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Niki

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Oct 17, 2009, 11:47:59 AM10/17/09
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Puke, puke, puke. Enough already.
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Niki

record hunter

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Oct 17, 2009, 11:53:15 AM10/17/09
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Was he somehow "super" yesterday? I completely forgot to watch.

Niki

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Oct 18, 2009, 11:47:35 PM10/18/09
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record hunter wrote:
> On Oct 17, 11:47 am, Niki <nikib...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Puke, puke, puke. Enough already.

> Was he somehow "super" yesterday? I completely forgot to watch.

Yup. He just seems to be bullet-proof. It's disgusting.

I'm gonna have to start not watching again. He just ruins the whole
show, not that it needs any help.
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Tony Cianfaglione

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Oct 19, 2009, 12:47:08 AM10/19/09
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On Sun, 18 Oct 2009, Niki wrote:

> Yup. He just seems to be bullet-proof. It's disgusting.
> I'm gonna have to start not watching again. He just ruins the whole
> show, not that it needs any help.

I was thinking that he must have a great driver. He went from the
office, to the ranch way out in the country, back to Brad's house in the
city, where Sharon is, and back to the office in almost no time flat.

...or maybe he didn't use his driver and he 'flew' all that way. Gee,
that really WOULD make him Super Adam.

Diva

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Oct 19, 2009, 8:18:34 AM10/19/09
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On Oct 19, 12:47 am, Tony Cianfaglione <ab...@chebucto.ns.ca> wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Oct 2009, Niki wrote:
> > Yup. He just seems to be bullet-proof. It's disgusting.
> > I'm gonna have to start not watching again. He just ruins the whole
> > show, not that it needs any help.
>
>    I was thinking that he must have a great driver.  He went from the
> office, to the ranch way out in the country, back to Brad's house in the
> city, where Sharon is, and back to the office in almost no time flat.
>
Look, up in the air. It's a bird, it's a plane. It's Adam's driver.

Diva

Niki

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Oct 19, 2009, 10:11:35 AM10/19/09
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Good point. He does get around quickly for being blind, even if driven
by someone else. And he does seem to be able to "see" when it's
convenient. His character is just beyond ridiculous at this point.
Everything with him is so contrived and unrealistic.

Did his bottom line motive ever come out? He seems to be so evil for no
apparent reason. I don't remember anyone setting out to harm him
intentionally. His family doesn't like him due to his own shenanigans.
Why is he like he is? He's downright hateful.

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Niki

Niki

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Oct 19, 2009, 10:24:24 AM10/19/09
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Diva wrote:

> Look, up in the air. It's a bird, it's a plane. It's Adam's driver.

That makes me curious. Have we ever actually seen Adam in the car with
the driver? I don't remember, then again, when it's on, I mostly listen
not watch.

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Niki

record hunter

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Oct 19, 2009, 10:43:30 AM10/19/09
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I only remember a little.

None of the Newmans was particularly nice to Adam when he came to GC.
He was in charge of the company when Victor was declared dead in
Mexico. His first action of business was to fire Neil. I don't think
Nick was at Newman at the time, but rather at Restless Style with
Phyllis (and I think Jack and Sharon). I don't remember what Victoria
was doing at the time.

Anyway, Victor *wasn't* dead. He came back and when he saw what Adam
had done to NE, he not only fired him, he blackballed him from getting
work anywhere. This played out over a reasonably long period. Then
Jack appeared and offered Adam a chance to help Jack get even with
Victor. They would forge a diary in which Victor admitted to killing
Walter Palin, who was responsible for Sabrina's death.

At first, Adam declined, and then, in a single, very jarring episode,
Nick and Vick both dissed Adam to the point where he felt he *had* to
take revenge, so Adam decided he *would* join forces with Jack. Jack
and Adam went down to Mexico, then created the diary in sessions at a
motel room in GC. What I can't remember is exactly how the idea of
forging the diary came about. I think someone found it at the ranch.
Eventually, there was a forger involved. There was the McGuffin of a
tape, IIRC. Victor ended up in jail. The forger was also in jail.

It eventually came to light that Victor was innocent, and Adam ended
up in jail for forging the diary. He has wanted vengeance on Victor
ever since.

This is just a rough outline. I imagine Tony C. will be able to fill
in everything I have forgotten.

record hunter

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Oct 19, 2009, 10:44:18 AM10/19/09
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Now, you know the only reason people get in a car in a soap opera is
if the car is going to crash.

