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einexile the meek

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Sep 25, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/25/96
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I haven't been reading or keeping up here, and was wondering if someone
might explain, in the group or via mail perhaps if the topic has been
covered, what has gone on recently in the last year or so with Elizabeth
Hand, author of Winterlong and Waking the Moon, among other things.

1. She changed publishers and immediately all her books were taken out of
print. I have certainly seen this before, but not so suddenly.

2. Her most recent novel, Waking the Moon, was published in the US with
some 200 pages cut from its length, and she is said to have preferred the
shorter version.

3. She won a Nebula for either best novella or novelette, but the story
neither appears nor is even *mentioned* in any of the four collections
where I'd have expected to see it.

4. The promised collection of her short stories, to have been named after
the above mentioned story, is apparently no longer promised.

Am I mistaken about the cutoff date for these anthologies and the oddness
of the treatment of these books, or has something very strange happened?
My first reaction is to assume that either she has changed her mind about
a great deal of her writing, or she is being mistreated by the industry
for some reason. I'm curious because for a while there it was very
satisfying to see her on the rise like that.

Thanks for any info.


e

BLANG

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Sep 25, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/25/96
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I'm not sure about her changing publishers et al, but I do know she's coming
out with a new book, titled _Glimmering_ in the spring of '97. I'm looking
forward to it. And yeah, I'd like to get a hold of some of her other work.
I've read _Waking the Moon_ and loved it. Anyone have any idea where I
can find copies of _Winterlong_ or _Icarus Descending_?

Brian


einexile the meek

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Sep 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/26/96
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BLANG@ wrote:
: I'm not sure about her changing publishers et al, but I do know she's coming

Nope. These two and Aestival Tide (which comes between them) were taken
out of print suddenly at the end of last year, or thereabouts. It even
became impossible to find Icarus Descending though it was not very old at
all. You could try some used bookstores, and ordering them from smaller
shops might turn up a copy of one or the other in a warehouse someplace.
Could her new publisher be depended upon to pick these up or can the old
one keep the rights to them and have them unavailable indefinitely?

The Glimmering is set for March.


e

EllenDat

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Sep 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/26/96
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>>>> Subject: Elizabeth Hand - Info, Please
From: eine...@netcom.com (einexile the meek)
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 09:37:00 GMT
Message-ID: <einexileD...@netcom.com>

>>>I haven't been reading or keeping up here, and was wondering if someone

>might explain, in the group or via mail perhaps if the topic has been
>covered, what has gone on recently in the last year or so with Elizabeth
>Hand, author of Winterlong and Waking the Moon, among other things.

>1. She changed publishers and immediately all her books were taken out of

>print. I have certainly seen this before, but not so suddenly.

They will be reissued by HarperPrism, her new publisher, presumably in the
near future. Her new novel, GLIMMERING, will be out in March. WINTERLONG
is being reiussed summer of 1997.

>>2. Her most recent novel, Waking the Moon, was published in the US with
>some 200 pages cut from its length, and she is said to have preferred the

>shorter version.

It was Liz's choice to cut the novel and it is about 120 page shorter.

>3. She won a Nebula for either best novella or novelette, but the story
>neither appears nor is even *mentioned* in any of the four collections
>where I'd have expected to see it.

"Last Summer at Mars Hill," which won the World Fantasy Award and the
Nebula Award last year, was on the rec lists of both The Year's Best Sf
and The Year's Best Fantasy & Horror (it's a novella, and neither Terri
nor I have room for novellas in our antho as we each have only 125,000
words). HOwever, the novella will be reprinted in the Nebula Award
Anthollgy.

>4. The promised collection of her short stories, to have been named after

>the above mentioned story, is apparently no longer promised.

Not true. Her collection, to be called LAST SUMMER AT MARS HILL AND OTHER
STORIES is coming out fall 1997.


>Am I mistaken about the cutoff date for these anthologies and the oddness

>of the treatment of these books, or has something very strange happened?
>My first reaction is to assume that either she has changed her mind about

>a great deal of her writing, or she is being mistreated by the industry
>for some reason. I'm curious because for a while there it was very
>satisfying to see her on the rise like that.

>Thanks for any info.

I'd say she's doing pretty well. WAKING THE MOON won the Tiptree Award and
the Mythopeic Society Award and has about 100,000 copies in print. In
addition she wrote the novelizaion of 12 Monkeys which also has about
100,000 copies in print.

Ellen Datlow
Ficiton Editor
OMNI
http://www.omnimag.com

Little Man With a Gun in His Hand

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Sep 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/26/96
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In article <52e5ke$a...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>,
EllenDat <elle...@aol.com> wrote:

>>>2. Her most recent novel, Waking the Moon, was published in the US with
>>some 200 pages cut from its length, and she is said to have preferred the
>>shorter version.

>It was Liz's choice to cut the novel and it is about 120 page shorter.

So what was cut? (I have the UK edition, which I enjoyed thoroughly).


--
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EllenDat

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Sep 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/26/96
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>>>Subject: Re: Elizabeth Hand - Info, Please
>From: so...@teleport.com (Little Man With a Gun in His Hand)
>Date: 26 Sep 1996 19:16:30 GMT
>Message-ID: <52ekqe$o...@nadine.teleport.com>

I read the UK too but she told me that most of the cuts came from the
first 2-300 pages.

Ellen Datlow
Fiction Editor
OMNI http://www.omnimag.com

Lawrence King

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Sep 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/27/96
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What are her best books, or the best to start reading? I read and
loved her ANIMA comic series, and because of it I came to her panel
at WorldCon. She and the other panelists convinced me that I should
read Charles Williams, and I wanted to read some of Elizabeth Hand's
works as well.

I don't usually read fantasy (i'm really prejudiced and think it's all
Tolkien copies) -- but the presentation was really wonderful. It made
me see that in some sense Tolkien, Lewis, AND Williams were the fathers
of modern fantasy. In particular, Tolkien writes of a world which
is completely separate from ours; Lewis has "regular modern folk" travel
to a fantastic world in Narnia and his first two space books; Lewis'
"That Hideous Strength" and much of Charles Williams' works involve
something or someone from a fantastic world ENDING UP IN OUR WORLD.
Both Elizabeth Hand and Tim Powers felt this was the hardest but
most rewarding thing to write -- "the Holy Grail sitting in the back
of an ordinary station wagon, in our very real world yet not losing
any of its own mystery"!

I did get her to autograph my ANIMA #1, but got the impression she
didn't consider it among the works she was proudest of: rather a
"fun to do for a change" project.

larry king
univ of washington

BLANG

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Sep 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/27/96
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In <Pine.HPP.3.93.960927...@magritte.math.washington.edu>, Lawrence King <lk...@math.washington.edu> writes:
>
>What are her best books, or the best to start reading? I read and
<snip>

I've read only _Waking the Moon_, which was incredible. She won
the James Triptree Fantasy Award for it. And believe me, it's nowhere
close to being a rip off of Tolkien. Very Gothic, very eerie, very spooky.
Good book to read as Halloween nears.

Unfortunately, all her other stuff is OOP and the used bookstore I generally
go to doesn't have any of her stuff in it. Which leaves me SOL until
her new publisher decides to reprint all her other novels. Which better
happen soon!

Brian

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