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Eric Daniel Rosenberg

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Aug 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/16/96
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It is my guess, that the Wise Ones are using the One Power to enhance
the 'fertility' of the women Rand is fated to marry, Min, Aviendha and
Elayne. So far he has had intercourse with Min and Aviendha, if you
were Rand, and all three women were pregnant, your Two Rivers honor
would force you to marry them all. :)
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Kate Nepveu

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Eric Daniel Rosenberg (e...@vivid.net) wrote:
: It is my guess, that the Wise Ones are using the One Power to enhance

: the 'fertility' of the women Rand is fated to marry, Min, Aviendha and
: Elayne. So far he has had intercourse with Min and Aviendha, if you
: were Rand, and all three women were pregnant, your Two Rivers honor
: would force you to marry them all. :)

Wouldn't Avi & Elayne notice? Don't you think they'd mind? Why would
the WO want Rand to have 3 wives? We have no indications that Avi is
pregnant, either.

Kate
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Chris Hackett

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In article <4v0hsg$g...@newsy.vivid.net>, e...@vivid.net (Eric Daniel
Rosenberg) wrote:

> It is my guess, that the Wise Ones are using the One Power to enhance
> the 'fertility' of the women Rand is fated to marry, Min, Aviendha and
> Elayne. So far he has had intercourse with Min and Aviendha, if you
> were Rand, and all three women were pregnant, your Two Rivers honor
> would force you to marry them all. :)

Well, I don't think much of your theory. But...

Whatever happens, Rand is sort of screwed. It seems to me that Rand
is facing two possible destinies. Death at Shayol Ghul or polygamy.
Unless two of the girls die. Which would be just as bad from Rand's
POV. I suppose being half Aiel he should get over the polygamy hang-up,
but I doubt the girls would like having 1/3 of Rand to themselves.

So does anyone want to predict how this situation will turn out? Are
there any happy endings?

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Department of Physics and Astronomy
Home of two Nobel prize winners for 1995!

Andreas Karlberg

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Eric Daniel Rosenberg <e...@vivid.net> wrote in article
<4v0hsg$g...@newsy.vivid.net>...


> It is my guess, that the Wise Ones are using the One Power to enhance
> the 'fertility' of the women Rand is fated to marry, Min, Aviendha and
> Elayne. So far he has had intercourse with Min and Aviendha, if you
> were Rand, and all three women were pregnant, your Two Rivers honor
> would force you to marry them all. :)
>
>

I think according to two rivers honor you can only have ONE wife anyway...
So in I think it's a VERY silly theory.

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Andry

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Aug 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/17/96
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In article <8117cc$23925.11d@news>,
ec...@mail.ameritel.net (Bryan Ecker) wrote:

>Chris Hackett wrote:
>
>>Whatever happens, Rand is sort of screwed.
>
>Interesting way to put it.

>
>>It seems to me that Rand
>>is facing two possible destinies. Death at Shayol Ghul or polygamy.
>>Unless two of the girls die. Which would be just as bad from Rand's
>>POV. I suppose being half Aiel he should get over the polygamy
>hang-up,
>>but I doubt the girls would like having 1/3 of Rand to themselves.
>>
>>So does anyone want to predict how this situation will turn out? Are
>>there any happy endings?
>
>IMHO, a nice manage a quatre scene would be an exceptional ending :)
>

Yes, I have absolutely no problem with this. Other than the fact that his
lifespan will probably suffer somewhat, given the fact that even a young man
can satisfy *three* women simultaneously for only so long....

But then, perhaps the OP could be employed to extend endurance?

