Optima Battery
Rando
would think a marine battery would be of choice for it's
deep cycle.???
I need to purchase a new battery very soon and would
appreciate the NG's vast wealth of knowledge.
TIA,
Randy
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DougB
A Red top is generally best for daily driving and occasional winching. A
deep cycle yellow top really is not suited to regular use, but would be a
good choice if you will be winching a lot.
Doug
DougB
I tend to disagree (red top vs. yellow top). Both are truly excellent, but a
deep cycle (like a yellow) is good for long heavy draws, where it can be
drawn down, and then recharged. They are not particularly suited for quick
draws and recharge (like normal starting). They are certainly better than
conventional batteries (the yellow), but unless your gonna be doing a lot of
heavy continuous winching, a Red Top would be better (IMO). I have a winch
and a red top...no problem there, but my winch does not see a lot of long
continuous pulls.
Doug
Jerry Bransford <jer...@home.com> wrote in message
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> Actually the Yellow Top is definitely very well suited for regular use,
> but it is just especially good for the deep amperage pulls from a
> winch. My only battery is an Optima Yellow Top. A Yellow Top is far
> better for daily use (in addition to its strengths highly suitable for
> winching) than any conventional car battery in addition to outlasting it
> by 2x or 3x, that is for sure.
>
> Jerry
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them. I would think the 4 post red top would be the
ultimate battery for any jeep. Don't hook your winch to the
side posts, use the top ones and hook your regular cables
for the starter to the side posts.
Rando wrote:
>
> Which battery is the NG's favorite (or most common). I
> would think a marine battery would be of choice for it's
> deep cycle.???
> I need to purchase a new battery very soon and would
> appreciate the NG's vast wealth of knowledge.
>
> TIA,
> Randy
>
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Jerry
Art Welch wrote:
>
> Try the Optima Yellow top if you'll be winching.
>
> Art
>
> Rando <rschmidt...@flourmilling.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:22a04106...@usw-ex0103-020.remarq.com...
> > Which battery is the NG's favorite (or most common). I
> > would think a marine battery would be of choice for it's
> > deep cycle.???
> > I need to purchase a new battery very soon and would
> > appreciate the NG's vast wealth of knowledge.
> >
> > TIA,
> > Randy
> >
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but it is just especially good for the deep amperage pulls from a
winch. My only battery is an Optima Yellow Top. A Yellow Top is far
better for daily use (in addition to its strengths highly suitable for
winching) than any conventional car battery in addition to outlasting it
by 2x or 3x, that is for sure.
Jerry
DougB wrote:
>
> A Red top is generally best for daily driving and occasional winching. A
> deep cycle yellow top really is not suited to regular use, but would be a
> good choice if you will be winching a lot.
>
> Doug
>
> Rando <rschmidt...@flourmilling.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:22a04106...@usw-ex0103-020.remarq.com...
> > Which battery is the NG's favorite (or most common). I
> > would think a marine battery would be of choice for it's
> > deep cycle.???
> > I need to purchase a new battery very soon and would
> > appreciate the NG's vast wealth of knowledge.
> >
> > TIA,
> > Randy
> >
> >
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What are the negative effects (if any) of using the yellow top? Guranted
that it shines in long current draw situations (winching), are there
setbacks in using it for regular current draw (starting)? Does it have the
same CCA as the redtops?
Thanks.
daba...@prodigy.net (DougB) wrote in <85h0qi$bnva$1@newssvr03
-int.news.prodigy.com>:
>
>I tend to disagree (red top vs. yellow top). Both are truly excellent,
>but a deep cycle (like a yellow) is good for long heavy draws, where it
>can be drawn down, and then recharged. They are not particularly suited
>for quick draws and recharge (like normal starting). They are certainly
>better than conventional batteries (the yellow), but unless your gonna
>be doing a lot of heavy continuous winching, a Red Top would be better
>(IMO). I have a winch and a red top...no problem there, but my winch
>does not see a lot of long continuous pulls.
>
>Doug
>
>Jerry Bransford <jer...@home.com> wrote in message
>news:387BFFC0...@home.com...
