Called me a poser? I ride 100% LTHR for more than 5 minutes???
Victor Chan
complete a century within 5 hours and would go all out for 40 miles at 100%
to 103% LTHR and sub 100% LTHR for the remaining 40 miles. 1 rest stop.
The first 20 miles would be warm up. I told him I normally trained in criss
cross intervals for over 30 miles in Central Park (5 laps), 1 hour and 25
minutes, and spend over 30 minutes in 100%+ to 106% LTHR. Average about 5+
minutes in 100%+ LTHR on one lap. My LTHR is 177, MHR is 193. Max LTHR
reached is 110%. He didn't believe the data and accused me of getting my
LTHR screwed up and calling me a poser, once I told him about my data. I
called him a lazy ass who rarely rides above his LTHR. He further claimed
that, according to his expertise, NO ONE can ride more than 30 to 40 miles
at their LTHR at all. Is this guy a moron or what? I know he knows shit
about racing because in a race you DO ride above your LTHR for more than 5
minutes in several successions or attacks.
Jason Waddell
just ride your bike dude. Numbers are for posers and Dr Coggan. Just kiddin
Doc.
But you are a dumbass Victor.
jason
Victor Chan
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Victor Chan
Fine with me.
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Steve
Thanks,
Ronde Champ
Bill Lloyd
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Aarron Canino
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Aarron Canino
change your name that you post with for God's sake! Otherwise, you look
like a whole new level of dipshit!
...especially when what you say isn't particularly amusing....
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Henry Chang
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>For those who cares. :-) Is it the way how things run around here????
This newsgroup is rec.bicycles.racing.
100 mile hairy-legged Fred rides are fine, but this group is
interested in licensed racing.
Just be happy you weren't trying to sell something.
Henry
Fred F. Fredly
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The guy was wrong about everything except the part about you being a poser.
Why the fuck are you getting so worked up over what someone else thinks? Why
the fuck are you putting so much thought and effort into a century? Is going
a little bit faster than a bunch of fat, gray-hiared, old men really worth
all the shit you're putting yourself through? Ride your hundred miles and
have fun. Get over yourself....
Aarron Canino
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> I have a bridge to sell though.
Victor Chan
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Volcano
> interested in licensed racing.
>
> Just be happy you weren't trying to sell something.
I agree with Henry. This discussion belongs in alt.bicycles.rides, home
of the Fred century.
Tom Kunich
Victor, you're going to draw a whole lot less fire if you do it first
and talk about it later. Of course, now if you DO ride for 40 miles at
100% threashhold there are going to be a lot of really biting comments
when you tell everyone about.
Keep us posted even if you don't make it because it'll be good for a
chuckle either way.
My take is that there's no way you're going to hold 100% LT for 20
miles let alone 40. Lactate threshhold isn't a firm demarcation point
but is instead a variable one that wonders a little up and down during
your ride. Trying to maintain LT will always put you over a little now
and again so that you started building up lactic acid. It doesn't take
long before it's too painful to continue -- or more likely the pain
doesn't seem to get that intense but for some reason you just seem to
lose interest in the project.
Buzz
You go Girl!
Arth
"Back in the day", there was this guy from the Flying Wheels Bike Club
who put on a race at Fort Baker across the bay from downtown San
Fransisco every spring, they called him coach "Eddie C". He used to
stand on a ladder with a megaphone before the start of the race, and
with slurred speech (I think he was a former boxer or something) he'd
announce that "this race has no cry babies".
otto
> complete a century within 5 hours and would go all out for 40 miles at 100%
wow - if any of that's true, then you must have a massive case of roid
rage.
poser? maybe not. Fred - you bet.
out of curiosity, you ever try any of this out of CP? get over the
bridge, ride out to nyack, get some (comparatively) fresh air.
lauhoe
interested (probably few), here's a link to the line of conversation. And I
think plenty of other people called you a poser, they were just more polite
in their wording.
http://forums.bicycling.com/bic/thread.jsp?forum=5&thread=11882
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> Hey Victor, I'm the one who called you the poser. For anyone who's
> interested (probably few), here's a link to the line of conversation. And I
> think plenty of other people called you a poser, they were just more polite
> in their wording.
> http://forums.bicycling.com/bic/thread.jsp?forum=5&thread=11882
thanks for the link lauhoe. yep. cofirms that victor/r600 is both a
poseur and a fred, like the majority of central park riders, bar the
actual racers.
hey vic/fred/r600: what's the point in riding a century like a race?
if you want to race, then race. join up with crca and do the club
races.
Dick Durbin
> Is going a little bit faster than a bunch of fat, gray-hiared, old men really > worth all the shit you're putting yourself through?
Hey, I resemble that remark! This is the kind of attitude from racers
that made me quit helping out at races. Buncha prima donna Lance
wannabes....
Dick Durbin
Tim Mullin
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> Hey, I resemble that remark! This is the kind of attitude from racers
> that made me quit helping out at races. Buncha prima donna Lance
> wannabes....
Dick, for what it's worth, I have far more respect for the fat, gray-hiared,
old men out enjoying their centuries than for the pathetic wannabe who is
trying to turn that century into a race.
lauhoe
century ride report. I blathers on and on about 90% this, average HR that
and how he switched to the 39 ring and in 300 words manages to say
absolutely nothing.
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Jim Quinn
lactic acid threshold bullshit and just keep it at 21 mph. You should be
able to do that by yourself. If you get in a group then higher speeds are
achievable. Even the moderate speed group should be able to get in within 5
hours.
Now what is hard is doing it in under 4 hours. For that your going to need
to stay in the fast group and not get dropped.
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> Is completing a century in 5 hours supposed to be hard? Forget all the
> lactic acid threshold bullshit and just keep it at 21 mph. You should be
> able to do that by yourself. If you get in a group then higher speeds are
> achievable. Even the moderate speed group should be able to get in within
5
> hours.
>
believed, then he's not. 175 km in 5:50 isn't too bad, but it's a long way
off 160km in 5 hrs.
The best way is certainly to find a group that's going the right speed and
stay with them. I find that my quickest training rides involve and hour or
two @ 40+ km/h with the wielertourists, and the rest at a pretty easy pace.
It works better for me than going at a moderate pace all day, mainly due to
the massive energy saving from working in a bunch, and the elimination of
the need to motivate yourself to ride at 34 km/h for 5 hrs.
> Now what is hard is doing it in under 4 hours. For that your going to
need
> to stay in the fast group and not get dropped.
>
That is trickier and can hurt. I wouldn't recommend doing this by the
numbers. Also, if you can do this you're going to be pretty handy in a race.
Cheers,
Jeff
Dick Durbin
> Dick, for what it's worth, I have far more respect for the fat, gray-hiared,
> old men out enjoying their centuries than for the pathetic wannabe who is
> trying to turn that century into a race.
The Louisville (Kentucky) Bicycle Club is doing a cool thing with
their Old Kentucky Home Tour next month. It's a weekend tour, but for
those who are interested, they can also do it as a time trial. I'm
just hoping to complete a century but folks who are fitter than I am
will have a good oportunity to compete for the laurels. Check it out
at www.okht.org
Dick Durbin