Going/Moving to Austin
Patric D'Eimon
intention of moving there. It would be great to hear about the
audio/recording community in general.
It would be great to check out some studios and maybe chat with some folks
and see what is going on.
Also interested in the acoustic Folk/Pop scene there.
Also interested in Texas Barbecue.
Thanks for any info you gots...
Patric Doyle
"A" Street Audio Production
Anchorage, AK
907.279.6900
David Morgan (MAMS)
that you and Kurt had the market sewn up...
Can you tell me what you're planning to do with your facility?
Thanks, luck, & maybe I'll see you around....
--
David Morgan (MAMS)
http://www.m-a-m-s DOT com
Morgan Audio Media Service
Dallas, Texas (214) 662-9901
_______________________________________
http://www.artisan-recordingstudio.com
"Patric D'Eimon" <patricRE...@gci.net> wrote in message news:BD3A6E99.FB3C%patricRE...@gci.net...
ScotFraser
intention of moving there. >>
Man, why would anybody want to leave Anchorage?!
Scott Fraser
Patric D'Eimon
ma...@NOSPAm-a-m-s.com wrote on 8/7/04 2:04 PM:
> You know, I almost moved to Alaska three years ago, but it appeared
> that you and Kurt had the market sewn up...
>
> Can you tell me what you're planning to do with your facility?
>
> Thanks, luck, & maybe I'll see you around....
Well, Kurt may have it all sew up. He has since I've been here. I have
dropped out of commercial production and have just been using the studio for
myself.
Moving is just a possibility. I've been here 23 years. Kids are out of
school. Might be nice to be somewhere else. Alaska is incredible, I have
alot of roots here. I can always come back.
I own my space outright. I would probably take most of the equipment with
me. Ya know, a pretty powerful get-up can have a fairly small footprint
these days.
Just peeking over my horizons. Patric
Patric D'Eimon
scotf...@aol.com wrote on 8/7/04 9:36 PM:
Hey Scott. I've been here a long time. A change might do me good. I could
probably stand some Texas sun. I could also stand to be closer to a music
scene like Austin for awhile. I went to HS in Fort Worth and I grew to love
Texas.
Alaska is pretty much a country all unto it's self. I like that. Texas I
think is more like a Banana Republic that a state. I like that. Ha!
Patric
neil.he...@sbcglobal.netnospam
LOL And due to their isolation from the rest of the state, some cities in
Texas (El Paso, Midland/Odessa) are like a banana republic unto themselves!
--
Neil Henderson
Saqqara Records
http://www.saqqararecords.com
ScotFraser
think is more like a Banana Republic that a state. I like that. >>
Yup. I've spent a good amount of time in Alaska on gigs & recording projects. I
know Anchorage well enough to know it's a pretty ugly city, but cities are not
what Alaska is about. If you are outside of the city limits it can be
unbeatable.
Scott Fraser
David Morgan (MAMS)
"Patric D'Eimon" <patricRE...@gci.net> wrote in message news:BD3C64C6.1034A%patricRE...@gci.net...
If you're wanting to stay in the business, you'll find a studio on every corner,
in every rehearsal hall, and in most decent nightclubs. I've talked to an awful
lot of touring players (after spending 18 years in the oldest live music room in
Dallas), and the concensus seems to be that live, about 10% of the operators
actually know what they are doing and the 'talk' market is cheap. There are a
boatload of very fine studios there and some really super engineers, but the
state of the home recording business has put a lot of folks either out of the
market or dwindled them down to owner-operator status. When I was looking
to make a move, I asked everyone I could find in Anchorage (three of you that
were well known) and everyone I knew of repute in Austin, and all agreed....
if there was a place for me in the studio, it would be because of the amount
of business I could bring. Apparently, there is no such thing as 'overflow' any
more. I personally couldn't leave the clients that put food on my table to start
all over as a stranger somewhere. I'm not much in the BS department any
more.
All that gloom and doom aside, I'll be glad to help you any way I can.
S I T...
Patric D'Eimon
ma...@NOSPAm-a-m-s.com wrote on 8/9/04 6:20 PM:
Thanks for the report. I pretty much figured it that way. I gave up on
owning a competing studio some time ago. I am concentrating on songwriting
these days. That is what I use my system for.
It may be that I can still accomplish what I want to accomplish from here in
Anchorage. However, I'm trying to be open to being somewhere else. I'll
check out Austin.