Niki

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Oct 19, 2009, 12:21:56 PM10/19/09
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record hunter wrote:
[back story snipped]

> This is just a rough outline. I imagine Tony C. will be able to fill
> in everything I have forgotten.

Thanks RH. I appreciate that info. I have watched sporadically in the
last few years. I still don't understand Adam's evil doings and anger.
He had it made. Then again, Victor has been ugly with Nick and Vicki in
the past too. I just find the things Adam is doing at this point
unforgiveable.
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Niki

Niki

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Oct 19, 2009, 12:26:25 PM10/19/09
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record hunter wrote:

>> That makes me curious. Have we ever actually seen Adam in the car with
>> the driver? I don't remember, then again, when it's on, I mostly listen
>> not watch.

> Now, you know the only reason people get in a car in a soap opera is


> if the car is going to crash.

That is the absolute truth.

I remember making a comment awhile back. I forget who/m got into a car
on Y&R and both parties actually made it to their destination. I was
astounded!

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Niki

Cheri

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Oct 19, 2009, 12:28:05 PM10/19/09
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"Niki" <niki...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Gm0Dm.44270$Ku5....@newsfe04.iad...

I will never understand why they ruined Adam so quickly, he could have been
a dynamic part of the show, and I really liked the character. Now, no.

Cheri


record hunter

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Oct 19, 2009, 1:57:24 PM10/19/09
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Yeah, that's pretty much the 411 on Adam. Victor completely
overreacted by blackballing Adam (maybe they were planning EB's demise
at that time), but the whole gaslighting Ashley business was too much
and too indirect. Ashley never did anything but be kind to Adam. He'd
be in jail, it is highly likely, were it not for her intercession with
The Moustache. And this is how he repays her? It makes no sense. From
the moment he fired Neil, Adam ceased to make sense.

Shirl

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Oct 19, 2009, 4:07:30 PM10/19/09
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record hunter:

> Yeah, that's pretty much the 411 on Adam. Victor completely
> overreacted by blackballing Adam (maybe they were planning EB's demise
> at that time), but the whole gaslighting Ashley business was too much
> and too indirect. Ashley never did anything but be kind to Adam. He'd
> be in jail, it is highly likely, were it not for her intercession with
> The Moustache. And this is how he repays her? It makes no sense. From
> the moment he fired Neil, Adam ceased to make sense.

Unfortunately, it's been a long time since any expectation of stories
and/or characters "making sense" has been met, IMO. Sometimes one
element may correlate, but overall, the storytelling hasn't made sense
in a LONG time, and seems TPTB continue to take miles where viewers
have given them an inch and now it has become the norm. (I know Diva
will come up with a one-liner to that.)

Shirl

Tony Cianfaglione

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Oct 19, 2009, 5:09:42 PM10/19/09
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On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Niki wrote:

> Did his bottom line motive ever come out? He seems to be so evil for no
> apparent reason. I don't remember anyone setting out to harm him
> intentionally. His family doesn't like him due to his own shenanigans. Why is
> he like he is? He's downright hateful.

As was originally played out by Chris Engen, Adam was a self-important
little snipe who thought he would blow away the folks at Newman
Enterprises the way he whizzed everyone on Wall Street. The hardened
Newman brats weren't impressed and Nikki resented him for being Hope's son
and not hers. The harder he tried, the more they resisted.

When it was believed Victor had perished in Mexico, Adam, at that
point, figured he was the best one to inherit the whole kit and kaboodle
and shunned the rest like they had, basically, shunned him. This
backfired when Victor returned and Adam was ousted and exiled. That made
him easy pickings for Jack, who is always looking for a way to stick it to
'moustache'.

As Adam stewed in prison, figuring the whole Newman clan was
responsible for his trouble, he took it upon himself to make life
miserable for Victor when he was released. He figured if he couldn't
quite get at Victor and Jack, he would strike at their common interest,
Ashley, which is what started the whole gaslight thing. As his character
went into the abyss, Engen bailed and Muhney was given free reign to take
Adam to the earth's core and back.

Tony

MarkH

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Oct 19, 2009, 5:16:42 PM10/19/09
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BEST SUMMARY EVER!

Niki

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Oct 19, 2009, 5:28:46 PM10/19/09
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Cheri wrote:
> "Niki" <niki...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>> Thanks RH. I appreciate that info. I have watched sporadically in the

>> last few years. I still don't understand Adam's evil doings and anger.
>> He had it made. Then again, Victor has been ugly with Nick and Vicki
>> in the past too. I just find the things Adam is doing at this point
>> unforgiveable.

> I will never understand why they ruined Adam so quickly, he could have

> been a dynamic part of the show, and I really liked the character. Now, no.

