I am astonished...
David Thornton
Chrysler product, and without fail there are at least 5 or 6 "diss" fights
going on here. I am amazed that the good people in this group actually
still allow this to go on.
It saddens me that someone new would come along actually needing information
or advice and they have to wade through the tirades to get what they want.
Well, I am for free speech and all, but there are proper venues out there to
trash each other on. The sad thing is that I would probably get flamed for
sticking up for the group, but I don't care, because I am better than that.
Any response to the contrary would only prove my point.
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Thunder
DeserTBoB
>Any response to the contrary would only prove my point. <snip>
Try allpar.com...no trolls, good stuff.
David Thornton
There are not just 5 or 6, but mostly the same two people in many, many
different headers going after each other. Each of them have their own
followers, who then flame each other.
And to think that people actually pay HBO and the like to see this stuff,
when we can get it for free here on USENET. Popcorn, anyone?
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Thunder
"David Thornton" <dtho...@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
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David Thornton
good advice from some of the old pros here in this NG. I just get tired of
having to wade through the BS mudslinging puddles to get the proper help.
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"DeserTBoB" <des...@rglobal.net> wrote in message
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DeserTBoB
<dtho...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>Um, I stand corrected...
>
>There are not just 5 or 6, but mostly the same two people in many, many
>different headers going after each other. Each of them have their own
>followers, who then flame each other.
>And to think that people actually pay HBO and the like to see this stuff,
>when we can get it for free here on USENET. Popcorn, anyone? <snip>
Good perception of the problem. Don't blame me...I just came in here
with a 318 with a failed lip seal in its water pump. The troll,
Charlie Nudo of Drums, PA, stalked me in here from another NG he
destroyed and started stirring the shit. Then, the usual action from
which trolls like Nudo get their jollies, the "division of the house,"
started.
One thing trolls like Nudo thrive on is general ignorance of how
Usenet works. People see several different IDs (he had over 14
accounts with almost a hundred different pseudonyms until Google got
wise and started kicking his ass) and think it's several different
people...it's not. It's one troll with many fake faces. That's
called "sock puppeteering" in Usenet parlance, and is usually a sign
of serious mental problems. He can cause enough damage from Google
Groups as it is. Just be thankful he's too incapacitated to figure
out how to work a powerful newsreader client.
There are some good sources of info in here, especially on the later
DC stuff, so I wouldn't give up. For example, look at what Fokker has
done with a flooded out LH just from info gleened in here...a totally
resurrected car that the insurance companies would've simply junked.
This is Usenet, and since Google allowed "WebTVers" like Nudo access
to Usenet, the troll problem has gotten worse. That's what your kill
filer is there for. I would, however, kill file
dutyhono...@hotmail.com and elkho...@yahoo.com immediately,
and kill file other irritants as they pop up. Google Groups has
allowed the troll two remaining accounts, so he's easy enough to
manage now. Just be glad you didn't have to deal with 14 of his "sock
puppets" like I did!
For a more illuminating history on Charlie Nudo the Troll, see:
...almost 17,000...yes, that's right...17,000 posts (and he already
deleted hundreds of them after getting into trouble with eBay and
Google) and counting. Psych students and practicioners can have a
field day reading this stuff!
damnnickname
Glenn Beasley
Chrysler Tech
Bill Putney
I agree with you 1000%. The one that has replied to your original post
several times posts under several aliases (has conversations with
himself as if he's two people discussing something, usually to reinforce
his anti-social venom) and is a particularly nasty sort - don't be
fooled by his b.s. I guess this is the downside and risk of an
unmoderated forum.
Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with the letter 'x')
elkho...@yahoo.com
It was a fine group, until "desertbob" and "bicycle" came along...
they then created about 10 fake usernames each, and have been bashing
American made cars here, for the last few weeks
on a Chrysler group...
go figure...
Steve
> Every once in a while I come to this NG to find information on a particular
> Chrysler product, and without fail there are at least 5 or 6 "diss" fights
> going on here. I am amazed that the good people in this group actually
> still allow this to go on.
The "dissing" is just one guy with a bunch of sock-puppets talking to
himself. Or maybe there really are a couple of them, each with several
pseudonyms- I really don't know or care.
Its happened before, this too shall pass when she/he/it gets bored.
Nothing the rest of us can really DO about it, other than sift through
and try to help people that genuinely need it (and hope others do the
same when we post questions).
DeserTBoB
>It was a fine group, until "desertbob" and "bicycle" came along... <snip>
This is the troll. If you look back at the history in this group
since August, you can see the chronology. I came in, started a thread
about an overheating problem, all was fine. Then, Charlie Nudo
stalked me in here and all hell broke loose. Another nutjob by the
name of Putney started chiming in with Nudo, and you have the current
situation.
Bill Putney
You can't hide history. I, along with many others, have been offering
genuine help to people here for years. The same can't be said of the
new arrival (DB) either in longevity or on offering any genuine help
whatsoever to others. He baits people just so he can get nasty. The
record speaks for itself. Like Steve said, there's really not much to
be done about it other than let it pass.
Bill Putney
showed up. Roughly 8 posts per day, and with 5 or 6 days with anywhere
from 17 to 30 worthless, intentionally disruptive, and nasty posts each
of those days. Out of the approximately 350 total posts, there may be
less than what you can count on one hand of any attempt at helping
anyone. The rest - more than 98% - are nothing but personal stories
unrelated to Chrylser vehicles in any way, baiting with loaded political
comments having nothing to do with the topic, and using any excuse to be
just plain nasty. That by anyone's definition is a troll.