Andry

"A man about to speak the truth should keep
one foot in the stirrup." - old Mongolian proverb


Ben Caldwell

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Aug 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/17/96
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Kate Nepveu (kne...@lynx.dac.neu.edu) wrote:
: Eric Daniel Rosenberg (e...@vivid.net) wrote:
: : It is my guess, that the Wise Ones are using the One Power to enhance

: : the 'fertility' of the women Rand is fated to marry, Min, Aviendha and
: : Elayne. So far he has had intercourse with Min and Aviendha, if you
: : were Rand, and all three women were pregnant, your Two Rivers honor
: : would force you to marry them all. :)

: Wouldn't Avi & Elayne notice? Don't you think they'd mind? Why would


: the WO want Rand to have 3 wives? We have no indications that Avi is
: pregnant, either.

Well, Elayne and Avi are the only ones Rand needs to worry about,
cause they can channel. And as long as they don't take the oaths,
and with their strenght, they may live 500+ years, while poor
min dies in her 60's. So, if Rand is patient in choosing, he just
has to break one heart or have just 2 wives.
But really, most likely Rand will die.

benc

WntrMute

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Aug 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/17/96
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The three in question are already gearing themselves up for a forsome ala
Aiel.
They already know who each of the others is.

Next big question is do Aiel sisterwives MPS each other.

Eric Daniel Rosenberg

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kne...@lynx.dac.neu.edu (Kate Nepveu) wrote:

>Eric Daniel Rosenberg (e...@vivid.net) wrote:
>: It is my guess, that the Wise Ones are using the One Power to enhance
>: the 'fertility' of the women Rand is fated to marry, Min, Aviendha and
>: Elayne. So far he has had intercourse with Min and Aviendha, if you
>: were Rand, and all three women were pregnant, your Two Rivers honor
>: would force you to marry them all. :)

>Wouldn't Avi & Elayne notice? Don't you think they'd mind? Why would
>the WO want Rand to have 3 wives? We have no indications that Avi is
>pregnant, either.

>Kate


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>And that's the world in a nutshell, an appropriate receptacle.
> --Stan Dunn

There have been a few indications that Aviendha is pregnant, I don't
recall the specifically but I am sure there are some WoT readers who
could point them out

Bryan Ecker

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Chris Hackett wrote:

>Whatever happens, Rand is sort of screwed.

Interesting way to put it.

>It seems to me that Rand
>is facing two possible destinies. Death at Shayol Ghul or polygamy.
>Unless two of the girls die. Which would be just as bad from Rand's
>POV. I suppose being half Aiel he should get over the polygamy
hang-up,
>but I doubt the girls would like having 1/3 of Rand to themselves.
>
>So does anyone want to predict how this situation will turn out? Are
>there any happy endings?

IMHO, a nice manage a quatre scene would be an exceptional ending :)


--bryan ecker
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Magnus Itland

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e...@vivid.net (Eric Daniel Rosenberg) wrote:

>It is my guess, that the Wise Ones are using the One Power to enhance
>the 'fertility' of the women Rand is fated to marry, Min, Aviendha and
>Elayne. So far he has had intercourse with Min and Aviendha, if you
>were Rand, and all three women were pregnant, your Two Rivers honor
>would force you to marry them all. :)

If he made them all three pregnant at the same time, his Two Rivers
honor would be dead and gone. Sorry.

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I blatantly disbelieve your arithmetic.
Sorry again.

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edward hardy

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Aug 18, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/18/96
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In article <chackett-160...@dialin9162.slip.uci.edu>,
chac...@ea.oac.uci.edu (Chris Hackett) wrote:
>Whatever happens, Rand is sort of screwed. It seems to me that Rand

>is facing two possible destinies. Death at Shayol Ghul or polygamy.
>Unless two of the girls die. Which would be just as bad from Rand's
>POV. I suppose being half Aiel he should get over the polygamy hang-up,
>but I doubt the girls would like having 1/3 of Rand to themselves.

They are already not happy about it. But they are all resigned to the fact
that it is real and they have to deal with it. You are right, they have
all said they don't like it, but they will live with it.