He *had* potential didn't he. Then came the idiotic story with Rafe and
Estella who now seem to be MIA, story dropped. Then actors changed and
the character got worse. Then we found out he was shooting his own eyes
up. Then Asshley's dead baby and all his hovering over her, etc. etc.
etc. I want Adam to go the way of dead. Just get off the screen already.


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Niki

Tony Cianfaglione

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Oct 19, 2009, 5:32:57 PM10/19/09
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On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, record hunter wrote:

> What I can't remember is exactly how the idea of
> forging the diary came about. I think someone found it at the ranch.
> Eventually, there was a forger involved. There was the McGuffin of a
> tape, IIRC. Victor ended up in jail. The forger was also in jail.
>
> It eventually came to light that Victor was innocent, and Adam ended
> up in jail for forging the diary. He has wanted vengeance on Victor
> ever since.
>
> This is just a rough outline. I imagine Tony C. will be able to fill
> in everything I have forgotten.

You wrote an excellent recap and there is not much for me to add except
that they stumbled across the diary in the little beach shack in Mexico
that the little Mexican girl showed them; where Victor had spent his time.
They opined over what could have and should have been in the diary and
what was missing. That gave Jack the bright idea to create a fictional
account of a murder plan by Victor to get revenge for Sabrina.

Adam, at first, was against it but Jack talked him into it, saying how
Victor and the rest of the pack had blackballed him and that this would
his only way to pick up some cash and get his revenge all at once. Adam,
being a country rube, and believing Jack had his best interests at heart,
fell for it.

They brought the diary back to GC, Jack arranged for the forger (being
careful to use only Adam's fingerprints, cellphone, name etc to keep
himself clear of it - even referring to Adam as a shmuck after leaving
the apartment at one point) and even lured the forger away in order to
search for the evidence tape of Jack's voice dictating the whole scenario
to be forged.

When questioned about where he found the diary, Adam quickly said he
found in the trash at the ranch when he was fetching some of his things.
That was the single most important turning point in how the Newman brats
viewed Adam. Had Adam found a legitimate confession in a diary and
approached the brats and said, 'look, dad admitted to stalking Palin to
kill him - what should we do with this information?', it would have
included the brats in the decision-making and brought Adam to them as
someone genuinely looking to help Victor instead of trying to trash him
(even if he deserved it) by just selling the diary for money to a Paris
magazine, which showed him to be a little money-grubbing letch.

The Newman brats may not be angels but they also have this
self-importance and that stupid 'code of honour' they keep repeating:
"Newmans look out for Newmans! When the chips are down and trouble
strikes, we stick together as a family and put our differences aside.
That's what Newmans do!", which, of course, is a big crock of sh*t because
they all spend the rest of their time fighting with each other.

Diva

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Oct 19, 2009, 5:47:50 PM10/19/09
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Tomorrow, If I were you, I would opt to watch reruns of the Heene
Balloon rather than the US dose of Y&R. Both have reached new lows.

I switched channels and cannot understand how the people with a
financial investment in Y&R are not only allowing its total
disintegration but paying for it.

Nate Berkus on Oprah did a makeover on some woman who wound up looking
like Sophie Tucker.

Wolfe Blitzer replayed his Falcon Expose for the 99th time on CNN.

Dr. Oz had a vet examine a slightly overweight black Lab Retriever and
take its temp with an ear thermometer.

Over at the Canadian Food Network, Guy of Guy's Big Bite made a Caesar
Dip for crudites.

Ellen featured some tubby guy wrapped in only a bath towel.

I turned off the TV and went back to the computer.

I have a normal (not H1N1) flu and can't get to the library.

Not sure if stomach cramps are from the flu or Y&R.

Diva-disgusted

Niki

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Oct 19, 2009, 5:54:22 PM10/19/09
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record hunter wrote:
> On Oct 19, 12:21 pm, Niki <nikib...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Thanks RH. I appreciate that info. I have watched sporadically in the
>> last few years. I still don't understand Adam's evil doings and anger.
>> He had it made. Then again, Victor has been ugly with Nick and Vicki in
>> the past too. I just find the things Adam is doing at this point
>> unforgiveable.

> Yeah, that's pretty much the 411 on Adam. Victor completely


> overreacted by blackballing Adam (maybe they were planning EB's demise
> at that time), but the whole gaslighting Ashley business was too much
> and too indirect. Ashley never did anything but be kind to Adam. He'd
> be in jail, it is highly likely, were it not for her intercession with
> The Moustache. And this is how he repays her? It makes no sense. From
> the moment he fired Neil, Adam ceased to make sense.

