Oh piss off *spoilers*
Dropkick Punt
the day by doing something clever, finding some means to expell the Aliens
into another dimension - or tricking the Alien leader into defeating
himself somehow, not by kicking his ass in a sword fight.
They are turning the Doctor into T J Hooker.
Jeremiah Harbottle
It's not even that good!
Frankymole
"Jeremiah Harbottle" <nik...@REMOVETHIS.nildram.REMOVETHIS.co.uk> wrote in
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>> They are turning the Doctor into T J Hooker.
>
> It's not even that good!
If Alicia Rhodes takes over and reprises her role (they could call it BJ
Hooker ;-)) then I'm tuning in!!
--
Frank
"Incidentally, I'm a bit alarmed by your assumptions that thinking and
laughing are mutually exclusive activities. Best wishes, Douglas Adams"
Frankymole
"Dropkick Punt" <notreal...@all.com> wrote in message
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> This is not the Doctor I grew up with. The Doctor I grew up with would win
> the day by doing something clever, finding some means to expell the Aliens
> into another dimension - or tricking the Alien leader into defeating
> himself somehow, not by kicking his ass in a sword fight.
Well I grew up with Pertwee then early Tom - both of whom won by swordfights
at least once!
Better a sword than that bloody sonic screwdriver.
Ian Salsbury
"Dropkick Punt" <notreal...@all.com> wrote in message
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So those swordfights in The Sea Devils and Androids of Tara were just my
imagination then?
Frankymole
"Ian Salsbury" <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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I want a DVD of your imagination. It's a nice place to be.
Ian Salsbury
"Frankymole" <ask_f...@onthegroup.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Ian Salsbury" <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:dos0g1$dk$1...@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
>>
>>
>> "Dropkick Punt" <notreal...@all.com> wrote in message
>> news:dornot$lvr$1...@news-02.connect.com.au...
>>> This is not the Doctor I grew up with. The Doctor I grew up with would
>>> win
>>> the day by doing something clever, finding some means to expell the
>>> Aliens
>>> into another dimension - or tricking the Alien leader into defeating
>>> himself somehow, not by kicking his ass in a sword fight.
>>>
>>> They are turning the Doctor into T J Hooker.
>>
>> So those swordfights in The Sea Devils and Androids of Tara were just my
>> imagination then?
>
>
> I want a DVD of your imagination. It's a nice place to be.
I would love to be able to "record" my dreams. But I`m not at all sure I`d
be willing to show them to anyone!!
Teh Wraith
>
> I would love to be able to "record" my dreams. But I`m not at all sure I`d
> be willing to show them to anyone!!
>
Boy I would share mine if I could record them. I'd be a rich bastid too. :)
-Wraith-
Can you say Pr0n :)
Dropkick Punt
I don't give a shit. For earlier Doctors it was the exception, not the
rule.
Even Christopher Eccleston sorted out the Slveen with a computer, proving
that the brain is more powerful than the boot.
But the first thing this pair of tits on a bull does is flex his muscles
and "kick some ass". I know that impresses Americans, because here's
already loads upon loads upon loads of television and comic book cardboard
cutouts who solve problems by applying mindless violence. Like George
W Bush.
But why do we need yet another?
Maybe they're trying to make him palatable for the American market?
Either way, the writers on this show are lame.
Ronnie Clark
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I'd probably just get arrested!
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Yeah, lots of sword-fights in "T.J. Hooker."
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Ian Salsbury
>> So those swordfights in The Sea Devils and Androids of Tara were just my
>> imagination then?
>
> I don't give a shit. For earlier Doctors it was the exception, not the
> rule.
So since the relaunch of Dr Who swordfights have been the rule have they?
LOL.
> But the first thing this pair of tits on a bull does is flex his muscles
> and "kick some ass".
> I know that impresses Americans, because here's
> already loads upon loads upon loads of television and comic book cardboard
> cutouts who solve problems by applying mindless violence. Like George
> W Bush.
>
> But why do we need yet another?
>
> Maybe they're trying to make him palatable for the American market?
