ATC Privatization moves forward!
Larry Dighera
It seems pretty clear that the airlines are behind this ATC
privatization issue:
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AVflash Volume 9, Number 47b November 20, 2003
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FAA'S EXTREME MAKEOVER
On Tuesday, the FAA announced a major overhaul of its
organizational structure, with the aim of making the agency leaner
and more efficient. The new Air Traffic Organization (ATO)
business structure will consolidate the FAA's air traffic
services, research and acquisitions, and Free Flight Program
activities, and focus on providing the best service for the best
value to the aviation industry and the traveling public. "Today is
the first phase of creating a true, performance-based air traffic
organization," said Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta. The
ATO was developed under the guidance of Russell Chew, a former
American Airlines captain and executive who now serves as the
FAA's first chief operating officer.
http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/157-full.html#186106
vincent p. norris
>privatization issue:
Privatization of many governmental functions has long been a goal of
the Republican Party. Republican leaders believe the market can
provide better service at lower costs.
Right now, the drug bill in Congress seeks to take the first step out
of Medicare by enabling people to choose a private sector alternative.
vince norris
G.R. Patterson III
"vincent p. norris" wrote:
>
> Privatization of many governmental functions has long been a goal of
> the Republican Party.
The only things that kept ATC from being privatized ten years ago was the
Republican party and AOPA. The Democrats have been pushing privatization most
strongly.
George Patterson
A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something that can
be learned no other way.
Martin
Though, George, you cant deny that this is a republican initiative
today (not disputing ten years ago, because, to be honest i dont even
know). If it wasnt... well, it wouldnt be happening right now...
In more broad terms, privatization is clearly a republican push while
democrats are more government spending/social welfare based.
Bottom line, if any of you have ever taken an economics class, a true
economically efficient ATC model includes effects on demand (meaning
costs discouraging usage to some degree), and this is where
republicans are heading, not just in ATC but in most other things
(think medicare, think envirmental laws etc).
This is meant to be non-partisan, just a very simple laying out of the
facts. To be honest, i agree with privatization for the most part, in
its economic foundations, but not for ATC, i think thats one of those
cases where suffering the economic inefficiency is worth the social
benefits. Im sure others feel differently, dont bite my head off for
it.
Bob Noel
wingo...@msn.com (Martin) wrote:
> Bottom line, if any of you have ever taken an economics class, a true
> economically efficient ATC model includes effects on demand (meaning
> costs discouraging usage to some degree), and this is where
> republicans are heading, not just in ATC but in most other things
One of these days people will know how to cost safety. Until then,
the notion that anyone can define an economically efficient ATC
model is just horse manure.
--
Bob Noel
vincent p. norris
>strongly.
George, that is like saying that the group arguing most strenuously
for birth control and abortion is the Catholic Church. Or that the
NAACP is fighting for segregated schools and restaurants.
It flies in the face of everything we know about the two parties.
I would have to see very precise documentation before I would believe
that.
vince norris
Larry Dighera
wrote in Message-Id: <hfh2sv4u2oiqj5tpj...@4ax.com>:
>I would have to see very precise documentation before I would believe
>that.
It was Algor who introduced the notion that ATC become a PBO, and
Clinton signed the Executive Order, IIRC. McCain was pushing ATC
privatization a couple of years ago... There's not question that
Boeing and the airlines are the motivating force, IMO.
Go hear and search:
http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search?hl=en
It's been documented in this newsgroup.
vincent p. norris
>>that.
>
>It was Algor who introduced the notion that ATC become a PBO, and
>Clinton signed the Executive Order, IIRC. McCain was pushing ATC
>privatization a couple of years ago... There's not question that
>Boeing and the airlines are the motivating force, IMO.
Larry, saying "IIRC and "IMO" is not documentation. Sen. McCain is a
Republican, not a Democrat.
BTW, I'm going to be out of town for several days, so if you intend to
post documentation, please wait till Sunday, or you message will be
gone when I get back.
vince norris
Larry Dighera
wrote in Message-Id: <jhs7sv01e5gucd04j...@4ax.com>:
>>>I would have to see very precise documentation before I would believe
>>>that.
>>
>>It was Algor who introduced the notion that ATC become a PBO, and
>>Clinton signed the Executive Order, IIRC. McCain was pushing ATC
>>privatization a couple of years ago... There's not question that
>>Boeing and the airlines are the motivating force, IMO.
>
>Larry, saying "IIRC and "IMO" is not documentation.
If you do a Yahoo search, you'll find the Gore and Clinton documents.
I have also posted them in this newsgroup in the past, so a
www.deja.com search will locate them also.
>Sen. McCain is a Republican, not a Democrat.
Correct. However he seems to have changed his pro ATC privatization
stance.
>BTW, I'm going to be out of town for several days, so if you intend to
>post documentation, please wait till Sunday, or you message will be
>gone when I get back.
You'll find my posts archived on www.deja.com.