Yup. TPTB ruined a perfectly good character with potential. Too bad. I'm
tired of him though. His lurking got me. Everytime I see him do it now,
I cringe. Makes me want to throw a glass jar candle at my tv or worse.

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Niki

Niki

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Oct 19, 2009, 5:59:31 PM10/19/09
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This is why I am not a writer. I suck at it. You, amongst many others
are so much better at it than me. I think I have adult ADD going. When
Y&R is on or I'm watching the DVR of it, I do not pay attention and hang
on every word because I know I will be disappointed.


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Niki

Tony Cianfaglione

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Oct 19, 2009, 7:07:19 PM10/19/09
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I was born with and have had Tourette Syndrome all my life. I have
also been diagnosed with ADD, ADHD, OCD, ODD, Asperger's as well as vocal
and physical tics. I credit my Asperger's with an ability to hyperfocus
on details (to the point of exhaustion sometimes). I know my handwriting
was so bad, I had to memorize all of the day's notes in school (my
teachers would literally write dozens of blackboards full of notes each
day) as I couldn't read my scribble when I got home each night. I think
this helped me to retain a lot of miscellaneous stuff I see and read, as I
know a lot of things that I really don't need to know or remember any
longer.

I am also unmedicated as I only learned about TS and its related
syndromes when I was 31 so there were no special conditions available for
me in school. I spent most of my school life in detention after school
writing thousands of lines on foolscap like: I will not make noises in
class, I will not be a disruptive influence, I will sit still in class, I
will not speak out in class, I will not tap my fingers in class (all
Tourette-driven but I didn't know that at the time). To my teachers, I
will simply 'a really bad kid' who was very disuptive in class and got the
leather belt across the hands many times.

I dealt with my TS without medication and feel I am much better for it
as I have been able to subconsciously suppress my tics in public (it's
become second nature to me now) and I have to disagree with parents
medicating their Tourettic children. If you delay their growth and
ability to deal with their tics when they're younger (when it's easier -
believe it or not) then, when they're adults, they will have a much harder
time of it. At least, many schools and institutions make allowances for
TS/ADD/ADHD kids today.

Tony

chicagofan

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Oct 19, 2009, 8:26:06 PM10/19/09
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Niki wrote:
> Puke, puke, puke. Enough already.
>

Doesn't that say it all?!! The invincible blind man... what a joke! I
just want to scream when he appears.
bj

Niki

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Oct 20, 2009, 8:45:54 AM10/20/09
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Tony Cianfaglione wrote:
>
> On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, record hunter wrote:

>> This is just a rough outline. I imagine Tony C. will be able to fill
>> in everything I have forgotten.

> The Newman brats may not be angels but they also have this

> self-importance and that stupid 'code of honour' they keep repeating:
> "Newmans look out for Newmans! When the chips are down and trouble
> strikes, we stick together as a family and put our differences aside.
> That's what Newmans do!", which, of course, is a big crock of sh*t
> because they all spend the rest of their time fighting with each other.

Thanks to both of you for the filler info. It helps explains some of
Adam's rage. But he seems to be over the top with it really.

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Niki

Niki

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Oct 20, 2009, 9:13:50 AM10/20/09
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It's crazy BJ. I can't stand him anymore. I dislike the character, I'm
starting to dislike the actor too.


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Niki

Niki

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Oct 20, 2009, 9:38:37 AM10/20/09
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Tony Cianfaglione wrote:
>
> On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Niki wrote:
>
>> This is why I am not a writer. I suck at it. You, amongst many others
>> are so much better at it than me. I think I have adult ADD going. When
>> Y&R is on or I'm watching the DVR of it, I do not pay attention and
>> hang on every word because I know I will be disappointed.

> I was born with and have had Tourette Syndrome all my life. I have
> also been diagnosed with ADD, ADHD, OCD, ODD, Asperger's as well as
> vocal and physical tics. I credit my Asperger's with an ability to
> hyperfocus on details (to the point of exhaustion sometimes). I know my
> handwriting was so bad, I had to memorize all of the day's notes in
> school (my teachers would literally write dozens of blackboards full of
> notes each day) as I couldn't read my scribble when I got home each
> night. I think this helped me to retain a lot of miscellaneous stuff I
> see and read, as I know a lot of things that I really don't need to know
> or remember any longer.

Sorry to hear this Tony but glad you are working it out. I have some OCD
in me really bad too. Not to the point of life disruption though. I deal
with my issues. I have no choice but to. My handwriting is horrid. I
print and don't do cursive at all. I don't retain a lot of useless info
unless I'm interested in it. I would suck ass on Jeopardy.

