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Sony 7509 headphones: Anyone else find them to be disappointing?

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Chad Clark

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Oct 18, 2002, 2:17:09 PM10/18/02
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Is this just me? Or are the 7509's not an improvement of the 7506's I
foolishly traded in to "move up." There's something about the low-end
that I've never been fully able to relate to. I don't know what it
is. I only use them as a last minute phase-and-stereo check, so it's
not a big deal. But it's kinda weird: I thought they would be like
the 7506's only better. But instead they're just... different.

I've been thinking about buying that Grace headphone amp to see if
there is marked improvement. Anyone using that thing? Comments?

I kinda miss my 7506's. Guess I'll just buy another pair...

--- c

WideGlide

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Oct 18, 2002, 3:47:53 PM10/18/02
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The 7506s seem to have that tight flat thing happening... not much low end
at all. Good for certain things, but... I have a few pairs of 7506s laying
around and also a few pairs of the typical AKG phones... the K240s or
whatever. The AKGs are less flat, but somehow they're just more pleasurable
to use. Seems that all musicians and audio guys that come around here try
both and wind up using the AKGs after asking me if I have anything better.

So... my question... for all purpose mix checking, editing, etc type of
work, where you wanna use a set of phones now and then, WHAT phones are most
recommended? I'm getting the feeling that 7506s are so popular because the
big retailers merely saturated the market with them.... seems like the 7506s
are the "NS-10s" of the headphone world. I am not really so thrilled with
them personally. They work, they're ok, they have their thing... but I
crave something "better". I have very little experience with headphones.
Tried a few "hi-fi" consumer models one time, thought they all sucked badly.

So what's your favorite phones for all purpose mixing / editing studio use?
(Not tracking use... I've already built custom phones for that purpose.)
Not so concerned about the ultimate in "flatness", but more concerned with
getting something that is comfortable, good wide overall frequency response,
detailed highs, and existing but not ridiculously hyped low end. Something
simply good.

thanks - wg


YBStudios

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Oct 18, 2002, 5:31:34 PM10/18/02
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>So... my question... for all purpose mix checking, editing, etc type of
>work, where you wanna use a set of phones now and then, WHAT phones are most
>recommended?

For tracking, I use either ATHM40's or 7506's, ocassionaly AKG240DF.

For mix, editing, etc I use Tannoy PBM6.5's. I know they're bulky, but sitting
on a table, they fit my ears better. I've never been able to effectively use
headphones for mixing, etc.

Wayne

Kurt Albershardt

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Oct 18, 2002, 5:50:37 PM10/18/02
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WideGlide wrote:
>
> So what's your favorite phones for all purpose mixing / editing studio use?
> (Not tracking use... I've already built custom phones for that purpose.)
> Not so concerned about the ultimate in "flatness", but more concerned with
> getting something that is comfortable, good wide overall frequency response,
> detailed highs, and existing but not ridiculously hyped low end. Something
> simply good.

I've used Sennheiser HD-600s (driven by a proper amp) for years and have
come to know and trust them. They're also quite comfortable, but of
course no isolation capabilities. I wouldn't mix on any phones unless I
were doing a binaural production but I do occasionally use them to check
a mix detail or listen to a particular edit looking for artifacts.

I think you can develop an ability to work on any decent pair of
'phones, given enough experience and repeated reality checks with other
monitoring systems. What matters is that you can do what you need to do
repeatably with the ones you choose.

I recently bought a couple pairs of HD-280 Pro's and am (slowly) coming
to terms with them as well. I used DT48's for years but the head
pressure, hair pinching, weight, and cost made me look at alternatives
when I returned to field production. One of ther requirements there is
that the pair you get used to should be something you can reasonably
expect to have available or rent in a foreign environment, should you be
dropped into one.

Fingerz88D

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Oct 20, 2002, 9:59:23 AM10/20/02
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I had the same exact experience as you, Chad. I felt that, rather than
revealing more low end frequencies, the 7509s introduced them. Definitely glad
I brought them back after a few days and switched back the the good ol' 7506!

'Ol 88'
Why all the scuttle-butt?

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