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OnThaBeach

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Aug 3, 2002, 11:57:05 PM8/3/02
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Not only does Lance outclimb those pesky Euros, his book outsells at least one
champion of every freshman Introduction to American Novels 101 course:

From USA Today's current list of best sellers:

48. ``It's Not About the Bike'' by Lance Armstrong, Sally Jenkins (Berkley)
(NF-P)

49. ``The Catcher in the Rye'' by J. D. Salinger (Little, Brown) (F-P)




François de la Rochelle

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Aug 4, 2002, 1:26:28 AM8/4/02
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The Catcher in the Eye, in Europe, is also a worship cult book. I read it so
many time! i know one reporter that, unsucessly, had been trying for years
to interview him

I bought Lance's book last year and I liked it, because Lance has never been
very talkative on TV his book helps us to know more about him

in France Lance's book is nevertheles far behind one of our best selling
book by the left-wing Thierry Meyssan explaining that Mossad and CIA let
muslims free to attack the WTC.

you can read even read it for free:

http://www.effroyable-imposture.net

"OnThaBeach" <ontha...@aol.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
20020803235705...@mb-fx.aol.com...

Henry Chang

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Aug 4, 2002, 5:59:29 AM8/4/02
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On Sun, 4 Aug 2002 07:26:28 +0200, "François de la Rochelle"
<francois.de...@ifrance.com> wrote:

>The Catcher in the Eye, in Europe, is also a worship cult book. I read it so
>many time! i know one reporter that, unsucessly, had been trying for years
>to interview him
>
>I bought Lance's book last year and I liked it, because Lance has never been
>very talkative on TV his book helps us to know more about him
>
>in France Lance's book is nevertheles far behind one of our best selling
>book by the left-wing Thierry Meyssan explaining that Mossad and CIA let
>muslims free to attack the WTC.
>
>you can read even read it for free:
>
>http://www.effroyable-imposture.net

Back in 1939, the French government should have attacked the Eiffel
Tower, blown it to bits, and blamed it on the Germans.

Why?

Perhaps it would have inspired the general populace to offer at least
token resistance to the Germans who were waltzing in to drink French
wine, eat French cheese, and have sex with French women.


Henry
politically correct, as always

Tim Mullin

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Aug 4, 2002, 9:04:41 AM8/4/02
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"OnThaBeach" <ontha...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> 48. ``It's Not About the Bike'' by Lance Armstrong, Sally Jenkins
(Berkley)
> (NF-P)
>
> 49. ``The Catcher in the Rye'' by J. D. Salinger (Little, Brown) (F-P)

So what? Catcher is 51 years old. It's tired. It's overweight. It smokes way
too much. Let's see how Lance's book does when it's up there racing with the
Masters.


Tom Kunich

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Aug 4, 2002, 11:05:39 AM8/4/02
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" Tim Mullin" <tvph...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Not to mention that it is an insane book written by a psychologically
damaged person and forced upon students in American schools by teachers who
understand not a whit of that terrible book.

Kyle Legate

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Aug 4, 2002, 11:21:51 AM8/4/02
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On Sun, 4 Aug 2002, Henry Chang wrote:

> Back in 1939, the French government should have attacked the Eiffel
> Tower, blown it to bits, and blamed it on the Germans.
>
> Why?
>

So that anyone who bothers to look up notices that those are French
fighters blowing up the tower? That would have been an interesting
insurrection.

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Aarron Canino

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Aug 4, 2002, 11:50:28 AM8/4/02
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Here goes the parade of the troll responders!!!!


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Henry Chang

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Aug 4, 2002, 12:43:45 PM8/4/02
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On Sun, 04 Aug 2002 15:05:39 GMT, "Tom Kunich" <tku...@earthlink.net>
wrote:


The Socialist in Tom Kunich rears its ugly head again.

I haven't read that book, but since it's still 49th on the best seller
list after 51 years, I think it's fair to say that the market has
spoken.


Henry
capitalist pig

Ken Papai

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Aug 4, 2002, 2:15:06 PM8/4/02
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"François de la Rochelle" <francois.de...@ifrance.com> wrote in
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> The Catcher in the Eye, in Europe, is also a worship cult book. I read it
so
> many time! i know one reporter that, unsucessly, had been trying for years
> to interview him
>
> I bought Lance's book last year and I liked it, because Lance has never
been
> very talkative on TV his book helps us to know more about him
>
> in France Lance's book is nevertheles far behind one of our best selling
> book by the left-wing Thierry Meyssan explaining that Mossad and CIA let
> muslims free to attack the WTC.

No matter where you go there are extreme kooks....
This newsgroup, France, you name it.