Rob Bowell

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Aug 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/19/96
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In article <4v46n3$egg...@ix.netcom.com>,

an...@ix.netcom.com (Andry) wrote:
>In article <8117cc$23925.11d@news>,
> ec...@mail.ameritel.net (Bryan Ecker) wrote:
>>Chris Hackett wrote:
>>
>>>So does anyone want to predict how this situation will turn out? Are
>>>there any happy endings?
>>
>>IMHO, a nice manage a quatre scene would be an exceptional ending :)
>>
>
>Yes, I have absolutely no problem with this. Other than the fact that his
>lifespan will probably suffer somewhat, given the fact that even a young
man
>can satisfy *three* women simultaneously for only so long....
>
>But then, perhaps the OP could be employed to extend endurance?
>
Well, he ain't called He Who Comes With--
*BUMP* *THUMP* *SMACK*


NO CARRIER


Y'obt.,
Rob Bowell

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Carole L. Mckinney

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<Munch menage a quatre, Rand's fantastic endurance>

Rob Bowell (bow...@eden.rutgers.edu) wrote:
: Well, he ain't called He Who Comes With--


: *BUMP* *THUMP* *SMACK*
:
:
: NO CARRIER


Ah... witness the omnipotent (and not omnibenevolent by a long shot) wrath
of the Cabal (There Is No Cabal)...

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Troy N. Terry

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Aug 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/19/96
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I think that people are focusing on the _positive_
aspects of Rand's situation a little too much. I am
told that the Chinese character for 'trouble' can be
broken down into "two women under one roof". Now
we're talking about four.

Instead of drooling over tag-team MPS, Rand should
really be worrying about tag-team PMS.

Yours,

T. Terry

Andry

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In article <4v8lli$a...@dziuxsolim.rutgers.edu>,

bow...@eden.rutgers.edu (Rob Bowell) wrote:
>In article <4v46n3$egg...@ix.netcom.com>,
> an...@ix.netcom.com (Andry) wrote:
>>In article <8117cc$23925.11d@news>,
>> ec...@mail.ameritel.net (Bryan Ecker) wrote:
>>>Chris Hackett wrote:
>>>
>>>>So does anyone want to predict how this situation will turn out? Are
>>>>there any happy endings?
>>>
>>>IMHO, a nice manage a quatre scene would be an exceptional ending :)
>>>
>>
>>Yes, I have absolutely no problem with this. Other than the fact that his
>>lifespan will probably suffer somewhat, given the fact that even a young
>man
>>can satisfy *three* women simultaneously for only so long....
>>
>>But then, perhaps the OP could be employed to extend endurance?
>>
> Well, he ain't called He Who Comes With--
>*BUMP* *THUMP* *SMACK*
>
>
>NO CARRIER
>

Oh, gods, that *hurt*.

(grins)

Karl-Johan Noren

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In article <4v9qep$j...@balsam.unca.edu>

mcki...@cs.unca.edu (Carole L. Mckinney) writes:

> <Munch menage a quatre, Rand's fantastic endurance>
>
> Rob Bowell (bow...@eden.rutgers.edu) wrote:

> : Well, he ain't called He Who Comes With--


> : *BUMP* *THUMP* *SMACK*
> :
> : NO CARRIER
>

> Ah... witness the omnipotent (and not omnibenevolent by a long shot) wrath
> of the Cabal (There Is No Cabal)...

Not at all. That's Rand who's pissed off...

Anyway, it explains why Aviendha had to get to Seanchan in
order to have MPS with Rand...
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Rob Bowell

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In article <321895...@eventus.com>,

"Troy N. Terry" <tr...@eventus.com> wrote:

>I am
>told that the Chinese character for 'trouble' can be
>broken down into "two women under one roof". Now
>we're talking about four.
>

Who's his fourth femme? I musta missed that part.

Troy N. Terry

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Rob Bowell wrote:
>
> In article <321895...@eventus.com>,
> "Troy N. Terry" <tr...@eventus.com> wrote:
>
> >I am
> >told that the Chinese character for 'trouble' can be
> >broken down into "two women under one roof". Now
> >we're talking about four.
> >
> Who's his fourth femme? I musta missed that part.
>
> Y'obt.,
> Rob Bowell
> [Munch nice sig]

His fourth femme (and _quite_ fatale) is Alanna! I don't
think we've seen the last of her at all. If nothing else,
the "Warder gifts" will probably be of help to him some
time.