About Anchorage. I was in SF a week ago. Seattle before that and NYC
recently. I really appreciate Anchorage each time I get back. We are
having a stunning Summer. Warm and sunny every day. YeeHaa!
I'll probably get to Dallas on this trip. If you are open to it and give me
a number I'd love to see what you are doing there.
Take care...Patric
ScotFraser
recently. I really appreciate Anchorage each time I get back. We are
having a stunning Summer. Warm and sunny every day. >>
Yeah. I've spent most of the summer in San Fancisco, & the few minutes each day
that I'm not in the studio have all been totally enshrouded in fog, & very
cold. I've never been so glad to get back to LA, a crappy place to visit but a
good place to live.
Scott Fraser
Michael
patricRE...@gci.net says...
> It may be that I can still accomplish what I want to accomplish from here in
> Anchorage. However, I'm trying to be open to being somewhere else. I'll
> check out Austin.
Austin ain't what it used to be. Most of the personality
of the town is now missing, thanks to greedy politicians and
politically correct nonsense. There's lots of studios around,
not as many places to play as there used to be, and hundreds
of bad garage bands. Everybody and their mother has a studio
in their house now, thanks to Cakewalk , M-Audio, and whoever
else.
I've seen a lot of closing sales for studios in the past
couple of years. A lot of nightclubs that were institutions
are now gone. We call ourselves the "Live Music Capitol of
the World", and then the cops hassle the musicians trying to
load up equipment after the clubs close on 6th street.
Good luck, but Austin's just another big town nowadays, it
seems...
---Michael (of APP)...
David Morgan (MAMS)
"Patric D'Eimon" <patricRE...@gci.net> wrote in message...
> > All that gloom and doom aside, I'll be glad to help you any way I can.
> Thanks for the report. I pretty much figured it that way. I gave up on
> owning a competing studio some time ago. I am concentrating on songwriting
> these days. That is what I use my system for.
I'd be willing to bet there's a good deal of commercial, A-2 or A / V stuff happening
in an area like that... I know a couple of folks who push slide projectors or a simple
speech set ups (hotels, etc.) and make decent shift pay; keeps them close to the
business.
> It may be that I can still accomplish what I want to accomplish from here in
> Anchorage. However, I'm trying to be open to being somewhere else. I'll
> check out Austin.
About ten years ago, the local media writers and publicists were calling
Austin, "The Third Coast". It developed a few 'festival'-like annual events
and caught a small place on the map. There *is* opportunity. Personally,
I always made fun of the whole "3rd Coast" routine - it always seemed as
nothing much more than a tourist enhancing, carnival-like atmosphere that
wreaked havok on small streets and leaft a few thousand people (including
performers) wandering around saying... "WTF!"
> About Anchorage. I was in SF a week ago. Seattle before that and NYC
> recently. I really appreciate Anchorage each time I get back. We are
> having a stunning Summer. Warm and sunny every day. YeeHaa!
Oh, I see... at best I assume you mean that the sun is up and some
lower altitude snow has melted. <g>
> I'll probably get to Dallas on this trip
I'll drop you an e-mail.
DM
David Morgan (MAMS)
"ScotFraser" <scotf...@aol.com> wrote in message...
> I've never been so glad to get back to LA, a crappy place to visit but a
> good place to live.
I've got some photos (from my time there in the mid 70s) taken while
driving up Hillhurst Blvd not far after leaving the freeway, illustrating a
maximum ground level visibility of a little over two blocks. I haven't
been able to acquaint LA with a nice place to live ever since then.
Besides... aren't you worried about falling off into the water? <g>
DM
ScotFraser
driving up Hillhurst Blvd not far after leaving the freeway, illustrating a
maximum ground level visibility of a little over two blocks. I haven't
been able to acquaint LA with a nice place to live ever since then.>>
I'm looking out across my deck, past the pines & palms, to the lights sparkling
on top of Mt Wilson, about 15 miles in the distance. When it's nice, it's very
nice.
Of course, when it sucks, it sucks very badly.
<<Besides... aren't you worried about falling off into the water? <g> >>
Nah, I'm always out on tour when the earthquakes hit.
Scott Fraser
Logan Shaw
> About ten years ago, the local media writers and publicists were calling
> Austin, "The Third Coast". It developed a few 'festival'-like annual events
> and caught a small place on the map. There *is* opportunity. Personally,
> I always made fun of the whole "3rd Coast" routine - it always seemed as
> nothing much more than a tourist enhancing, carnival-like atmosphere that
That, and combined with the whole "we aren't Silicon Valley, but
we're the Silicon Hills" schtick also done (supposedly) in favor
of Austin, the two of them sound kind of like, "Hey, we do that
too! Don't forget about us!". In other words, if you have to
SAY that you are a hot place for something, then maybe you are not
that hot a place for it.