Tom Kunich

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Aug 4, 2002, 2:34:49 PM8/4/02
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"Henry Chang" <lhchang.t...@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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You haven't read the book but yet feel compelled to remark on it. Since the
book is almost universally required reading in Freshman English that alone
would determine its "popularity" which has nothing whatsoever to do with its
value as literature or its commercial value. It is nothing more than mental
vomit and J.D. Salinger knows that and is at least socialized enough to be
embarrassed about his creation enough to never comment on it.

Henry Chang

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Aug 4, 2002, 3:00:09 PM8/4/02
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On Sun, 04 Aug 2002 18:34:49 GMT, "Tom Kunich" <tku...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>"Henry Chang" <lhchang.t...@adelphia.net> wrote in message
>news:3d4d595e....@news1.news.adelphia.net...
>> On Sun, 04 Aug 2002 15:05:39 GMT, "Tom Kunich" <tku...@earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >Not to mention that it is an insane book written by a psychologically
>> >damaged person and forced upon students in American schools by teachers
>who
>> >understand not a whit of that terrible book.
>>
>> The Socialist in Tom Kunich rears its ugly head again.
>>
>> I haven't read that book, but since it's still 49th on the best seller
>> list after 51 years, I think it's fair to say that the market has
>> spoken.
>
>You haven't read the book but yet feel compelled to remark on it. Since the
>book is almost universally required reading in Freshman English that alone
>would determine its "popularity" which has nothing whatsoever to do with its
>value as literature or its commercial value. It is nothing more than mental
>vomit and J.D. Salinger knows that and is at least socialized enough to be
>embarrassed about his creation enough to never comment on it.

I never had to read it and I took Freshman English.

If the teachers choose that book, then I'll say it again: the market

Daniel Connelly

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Aug 4, 2002, 3:46:37 PM8/4/02
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The difference between pro crits in Europe and pro crits in the US,
is at least in Europe they arrange to have the correct guys win.

1. Dominguez, 2. Davidenko, 3, Fraser.

I'm sure this had the 100k-strong NY crowd in a frenzy.

Dan

Ari

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Aug 4, 2002, 3:47:05 PM8/4/02
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"Tom Kunich" <tku...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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It's one of my favorite books, and it's assigned to freshmen because many of
them will be able to identify with the main character (just like I did).


Jeff Jones

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Aug 4, 2002, 3:55:28 PM8/4/02
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Wrong thread Dan :-) Scroll up a bit

Jeff

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Henry Chang

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Aug 4, 2002, 4:05:10 PM8/4/02
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Fuckin' Connelly is always going off-topic.


Henry

On Sun, 4 Aug 2002 21:55:28 +0200, "Jeff Jones" <je...@cyclingnews.com>
wrote:

Carl Sundquist

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Aug 4, 2002, 4:11:24 PM8/4/02
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"Daniel Connelly" <djco...@ieee.org> wrote in message
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Considering the number of Hispanic people and Cubans in particular in NYC,
you might be right.


Ewoud Dronkert

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Aug 4, 2002, 4:15:05 PM8/4/02
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Daniel Connelly wrote:
> The difference between pro crits in Europe and pro crits in the US,
> is at least in Europe they arrange to have the correct guys win.

That was very funny.

Tom Kunich

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"Jeff Jones" <je...@cyclingnews.com> wrote in message
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But you have to admit that it is a lot more interesting than arguing about
"Catcher in the Rye".


Garry Allen

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Aug 5, 2002, 12:01:51 AM8/5/02
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"Tom Kunich" <tku...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<7pb39.12683$nc.9...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>...
I didnt know that "It's not about the Bike" was prescribed reading in US schools.
Garry Allen

Tom Kunich

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Aug 5, 2002, 10:39:34 AM8/5/02
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"Ari" <a...@waldenpond.wet> wrote in message news:<Zwf39.87883$qB5....@news1.central.cox.net>...

>
> It's one of my favorite books, and it's assigned to freshmen because many of
> them will be able to identify with the main character (just like I did).

So you identified with a self-absorbed suicidal asshole?

Tom Paterson

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Aug 5, 2002, 10:49:33 AM8/5/02
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>From: cycl...@YAHOO.COM (Tom Kunich)

>So you identified with a self-absorbed >suicidal asshole?

Glad to hear you're not depressed, Tom.
--Tom Paterson


The Pomeranian

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Aug 5, 2002, 2:34:32 PM8/5/02
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Henry Chang wrote:
>
> On Sun, 4 Aug 2002 07:26:28 +0200, "François de la Rochelle"
> <francois.de...@ifrance.com> wrote:
>
> >The Catcher in the Eye, in Europe, is also a worship cult book. I read it so
> >many time! i know one reporter that, unsucessly, had been trying for years
> >to interview him
> >
> >I bought Lance's book last year and I liked it, because Lance has never been
> >very talkative on TV his book helps us to know more about him
> >
> >in France Lance's book is nevertheles far behind one of our best selling
> >book by the left-wing Thierry Meyssan explaining that Mossad and CIA let
> >muslims free to attack the WTC.
> >
> >you can read even read it for free:
> >
> >http://www.effroyable-imposture.net

No thanks.