So why is it that Rand can't swing an Oath Rod without
making a cuddlicious dame with fantastic powers fall in
love with him? I mean, what's he got that I don't? That
is, besides being a handsome six-foot-tall carrot-top
blademaster Messiah with a heart of gold, awe-inspiring
powers, a summer palace in Cairhien, and an extra person-
ality inside his head in case you get tired of the old
one? Sheesh!

That's why the DO has put out a contract on the poor lad.
Simple jealousy.

Yours,

T. Terry

Lara Beaton

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so sayeth chac...@ea.oac.uci.edu (Chris Hackett) :


>Whatever happens, Rand is sort of screwed. It seems to me that Rand
>is facing two possible destinies. Death at Shayol Ghul or polygamy.
>Unless two of the girls die. Which would be just as bad from Rand's
>POV. I suppose being half Aiel he should get over the polygamy hang-up,
>but I doubt the girls would like having 1/3 of Rand to themselves.

ObGreebsBait: That's why Elayne and Avienda are getting it on, they're
practicing for when they all have to share Rand.

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the team, did it?


Chris Byler

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Troy N. Terry (tr...@eventus.com) wrote:
> Rob Bowell wrote:
> >
> > In article <321895...@eventus.com>,
> > "Troy N. Terry" <tr...@eventus.com> wrote:
> >
> > >I am
> > >told that the Chinese character for 'trouble' can be
> > >broken down into "two women under one roof". Now
> > >we're talking about four.
> > >
> > Who's his fourth femme? I musta missed that part.
> >
> > Y'obt.,
> > Rob Bowell
> > [Munch nice sig]

> His fourth femme (and _quite_ fatale) is Alanna! I don't
> think we've seen the last of her at all. If nothing else,
> the "Warder gifts" will probably be of help to him some
> time.

<swat> Not *that* kind of endurance!

> So why is it that Rand can't swing an Oath Rod without
> making a cuddlicious dame with fantastic powers fall in
> love with him? I mean, what's he got that I don't? That
> is, besides being a handsome six-foot-tall carrot-top
> blademaster Messiah with a heart of gold, awe-inspiring
> powers, a summer palace in Cairhien, and an extra person-
> ality inside his head in case you get tired of the old
> one? Sheesh!

Nah, it's all fate. Otherwise Elayne would look down her nose at him,
and Aviendha might play Maidens' Kiss but certainly wouldn't get closer.
Min would never have thought about him twice - out of sight, out of mind.

> That's why the DO has put out a contract on the poor lad.
> Simple jealousy.

> Yours,

> T. Terry

Chris


Gwydion

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bow...@eden.rutgers.edu (Rob Bowell) wrote:

>In article <321895...@eventus.com>,
> "Troy N. Terry" <tr...@eventus.com> wrote:

>>I am
>>told that the Chinese character for 'trouble' can be
>>broken down into "two women under one roof". Now
>>we're talking about four.
>>
> Who's his fourth femme? I musta missed that part.

Five, actually.

Think about it.

Birgitte is bonded to Elayne. Alanna is bonded to Rand.

An Aes Sedai's warder is aware of what his(her) Aes Sedai feels, and
vice-versa.

Even if they were not involved (which would probably leave Rand
gibbering like some nameless Lovecraftian creature), Alanna and
Birgitte would probably be the first to share the post-conjugal smoke.

"So... was it good for you?"
"Zalright. We're gonna have to give lover-boy back there some
pointers."


Adrian von Bidder

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"Troy N. Terry" <tr...@eventus.com> wrote:

>WntrMute wrote:
>>
>> The three in question are already gearing themselves
>> up for a forsome ala
>> Aiel.
>> They already know who each of the others is.
>>
>> Next big question is do Aiel sisterwives MPS each other.