On the other hand, there seems to be a fair amount of both music
and computer stuff in Austin, so it's not really a totally made-up
idea either.
- Logan
Chris Hornbeck
<lshaw-...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>On the other hand, there seems to be a fair amount of both music
>and computer stuff in Austin, so it's not really a totally made-up
>idea either.
And from waaaay out here in Little Rock, it still looks pretty
hot shit.
Chris Hornbeck
hank alrich
> About ten years ago, the local media writers and publicists were calling
> Austin, "The Third Coast".
That was actually happening before AWHQ closed on the first day of 1981.
Some of the core of that bowel movement liked to sit surrounded by
pricey dark wood paneling smoking expensive cigars in fancy offices,
touting their movie business, which wasn't happening much. But they'd
seen enough movies to know what success in the movie biz was supposed to
look like on TV.
--
ha
hank alrich
> Austin ain't what it used to be. Most of the personality
> of the town is now missing, thanks to greedy politicians and
> politically correct nonsense. There's lots of studios around,
> not as many places to play as there used to be, and hundreds
> of bad garage bands. Everybody and their mother has a studio
> in their house now, thanks to Cakewalk , M-Audio, and whoever
> else.
> I've seen a lot of closing sales for studios in the past
> couple of years. A lot of nightclubs that were institutions
> are now gone. We call ourselves the "Live Music Capitol of
> the World", and then the cops hassle the musicians trying to
> load up equipment after the clubs close on 6th street.
> Good luck, but Austin's just another big town nowadays, it
> seems...
Austin still has a strong artistic crowd and serious cultural bent but
selfcentered greediness, the calling card of the "ME" generation, is
rampant, and civilization struggles in the face of ignorance. (I think
much of this will appear in nice perspective when Eddie Wilson's tome
about Armadillo World Headquarters, the precursors engergies to it, and
subsequent cultural and political developments hits the stands next
year.)
Meantime, if you're in Austin, the South Austin Museum of Popular
Culture, 1516 South Lamar Blvd., currently has a Jim Franklin (JFKLN)
show up for looks, and it's a worthy gander.
--
ha
hank alrich
> On the other hand, there seems to be a fair amount of both music
> and computer stuff in Austin, so it's not really a totally made-up
> idea either.
Austin is where the coastal plain meets the Balcones escarpment; that's
an energy confluence and the place has been into music and dancing since
before it was even fully founded.
--
ha
David Morgan (MAMS)
"hank alrich" <walk...@thegrid.net> wrote in message news:1gig8l7.1hxekonpsx8cuN%walk...@thegrid.net...
Ah well, I always have been just a little out of step....
DM
Cerion
> Austin still has a strong artistic crowd and serious cultural bent but
> selfcentered greediness, the calling card of the "ME" generation, is
> rampant, and civilization struggles in the face of ignorance.
Gimme a break, man! :-P
You've just described the American psyche.
Austin does seem to have artists, musicians, and creative types per capita
than many other cities it's size. The climate and allergens kind of suck
here, but then I hear Portland or Seattle or New York have their share of
crummy weather and ambiance...
Lots of dot commers & yuppies invaded Austin in the 90's and the creative
and soulful vestiges of Austin were kind of fed into the Great American Mass
Mediocrity Meat grinder just as it has been in everywhere else in Unmerica.
Predictably, real-estate inflation, urban blight and the ensuing demise and
dispersion of the creative class ensued.
I like the climate better in Kingman Arizona. I like remote areas with
peace and natural beauty. Ain't no culture in those places though, and
scarcely any employment opportunities. So, creative people often gravitate
to cities... Cities with healthy artistic communities also have their share
of yuppies, corporate franchises, Wallmart and yes, even (yeeech)
politicians. Austin has lots 'O' those. :-)
Skidder
Mike Rivers
> I like the climate better in Kingman Arizona. I like remote areas with
> peace and natural beauty. Ain't no culture in those places though, and
> scarcely any employment opportunities. So, creative people often gravitate
> to cities... Cities with healthy artistic communities also have their share
> of yuppies, corporate franchises, Wallmart and yes, even (yeeech)
> politicians. Austin has lots 'O' those. :-)
Don't forget money, too.