There were regular action/fight scenes involving the Doctor during Jon
Pertwee`s era and Colin Baker was quite prone to a bit of physical violence
as well. Tom Baker threw his fists around during Seeds of Doom. If you`re
going to troll at least research your subject matter. I`m sure DT would be
chuffed to bits at the suggestion he "flexed his muscles" though! He`s
hardly Arnie Schwarzenegger is he?!
Dropkick Punt
>>> So those swordfights in The Sea Devils and Androids of Tara were just
>>> my imagination then?
>>
>> I don't give a shit. For earlier Doctors it was the exception, not the
>> rule.
>
> So since the relaunch of Dr Who swordfights have been the rule have they?
> LOL.
It's his first Act as the Doctor. Ergo, so far: yes.
>
>> But the first thing this pair of tits on a bull does is flex his muscles
>> and "kick some ass".
>> I know that impresses Americans, because here's already loads upon loads
>> upon loads of television and comic book cardboard cutouts who solve
>> problems by applying mindless violence. Like George W Bush.
>>
>> But why do we need yet another?
>>
>> Maybe they're trying to make him palatable for the American market?
>
>
> There were regular action/fight scenes involving the Doctor during Jon
> Pertwee`s era and Colin Baker was quite prone to a bit of physical
> violence as well. Tom Baker threw his fists around during Seeds of Doom.
> If you`re going to troll at least research your subject matter.
> I`m sure
> DT would be chuffed to bits at the suggestion he "flexed his muscles"
> though! He`s hardly Arnie Schwarzenegger is he?!
No he's not. Which is what makes his debut Act as the Doctor all the more
stupid and implausible.
The writers on this show are lame.
Frankymole
> On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 19:52:07 +0000, Ian Salsbury wrote:
>
>>>> So those swordfights in The Sea Devils and Androids of Tara were just
>>>> my imagination then?
>>>
>>> I don't give a shit. For earlier Doctors it was the exception, not the
>>> rule.
>>
>> So since the relaunch of Dr Who swordfights have been the rule have they?
>> LOL.
>
> It's his first Act as the Doctor. Ergo, so far: yes.
Skipping was the rule for TomDoc, and careering around in out-of-control
wheelchairs was the rule for PErtweeDoc.
You, sir, are a fool.
Frankymole
> On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 18:18:54 +0000, Ian Salsbury wrote:
>
>
>> "Dropkick Punt" <notreal...@all.com> wrote in message
>> news:dornot$lvr$1...@news-02.connect.com.au...
>>> This is not the Doctor I grew up with. The Doctor I grew up with would
>>> win the day by doing something clever, finding some means to expell the
>>> Aliens into another dimension - or tricking the Alien leader into
>>> defeating himself somehow, not by kicking his ass in a sword fight.
>>>
>>> They are turning the Doctor into T J Hooker.
>>
>> So those swordfights in The Sea Devils and Androids of Tara were just my
>> imagination then?
>
> I don't give a shit. For earlier Doctors it was the exception, not the
> rule.
>
> Even Christopher Eccleston sorted out the Slveen with a computer, proving
> that the brain is more powerful than the boot.
>
> But the first thing this pair of tits on a bull does is flex his muscles
> and "kick some ass". I know that impresses Americans, because here's
> already loads upon loads upon loads of television and comic book cardboard
> cutouts who solve problems by applying mindless violence. Like George
> W Bush.
You are RTD and I claim my five talmars.
Dropkick Punt
> "Dropkick Punt" <notreal...@all.com> wrote in message
> news:dos791$dh1$1...@news-02.connect.com.au...
>> On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 19:52:07 +0000, Ian Salsbury wrote:
>>
>>>>> So those swordfights in The Sea Devils and Androids of Tara were just
>>>>> my imagination then?
>>>>
>>>> I don't give a shit. For earlier Doctors it was the exception, not the
>>>> rule.
>>>
>>> So since the relaunch of Dr Who swordfights have been the rule have
>>> they? LOL.
>>
>> It's his first Act as the Doctor. Ergo, so far: yes.