> I am also unmedicated as I only learned about TS and its related
> syndromes when I was 31 so there were no special conditions available
> for me in school. I spent most of my school life in detention after
> school writing thousands of lines on foolscap like: I will not make
> noises in class, I will not be a disruptive influence, I will sit still
> in class, I will not speak out in class, I will not tap my fingers in
> class (all Tourette-driven but I didn't know that at the time). To my
> teachers, I will simply 'a really bad kid' who was very disuptive in
> class and got the leather belt across the hands many times.

I spent time in detention in high school a lot myself. I was always
considered a black sheep. It's a long story, but I don't think I have
any actual syndrome of sorts, just a wayward child with lack of parental
as my bio mom left when I was 2 and my dad died when I was 14.

> I dealt with my TS without medication and feel I am much better for
> it as I have been able to subconsciously suppress my tics in public
> (it's become second nature to me now) and I have to disagree with
> parents medicating their Tourettic children. If you delay their growth
> and ability to deal with their tics when they're younger (when it's
> easier - believe it or not) then, when they're adults, they will have a
> much harder time of it. At least, many schools and institutions make
> allowances for TS/ADD/ADHD kids today.

I have friends who have a child who is transponder something really bad.
The kid is 16 and will never be able to take care of himself. It's sad.
He's such a sweet child. He's on medications due to all the complications.

I wish you well. I really enjoy your posts and had no idea all this was
going on in your life. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers.


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Niki

Tony Cianfaglione

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Oct 20, 2009, 1:03:47 PM10/20/09
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On Tue, 20 Oct 2009, Niki wrote:

> I wish you well. I really enjoy your posts and had no idea all this was
> going on in your life. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers.

Thanks. I had a lousy childhood and no friends in school as no one
wanted to associate with the kid who couldn't keep still and kept making
noises so my adulthood was better. I've learned to adjust and compensate
for the TS which is something I think medicated kids may not be able to do
as well.

A similar situation is cited as a reason many kids get so sick these
days. When we were growing up, we played outside in the dirt, making up
our own games. We had pets, dogs, cats, etc and developed immunities to
the many irritants that the outdoors and animals carried. A lot of kids
today are sheltered from the outdoors, stay indoors and play video games
and don't have pets growing up. This has allowed their immune systems to
become complacent and the kids are more susceptible to disease and illness
faster and more harshly because of it.

Niki

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Oct 20, 2009, 4:03:03 PM10/20/09
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Tony Cianfaglione wrote:
>
> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009, Niki wrote:
>
>> I wish you well. I really enjoy your posts and had no idea all this
>> was going on in your life. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers.
>
> Thanks. I had a lousy childhood and no friends in school as no one
> wanted to associate with the kid who couldn't keep still and kept making
> noises so my adulthood was better. I've learned to adjust and
> compensate for the TS which is something I think medicated kids may not
> be able to do as well.

I applaud your attitude. I would have been your friend. I seem to have
grown up in "land of the misfits" myself.

I find the lack of medication quite interesting. I think doctors tend to
overmedicate. It makes me wonder if you are better off w/o it and you
probably are. Some of the drugs dispensed today, I'd be afraid to take.

I took Prednisone for my eye once. That stuff scared the you know what
out of me.

> A similar situation is cited as a reason many kids get so sick these
> days. When we were growing up, we played outside in the dirt, making up
> our own games. We had pets, dogs, cats, etc and developed immunities to
> the many irritants that the outdoors and animals carried. A lot of kids
> today are sheltered from the outdoors, stay indoors and play video games
> and don't have pets growing up. This has allowed their immune systems
> to become complacent and the kids are more susceptible to disease and
> illness faster and more harshly because of it.

Yes! And we rode and shared our bikes and ate lead paint chips off
grandma's window sill, skipped rocks in scummy ponds, played with
decayed cow bones and pies, shared combs and brushes, didn't have hand
sanitizer, sniffed mimeograph ink, etc. etc. etc. Those were the good
old days. I don't remember being sick often nor on antibiotics all the
time. If we ever got a cold or something grandma gave us aspirin and
chicken soup, which I still swear by these days. I am on no meds and
hope not to be for many more years.

--
Niki

Tony Cianfaglione

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Oct 20, 2009, 8:11:41 PM10/20/09
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On Tue, 20 Oct 2009, Niki wrote:

> I took Prednisone for my eye once. That stuff scared the you know what
> out of me.

