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Sep 20, 2012, 4:56:07 PM9/20/12
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How Showrunners Plan to Jolt Their Season-Two Comedies on the Brink
By Josef Adalian and Denise Martin

Among last year�s new comedies, there are two clear poles: the hits
that are returning for season two with sturdy fan bases (2 Broke
Girls, New Girl, and Suburgatory) and the failures that were quickly
canceled and forgotten, not necessarily in that order (Man Up, Are You
There, Chelsea, Work It, etc.). But in between these two extremes of
the comedy class of 2011 sits a trio of shows that teeter in limbo
between the states. NBC�s Up All Night and Whitney and ABC�s Don�t
Trust the B in Apt. 23 all got renewals for season two, but with a far
less definitive mandate; the networks decided that their creative and
Nielsen potential was worth another bet, but one senses that their
future is dependent on seeing improvement this year. Are the producers
intent on tweaking their formulas for season two? We called the
showrunners of all three shows and asked them to discuss what worked
last season, what didn't click � and how they plan to make certain
their sophomore seasons aren't their last. (Oh, and if you're
wondering why we didn't include Tim Allen's Last Man Standing, well:
You must be new to Vulture.)

Up All Night (returns Thursday at 8:30 p.m.)

Season-One Story: Up All Night, starring Christina Applegate and Will
Arnett as new parents, started out last fall as a glimmer of sitcom
hope for NBC. Initially airing Wednesdays at 8 p.m., the Lorne
Michaels�produced show (created and produced by SNL alum Spivey) was a
self-starter on a night where NBC had no recent comedy track record;
its early ratings performance among viewers under 50 was actually
stronger than some of the network's established Thursday shows. NBC
eventually decided to try to capitalize on that Nielsen momentum
(though perhaps a bit too slowly) by shifting the series to Thursdays.
But instead of its numbers going up, they went down, causing one
Peacock exec to privately complain to Vulture that NBC's Thursday was
now seen as so niche that "Even when we move broader shows to the
night, they lose viewers." Yet through it all, Up maintained a core
audience, and once DVR data was figured in, it actually ended up
drawing bigger overall ratings last season than 30 Rock and Parks and
Recreation.

Season-Two Changes: Series creator Emily Spivey knows what you thought
of Up All Night�s first-season schizophrenia, as the show bounced back
and forth from being about once-footloose adults adjusting to
parenthood to a backstage comedy about life on an Oprah-like talk
show, Ava, where Applegate�s Reagan worked as a producer for her
self-obsessed best friend/host (Maya Rudolph). "The simple home
stories butted up against the scope of daytime talk show. It felt like
two different shows,� she says. �We enjoyed both. But in the final
product, it was two different worlds." This season, one of the worlds
have been blown up: Ava has been canceled, and Reagan is now a
stay-at-home mom, so the focus is now strictly on her and Chris (Will
Arnett) managing parenthood. "I always felt that the heart of the show
[was] about a cool couple having a baby," Spivey says. (The
cancelation doesn�t mean that Rudolph is off the show, mind you.
Thanks to the magic of TV logic, the unemployed, childphobic Ava will
now have more time to spend with Reagan and Chris, a former lawyer who
is now running his own small construction business.) "We get to see
all of them on new paths of struggle," Spivey says. However, just
because the show will be more about their home life doesn�t mean the
baby will be front and center: Spivey cautions that viewers shouldn�t
expect an update of Full House. "What didn't make me laugh last season
was when the show was super baby-centric," Spivey admits. A season one
episode set at Gymboree had some funny moments, "but that was the
opposite of what I wanted to do" with Up, she says. "I want this to be
a show about how a baby affects a couple."

Whitney (returns Friday, October 19)

Season-One Story: Deserved or not, there was no bigger punching bag to
come out of last season than Whitney, a semi-autobiographical series
about creator-star Whitney Cummings, a hot comedian with a potty mouth
and plenty of opinions about modern relationships. In a season of
acerbic female comedies riding the Bridesmaids wave (2 Broke Girls,
also produced by Cummings, Don�t Trust the B, and Are You There,
Chelsea?), critics immediately singled out Whitney for swinging too
traditional, with complaints ranging from the show�s familiar, tired
sitcom setups to an extra-loud �laugh track� (that turned out to just
be an overly enthusiastic live audience). But after bloggers and
recappers wrote it off but continued to use it as a reflexive
punchline, Whitney quietly turned into something different: The
relationship between Whitney and her boyfriend Alex (Chris D�Elia)
began feeling real and not just the thing in which to situate the girl
who swears off marriage because she isn�t that girl. The jokes slowed
down a little, the plots became less schticky. �They�ve done a really
good job digging into who those characters are,� NBC entertainment
prez Bob Greenblatt said in July, and while his decision to renew the
show surprised industry watchers, the truth about Whitney is that it
was not an outright flop (like Up All Night, it outperformed both 30
Rock and Community and even tied Parks and Recreation among
18�49-year-olds, even while the second half of its season aired
opposite ratings kingpin American Idol. NBC sister network E!,
meanwhile, remains so high on Cummings that they�re giving her a talk
show, Love You, Mean It, premiering in November.)

