Is this VDB's new performance aid?

TritonRider

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Mar 13, 2003, 9:24:43 PM3/13/03

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Yummy stuff!
I wonder if the WADA has developed a test yet?
Bill C

ben

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Mar 14, 2003, 3:06:57 AM3/14/03

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Wasn't it Frigo the leader in Paris-Nice that was proven positive in a
race last year...
So please justify your sarcasm based on press articles.

Louison Bobet

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Mar 14, 2003, 7:37:56 AM3/14/03

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This is what really killed my old friend Coppi. I tried to tell him it was
no good but the Lady In White enjoyed it and he had to go along.

Tim Mullin

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Mar 14, 2003, 9:35:16 AM3/14/03

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> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/2847557.stm
> Yummy stuff!
> I wonder if the WADA has developed a test yet?

Yeah....you piss in a cup, and if you drink it, your test is positive.

Boyd Speerschneider

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Mar 14, 2003, 11:37:33 AM3/14/03

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Not unless it was his dog's urine.

Mark VandenBerghe

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Mar 14, 2003, 12:12:27 PM3/14/03

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I've seen the Robert Maplethorpe (precursor to Graham Watson) photos.

Mark VandenBerghe

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Louison Bobet

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Mar 14, 2003, 2:11:29 PM3/14/03

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But have you seen the Maplethorpe, very private "X Collection?"

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Tom Schulenburg

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Mar 14, 2003, 2:34:25 PM3/14/03

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Did Frigo test positive last year? I thought he was caught with "stuff" in
his hotel room in 2001

-T

Kevinm31

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Mar 14, 2003, 3:22:43 PM3/14/03

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Mark vandenBerge wrote:
>I've seen the Robert Maplethorpe (precursor to Graham Watson) photos.

You're thinking of Andres Serrano's "Piss Christ", not Maplethorpe.
Maplethorpe is famous for homoerotic photos--like the one of Kunich with his
head up his ass.

-Kevin

Mark VandenBerghe

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Mar 14, 2003, 4:16:21 PM3/14/03

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No. Maplethorpe had many photos of people drinking piss. One of which was
apparently Fausto Coppi. I do believe there may also have been Kunich
photos.

Mark VandenBerghe

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Kurgan Gringioni

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Mar 14, 2003, 5:07:25 PM3/14/03

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"Mark VandenBerghe" <ma...@vdbprop.com> wrote in message news:IErca.9$kA2....@nntp1-sf.pbi.net...

> No. Maplethorpe had many photos of people drinking piss. One of which was
> apparently Fausto Coppi. I do believe there may also have been Kunich
> photos.

Kunich's is far too ugly for Mapplethorpe. Mapplethorpe's subjects were paradigms of the human form. He had them engage in strange
acts for shock value while maintaining purity of form. Some of it was disturbing stuff.

So while Kunich wouldn't be a Mapplethorpe subject, it wouldn't be surprising if Kunich whacks off to that sort of thing.

Tim Mullin

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Mar 15, 2003, 11:26:01 AM3/15/03

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"Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni.rem...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> Kunich's is far too ugly for Mapplethorpe. Mapplethorpe's subjects were
paradigms of the human form.

Kunich is much more suited to Joel-Peter Witkin. Come to think of it, does't
this Witkin pic look more than a bit like Tommy Boy?

www.zonezero.com/exposiciones/fotografos/witkin/JPW6.jpeg

www.zonezero.com/exposiciones/fotografos/witkin/jpwdefault.html

Sparhawk

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Mar 15, 2003, 3:14:22 PM3/15/03

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And he would only be able to do that after overdosing on Viagra!

Sparhawk
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Benjamin Weiner

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Mar 15, 2003, 5:32:55 PM3/15/03

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Tim Mullin <tvph...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni.rem...@hotmail.com> wrote

> > Kunich's is far too ugly for Mapplethorpe. Mapplethorpe's subjects were
> > paradigms of the human form.

> Kunich is much more suited to Joel-Peter Witkin. Come to think of it, does't
> this Witkin pic look more than a bit like Tommy Boy?
> www.zonezero.com/exposiciones/fotografos/witkin/JPW6.jpeg
> www.zonezero.com/exposiciones/fotografos/witkin/jpwdefault.html

In TK's dreams. Kunich is the perfect Diane Arbus subject.
In fact, here is Diane Arbus's "Portrait of Tom Kunich as a
Young Man":

http://www.masters-of-photography.com/A/arbus/arbus_hand_grenade_full.html

Howard Kveck

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Mar 16, 2003, 12:40:10 AM3/16/03

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In article <3e73aa17$1...@news.ucsc.edu>, Benjamin Weiner <b...@mambo.ucolick.org> wrote:

>
> In TK's dreams. Kunich is the perfect Diane Arbus subject.
> In fact, here is Diane Arbus's "Portrait of Tom Kunich as a
> Young Man":
>
> http://www.masters-of-photography.com/A/arbus/arbus_hand_grenade_full.html

That's a very funny shot, Benjamin. The fourth one along (Brooklyn family) is pretty good, too,
especially the kids.

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Morgan Fletcher

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Mar 16, 2003, 9:48:11 AM3/16/03

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A visual metaphor for RBR?

http://www.masters-of-photography.com/A/arbus/arbus_untitled7_full.html

The orderlies assaulting the patients is just off camera. I think that
would capture rbr perfectly.

Morgan

Tim Mullin

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Mar 16, 2003, 10:16:59 AM3/16/03

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"Benjamin Weiner" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org> wrote in message
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> In TK's dreams. Kunich is the perfect Diane Arbus subject.
> In fact, here is Diane Arbus's "Portrait of Tom Kunich as a
> Young Man":
>
> http://www.masters-of-photography.com/A/arbus/arbus_hand_grenade_full.html

That's not "Kunich as a Young Man"! For that you must look to the great
Weegee.

www.masters-of-photography.com/images/full/weegee/weegee_sammys.jpg