>I think that people are focusing on the _positive_

>aspects of Rand's situation a little too much. I am


>told that the Chinese character for 'trouble' can be
>broken down into "two women under one roof". Now
>we're talking about four.

^^^^
What did I miss? Rand a Gender Changer?


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I Holding

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Aug 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/21/96
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On 17 Aug 1996, Andry wrote:

> In article <8117cc$23925.11d@news>,
> ec...@mail.ameritel.net (Bryan Ecker) wrote:
> >Chris Hackett wrote:
> >

> <chomp>

> Yes, I have absolutely no problem with this. Other than the fact that his
> lifespan will probably suffer somewhat, given the fact that even a young man
> can satisfy *three* women simultaneously for only so long....
>
> But then, perhaps the OP could be employed to extend endurance?
>

Rand can 'handle' 10 weaves at once.....

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Lara Beaton

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so sayeth "Troy N. Terry" <tr...@eventus.com> :


>Instead of drooling over tag-team MPS, Rand should
>really be worrying about tag-team PMS.

Well, the tag-team MPS is a more pleasant thing to concentrate on...

But, what do you think will happen if the three of them start cycling
at the same time?

Rand would be lucky if he even _survives_ to make it to TG, either
way.


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Jacob Sewell

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Captain, a sensor scan reveals that "Troy N. Terry"
<tr...@eventus.com> wrote:

>I think that people are focusing on the _positive_
>aspects of Rand's situation a little too much. I am
>told that the Chinese character for 'trouble' can be
>broken down into "two women under one roof". Now
>we're talking about four.

Four? Lanfear? Huh?

>Instead of drooling over tag-team MPS, Rand should
>really be worrying about tag-team PMS.

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cby...@dsu.seas.ucla.edu (Chris Byler) wrote:

<munch>


>Nah, it's all fate. Otherwise Elayne would look down her nose at him,
>and Aviendha might play Maidens' Kiss but certainly wouldn't get closer.

I think you should read the chapter on Mat and his experience with
Maiden's Kiss again. I think you missed something.

DeWitt Payne

Troy N. Terry

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Wot wot? Jacob Sewell wrote:
>
> Captain, a sensor scan reveals that "Troy N. Terry"
> <tr...@eventus.com> wrote:
>
> >I think that people are focusing on the _positive_
> >aspects of Rand's situation a little too much. I am
> >told that the Chinese character for 'trouble' can be
> >broken down into "two women under one roof". Now
> >we're talking about four.
>
> Four? Lanfear? Huh?
> [Munch sig]

This would be Alanna. In COS when Rand is going
out to meet the Sea Folk, she and Min have a
little "rapproachment". Rand will never get
a good night's sleep again. ;)

para...@houston.geoquest.slb.com

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In article <4v46n3$egg...@ix.netcom.com>, an...@ix.netcom.com (Andry) writes:
|> In article <8117cc$23925.11d@news>,
|> ec...@mail.ameritel.net (Bryan Ecker) wrote:
|> >Chris Hackett wrote:
|> >
|> >>Whatever happens, Rand is sort of screwed.
|> >
|> >Interesting way to put it.
|> >
|> >>It seems to me that Rand
|> >>is facing two possible destinies. Death at Shayol Ghul or polygamy.
|> >>Unless two of the girls die. Which would be just as bad from Rand's
|> >>POV. I suppose being half Aiel he should get over the polygamy
|> >hang-up,
|> >>but I doubt the girls would like having 1/3 of Rand to themselves.
|> >>
|> >>So does anyone want to predict how this situation will turn out? Are
|> >>there any happy endings?
|> >

How about this. Min and Aviendha are killed at Shayol Ghul. Also, they
are pregnant at this time (the battle takes place within six months of
the COS events), and the unborn kids are also killed, thus fulfilling
the prophecy about "his blood being spilt" etc. Rand is overcome with
grief, decides to blind himself, blinds himself in one eye, and starts
to go after the other, when Elayne, determined to stop him, uses the one
power to knock the knife out of his hand, uses too much force, and the
knife cuts through his hand, severing it at the wrist.
Rand then decides to renounce his position and becomes a wandering
somethingortheother.
In the meantime, the dark one, who was merely faking his death at the
hands of Rand, stirs....