Brad D
the Yellow Top isn't a deep cycle battery. I talked to Optima about their
batteries before buying the Yellow Top. The Yellow Top and the Red Top are
very similar. The main differences are that the Yellow Top has less CCA than
the Red Top, and the Yellow Top can withstand more deep cycles than the Red
Top. Something like 500 deep cycles as opposed to 350 for the Red Top. The
Red Top is aimed at "normal" use, the Yellow Top is aimed at vehicles that
may use heavy draw accessories, such as winches or off road lights with the
engine turned off. Optima does make a true deep cycle battery, which I think
is the blue top. Optima recommended the Yellow Top for my aplication.
Brad
"DougB" <daba...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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Craig Ruth
Interesting but the information on optimas website disagrees.
Which Optima should you use?
Applications at a Glance:
Starters Red Top/SLI batteries
Car Audio Yellow Top/Deep Cycle only
Red Top/SLI will not be covered by warranty
Generators Red Top/SLI batteries
Tractors Red Top/SLI batteries if used with an alternator
Ambulances Yellow Top/Deep Cycle for both Starting and Deep Cycle use
Fire, Police Yellow Top/Deep Cycle for both Starting and Deep Cycle
use
Solar Power Yellow Top/Deep Cycle batteries
We frequently receive questions from customers regarding the correct
use of
Optima Starting and Deep Cycle batteries; specifically, in which
applications
should a Deep Cycle Optima be used as a Starting battery?
Deep Cycle Batteries
"Deep Cycle" batteries are designed for applications that require
deep, repetitive
amperage drain, like trolling motors, golf carts, and electric
wheelchairs, or RV
house power sources. However, there are other applications, called
"Heavy
Cycling" or "High Cycling", when a Deep Cycle Optima can successfully
replace a
starting battery to provide longer life and better performance.
In heavy cycling or high cycling applications, a vehicle will pull
unusually high
amperage levels from the starting battery due to extra accessories or
limited
alternator capacity. Public safety professionals, such as police,
fire, and
ambulance fleet managers often find that traditional starting
batteries cannot
provide adequate life and performance due to heavy cycling. This is an
excellent
opportunity to provide your customer with longer life and better
performance by
using an Optima Deep Cycle battery in this type of application.
SLI Batteries
In any vehicle or equipment that will use the battery only for
Starting, Lighting, &
Ignition requirements and has a properly working alternator, Optima's
Red Top
Starting Battery will perform extremely well, often providing two to
three times
longer life than conventional batteries. If the vehicle has few or no
after-market
accessories and uses a stock or upgraded alternator, the Optima Red
Top Starting
Battery is the appropriate choice.
Remember, it is possible for the customer to have a completely
discharged Yellow
Top Optima that will not start their engine; the advantages of the
Yellow Top are
that it can accept a rapid recharge and it will recover from discharge
many more
times.
To provide the customer the best Optima solution, it is, necessary to
consider both
the application and the charging system before recommending the
correct Optima.
For example, if your customer has a Ford Expedition with an
after-market alarm
system, which Optima would you recommend? If the customer drives the
car every
day, the Red Top would be the correct choice, since the amperage drain
will be
nominal and the battery would be recharged on a daily basis. However,
if the
customer stores the vehicle for a long period of time with the alarm
system
engaged, you should recommend the Optima Yellow Top, since the
amperage
drain over several weeks would damage a Red Top and reduce its' life.
Deep Cycle Uses
The Optima Yellow Top Deep Cycle Battery should be used in the
following cases:
1) Starting applications in high-accessory vehicles/High Cycling
Applications.
Vehicles with computers, extra radios, electronic components, lights,
winches, etc.
will create excessive amperage drain that can damage a starting
battery.
Recommend the Optima Yellow Top to provide fast recharging and longer
life due
to its' ability to cycle over 300 times.
2) Starting applications with low amperage draws. If your customer has
a vehicle
that sits unused for long periods of time, either Optima will provide
longer life due
to reduced corrosion and sulfation. However, if the vehicle has an
alarm, computer,
or other low amperage drain, the Yellow Top will guard against deep
cycling
damage that can occur over long periods of time.
