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Martin Vanek

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Feb 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/17/98
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How long are these ships?

Voyager
Enterprise-D
Enterprise-E
BOP
Vorcha
Negh'var
K'T'inga (D7)
Romulan Warbird
Ferengi Marauder
Cardassian Galor class
Cardassian Keldon class
DS9 ( diameter )

Steve Pugh

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Feb 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/17/98
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Martin Vanek wrote:

>How long are these ships?
>
>Voyager

1130' or 344.4m (figure from Rick Sternbach)

>Enterprise-D

or 642m

>Enterprise-E

681m

>BOP

They come in several different sizes.
B'rels are 360' or 109.7m (figure from David Stipes)
Martok's BoP is 450' or 137.2m (figure from David Stipes)
K'Vorts are longer stil.

>Vorcha

1500' or 457.2m (figure from David Stipes)

>Negh'var

2250' or 685.8m (figure from David Stipes)

>K'T'inga (D7)

About 240m I think.

>Romulan Warbird

Big. Nearly twice the length of a Galaxy class.

>Ferengi Marauder

Unknown

>Cardassian Galor class

1200' or 365.8m (figure from David Stipes)

>Cardassian Keldon class

Just a Galor modification so similar.

>DS9 ( diameter )

Figures vary. Apparantly 4760' or 1450.8m will be the figure used in
the forthcoming DS9 Tech Manual.

Steve

--
"And all I ask is a tall ship, and a star to steer her by."
"Though a cloaking device, pulsed phaser cannons
and a full load of quantum torpedoes would be quite nice too."

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Henri Chen

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Feb 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/17/98
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Steve Pugh wrote:
> >Enterprise-D
> or 642m

2108 ft (must be from somewhere official, no?) = 642.5 m.

> >Enterprise-E
> 681m

Actually, 2248 ft (John Eaves's figure)= 685.2 m.

> >BOP
> . . . K'Vorts are longer stil.

K'Vorts appear to be about the length of a K't'inga, at least to me,
based on their wingspan being about the same as the beam of a Vor'cha in
"Redemption."

> >Negh'var
> 2250' or 685.8m (figure from David Stipes)

Obviously, this is not the same Negh'Var as the huge one in the mirror
universe.

> >K'T'inga (D7)
>
> About 240m I think.

D7 was 228 m, according to the ST Encyclopedia. K't'inga looks a little
bit shorter (5-10 m difference maximum).

> >Ferengi Marauder
> Unknown

About the size of a Galaxy saucer?

> >Cardassian Galor class
> 1200' or 365.8m (figure from David Stipes)

This figure is "official," but I still don't like it. It makes the
Galor way too small.
Live long and prosper.

202129a (Henri Chen)

Lotus IV

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Feb 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/18/98
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>
>> >Cardassian Galor class
>> 1200' or 365.8m (figure from David Stipes)
>
>This figure is "official," but I still don't like it. It makes the
>Galor way too small.
>Live long and prosper.
>
>

The galor really never seemed that big to me, something like the defiant, or a
little BoP in ***general*** design concept.

MystarPr

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Feb 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/18/98
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>>Vorcha
>
>1500' or 457.2m (figure from David Stipes)

Exact original length from Rick Sternbach was 1581, althoug it may be modified
to account for FX scale used since (not as much differencein this case, tho’)
in the DS9 tech manual.

> >K'T'inga (D7)
>
> About 240m I think.

D7 was 228 m, according to the ST Encyclopedia. K't'inga looks a little
bit shorter (5-10 m difference maximum).

Original ST:TMP blueprints from Pocket give K't'inga as 214.3 meters.

> >Cardassian Galor class
> 1200' or 365.8m (figure from David Stipes)

Again, this is what VFX has used in the past. Rick S’s original length was
1,587 ft, or @ 3/4 the length of the Galaxy-class.
--Larry Nemecek (Myst...@aol.com)

Martin Vanek

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Feb 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/18/98
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> How long are these ships?
>
> Voyager
> Enterprise-D
> Enterprise-E
> BOP
> Vorcha
> Negh'var
> K'T'inga (D7)
> Romulan Warbird
> Ferengi Marauder
> Cardassian Galor class
> Cardassian Keldon class
> DS9 ( diameter )

Thanks and these ships?

Defiant (I've found 117m)
Jem Hadar bug
Jem Hadar Warship
Kazor raider
Kazon Warship
Maquis raider
Borg Cube
And another non-Fed. ships?