HP

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Troy N. Terry

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Agents report that Magnus Itland wrote:
>
> e...@vivid.net (Eric Daniel Rosenberg) wrote:
>
> >It is my guess, that the Wise Ones are using the One Power to enhance
> >the 'fertility' of the women Rand is fated to marry, Min, Aviendha and
> >Elayne. So far he has had intercourse with Min and Aviendha, if you
> >were Rand, and all three women were pregnant, your Two Rivers honor
> >would force you to marry them all. :)
>
> If he made them all three pregnant at the same time, his Two Rivers
> honor would be dead and gone. Sorry.
> [Munch sig]

While it's true that getting 3 women (or
even one, probably) in trouble would be a
catastrophe from a Two Rivers perspective,
remember that the Wise Ones may not see it
quite that way, _especially_ with respect
to Aviendha. They intend to see Rand with
Avi even if they have to lay the wreath
themselves.

So I'd buy the fertility-enhancement theory
wrt Aviendha. As to Min, it's hard to say,
because, even though she's not Aiel, one of
the Wise Ones (Bair?) is down with her, and
may decide to do it as a favor.

Elayne has been out of their grasp for some
time, so is probably safe, unless Avi wants
to help her out.

Just a thought. Yours,

T. Terry
"The Two Rivers people sell tobacco ... are
you _sure_ they walk in the Light?"

Chris Byler

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Gaul didn't seem too happy with the suggestion...

> DeWitt Payne

Chris


DeWitt A. Payne

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cby...@dsu.seas.ucla.edu (Chris Byler) wrote:

Gaul is fixated on Bain (or is it Chiad). I got the distinct
impression that Maiden's Kiss was a whole lot more than the Aiel
version of Spin the Bottle.

DeWitt Payne

Karl-Johan Noren

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In article <4vk4us$9...@news.preferred.com>

The Aiel version should be more than enough...

Or did you miss Rand's thoughts on the marriage between Bael
and Melaine?

Magnus Itland

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"Troy N. Terry" <tr...@eventus.com> wrote:

>"The Two Rivers people sell tobacco ... are
>you _sure_ they walk in the Light?"

Absolutely. Remember, Randland is in the future. In the meantime,
probably during the AoL, the tobacco was genetically enhanced and
given the name tabac. It now contains lots of healthy stuff that
enhances the immune system, suppresses cancer, tones up muscle tissue
and removes wrinkles, in addition to its old effect of enhancing brain
function. But most important of all, it protects completely against
acne. That is why Two Rivers Tabac is sought after everywhere in
Randland, and it nicely explain why none of our rural heroes ever
shows a trace of a zit.

David DeLaney

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dpa...@preferred.com (DeWitt A. Payne) writes:
>Gaul is fixated on Bain (or is it Chiad). I got the distinct
>impression that Maiden's Kiss was a whole lot more than the Aiel
>version of Spin the Bottle.

"Distinct impression"?!? We're given an outright _description_ of the game,
and unless you're playing with broken bottles, StB has nothing on MK.

Dave "coming soon: MKII!" DeLaney
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Kate Nepveu

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Lara Beaton (lbe...@ccgate.hac.com) wrote:
: so sayeth "Troy N. Terry" <tr...@eventus.com> :

: >Instead of drooling over tag-team MPS, Rand should


: >really be worrying about tag-team PMS.

: Well, the tag-team MPS is a more pleasant thing to concentrate on...

: But, what do you think will happen if the three of them start cycling
: at the same time?

Which is probably likely, if they live together or spend a lot of time
together.

