An old bike finally dies - need replacement.
mort
british double top tube steel bike that dates back to 1917 ( he was
told by a British guy when he lived in London). It was apparently made
for military use. Still has the original handle bars and grips, frame,
seat post and saddle (!), crank, and brake levers. Replaced wheels,
chain, gears. He has been using it every day for the last 6 years, but
the frame has broken twice in the last month and our local antique bike
guy says it is unfixable now. Anyone know the best place to get a
really old bike? I don't think he's interested in anything after WWII,
and he does plan to ride it. He's about 6 feet tall. Any suggestions
appreciated.
Mort
Gary Smiley
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mort
on the wall and go get a mountain bike, he sneered at me.
Mort
RonSonic
Well, he can outbid collectors for the old stuff or he can get the ones made
like that now.
http://www.yellowjersey.org/EASTMAN.HTML
http://www.lovson.com/bicycle-105.html
Guess they don't have model years in India.
Ron
Chalo
"opafiets". Then he could have his ancient-type bike, but also have a
chance to wear the thing out himself instead of buying it that way:
http://www.batavus.nl/pages/fietsen/collectie2005/bike.asp?countryId=1&bikeGroupId=140
Resurrecting an actual antique bike is a highly questionable pursuit--
if your friend were up to the requisite committment, he'd probably
already know where to start looking, and he'd probably do his own
maintenance.
Chalo Colina
A Muzi
Unfixable?
I once bought a ' Raleigh roadster tandem' sight unseen
which turned out to be a farmer-welded abortion involving a
Raleigh and a Phillips. No part of it was straight.
My staff helped pull the frame apart, we cut tubes from dead
Raleighs,pulled lugs from them and actually made one in a
few days one winter.
Peter and Amy Smith were wed on it- rode it right in the church:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/amypete.jpg
So I think 'unfixable' may be relative. . .
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Andrew Muzi
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Open every day since 1 April, 1971
Zoot Katz
<o5bkt05lbp1ldb0cv...@4ax.com>, RonSonic
<rons...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>Guess they don't have model years in India.
Different calendar.
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zk
Jim Smith
> http://www.lovson.com/bicycle-105.html
>Guess they don't have model years in India.
It is interesting that they list the bicycle under "light engineering"
rather than "sporting goods"
Werehatrack
>That's what he wants. More soul. I suggested that he hang the old one
>on the wall and go get a mountain bike, he sneered at me.
If it has to be an old one, he'll just have to dig through junk shops,
thrift stores, and scrap specialists then. Anyone that's selling such
not-quite-antiques intentionally and with knowledge of their age will
want a premium price; far more than the intrinsic value of the item as
a useful implement. I see '50s-era bikes in thrift stores fairly
often, but pre-war stuff is much less common.
On the other hand, it's possible to buy a brand new recreation of
those old bikes today; they're still in production in both India and
Mexico at the very least, and someone who posts here regularly has
also been importing one of the single-top-tube versions (the Eastman,
over at yellowjersey.org) to the US. For another take on genuine
retro quality and style, consider the Swiss Army Bike (no, it doesn't
have a red facing and a bunch of fold-out specialty wheels, though I
believe it still has a bottle opener) also at yellowjersey.org.
Last but not least, look at the US-made industrial bikes at
www.mcmaster.com; just enter the keyword "bicycles" in their search
feature and then scroll down the page a bit. Double top tube, heavy
steel.
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Werehatrack
wrote:
In India, bikes are primarily for transportation.
RonSonic
wrote:
McMaster Carr rocks. Every time I've ever needed some industrial tool or machine
component or material they've been there. It jut never occured to me they'd have
bikes. But of course they do.
Someone need to give these a road test.
Ron
maxo
> Any suggestions
> appreciated.
How about a Kronan? I don't know where you're located, but you can get
them in Canada, and I'm sure they can ship to the US.
The bike is new, but the design is exactly the same as 60 years ago. If
your friend wants to go all the way, he could replace the vinyl seat with
a sprung Brooks to complete the effect.
Around 400USD
Zoot Katz
<pan.2005.01.04....@NOSPAMhome.se>, maxo
<ma...@NOSPAMhome.se> wrote:
>How about a Kronan? I don't know where you're located, but you can get
>them in Canada, and I'm sure they can ship to the US.
The Pederson is an even older living fossil.
--
zk
maxo
> The Pederson is an even older living fossil.
The frame perhaps, but most of 'em end up with pretty modern Shimano
drivtrains these days. Equipped with a basic Nexus 7 setup, I believe you
can get one for around 1200USD--not bad considering the labour going into
the frame and "seat"
I'd love one set up as a city bike.
I do like the Indian Roadsters at yellowjersey.org--the price is right and
I've ridden thousands of miles on a roadster (English) and found it to be
a quite good everyday bike despite the very old fashioned design.
Zoot Katz
<pan.2005.01.04....@NOSPAMhome.se>, maxo
<ma...@NOSPAMhome.se> wrote:
>
>I do like the Indian Roadsters at yellowjersey.org--the price is right and
>I've ridden thousands of miles on a roadster (English) and found it to be
>a quite good everyday bike despite the very old fashioned design.