3) To increase Reserve Capacity or Run Time. You must first identify
how long the
customer needs to use the battery to run a vehicle, accessory, or
motor before
without recharging. Each Optima Yellow Top Deep Cycle Battery is rated
at 124
minutes of Reserve Capacity at a 25 Amp draw. If your customer is
planning on
using their Optima in a trolling motor that pulls 50 Amps, they will
only get 62
minutes of run time. If they require more run time you need to install
multiple
batteries in parallel. It is important to understand what the customer
expects in
order to provide them with the correct Optima solution.
Remember:
Dark Gray Case means Starting Technology
Light Gray Case means Deep Cycle Technology
Optima Customer Service Department: (800) 292-4359
Straight from their website, www.optimabatteries.com
Craig
DougB
A Red Top as greater CCA than a Yellow Top and can hold up longer to short
draws and recharging. The YT is better at deep draws/discharges and
recharging. My point being that for those w/o winches OR w/ winches that are
used for emergency situations, a RT would be best. If multiple long draws (a
lot of winching) a YT would be better suited. It just depends. Both are
great...and one real benefit...they can't leak. A friend of mine recently
rolled his YJ on a trail we were doing, and got acid everywhere
(conventional battery).
Doug
rsantosjeep <rsant...@rsantosnospam.com> wrote in message
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> Doug,
>
> What are the negative effects (if any) of using the yellow top? Guranted
> that it shines in long current draw situations (winching), are there
> setbacks in using it for regular current draw (starting)? Does it have
the
> same CCA as the redtops?
>
> Thanks.
>
DougB
Optima indicates that the YT is a Deep Cycle, and Deep Cycle batteries are
great for long draws and discharges. The YT is superior to any other Deep
Cycle and holds up fine to normal car use...but my point is that if your
winch is for occasional emergency use, you'd be better suited w/ a
RT...which has greater cranking ability and will hold up longer to short
draws and recharges (starting). It's really a matter of how your gonna use
it. Both are great.
Doug
Brad D <bdo...@home.com> wrote in message
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Stu Olson
I personally believe that Optima did themselves a BIG dis-favor by
classifying their YT battery as Deep Cycle. Here is my reasons for why I
say this.
For a moment, let's forget the idea that an Optima battery exists, and look
at the two major types of wet lead acid batteries....starting batteries and
deep cycle.
The design of these two batteries vary significantly in their lead plate
thickness. High discharge rate batteries (starting batteries) have thin
plates that help dissipate the heat. This heat is generated both during the
discharge (cranking the engine) and the charge cycles (rapid charge from
alternator). Starter batteries are by design able to deliver and receive
very high amounts of current, making them perfect for cranking over an
engine and getting 100+ amps slammed back into them real fast.
Starter batteries do not do well when discharged slowly over a long period
of time, nor do they do well when deeply discharged. What comes to mind
here is the ever popular deep discharge trolling motor battery in a boat or
those used to run the electrical circuits in a motor home. The thicker
plates on deep cycle batteries do not dissipate high heat loads, so using
them in high current draws (such as cranking over an engine or winching a
Jeep) is not good for them. Because they do not deliver high current well,
they also do not receive high current well....in other words, they do not
respond well to real high charge rates from a battery charger (or the 120+
amp output from a vehicle alternator). A properly designed deep cycle
battery charger will not supply more than 10 amps of current at max draw.
The thing to remember with the generic "deep cycle" battery is that they
will do long current draws, but they don't do high current during this time.
A medium sized trolling motor will suck maybe 4-10 amps (depending on the
speed setting). A 8000# winch will suck up 40 to 50 times that amount of
current. There in lies the big difference as to how the battery is
discharged.
The Optima Yellow and Red top battery write ups on their web site really
push the fact that both batteries have very low internal resistance (much
lower than what a standard auto starting battery has). Any battery with a
low internal resistance can accomplish two things extremely well....it can
provide very high discharge currents and it can accept very high charge
currents. Ohms law supports this physical trait and Optimas use of high
purity lead helps accomplish the heat handling needs of this type of
battery.