When I was first diagnosed with TS in 1987, the doctor tried me on
Haldol (haloperidol) and my mother said I became a different person -
nasty and critical of everything. I stopped it for awhile and she said
she noticed I was back to my old self. I tried again for a short while
and the personality swing was incredible so I stopped it again. I tried
Stelazine but it just made me want to sleep. The doctor suggested Orap
but I declined and continue to be medfree to this day.

> Yes! And we rode and shared our bikes and ate lead paint chips off
> grandma's window sill, skipped rocks in scummy ponds, played with
> decayed cow bones and pies, shared combs and brushes, didn't have hand
> sanitizer, sniffed mimeograph ink, etc. etc. etc. Those were the good
> old days.

Yes, I can't count the days I used to crack open an old thermometer and
play with the little silver balls of mercury on my desk and roll it around
in my hands, also using a rock to smash gun caps on the sidewalk and
listening to them explode. Egad, by today's reckoning, we should be 3
headed mutants.

Niki

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Oct 21, 2009, 10:06:00 AM10/21/09
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Tony Cianfaglione wrote:
>
> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009, Niki wrote:
>
>> I took Prednisone for my eye once. That stuff scared the you know what
>> out of me.
>
> When I was first diagnosed with TS in 1987, the doctor tried me on
> Haldol (haloperidol) and my mother said I became a different person -
> nasty and critical of everything. I stopped it for awhile and she said
> she noticed I was back to my old self. I tried again for a short while
> and the personality swing was incredible so I stopped it again. I tried
> Stelazine but it just made me want to sleep. The doctor suggested Orap
> but I declined and continue to be medfree to this day.

I had a manic depressive (bi-polar) friend once. I specifically remember
Haldol and Cogentin being in his drug repertoire. I know there were
others, I just don't remember. It was the damnedest thing. NO body liked
this guy but me. I didn't give a rat's ass. We got along great! Rusty
and I were just two lost peas in a pod who found each other and clicked.
We were the best of buds!

This was back in the day when we delivered pizza. I was 17 at the time
(30 years ago!). He drove (like a maniac! in a VW bug of all things) I'd
run the pizzas up and collect money and the tips. We cleaned up! We had
our system down. We were fast and good and just got along so well. We
were thick as thieves and I miss him. We split the pot. We've lost touch
over the years, unfortunately.

>> Yes! And we rode and shared our bikes and ate lead paint chips off
>> grandma's window sill, skipped rocks in scummy ponds, played with
>> decayed cow bones and pies, shared combs and brushes, didn't have hand
>> sanitizer, sniffed mimeograph ink, etc. etc. etc. Those were the good
>> old days.

> Yes, I can't count the days I used to crack open an old thermometer
> and play with the little silver balls of mercury on my desk and roll it
> around in my hands, also using a rock to smash gun caps on the sidewalk
> and listening to them explode. Egad, by today's reckoning, we should be
> 3 headed mutants.

I did the mercury thing too! My eyes aren't silver, I don't glow. I did
the rock and gun caps thing also. That was fun! POP POP POP Look at my
gun shooting. I should have God knows what from bullet shooting!

Remember clothes pins? Remember taking one and clipping a playing card
to your bicycle spoke? Loved that noise! It was especially cool if you
had a banana seat and high handle bars. I so remember wanting a $50 sky
blue 10 speed. Dad said we couldn't afford it. So I kept on the old bike
I had at the time and went outdoors to play with my friends.

We lived in a residential hood. We'd even played hockey in the streets.
As I had 2 older brothers, I was out with the guys playing right along
with them. That's what we did as kids.

Such great memories. :)

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Niki

Tony Cianfaglione

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Oct 21, 2009, 2:47:38 PM10/21/09
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On Wed, 21 Oct 2009, Niki wrote:

> Remember clothes pins?

I used to buy wooden matches at the corner store. I used to make
match guns from several wooden clothes pins and the little metal clips
that held them together. They would light the matches as they fired them.
I almost burned our house down as I made a little hole in the screen
upstairs and shot the matches out the hole onto an overhang on the front
of our house. My father caught me and, boy, was I in trouble?!

Niki

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hehehehehe!!!! As you should be! I did something when I was about 10 or
11. I don't remember what. I wish I could. I just know it pissed
Granddaddy off. My Grandpa walloped me! I ran out the kitchen door and
slammed it so hard, the glass broke! Oh boy! I ran away... for about an
hour. Came back and thankfully my Nanny protected me. Spare the rod and
spoil the child, NOT in my grandparent's house. I'm thankful for that
discipline. It only takes once to learn your lesson.