--
I'm really Mike Rivers (mri...@d-and-d.com)
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me here: double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo
Cerion
Mike Rivers <mri...@d-and-d.com> wrote in message
news:znr1092791013k@trad...
>
> In article <cfu6f6$4si$1...@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> eee...@notmail.com writes:
>
> > I like the climate better in Kingman Arizona. I like remote areas with
> > peace and natural beauty. Ain't no culture in those places though, and
> > scarcely any employment opportunities. So, creative people often
gravitate
> > to cities... Cities with healthy artistic communities also have their
share
> > of yuppies, corporate franchises, Wallmart and yes, even (yeeech)
> > politicians. Austin has lots 'O' those. :-)
>
> Don't forget money, too.
Oh yeah.... $$$ :-]
Cerion
some tracks. Noticeable tape his when listening on headphones too.
I agree with the other post suggesting that Elliot may have simply used a
58, but who knows? It's hard to say unless you've heard the persons voice
for real.
I also wonder if he didn't have something quite a bit better than a 4 track
cassette though, maybe a Tascam 38 or something like that. Still, my
friend Dave has made many 4 track recordings that surpass anything you could
imagine coming out of such a crude format, especially bass and percussion.
Considering Smith's style and the way he poured his guts out the way he did
with his lyrics, a fancy digital recording would probably have sucked.
To me Elliot Smith's recordings are in line with Zen philosophy: They are
flawed, but the imperfect dimension is very artfully and expressively
manipulated.
Skler
jim andrews
walk...@thegrid.net says...
> Meantime, if you're in Austin, the South Austin Museum of Popular
> Culture, 1516 South Lamar Blvd., currently has a Jim Franklin (JFKLN)
> show up for looks, and it's a worthy gander.
I'm embarassed to admit that I've lived in Austin since 1985, and I've
never heard of this place. What is it?
jim andrews
four/four records, llc
Cerion
I don't think it's been there that long.
They have some cool poster art there from the Armadillo World Headquarters
daze...
Skler
Cerion
hank alrich <walk...@thegrid.net> wrote in message
news:1gig8l7.1hxekonpsx8cuN%walk...@thegrid.net...
Yep, that "Third Coast" business was a load of bull and still is.
A handful of business stiffs and politicians can't manipulate economics and
culture to the point of engineering another Hollywood.
It's silly. If anything, in spite of the ongoing influx of musical and
artistic talent, people who continue to make Austin their home and
intermingling grounds, the local mirror junkies have actually served to
alienate creative culture & undermine popular artistic venues whenever
possible. e.g. recent episode in which well to doers who built condos right
next to the club district nearly destroyed the music scene by passing an
absurdly unrealistic and uninformed sound ordinance. Protest ensued and the
ordinance was altered to reflect reality, but such encroachments will likely
continue. It's a constant struggle where by way of creative will & good
spirits, artists and their patrons manage to exert enough pressure to keep
an integral part of the soul essence of the city flowing in the face of
soulless swarms of tailored suits and hermetically sealed luxury sedans.
:-P
Skleek
hank alrich
> walkinay says...
> > Meantime, if you're in Austin, the South Austin Museum of Popular
> > Culture, 1516 South Lamar Blvd., currently has a Jim Franklin (JFKLN)
> > show up for looks, and it's a worthy gander.
> I'm embarassed to admit that I've lived in Austin since 1985, and I've
> never heard of this place. What is it?
It's a new collection of old artists from the
Vulcan/AWHQ/Ritz/Sheauxnough crowd, currently hanging JFKLN's exhibit,
likely to do a Gilbert Shelton show later, and more. Lots of groovy old
Austin graphics work, photos of music scenery, etc. Leah Mechling is
herding the artists toward inadvertent success on one level or another
(she was my front line administrative assistant when I assumed command
of the hot seat @ AWHQ in '76).
South Austin Museum of Popular Culture
1516 South Lamar
ph: 440-8318 direct: 698-7303
<http://www.samopc.com>
Hint: it adjoins the S. Lamar Planet K store (in case you want a pipe or
a dildo along with your popular culture).
--
ha
hank alrich
> in the face of
> soulless swarms of tailored suits and hermetically sealed luxury sedans.
I'm thinking cynaoacycrilate could help, from the outside, with the
sealing.
--
ha
Cerion
> > in the face of
> > soulless swarms of tailored suits and hermetically sealed luxury sedans.
>
> I'm thinking cynaoacycrilate could help, from the outside, with the
> sealing.
:-)