: Rand would be lucky if he even _survives_ to make it to TG, either
: way.

=> I guess PMS Escape didn't survive the breaking (I haven't used it
myself, but my mother swears by it.)

Kate
--
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--Will Shetterly, _Nevernever_

Jed Wyrick

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Magnus Itland (itl...@sn.no) wrote:

: "Troy N. Terry" <tr...@eventus.com> wrote:

: >"The Two Rivers people sell tobacco ... are
: >you _sure_ they walk in the Light?"

: Absolutely. Remember, Randland is in the future. In the meantime,
: probably during the AoL, the tobacco was genetically enhanced and
: given the name tabac. It now contains lots of healthy stuff that
: enhances the immune system, suppresses cancer, tones up muscle tissue
: and removes wrinkles, in addition to its old effect of enhancing brain
: function. But most important of all, it protects completely against
: acne. That is why Two Rivers Tabac is sought after everywhere in
: Randland, and it nicely explain why none of our rural heroes ever
: shows a trace of a zit.


I'm not sure whether to applaud or groan at RJ's little "tips-o-the-hat"
to Tolkien. In the case of the tavern called "The Nine Rings" or
something in Caemlin (or was it Whitebridge?) which Rand (I think)
recalled from a childhood story he had read...I sort of chuckled. I think
though it's a bit too much to have Two Rivers Tabac turning up in the
stores ofthe Wavefinder as one of their most valued items...I could only
think of Isenguard and the trade in pipeweed from the Shire...


Jed

Kate Nepveu

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Jed Wyrick (wyr...@fas.harvard.edu) wrote:

: I think


: though it's a bit too much to have Two Rivers Tabac turning up in the
: stores ofthe Wavefinder as one of their most valued items...I could only
: think of Isenguard and the trade in pipeweed from the Shire...

Likewise... does this mean the Two Rivers is going to hell now that
Perrin has left?

Kate
--
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"Yes, Master. You know? They're the thinner ones with the pale
faces? Because we're a *university*? They come with the whole
thing, like rats--"
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Magnus Itland

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kne...@lynx.dac.neu.edu (Kate Nepveu) wrote:

>=> I guess PMS Escape didn't survive the breaking (I haven't used it
>myself, but my mother swears by it.)

Have we ever seen any of the female characters suffering from PMS?
(Provided we have ever seen them NOT suppering thus...)
I think no, and like the acne and constipation I think it's eradicated
by regular use of herbs and/or 2Rivers tabac ... :)

Troy N. Terry

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Magnus Itland wrote:
>
> kne...@lynx.dac.neu.edu (Kate Nepveu) wrote:
>
> >=> I guess PMS Escape didn't survive the breaking (I haven't used it
> >myself, but my mother swears by it.)
>
> Have we ever seen any of the female characters suffering from PMS?
> (Provided we have ever seen them NOT suppering thus...)

Well, we've seen a lot of _male_ characters suffering from PMS... ;)


> I think no, and like the acne and constipation I think it's eradicated
> by regular use of herbs and/or 2Rivers tabac ... :)
>

Most of the cool characters in WOT smoke -- do you think
Jordan is trying to tell us something? Maybe he's being
paid off. I know for a few thousand bucks I'd certainly
allow a little product placement in my story...

Although, come to think of it, we don't see a lot of
sickness and disease in Randland. Must be all those
herb-women (Wisdoms, Wise Women, etc). Hmm.

Yours,
T. Terry
Wondering if Nynaeve has any, ah, _special_ herbs
in that little bag of hers.

Gwydion

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"Troy N. Terry" <tr...@eventus.com> wrote:

>Magnus Itland wrote:
>>
>> kne...@lynx.dac.neu.edu (Kate Nepveu) wrote:
>>
>> >=> I guess PMS Escape didn't survive the breaking (I haven't used it
>> >myself, but my mother swears by it.)
>>
>> Have we ever seen any of the female characters suffering from PMS?
>> (Provided we have ever seen them NOT suppering thus...)