The only other incident I remember is I was about the same age and
something I did pissed Nanny off. Understand, she was very patient and
taught me to cook, sew, do laundry and clean. She cornered me in the
hallway by the kitchen, tossed me down and sat on me! She wore these
little red slippers with a wooden heel. She took one off and I was
scared to death she was gonna butter my bottom with it! I just knew I
was getting an ass whooping. She stuck it on my nose!!!!! OMG!!! The
stench! I was gagging. She starting busting a gut laughing! Then I
realized she was just messing with me teaching me a lesson. We both
started just howling! I realized, I'd rather have been hit with the shoe
than smell it. We made up of course and she explained whatever
infraction I violated.

My dear grandparents are long gone, but those memories survive.

Here's a pic of me and Nanny back in 1974 that my Dad took. It's one of
my favs. I was 11 or 12.

http://nikibone.com/nanny/nannyandme1974.jpg

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Niki

Shirl

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Oct 21, 2009, 10:57:04 PM10/21/09
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Niki:

> Here's a pic of me and Nanny back in 1974 that my Dad took. It's one of
> my favs. I was 11 or 12.
>
> http://nikibone.com/nanny/nannyandme1974.jpg

Niki, I loved your photo. It must have been Easter? Did she make your
dress? That is *very* reminiscent of the dresses my mom used to sew
for me.

Sometimes, I'd give anything to be able to turn the clock back.
Where was that taken? (I mean, city/state.)

Shirl

Tony Cianfaglione

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On Wed, 21 Oct 2009, Niki wrote:

> My dear grandparents are long gone, but those memories survive.

You were lucky. I never knew any of my grandparents. They all passed
on before I met them.

Niki

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Shirl wrote:
> Niki:
>> Here's a pic of me and Nanny back in 1974 that my Dad took. It's one of
>> my favs. I was 11 or 12.

>> http://nikibone.com/nanny/nannyandme1974.jpg
>
> Niki, I loved your photo. It must have been Easter? Did she make your
> dress? That is *very* reminiscent of the dresses my mom used to sew
> for me.

Thanks Shirl. My Nanny and I were tight. It was Easter and it was at
Church. She didn't sew it. It came from some discount store. Nanny knew
how to work a buck.

She taught me everything I know pretty much. My dad was a traveling
professional photographer after he got out of the Navy. My bio mom left
us 3 kids, me, my oldest brother Fred and my next oldest brother Dave
when I was 2. We stayed with Nanny and Grandaddy a lot. They instilled
discipline.

> Sometimes, I'd give anything to be able to turn the clock back.
> Where was that taken? (I mean, city/state.)

Indeed. I miss my Nanny. A LOT. This was taken at Norwood OH Baptist
Church in Norwood OH. After all these years, it's still there.

My Dad died at the Beverly Hills Supper Club Fire back in 1977. I am the
one who at 14 years old talked to the Coroner to identify my father
because I was the last one to see him alive and talk to him. I knew he
had on his Lord's Prayer necklace I gave him and his gold puzzle ring an
his gold watch. Uncle Bob who's an attorney couldn't answer the
questions and handed the phone to me. I talked to the Coroner and told
him what he had on.

It was confirmed.

I survive and move on. Sorry to go here. I think that's part of my fear
of flying. My dad is not the pilot. I went up with him so many times and
it was so cool!! I NEVER had any fear of that.

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Niki

Jaie

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Oct 21, 2009, 11:33:42 PM10/21/09
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On Oct 20, 4:03 pm, Niki <nikib...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes! And we rode and shared our bikes and ate lead paint chips off
> grandma's window sill, skipped rocks in scummy ponds, played with
> decayed cow bones and pies, shared combs and brushes, didn't have hand
> sanitizer, sniffed mimeograph ink, etc. etc. etc. Those were the good
> old days.

What I wouldn't do for a sniff of mimeograph right about now. Jabot
should come out with a Mimeo scent. I'd buy it.

record hunter

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Oct 21, 2009, 11:47:06 PM10/21/09
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That is so sad, Niki. I just googled it. What a tragedy.

Niki

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Sorry to hear that. Grandparents are wonderful. I am blessed to have
known mine.

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Niki

Niki

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Oct 22, 2009, 10:33:28 AM10/22/09
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haha! That was the best wasn't it. I'm sure Asshley could develop it or
does she not work in the lab anymore?