>
> Skipping was the rule for TomDoc, and careering around in out-of-control
> wheelchairs was the rule for PErtweeDoc.
>
> You, sir, are a fool.
That's what most people tell me when I disparage their reason for living.
Sad isn't it?
Ian Salsbury
>> So since the relaunch of Dr Who swordfights have been the rule have they?
>> LOL.
>
> It's his first Act as the Doctor. Ergo, so far: yes.
Laughable. I can just imagine your critique after Pertwee`s first episode -
how dare they place the Doctor in a wheelchair, he`s never needed one
before, if it`s happened in his very first eps then it`s obvious it`ll
happen again and again.
> No he's not. Which is what makes his debut Act as the Doctor all the more
> stupid and implausible.
Dr Who has always been stupid and implausible. It`s what I love about it. Go
back and watch some, I`m begining to doubt you ever have. Tennant was so
Doctorish I`m guessing he`s spent his life preparing for the role!
> The writers on this show are lame.
Best you watch no more then because the format won`t be changing. Too many
people disagree with you to make change a sensible option.
Ian Salsbury
>> You, sir, are a fool.
>
> That's what most people tell me when I disparage their reason for living.
I imagine most people tell you that for any reason.
> Sad isn't it?
How sad it is to discuss the various merits of a TV show on an internet
newsgroup is a moot point. But what is infinitely sadder is to troll the
same newsgroup when you have little to no interest in the TV show at all!
Alan G McWhan
> On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 18:18:54 +0000, Ian Salsbury wrote:
>
>
>> "Dropkick Punt" <notreal...@all.com> wrote in message
>> news:dornot$lvr$1...@news-02.connect.com.au...
>>> This is not the Doctor I grew up with. The Doctor I grew up with would
>>> win the day by doing something clever, finding some means to expell the
>>> Aliens into another dimension - or tricking the Alien leader into
>>> defeating himself somehow, not by kicking his ass in a sword fight.
>>>
>>> They are turning the Doctor into T J Hooker.
>>
>> So those swordfights in The Sea Devils and Androids of Tara were just my
>> imagination then?
>
> I don't give a shit. For earlier Doctors it was the exception, not the
> rule.
For earlier Doctors, they've had more than one fucking story. Jesus Christ,
that's the most fucking pointlessly spurious argument I've ever hear in my
fucking life.
Dropkick Punt
>>> You, sir, are a fool.
>>
>> That's what most people tell me when I disparage their reason for
>> living.
>
> I imagine most people tell you that for any reason.
>
>> Sad isn't it?
>
> How sad it is to discuss the various merits of a TV show on an internet
> newsgroup is a moot point.
Indeed it is a moot point. What's sad is brimming with anger with someone
and lashing out at them because they don't like your favourite tv show.
Can anyone think of anything sadder? ffs people get a life.
> But what is infinitely sadder is to troll the same newsgroup when you
> have little to no interest in the TV show at all!
As a boy, I watched most of the late Jon Pertwee episodes, with Sarah Jane
Smith, all of the Tom Baker episodes, and lost interest early during Peter
Davison's tenure.
I may not be a Professor of DoctorWho-ology like you, but I don't think I
need such high qualifications to say that it is lame.
Dropkick Punt
>> The writers on this show are lame.
>
> Best you watch no more then because the format won`t be changing. Too many
> people disagree with you to make change a sensible option.
Yeah the producers of Big Brother and Neighbours would probably disagree
with me too.
Frankymole
It may be your reason for living but it certainly isn't mine. Try to think
beyond your own trollish world.
Frankymole
>
>
>>> So since the relaunch of Dr Who swordfights have been the rule have
>>> they?
>>> LOL.
>>
>> It's his first Act as the Doctor. Ergo, so far: yes.
>
> Laughable. I can just imagine your critique after Pertwee`s first
> episode - how dare they place the Doctor in a wheelchair, he`s never
> needed one before, if it`s happened in his very first eps then it`s
> obvious it`ll happen again and again.
LOL I had the same thought.
> > No he's not. Which is what makes his debut Act as the Doctor all the
> > more
>> stupid and implausible.