I would trust Andrew Muzi's shop to assemble it properly but Indian
metallurgy has never much impressed me. I'd prefer Pashley's updated
version of their roadster with its hub brakes and lighter componentry.
Yellow Jersey could probably build it up that way too if that's what
one wanted. It'd probably even end up being less expensive than a
Pashely. I wouldn't wish rod-actuated brakes on anyone.
--
zk
maxo
> . I wouldn't wish rod-actuated brakes on anyone.
Yeah, they're pretty lousy. You can set them up so they work OK, but I'd
be nervous using them in hilly conditions. I might have to see if I can
retrofit a set of Koolstop continentals to fit, I could probably reuse the
old steel rim brakepad holders somehow.
Next bike I go total retro with will probably have modern bits where it's
stupid not to, like alloy rims with Shimano roller brakes. Modern, but
quirky enough looking to be different. Contrary to what a lot of folks
say, they stop just fine for a city ride--and they always work. :P Unlike
those pesky rod brakes. :D
A Muzi
> <pan.2005.01.04....@NOSPAMhome.se>, maxo
> <ma...@NOSPAMhome.se> wrote:
>>I do like the Indian Roadsters at yellowjersey.org--the price is right and
>>I've ridden thousands of miles on a roadster (English) and found it to be
>>a quite good everyday bike despite the very old fashioned design.
Zoot Katz wrote:
> I would trust Andrew Muzi's shop to assemble it properly but Indian
> metallurgy has never much impressed me. I'd prefer Pashley's updated
> version of their roadster with its hub brakes and lighter componentry.
>
> Yellow Jersey could probably build it up that way too if that's what
> one wanted. It'd probably even end up being less expensive than a
> Pashely. I wouldn't wish rod-actuated brakes on anyone.
Very well considered. Zoot's apparently familiar with both
Roadsters and Indian bicycles.
We do our best but indeed these Edwardian designs combined
with Mystery Metal are superior only to Chinese Roadsters
and aren't first quality.
However, if one's expectations are not overly high, they do
have the 'roadster feel' - and that great view of the entire
front wheel way out in front someplace.
Of late we've built more fixed and SRAM-7 with coaster. A
few with cantlevers and Michelin 700-40. Many customers
generally agree with Mr Katz about articulated rod brakes.
If the importer of Pashley wasn't so darn difficult we'd
still carry them. What shops do now?
In the genre, Bianchi's (discontinued) Rex and Regina along
with the Italian Olympia (still made?) are truly first rate
bikes, but seldom seen in USA.
pape...@myway.com
single speed. And looking relatively recent (though generally well
used). Benotto of Mexico lists one on their website, double bar diamond
frames, 28" tires and all, along with a more roadbike-like 10 speed
variation. Most interestingly, the 10 speed supposedly has alloy 28"
wheels! And the prices listed are ridiculously cheap (in pesos).
Unfortunately, you'll have to find a Mexican bike shop that actually
carries them to try. Still, If I could find one, I'd pick it up in a
heartbeat.
maxo
> 10 speed supposedly has alloy 28"
> wheels!
!
I'll bet you this cheese sandwich that they're 700c's which sometimes are
referred to as 28s. I would love you give you my cheese sandwich. ;)
If one could find alloy rims in the old roadster size, I'd gladly give up
the handsome, but heavy and poor braking Dunlops on the Raleigh. :D
d...@topowest.com
stircrazysavant
Want to sell the broken bike? I also know of some potential outlets
for the bike you are looking for. Email direct to
stircra...@yahoo.com Thanks, Mike
Zoot Katz
A Muzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>Of late we've built more fixed and SRAM-7 with coaster. A
>few with cantlevers and Michelin 700-40. Many customers
>generally agree with Mr Katz about articulated rod brakes.
With a coaster brake or fixie though I'd keep the rod brakes for their
decorative properties.
I worked on a Raleigh roadster at OCB! so got to test ride it. I have
also had opportunity to examine both Pashleys and Heros.
No comparison.
Someone in Vancouver has recently begun importing Dutch city bikes
spec'd for North America.
They're displaying them locally as props in various unrelated shop
window dressings. It's an eye-catching marketing ploy coupled with a
glitzy web-site. I not seen that they have an actual bike shop.
I'd think many people would hesitate spending $600 - $1,100 for a
bicycle that comes with no direct shop support.
pape...@myway.com
SS roadster: http://tinyurl.com/3qput
10 speed roadster: http://tinyurl.com/6oefm
The 10 speed seems more road bike than roadster, but is spec'd with
aluminum rims.
Mike Kruger
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> I've seen many old fashioned roadster styled bikes...
>. Benotto of Mexico lists one on their website, double bar
diamond
> frames, 28" tires and all, along with a more roadbike-like
10 speed
> variation.
Why the double bar top tube for these roadster designs?
Would they otherwise be less than 40 pounds?