Optima batteries, both the Red and Yellow Top versions will work very well
for high current discharge and high current charge. Both of these are found
in both starting and winching applications.....the difference being that the
winching application keeps the up high current draw for longer periods of
time. The Yellow top battery provides a higher ampere capacity which will
keep the winch turning longer before draining the battery.
If the Yellow top battery were a true "deep cycle" battery, such as the kind
used for trolling motors, it could neither deliver the high winch currents
and it would cook itself when the high charge current from the alternator
was applied to it.
On the plus side, Optima did the consumers a favor by offering two high
quality batteries, with the Yellow Top costing more. For those users with
frequent winch demands, they pay more for a battery that is of a higher
quality and higher capacity. For those users who don't need the extra
capacity, they get by with a cheaper battery.
As I said in my opening statement, it is a shame that Optima used the words
"Deep Cycle" in their description of the Yellow Top battery. For all of us
who grew up with deep cycle RV and boat batteries, we automatically assume
it is in this same category. It is not.
The above is my opinion on Optima having worked with, on, and around these
beasts (and would you believed I car pooled for two years with a guy who did
batteries for a living?).
Stu
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'98 TJ w/ Tera 2"
'95 Cherokee Sport
'89 Cherokee
"DougB" <daba...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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Alex L.
Why was I disappointed with the Yellow top optima?
I have a 300W stereo system that kept draining the
yellow top within 2 hrs of play. While a Die Hard Gold
kept going 6 hrs at a time with no problems.
IMHO 300W is not that much.
Any comments
Thanks,
Alex L.
Jerry Bransford
terminology to describe their battery as a Deep Cycle... which makes it
easy to confuse it with a common marine-type deep cycle battery.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
since both CCA ratings are so much overkill, I don't consider the slight
addtional CCA raking of the Red Top to be be an issue. The Yellow Top
is a heavier-duty battery that should outlast the Red Top in any
imaginable circumstances... which is why it costs more than the Red
Top. A CCA rating is just one rating of a battery and shouldn't be used
as an indicator or reliability, quality, or as a means of ranking of one
battery over another, when the CCA of one battery is close to the CCA of
another battery. A cheap battery may very well have a higher CCA than a
much bettery quality battery that will hold up better in the long-term.
Jerry
rsantosjeep wrote:
>
> Doug,
>
> What are the negative effects (if any) of using the yellow top? Guranted
> that it shines in long current draw situations (winching), are there
> setbacks in using it for regular current draw (starting)? Does it have the
> same CCA as the redtops?
>
> Thanks.
>
> daba...@prodigy.net (DougB) wrote in <85h0qi$bnva$1@newssvr03
> -int.news.prodigy.com>:
>
> >
> >I tend to disagree (red top vs. yellow top). Both are truly excellent,
> >but a deep cycle (like a yellow) is good for long heavy draws, where it
> >can be drawn down, and then recharged. They are not particularly suited
> >for quick draws and recharge (like normal starting). They are certainly
> >better than conventional batteries (the yellow), but unless your gonna
> >be doing a lot of heavy continuous winching, a Red Top would be better
> >(IMO). I have a winch and a red top...no problem there, but my winch
> >does not see a lot of long continuous pulls.
> >
> >Doug
> >
> >Jerry Bransford <jer...@home.com> wrote in message
> >news:387BFFC0...@home.com...
> >> Actually the Yellow Top is definitely very well suited for regular
> >> use, but it is just especially good for the deep amperage pulls from a
> >> winch. My only battery is an Optima Yellow Top. A Yellow Top is far
> >> better for daily use (in addition to its strengths highly suitable for
> >> winching) than any conventional car battery in addition to outlasting
> >> it by 2x or 3x, that is for sure.
> >>
> >> Jerry
> >>
> >> DougB wrote:
> >> >
> >> > A Red top is generally best for daily driving and occasional
> >> > winching. A deep cycle yellow top really is not suited to regular
> >> > use, but would be
> >a
> >> > good choice if you will be winching a lot.