Dave Gower
"Bill Putney" <bp...@kinez.net> wrote
>...The rest - more than 98% - are nothing but personal stories unrelated to
>Chrylser vehicles in any way, baiting with loaded political comments having
>nothing to do with the topic, and using any excuse to be just plain nasty.
>That by anyone's definition is a troll.
Also a severely disturbed, and very sad, loser.
DeserTBoB
<davegow.removethis.@magma.ca> wrote:
>Also a severely disturbed, and very sad, loser. <snip>
You, certainly, must be speaking of Charlie Nudo and yes, he is a
disturbed loser.
maxpower
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OUCH!!! even I felt that. I hope my kids never kick their ball into your
back yard Bill!! LOL
DeserTBoB
<damnni...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>OUCH!!! even I felt that. I hope my kids never kick their ball into your
>back yard Bill!! LOL <snip>
Never let your kids near trolls...especially ones who don't know fact
from fantasy, as seems to be the case with Mr. Putney.
Robbie and Laura Reynolds
Which part do you disagree with?
Joe
"David Thornton" <dtho...@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
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> particular Chrysler product, and without fail there are at least 5 or 6
> "diss" fights going on here. I am amazed that the good people in this
> group actually still allow this to go on.
>
"stalkers" (i'm sure the same person) who post in everything thread calling
the troll a troll. How do you stop a thing like that?
elkho...@yahoo.com
well said
elkho...@yahoo.com
actually, the record shows they were referring to YOU, DeserTBob
elkho...@yahoo.com
do what rec.guns and other groups do- start a moderated group- and all
the political BS that DeserTBob spews is simply filtered out
Steve
Bill Putney is a long-standing contributor to this group, we all know
who he is and he's no "nutjob." As for the rest of you.... never heard
of ya, and since you all arrived "together" the conclusion is obvious.
DeserTBoB
>Bill Putney is a long-standing contributor to this group, we all know
>who he is and he's no "nutjob." As for the rest of you.... never heard
>of ya, and since you all arrived "together" the conclusion is obvious. <snip>
Whatever. We didn't arrive "together." You also do not know how to
read or investigate an article header. "Noodles" tailed me in here
after I forgot to 'nym shift to a user name he didn't know. Once he
used Google's Usenet search engine to "troll" me, he showed up in here
and the trouble started. If you only took a second to look at
"Noodles'" article headers, you'd see all his posts eminate from
epix.net of Dallas, PA...right next door to his home town of Drums,
PA.
duty-honor-country
oh Boob, Boob, Boob...no one believes your pathetic lies...you were
outed as a troll, now suck it up, and go hide in the catecombs of
Usenet, you liberal scumbag...
stop posing as someone who knows mechanics...
Knifeblade_03
snip>
oh Boob, Boob, Boob...no one believes your pathetic lies...you were
outed as a troll, now suck it up, and go hide in the catecombs of
Usenet, you liberal scumbag...
stop posing as someone who knows mechanics...
>unsnip>
Very well, then, answer me this, do rear diff. drive vehicles have a vent
on the rear pig, or is it even needed?
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DeserTBoB
<Knifeblade...@no-mx.nodomain.com> wrote:
>Very well, then, answer me this, do rear diff. drive vehicles have a vent
>on the rear pig, or is it even needed? <snip>
Yes, and yes.
duty-honor-country
Knifeblade_03 wrote:
> snip>
>
> oh Boob, Boob, Boob...no one believes your pathetic lies...you were
> outed as a troll, now suck it up, and go hide in the catecombs of
> Usenet, you liberal scumbag...
>
> stop posing as someone who knows mechanics...
> >unsnip>
> Very well, then, answer me this, do rear diff. drive vehicles have a vent
> on the rear pig, or is it even needed?
all the cars I've worked on have a vent- otherwise you'll be pushing
oil past the outer axle seals, or front pinion seal/cover gasket
trannies have a vent too
hells bells, so do engines
so what's your point ?
duty-honor-country
DeserTBob has practically paralyzed the 8-track group with political
nonsense- what could the Dems ever do for him ?? send him his
disability check a week early ?
some life that guy has- take a look for yourself- he's a walking CNN
polly-parrot
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.collecting.8-track-tapes?lnk=li&hl=en
you'll also notice BICYCLE under a fake username, putting down someone
else's ebay name and neighborhood- due to his own jealousies...
perfect case for moderated newsgroups !
Dori A Schmetterling
DeserTBob says so, so it must be true... :-)
Interesting terminology...
DAS
For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling
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"Bill Putney" <bp...@kinez.net> wrote in message
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> DeserTBoB wrote:
>> On 27 Sep 2006 05:13:01 -0700, elkho...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>It was a fine group, until "desertbob" and "bicycle" came along... <snip>
[...]
Dori A Schmetterling
DAS
For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling
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"Bill Putney" <bp...@kinez.net> wrote in message
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[...]
>
>
> I agree with you 1000%.
[...]
duty-honor-country
Dori A Schmetterling wrote:
> Gosh, I didn't know you were a "nutjob".
>
> DeserTBob says so, so it must be true... :-)
>
> Interesting terminology...
>
> DAS
DeserTBob, aka DOUCHEBOB, couldn't describe his own bowel movement
accurately...
Joe
"duty-honor-country" <dutyhono...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I have got a question for you guys. Here lately I've been hearing the term
"nutswinger" between trolls, stalkers, folks like that. What's that mean?