>Well, we've seen a lot of _male_ characters suffering from PMS... ;)

Post-Mad-Sex?

We've only seen Rand go bug-shit after he and the latest get naked and
boink.

>> I think no, and like the acne and constipation I think it's eradicated
>> by regular use of herbs and/or 2Rivers tabac ... :)
>>

>Most of the cool characters in WOT smoke -- do you think
>Jordan is trying to tell us something? Maybe he's being
>paid off. I know for a few thousand bucks I'd certainly
>allow a little product placement in my story...

Or it could just be the fact that in that age-period, little things
like lung-cancer aren't known or particularly worried about. Healing
can cure ANYTHING short of death


.
>Although, come to think of it, we don't see a lot of
>sickness and disease in Randland. Must be all those
>herb-women (Wisdoms, Wise Women, etc). Hmm.

Well, all the Wise Women in Ebou Dar are Wilders, and herbal healing
seems to be damn near a science to the various Wisdoms, Mother
whatevers and the rest.

>Wondering if Nynaeve has any, ah, _special_ herbs
>in that little bag of hers.

What did you think "tabac" *is*?

Gwydion
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http://don.skidmore.edu/~domalley


Magnus Itland

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doma...@skidmore.edu (Gwydion) wrote:

>What did you think "tabac" *is*?

All purpose mind enhancing herb ... :)

And it obviously prevents acne, from the fact that none of our Teen
Heroes seem to suffer from this horrible scourge of youth.

Gwydion

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itl...@sn.no (Magnus Itland) wrote:

>doma...@skidmore.edu (Gwydion) wrote:
>
>>What did you think "tabac" *is*?
>
>All purpose mind enhancing herb ... :)
>
>And it obviously prevents acne, from the fact that none of our Teen
>Heroes seem to suffer from this horrible scourge of youth.

If you want to get right down to it, it seems to be the wonder drug of
the Ages. No acne, no rotting teeth, no scurvy or malnutrition, no
problems with corns, dandruff, or the heartbreak of psorisis, no
premature ejacu^H^H^Hoverly excited badgers...

Ola Nilsson

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In article <32289F...@eventus.com>, "Troy N. Terry" <tr...@eventus.com> writes:
> Most of the cool characters in WOT smoke -- do you think
> Jordan is trying to tell us something? Maybe he's being
> paid off. I know for a few thousand bucks I'd certainly
> allow a little product placement in my story...
>
Or, it could just be the fact that RJ "enjoys the indoor sport of
pipe collecting" (I think that's stated in the author information
in the books) and is sick of beeing told to quit smoking.
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Magnus Itland

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doma...@skidmore.edu (Gwydion) wrote:

>itl...@sn.no (Magnus Itland) wrote:

>>doma...@skidmore.edu (Gwydion) wrote:
>>
>>>What did you think "tabac" *is*?
>>
>>All purpose mind enhancing herb ... :)
>>
>>And it obviously prevents acne, from the fact that none of our Teen
>>Heroes seem to suffer from this horrible scourge of youth.

>If you want to get right down to it, it seems to be the wonder drug of
>the Ages. No acne, no rotting teeth, no scurvy or malnutrition, no
>problems with corns, dandruff, or the heartbreak of psorisis, no
>premature ejacu^H^H^Hoverly excited badgers...

Aaargh, I forgot about the badgers. Let us face the fact: Our
Teen Heroes would be a sorry sight if not for the Tabac.

How would three barely bearded boys lead armies to victory if
not for the mind-enhancing effect of a good pipe of Tabac?
(An let me once again elaborate on the well known fact that no
army has ever won a major victory under a general with zits.
They are VERY demoralizing, you know.)

It's really too bad that when the Wheel of time has run around
to our age again, most of the effects of Tabac will be gone.
It's descendant just barely has the power to transform ordinary
burger bellies into handsome cowboys for as long as the smoke lasts.

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