Season-Two Changes: Cummings has said that she was frustrated by the
network�s initial marketing of the show, which made it seem like it
was about a character who was �every man�s worst fucking nightmare.�
This year, she wants to make clear that Mad About You is her template.
That means, Whitney and Alex�s friends will further fade into the
background (the show has even released Maulik Pancholy back to 30
Rock) so there is even more focus on the couple, who tattooed �I Do�
on their ribs last season. Says Cummings: �We�re in it forever now and
there�s no option to leave. We�re two honey badgers in a cage.� More
earnestly, though, she says the changes to the show mean �not being
afraid of pathos.� Cummings pointed to comedies like Modern Family
�that really stick with you because they aren�t afraid of getting to
the truth and to the more emotional things. Mad About You and
Roseanne, I mean, I used to cry at the end of Roseanne � We�re very
interested in doing a show that matters, not just a romp. You can find
comedy anywhere all the time. You can go on YouTube right now and
watch a panda farting on a baby.� As for her show�s move to Friday
nights, Cummings looks at it as permission to stir the pot (though she
was mum when asked for specifics). �We�re doing some stuff that I feel
like first year I wouldn�t have been able to get past the network. I�m
actually thinking the network doesn�t even read the scripts we send
them. I look forward to the lawsuits.�

Don't Trust the B in Apt. 23 (returns Oct. 23 at 9:30 p.m.)

Season-One Story: Unlike the previous two shows, which had
definitively promising returns in their first seasons, Don�t Trust the
B still needs to prove itself after only airing seven episodes last
spring (the remaining six that never aired will kick off season two).
�We're the babiest second year show you can be," says creator and exec
producer Nahnatchka Khan. (We're including it on this list mostly
because its mini-run in April and May was inconclusive: Airing behind
Modern Family, the show performed on a par with previous timeslot
occupants Happy Endings and Cougar Town, slightly improving its
timeslot vs. year-ago averages.)

Season-Two Changes: Khan and fellow show runner Dave Hemingson say ABC
execs haven't asked for major creative tweaks to the comedy about
mismatched roommates, one uptight, one scary-crazy; if anything, the
plan is to double down on the over-the-top humor. "We're not going to
water down anything," Hemingson says. Viewers seem to like the fact
that Krysten Ritter's character doesn't shy from making it clear what
the �B� stands for. "It's given us the courage and confidence to write
the character as strongly as we did" before, he says. That doesn't
mean the nine new episodes being filmed for season two won't feature
some changes. For one thing, Khan says there will be "less of the
serialized stuff" in storylines ("It has to be done judiciously,"
Hemingson explains). And while meta James Van Der Beek will still have
his own celebrity adventures (including a plot to become People's
Sexiest Man Alive), he'll now spend more time with Ritter's B and
roomie June (Dreama Walker). "We're making him more involved in their
lives and vice versa," she says. And we'll also see other characters'
universes expand: Ray Carter's smart-ass assistant will now be a
series regular, while neighbor Robin (Liza Lapira) will pop up more
frequently. Viewers can also expect to see the evolution of
sex-starved neighbor Eli (Michael Blaiklock): "He started off as a guy
jerking off in the window," Khan says. "That gets a little boring, so
we're going to move him away from that."

The biggest challenge for B, of course, is the one the show's
producers can't control: Instead of airing behind top-rated Modern
Family, their show will air Tuesdays at 9:30, behind the
buzzy-but-not-spectacularly-rated Happy Endings � and against highly
hyped frosh comedies The Mindy Project and The New Normal. The good
news is that ABC's expectations for the Happy�B combo will be modest,
perhaps giving B what it needs most if it's going to find long-term
success: time.

