Why the HELL isn't Juan Jose Haedo on a Pro Tour Team?
crit PRO
on the fact that Gord smoked Mario, and that proves US based sprinters
CAN compete at the highest level.
When will the Pro Tour Directors wake up, and bring this guy to Europe.
Like NOW. He could WIN MILAN SAN REMO in 2006!
crit PRO (smoked by Juan Jose Haedo one too many times)
jerry in vermont
Wow, I agree. I was just telling Page this afternoon, dont feel bad
about having him poached (hurts in the wallet ya know) cause he wont
last the year.
Good old Pro Tour get outa contract free clause.
Now back to my velonews....
J
Fred, Team Fred
> Juan Jose Haedo could easily smoke Allezandro Petaccii. That is based
> on the fact that Gord smoked Mario, and that proves US based sprinters
> CAN compete at the highest level.
>
> When will the Pro Tour Directors wake up, and bring this guy to Europe.
> Like NOW. He could WIN MILAN SAN REMO in 2006!
Redlands deja vu. Last year Haedo won two stages there and then kinda
disappeared for the rest of the season.
And wasn't it you who said that just 'cuz you win Redlands it doesn't
mean anything 'cuz it's an early training race?
Kenny
finish a 300km classic (and beat Peta)?
Kenny
Kurgan Gringioni
Kenny wrote:
> oh, pleas! I bet the guy never did a 220km race. How could he ever
> finish a 300km classic (and beat Peta)?
Dumbass -
You are correct, the 300k race is a different game.
Don't be so sure of Everlasting Euro Superiority in the Classics
though. There's a very large gene pool on this side of the Atlantic.
thanks,
K. Gringioni.
Kenny
how do you expect an American rider to be interested in the classics?
K
Carl Sundquist
"Kurgan Gringioni" <kgrin...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> You are correct, the 300k race is a different game.
>
> Don't be so sure of Everlasting Euro Superiority in the Classics
> though. There's a very large gene pool on this side of the Atlantic.
>
It's not the gene pool, but how it's cultivated.
Donald Munro
>>You are correct, the 300k race is a different game.
>>Don't be so sure of Everlasting Euro Superiority in the Classics
>>though. There's a very large gene pool on this side of the Atlantic.
Kenny wrote:
> Ofcourse I'm sure; as long as most of the Americans only know the Tour
> how do you expect an American rider to be interested in the classics?
Anyway Haedo is Argentinean according to cyclingnews (unless you're using
American in a broader geographical sense).
Tom Kunich
Kurgan Gringioni
Dumbass -
It's both.
Kurgan Gringioni
Kenny wrote:
> Ofcourse I'm sure; as long as most of the Americans only know the Tour
> how do you expect an American rider to be interested in the classics?
Dumbass -
Errr . . . because dude might be a bike racer?
thanks,
K. Gringioni.
fred....@yahoo.com
crit PRO wrote:
> Juan Jose Haedo could easily smoke Allezandro Petaccii. That is based
> on the fact that Gord smoked Mario, and that proves US based sprinters
> CAN compete at the highest level.
>
Idiot! Gord beat Mario 'cause Mario had already started his
'retirement tour' and wasn't really trying. Besides, JJ Haedo barely
beat Gord and Gord's well past his prime.
Fred
Fake name goes here
"crit PRO" <cri...@aol.com> wrote:
> Juan Jose Haedo could easily smoke Allezandro Petaccii. That is based
> on the fact that Gord smoked Mario, and that proves US based sprinters
> CAN compete at the highest level.
So some domestic pro planned his entire year to peak in Feb and happened
to win 2 stages in...in...FEBRUARY. So now he's supposed to challenge
Petaccii on the pro tour. You're delusional. He's racing against guys
who are at 80%. I predict he won't win a stage at Georgia when
everyone's firing.
Carl Sundquist
"Fake name goes here" <n...@email.com> wrote in message
>> Juan Jose Haedo could easily smoke Allezandro Petaccii. That is based
>> on the fact that Gord smoked Mario, and that proves US based sprinters
>> CAN compete at the highest level.
>
> So some domestic pro planned his entire year to peak in Feb and happened
> to win 2 stages in...in...FEBRUARY. So now he's supposed to challenge
> Petaccii on the pro tour. You're delusional. He's racing against guys
> who are at 80%. I predict he won't win a stage at Georgia when
> everyone's firing.
Sprinting in the realm of domestic US racing is an entirely different world
than on the Continent. It seems to me that it takes a special breed to be
able to sprint at the end of a long race. Something that doesn't necessarily
apply to fitness. Sprinters that can pull it out of their ass at the end of
a long stage have
some unique physiology that I can't explain, except by example.
No slight intended toward Fred Rodriguez, but there have been few American
riders who could really be categorized as sprinters in the euro peloton.
Phinney had a year or two; the other was Scott McKinley. McKinley had the
talent to sprint w/ the euro boys. Maybe not head to head with Cipo, but
there certainly seems to be only one Cipo. In the West Virginia K Mart
Classic in 1994, McKinley was riding for Coors Light(?). On one stage, Scott
and two others broke away early in a long (90 mile+) stage, only to get
caught with a few miles to go. I don't remember the details, but despite
having been off the front for about 67 out of the last 70 miles, Scott won
the stage in a field sprint. I remember thinking, "How the hell could he do
that?".
Kenny
opinion. You have to save those people on the edge; Crit Poo however
has already crossed that line. He's lost.
SH
By crossing the finish line before everyone else.
Glad to be of assistance.
Tom Kunich
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> No, i'm just trying to prevent him from giving cycling nitwits an
> opinion. You have to save those people on the edge; Crit Poo however
> has already crossed that line. He's lost.
Here we are with a race in February and whacked out crit_poo believes that a
sprint means something.
Over on the bicycle forums they were asking how to improve the Tour of
California and several nitwits said,
"Add some mountain top finishes."
Apparently they didn't attend any climbs and see the disparity of the groups
in February. Exactly how is the ToC going to look with 30 minute time gaps
between positions?
I noted that the UCI is thinking that a Tour or two in the USA is a hell of
a lot more important than the Vuelta. While I understand the marketing
strategy the tradition is sure getting short shrift.
Rik Van Diesel
spending time over there. Too few sprinter from over here have the
experience and the time Europe to get the real result. It is the whole
package of getting use to all the euro aspects of life and racing. It
isn't learned in a year or two either. Also defining success is tricky.
Can he beat Petacci or Boonen in the tour. Maybe not, but all it takes
is one day to make it worth while. He could certainly be in the next
level. He looks like he has real speed. Yes it is Feb, and maybe he
racing against guys not a 100% (although some how Boonen and Petacci
are winning now), but he was a lot faster than the other guys in the
TOC. Look at the last sprint he where he wasn't in great position and
got moved off Pollack's wheel, and then didn't jump with him
immediatelly. He sprinted to get back on pollack's wheel, Pollack
jumped and then he reacted late to get back again, and then to make it
worse he started his sprint too late. But when he final committed to
the line he was moving a lot faster than Pollack.
RVD
Kenny
you have to admit his main sprint rivals aren't that great. I think
the main difference with GT bunch sprints is the preparation for the
last km. A lot of sprinters that are able of winning sprints in
smaller stage races are already smoked before the last km because of
the speed (that is certainly e few km/h higher) and the intensity of
trying to find the best spot or the best wheel. And with several top
level sprinters in one peloton (Peta, Boonen, McEwen, Hushovd, ...)
that's a lot more chaotic and a lot harder than a TOC stage.
K