Henri Chen

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Feb 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/18/98
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MystarPr wrote:
> Exact original length from Rick Sternbach was 1581, althoug it may be modified
> to account for FX scale used since (not as much differencein this case, tho’)
> in the DS9 tech manual.
> D7 was 228 m, according to the ST Encyclopedia. K't'inga looks a little
> bit shorter (5-10 m difference maximum).
> Original ST:TMP blueprints from Pocket give K't'inga as 214.3 meters.
> Again, this is what VFX has used in the past. Rick S’s original length was
> 1,587 ft, or @ 3/4 the length of the Galaxy-class.

Do you have any other "original length" figures, in particular for newer
ships such as the Kazon and Jem'Hadar vessels and the Hirogen
battleship? Any numbers on the Romulan warbird?

Chad Stratton

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Feb 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/19/98
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Lotus IV wrote in message
<19980218040...@ladder03.news.aol.com>...


>>
>
>The galor really never seemed that big to me, something
like the defiant, or a
>little BoP in ***general*** design concept.

They have a crew of like 600 or something like that. Hardly
a small ship.

Chad

Chad Stratton

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Feb 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/19/98
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Chad Stratton

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Feb 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/19/98
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Lotus IV wrote in message
<19980218040...@ladder03.news.aol.com>...
>
>The galor really never seemed that big to me, something
like the defiant, or a
>little BoP in ***general*** design concept.

Maybe you mean a Hideki Scout?

Chad

Steve Pugh

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Feb 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/19/98
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Martin Vanek wrote:

>Defiant (I've found 117m)

The 'official' length from Stipes and Sternbach is 560 feet (170.7m)
It has often been shown to be smaller than this on screen, blame it on
the directors!

>Jem Hadar bug

500' or 152.4m (from Stipes)

>Jem Hadar Warship

2500' or 762m (from Stipes)

>Kazor raider
>Kazon Warship

Both unknown.

>Maquis raider

The Maquis have used several types of ship. We don't know exact sizes
for any of them.

>Borg Cube

Big! They probably come in all sorts of sizes.

Henri Chen

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Feb 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/19/98
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Steve Pugh wrote:
> >Borg Cube
>
> Big! They probably come in all sorts of sizes.

Economy size is the best bargain.

MystarPr

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Feb 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/20/98
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>>Vorcha
>
>1500' or 457.2m (figure from David Stipes)

Exact original length from Rick Sternbach was 1581, althoug it may be modified


to account for FX scale used since (not as much differencein this case, tho’)
in the DS9 tech manual.

> >K'T'inga (D7)
>
> About 240m I think.

D7 was 228 m, according to the ST Encyclopedia. K't'inga looks a little


bit shorter (5-10 m difference maximum).

Original ST:TMP blueprints from Pocket give K't'inga as 214.3 meters.

> >Cardassian Galor class


> 1200' or 365.8m (figure from David Stipes)

Again, this is what VFX has used in the past. Rick S’s original length was


1,587 ft, or @ 3/4 the length of the Galaxy-class.

--Larry Nemecek (Myst...@aol.com)

MystarPr

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Lotus IV

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Feb 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/21/98
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>> >Borg Cube
>>
>> Big! They probably come in all sorts of sizes.
>
>Economy size is the best bargain.
>Live long and prosper.
>
>

Money is irrelevent, Sam's Club will be assimilated, They probably come in only
one size (Scorpion's [VOY] Borg fleets looked pretty uniform) easier to
design, though rather inneficient at warp, just accept that, please, the design
has not changed at all for years, as far as we can tell. Star Fleet has had a
major design change. The klingons still use birds of prey that kirk fought,
and flew in. The romulans have the same warbirds from the early TNG, Star
fleet has had radical changes in its whole concept of design, is there a trend
here, or am I just whimpering anout whipperwhils?

Lotus IV

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Feb 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/21/98
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>>
>>The galor really never seemed that big to me, something
>like the defiant, or a
>>little BoP in ***general*** design concept.
>
>Maybe you mean a Hideki Scout?
>
>Chad

said it never seemed big to me, I didn't state anything quantitative. With
*my* frame of mind, the defiant is little, little BoP's are little, and the to
me little galor is little. Little ships that are easy to make. same general
idea. the cardies seem to have made a ton of galors, the klingies seem to have
made a ton of BoP's.

Refresh my memory, Hideki?

Henri Chen

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Feb 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/21/98
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Lotus IV wrote:
> . . .Star Fleet . . .

It's "Starfleet," not "Star Fleet."
Actually, the Klingons and Romulans have lots of brand-spanking new
ships. These operate under cloak at all times, never communicate with
anyone, and never open fire on anything. However, they are responsible
for several temporal and spatial anomalies, which a certain Federation
flagship was always running in to.

Lotus IV

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Feb 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/22/98
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Depends on How Much You Like The Shift Key.

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