Ian J. Ball

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Sep 21, 2012, 12:36:59 AM9/21/12
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In article <ji0n5851cd4j9fpl0...@4ax.com>,
David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> http://www.vulture.com/2012/09/comedy-showrunners-talk-season-two-changes.html
>
> How Showrunners Plan to Jolt Their Season-Two Comedies on the Brink
> By Josef Adalian and Denise Martin
>
> ...But in between these two extremes of
> the comedy class of 2011 sits a trio of shows that teeter in limbo
> between the states. NBC’s Up All Night and Whitney and ABC’s Don’t
> Trust the B in Apt. 23 all got renewals for season two, but with a far
> less definitive mandate; the networks decided that their creative and
> Nielsen potential was worth another bet, but one senses that their
> future is dependent on seeing improvement this year. Are the producers
> intent on tweaking their formulas for season two? We called the
> showrunners of all three shows and asked them to discuss what worked
> last season, what didn't click — and how they plan to make certain
> their sophomore seasons aren't their last. (Oh, and if you're
> wondering why we didn't include Tim Allen's Last Man Standing, well:
> You must be new to Vulture.)

What is this last bit supposed to mean?...

--
"Surf-crazed aliens... Of course." - Amber, "Alien Surf Girls",
Episode #1.1, "Wipeout".
Wait a minute... "Of course"?! "*Of course*"?!! Did I miss a step here??!!

icebreaker

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Sep 21, 2012, 8:30:30 AM9/21/12
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"Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote in message
news:ijball-NO_SPAM-07D...@news.eternal-september.org...
> In article <ji0n5851cd4j9fpl0...@4ax.com>,
> David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> http://www.vulture.com/2012/09/comedy-showrunners-talk-season-two-changes.html
>>
>> How Showrunners Plan to Jolt Their Season-Two Comedies on the Brink
>> By Josef Adalian and Denise Martin
>>
>> ...But in between these two extremes of
>> the comedy class of 2011 sits a trio of shows that teeter in limbo
>> between the states. NBC's Up All Night and Whitney and ABC's Don't
>> Trust the B in Apt. 23 all got renewals for season two, but with a far
>> less definitive mandate; the networks decided that their creative and
>> Nielsen potential was worth another bet, but one senses that their
>> future is dependent on seeing improvement this year. Are the producers
>> intent on tweaking their formulas for season two? We called the
>> showrunners of all three shows and asked them to discuss what worked
>> last season, what didn't click - and how they plan to make certain
>> their sophomore seasons aren't their last. (Oh, and if you're
>> wondering why we didn't include Tim Allen's Last Man Standing, well:
>> You must be new to Vulture.)
>
> What is this last bit supposed to mean?...

She hates the show and doesn't think it should be on the air. Here's the
first paragraph of her review of the 1st episode:

"Tim Allen's Last Man Standing premiered last night, wringing every precious
molecule of humor from the dry, dry well of misogyny, homophobia,
xenophobia, and the profound hatred of change (well, at least until Work It
wrings some more). Ugh, men today - they bathe themselves, and use such
villainous, gay-making products like "hair gel" and "citrus body wash." At
least at Allen's outdoorsy workplace, it "smells like balls," which is a
relief."

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David

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Sep 21, 2012, 9:58:57 AM9/21/12
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 21:36:59 -0700, "Ian J. Ball"
<ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:

>In article <ji0n5851cd4j9fpl0...@4ax.com>,
> David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> http://www.vulture.com/2012/09/comedy-showrunners-talk-season-two-changes.html
>>
>> How Showrunners Plan to Jolt Their Season-Two Comedies on the Brink
>> By Josef Adalian and Denise Martin
>>
>> ...But in between these two extremes of
>> the comedy class of 2011 sits a trio of shows that teeter in limbo
>> between the states. NBC’s Up All Night and Whitney and ABC’s Don’t
>> Trust the B in Apt. 23 all got renewals for season two, but with a far
>> less definitive mandate; the networks decided that their creative and
>> Nielsen potential was worth another bet, but one senses that their
>> future is dependent on seeing improvement this year. Are the producers
>> intent on tweaking their formulas for season two? We called the
>> showrunners of all three shows and asked them to discuss what worked
>> last season, what didn't click — and how they plan to make certain
>> their sophomore seasons aren't their last. (Oh, and if you're
>> wondering why we didn't include Tim Allen's Last Man Standing, well:
>> You must be new to Vulture.)
>
>What is this last bit supposed to mean?...

They think they're better than it!

Ian J. Ball

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Sep 21, 2012, 3:59:59 PM9/21/12
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In article <k3hml9$9td$1...@dont-email.me>,
Cool - this is a website I can avoid from henceforth, in perpetuity.
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