> >> >
> >> > Doug
> >> >
> >> > Rando <rschmidt...@flourmilling.com.invalid> wrote in message
> >> > news:22a04106...@usw-ex0103-020.remarq.com...
> >> > > Which battery is the NG's favorite (or most common). I
> >> > > would think a marine battery would be of choice for it's
> >> > > deep cycle.???
> >> > > I need to purchase a new battery very soon and would
> >> > > appreciate the NG's vast wealth of knowledge.
> >> > >
> >> > > TIA,
> >> > > Randy
> >> > >
> >> > >
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> >Network
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experience is the first time I've ever heard anyone claim a Yellow Top
was outlasted by any Sears Diehard (even 'Gold') battery... which isn't
exactly known as a first-line battery.
Jerry
--
Brad D
post.
Brad
"Stu Olson" <sol...@uswest.net> wrote in message
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Stu Olson
I was not stating that the Optima was a superior battery, I was explaining
the difference between Red and Yellow top models. (However, my next battery
purchase will be an Optima.)
One would have to do an analysis on the specs of both batteries to start
answering your question. After that, a few more questions should result in
a meaningful answer.
Stu
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'98 TJ w/ Tera 2"
'95 Cherokee Sport
'89 Cherokee
"Alex L." <ALEA...@email.mot.com> wrote in message
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Andy
side? anyone know how well that compares to the Optima?
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Andy
99' TJ Sahara
2" ProCrap lift
2" Body lift
33" BFG A/T KO's for street
32" Super Swampers for the trail
http://ProjectSahara.SouthernJeeps.com
http://www.SouthernJeeps.com
Jerry Bransford
as well as being a literally maintenance-free battery that can be
mounted in any position including upside-down. It is not a gel-cell
(which needs a special charging system), neither does it have a liquid
electrolyte. It is completely sealed and never needs water. Its
spyral-bound cell design with thinner plates is designed to provide more
power in a more compact design. I would imagine that Napa battery is
more of a conventional type battery though its four top posts are a very
good idea.
Jerry
--
Don Roy
What is it technically that makes a 'normal' battery and a 'deep cycle'
battery? Everyone talks about this one for this and that one for that, but I'd
like to know what the battery mfgs do differently.
Don Roy
______________________________
Andy
lease the internal design and case design, the Napa one looks exactly the same only
all the tops are black I also heard somewhere that interstate has one that is the
same design anyone know if this is true? if it is I think I am going to try the Napa
one just because of the terminal design. someone out there has to know the truth!
rsantosjeep
Very very nice catch. 2 years of car pooling with that guys must have done you
some good <g>. So, am I correct that you're going to get the Yellow Top?
Thanks for a great post.
sol...@uswest.net (Stu Olson) wrote in
<pb4f4.9$H6....@mick.cybertrails.com>:
Brad D
rebadged Optima batteries. Same thing, they just have an Interstate sticker
slapped on top.
Brad
"Andy" <in...@asd.com> wrote in message news:387D218D...@asd.com...
Jerry Bransford
week in an Interstate store sure looked like an Optima. Maybe that NAPA
battery is an Optima in NAPA clothing. If it is, I wonder which Optima
it's equivalent to. Maybe the specs are close enough so we can figure
it out? Can you provide the pertinent specs for that NAPA battery you
saw? Depending on which Optima model it may turn out to be, it might be
a good alternative to the normal two-post Yellow Top Optima for people
who have winches.
Jerry
Don Roy
Don Roy
___________________
Ed
I looked at both the Red and the Yellow - all the stats. I figured
that the main difference in the batteries probably will be in a few
years unless you use something like a winch or you do something wierd
like disconnecting your alternator for added hp! In those cases, you'd
need the deep cycle up front.
I don't own a winch, but I do like to watch the wildlife at night with
the engine off and the 100W KC'ers on full bore. I also park for
extended periods outdoors in a cold climate, sometimes for a week. I
figured I could use the extra reserve of the Yellow top. That was *my*
call.
