meaningless potshots at Jobs.
Jobs made consumer products, Ritchie invented the
engines under the hood, it's no surprise Jobs was known
to more people.

Many people, and possibly especially academics,
underestimate the value of good project management
(which is sort of by definition getting other people to do
the work for you).

RIP,
Fredmaster Ben


Simply Fred

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Oct 14, 2011, 4:00:20 PM10/14/11
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dave a wrote:
>>> strong typing is for weak minds...

Simply Fred wrote:
>> You must be searching for clojure.

atriage wrote:
> He said with a pronounced lisp.

Its not about the parenthesis.

atriage

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Oct 14, 2011, 7:11:14 PM10/14/11
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On 14/10/2011 03:12, Davey Crockett wrote:
> dave a a écrit profondement:
>
> | On 10/13/2011 10:20 AM, atriage wrote:
> |> On 13/10/2011 17:19, Davey Crockett wrote:
> |>> Fred Flintstein a écrit profondement:
> |>>
> |>> | On 10/12/2011 11:04 PM, Davey Crockett wrote:
> |>> |> I just heard that, after a long illness, Dennis Ritchie (dmr) died at
> |>> |> home this last weekend.
> |>>>
> |>> | Formerly of team Bell Labs.
> |>>
> |>> It was very sad to hear. I trust everyone here knows who Dennis Ritchie
> |>> was,
> |>>
> |>> Just in case there is someone who doesn't know:
> |>>
> |>> - Creator of the C programming language.
> |>> - Co-creator of the Unix operating system
> |>> - Co-author of "The C Programming Language" (ComputerReich's
> |>> greatest textbook)
> |>>
> |>
> |> I fucking hate 'C'. Real men program in Pascal and assembler.
>>
> | A good programmer can write FORTRAN in any language!
>
> Here's some of Davey's COBOL :)
>
> A quick port to run on a windoze box
>
*****************************************************************/
>
> /* Adds an Account to a Company DataBase
>
Would it add an account to citibank's database in my name with
$100000000000000000 in it?


--


ilan

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Oct 14, 2011, 7:56:35 PM10/14/11
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> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/14/technology/dennis-ritchie-programmi...
>
> Jobs was a well-known public figure and also known to be
> very ill, so they had something in print (undoubtedly
> prepared beforehand) right away.
>
> Ilan, your insight (that both men got what they wanted)
> was fine without adding meaningless potshots at Jobs.
> Jobs made consumer products, Ritchie invented the
> engines under the hood, it's no surprise Jobs was known
> to more people.
>
> Many people, and possibly especially academics,
> underestimate the value of good project management
> (which is sort of by definition getting other people to do
> the work for you).
>
> RIP,
> Fredmaster Ben

OK, but even if my comment sounds gratuitous, I believe that it is
quite fundamental to Jobs' motivation. In particular, he wanted to
"change the world" but by 1985 most of the people he knew and
respected had everything he wanted to bring to the world, so it meant
changing things for people whom he didn't respect for their technical
skills. He did succeed in doing that and they are now accepting him as
the one who brought it to them, exactly how he wanted it to play out.
In that sense, it is is part of his legacy and not necessarily a
criticism just an observation.

-ilan

--D-y

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Oct 14, 2011, 11:27:57 PM10/14/11
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Else.

Cult of personality. Pretty ironic in this case, and I never had to
work for him, either, so it's not "personal". Let's say I know the
general type (not rare in the world).

The "lob" was inspired by reading that he went out on a lying limb to
deny paternity, by claiming he was sterile. IOW, he committed perjury,
by report.
I don't know at what point on his path of accumulation of vast
personal wealth that occurred. "Reality Distortion Field", indeed.

And I did make it up; I read of some kind of "reconciliation" but I
have no idea if that is true or what form it might have taken.
Did he provide for his cast-off-spring? "Billions" should mean enough
left over to provide an aegis against the cold cruel world for an
innocent party.
I was only trying to find something nice to say, I promise!

--D-I'm a Mac-y

Simply Fred

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Oct 15, 2011, 5:02:26 AM10/15/11
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atriage wrote:
> Would it add an account to citibank's database in my name with
> $100000000000000000 in it?

If you want to move money around I gather there's a job as an investment
bank trader vacant at UBS.

Anyway Citibank is a zombie.

<http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-21/wall-street-aristocracy-got-1-2-trillion-in-fed-s-secret-loans.html>
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