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Niki

Niki

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record hunter wrote:

>> My Dad died at the Beverly Hills Supper Club Fire back in 1977. I am the
>> one who at 14 years old talked to the Coroner to identify my father
>> because I was the last one to see him alive and talk to him. I knew he
>> had on his Lord's Prayer necklace I gave him and his gold puzzle ring an
>> his gold watch. Uncle Bob who's an attorney couldn't answer the
>> questions and handed the phone to me. I talked to the Coroner and told
>> him what he had on.

> That is so sad, Niki. I just googled it. What a tragedy.

Thank you RH. I appreciate that.

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Niki

Tony Cianfaglione

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Oct 22, 2009, 2:59:43 PM10/22/09
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On Wed, 21 Oct 2009, Niki wrote:

> My Dad died at the Beverly Hills Supper Club Fire back in 1977. I am the one
> who at 14 years old talked to the Coroner to identify my father because I was
> the last one to see him alive and talk to him. I knew he had on his Lord's
> Prayer necklace I gave him and his gold puzzle ring an his gold watch. Uncle
> Bob who's an attorney couldn't answer the questions and handed the phone to
> me. I talked to the Coroner and told him what he had on.
>
> It was confirmed.
>
> I survive and move on. Sorry to go here. I think that's part of my fear of
> flying. My dad is not the pilot. I went up with him so many times and it was
> so cool!! I NEVER had any fear of that.

The photo is nice and reminds me of some of the old photos we had of
the 'good old days'. It's unfortunate that you had to go through such
trauma at 14. I'm not familiar with that tragedy.

Lindy

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Oct 22, 2009, 3:25:29 PM10/22/09
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Niki said:

> Sorry to hear that. Grandparents are wonderful. I am blessed to have
> known mine.

I adored mine and was heartbroken when each of them died. My husband's
grandparents were gone by the time he was a small boy and he has no memories
of them whatsoever. Cute photo, Niki!

~Lindy~


Niki

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Oct 22, 2009, 6:17:10 PM10/22/09
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Thanks Tonypedia. :) It made national news and then some. 168 people
died that night.

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Niki

Niki

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Oct 22, 2009, 6:38:04 PM10/22/09
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Thanks sistah sluncher! Glad to see you posting!!! I hope all is well on
your end. ;)


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Niki

Rock Everest

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Adam is a rich and powerful White man. His behavior is very typical of
Wall street executives, and other rich and powerful White people. This
soap opera is teaching young people how to live in the American jungle
created by we Caucasians. We are above reproach. We are above the law.

We despise middle and lower income Caucasians even more than we do
Black people. We have setup this country for the White man to succeed
and everyone else to fail! We have brainwashed Black people into
loving us despite the fact that we do everything we can to destroy
them in every area of their lives.

If you want to change your life, you can't do it doing the same things
day after day.

We went live this afternoon Nationwide. It is the biggest launch in
the history of the Internet. It CRASHED our servers for a fe hours!

Don't wait for Steve Jobs, Warren Buffett, and Bill Gates to help you.
They loathe you.

http://barckobama.buildlastingsuccess.com

I will help all middle and lower income people who are mentally sane.

Here's how:

Check it out on opening day. A real ground floor Free opportunity to
save money and to make money.


Yes Adam is disgusting and so is that idiot Ashley who can see through
everything except Adam. :-)

Love you people. that;s why I fuss at you so much. :-) You're my
family.

ne...@millions.com

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On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:01:01 -0500, Rock Everest
<fulfi...@charter.net> wrote:


>I will help all middle and lower income people who are mentally sane.
>
>Here's how:
>

>Love you people. that;s why I fuss at you so much. :-) You're my
>family.

So you count all of the middle and lower income who sane on the
fingers of the one hand you know best because you seen it before and
end up with the "you people" comment? Won't fly. But your heart is in
a good place. ;¦-


Shirl

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Oct 23, 2009, 8:59:16 AM10/23/09
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Niki:

> I survive and move on. Sorry to go here. I think that's part of my fear
> of flying. My dad is not the pilot. I went up with him so many times and
> it was so cool!! I NEVER had any fear of that.

Somehow, I lost track of this thread until just now.
No apology needed...sometimes it's good to reminisce, even about the
hard times. Sad story, but how wonderful that you have memories of you
and your dad flying together -- it is a somewhat unique parent/child
experience. Sure know what you mean about missing Nanny! Love the
photo.
;-)

Shirl

Niki

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Oct 23, 2009, 12:26:32 PM10/23/09
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Thanks Shirl. We've had our issues for sure. But we've always stayed
tight. My Uncle Bob and Aunt Bev always have family over for holidays.
I'm looking forward to Thanksgiving!


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Niki

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