Figure out what your life's like. If there's nothing special, get the
red. If there's any extenuating circumstances, get the Yellow. The $$$
difference isn't that great.
Either way, you'll be happy...
Good luck,
On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:01:01 -0800, Rando
<rschmidt...@flourmilling.com.invalid> wrote:
>Which battery is the NG's favorite (or most common). I
>would think a marine battery would be of choice for it's
>deep cycle.???
>I need to purchase a new battery very soon and would
>appreciate the NG's vast wealth of knowledge.
>
>TIA,
>Randy
>
>
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'97 TJ,2.5L Black/Spice, 100W KC's
31x10.5 BFG AT/ko's, AR39's
http://www.city-net.com/~emcm/eds_jeep.html
Jim Hale
Ed wrote in message <387d556d...@news.city-net.com>...
***snipped all of meaningful stuff***
>.......... I do like to watch the wildlife at night with
>the engine off...........
I think I used this line while dating in high school ! ;>)
Jim
'98 TJ Sport, 31X10.50 BFG MT, 2" R.E. spacer lift,
Smittybuilt nerfs, Hella 500 lights
September 2000 on the NG Calendar
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Stu Olson
Before I started car pooling with him, I couldn't even spell batteree! Now
I even know how to hook them up!!! :^)
I currently do not have a winch (don't hold that against me.....it is on the
list), but I have a fair amount of radio equipment (ham radio hobby kind of
person) in my TJ which loves to eat the battery when you run high power. I
will most likely go with a Yellow Top, hoping it survives many hot AZ
summers and is still around when my winch goes on.
later.........Stu
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'98 TJ w/ Tera 2"
'95 Cherokee Sport
'89 Cherokee
"rsantosjeep" <rsant...@rsantosnospam.com> wrote in message
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Andy
of the battery but it is not Optima they were just the first to lease the design I guess if
this is true then the NAPA one should be the same I guess I will now have to get one to
find out if they are as good. I do like the 2 sets on top and 1 on the side design.
Greg Bamford
power to the top?
talk to ya later, Greg
Ron Croonenberg
that with big draws from the battery those posts might weaken...or melt.
Must say I got mine hooked up that way and I didn't notice anything.
Richard Pierson
at the sub base in Groton Ct, only it was "submarine races" on the river
LOL
Jerry Bransford
internally with a smaller gauge connection that can't withstand the
potentially heavy current pulled by a winch. Optima says winches should
not be connected to the side posts, only the top posts.
Jerry
Greg Bamford wrote:
>
> Why put the winch to the top posts? Why not the side? Is there more
> power to the top?
>
> talk to ya later, Greg
--
CRWLR
I thought that they were. Mostly, I thought that I read "gel cell" on the
side of my Optima.
I have found that the ability to be upside down is pretty cool :-). No mess.
Jerry Bransford <jer...@home.com> wrote in message
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> The Optima was designed primarily to be vibration and shock-resistant,
> as well as being a literally maintenance-free battery that can be
> mounted in any position including upside-down. It is not a gel-cell
> (which needs a special charging system), neither does it have a liquid
> electrolyte. It is completely sealed and never needs water. Its
> spyral-bound cell design with thinner plates is designed to provide more
> power in a more compact design. I would imagine that Napa battery is
> more of a conventional type battery though its four top posts are a very
> good idea.
>
> Jerry
>
> Andy wrote:
> >
> > what about the deep cycle Napa battery the one with 4 posts on top and 2
on the
> > side? anyone know how well that compares to the Optima?
> >
> > --
> > Andy
> > 99' TJ Sahara
> > 2" ProCrap lift
> > 2" Body lift
> > 33" BFG A/T KO's for street
> > 32" Super Swampers for the trail
> > http://ProjectSahara.SouthernJeeps.com
> > http://www.SouthernJeeps.com
>
Jerry Bransford
They also added that a gel-cell battery requires a special kind of
charging system for best performance so maybe that's why I've never
noticed any gel-cell batteries for vehicles.
Jerry
CRWLR
Leak proof. That's all that's important to me.
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