> Back in 1939, the French government should have attacked the Eiffel
> Tower, blown it to bits, and blamed it on the Germans.
>
> Why?
>
> Perhaps it would have inspired the general populace to offer at least
> token resistance to the Germans who were waltzing in to drink French
> wine, eat French cheese, and have sex with French women.
>

Say what you want about the French. At least they like racing bikes and
hosting great bike races.

GGGGOOOOOOOOOOOO LLLAAAAANNCCCE!
GGGOOOOOOO FRRRRRAAAAAAAANNNCCCCCCCCEEEEEEEEE!

Henry Chang

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Aug 5, 2002, 3:05:45 PM8/5/02
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On Mon, 05 Aug 2002 11:34:32 -0700, The Pomeranian
<lifti...@smellslikeakennel.com> wrote:

>
>Say what you want about the French. At least they like racing bikes and
>hosting great bike races.
>
>GGGGOOOOOOOOOOOO LLLAAAAANNCCCE!
>GGGOOOOOOO FRRRRRAAAAAAAANNNCCCCCCCCEEEEEEEEE!


They may like hosting great bike races, but I don't know that they
enjoy racing bikes all that much.


Henry

Tom Kunich

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Aug 5, 2002, 11:00:05 PM8/5/02
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"Tom Paterson" <dusto...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
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> >From: cycl...@YAHOO.COM (Tom Kunich)
>
> >So you identified with a self-absorbed >suicidal asshole?
>
> Glad to hear you're not depressed, Tom.

Well, the point is that young men at the age they are forced to read that
book ARE DEPRESSED. In many cases that is like throwing gasoline on a fire.
I never saw the slightest literary value in the book to begin with and it
astounds me that A Tale of Two Cities languishes while J.D. Salinger
continues to draw on that idiotic novel.

Aarron Canino

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Aug 27, 2002, 4:05:10 PM8/27/02
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"Tom Kunich" <cycl...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I would bet that today you'd find more students required to read
> "Catcher in the Rye" than "Julius Caesar". Teachers are a lot more
> interested in suggesting that suicide is an answer than in trying to
> inform students that often those who you might think of as evil might
> have equally honorable interests to your own.

Have you ever read Julius Caesar? Are you suggesting that it is better
literature if it has a high body count due to murder than if it portrays a
suicidal character?

Aarron Canino

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Aug 28, 2002, 4:07:27 AM8/28/02
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Read Atlas Shrugged and really liked it. Also have read The Fountainhead
and Anthem, both excellent.


"Henry Chang" <lhchang.t...@adelphia.net> wrote in message

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> On 6 Aug 2002 12:52:27 -0700, cycl...@yahoo.com (Tom Kunich) wrote:
> >
> >Are you serious? Ayn Rand is a hard read but there are things in there
> >that can change your life perspective for the better.
>
>
>
> I read "Atlas Shrugged" and although I agree with her views, her
> writing style may have been the most pedantic ever. How many times did
> she make the same point? 100? She could have shaved 750 pages out of
> that book.
>
>
>
> Henry

The Pomeranian

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Sep 3, 2002, 8:31:27 PM9/3/02
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Read Can In The Hat. Also read Green Eggs And Ham (Sam I Am).
Excellent all.

warren

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Sep 3, 2002, 11:23:12 PM9/3/02
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In article <3D75545F...@smellslikeakennel.com>, The Pomeranian
<lifti...@smellslikeakennel.com> wrote:

> Read Can In The Hat. Also read Green Eggs And Ham (Sam I Am).
> Excellent all.

Oh dude. A typo in a post about reading...
What school did you go too?

-WG

Terence Griffin

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warren <war...@usvh.com> wrote in message news:<030920022021316845%war...@usvh.com>...

> In article <3D75545F...@smellslikeakennel.com>, The Pomeranian
> <lifti...@smellslikeakennel.com> wrote:
>
> > Read Can In The Hat. Also read Green Eggs And Ham (Sam I Am).
> > Excellent all.
>
> Oh dude. A typo in a post about reading...
> What school did you go too?

Probably the same school you goed two :}

warren

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Sep 4, 2002, 8:23:10 PM9/4/02
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In article <2f65a41b.02090...@posting.google.com>, Terence
Griffin <terence...@nist.gov> wrote:

My "typo" was on porpoise.

-WG

The Pomeranian

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Sep 4, 2002, 8:29:35 PM9/4/02
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I meant to fall down the stairs.

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