>>
> Dr Who has always been stupid and implausible. It`s what I love about it.
> Go back and watch some, I`m begining to doubt you ever have. Tennant was
> so Doctorish I`m guessing he`s spent his life preparing for the role!
He has. Thank goodness!
>> The writers on this show are lame.
>
> Best you watch no more then because the format won`t be changing. Too many
> people disagree with you to make change a sensible option.
Even contrary old me!
Frankymole
>
>
>>> You, sir, are a fool.
>>
>> That's what most people tell me when I disparage their reason for living.
>
> I imagine most people tell you that for any reason.
LOL! Touche'. Perfect.
You, sir, are a fine wit. (no irony)
Frankymole
news:dos96s$7a9$1...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
"Dropkick Punt" is obvious rhyming slang ;-)
Frankymole
> On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 20:36:26 +0000, Ian Salsbury wrote:
>
>
>
>>>> You, sir, are a fool.
>>>
>>> That's what most people tell me when I disparage their reason for
>>> living.
>>
>> I imagine most people tell you that for any reason.
>>
>>> Sad isn't it?
>>
>> How sad it is to discuss the various merits of a TV show on an internet
>> newsgroup is a moot point.
>
> Indeed it is a moot point. What's sad is brimming with anger with someone
> and lashing out at them because they don't like your favourite tv show.
> Can anyone think of anything sadder? ffs people get a life.
I see only one "angry", "lashing" person here and it's you.
We have lives - don't judge us by youor pitiful standards.
>> But what is infinitely sadder is to troll the same newsgroup when you
>> have little to no interest in the TV show at all!
>
> As a boy, I watched most of the late Jon Pertwee episodes, with Sarah Jane
> Smith, all of the Tom Baker episodes, and lost interest early during Peter
> Davison's tenure.
>
> I may not be a Professor of DoctorWho-ology like you, but I don't think I
> need such high qualifications to say that it is lame.
Like we care what you think.
Frankymole
Dunno never watch them. Glad you've had time to.
Ian Salsbury
>> How sad it is to discuss the various merits of a TV show on an internet
>> newsgroup is a moot point.
>
> Indeed it is a moot point. What's sad is brimming with anger with someone
> and lashing out at them because they don't like your favourite tv show.
> Can anyone think of anything sadder? ffs people get a life.
Where have I "brimmed with anger"? I`ve countered some of the points you`ve
made as they`ve been poor ones. Your original posts seemed quite angsty to
me to be honest anyhow.
> As a boy, I watched most of the late Jon Pertwee episodes, with Sarah
Jane
> Smith, all of the Tom Baker episodes, and lost interest early during Peter
> Davison's tenure.
Sounds much the same as me. I love Dr Who during the mid to late 60`s
through to the late 70`s. After that it`s very variable and more often than
not rubbish...before that if I`m honest it`s too stodgy and slow for my
liking ( I`m not a big fan of the Hartnell era ). Which makes it odd as to
why you hate this new series so much. I`ll put the point to you that I`ve
put before - this new Dr Who isn`t terribly different from what it was in
it`s heyday, it`s still silly, the plots are still inconsistent, it`s still
great fun to watch , the Doctor is still an eccentric madman who believes in
doing right and gets out of situations sometimes in incredibly daft ways.
It`s been updated for a new generation and updated perfectly. However, I
think some people wanted it to suit what they are now rather than what they
were as a kid, for it to be some new, adult Who. I love the fact kids like
Dr Who again. I visited the exhibition in Brighton when I was there for a
football match and thought it was fantastic to see kids in awe of daleks
again, running around shouting "exterminate" and gazing mesmerized at
re-runs of the new series on the giant screens. The show is about kids far
more than it is us jaded 30 somethings and they seem to love it. For me, I
see much of what it always was, it`s perfect saturday night family
entertainment. If you want high brow or deep intellectual ponderings look
elsewhere...Dr Who was never about that IMO.
> I may not be a Professor of DoctorWho-ology like you, but I don't think I
> need such high qualifications to say that it is lame.
Your opinions are your own, however I honestly believe you`re looking for
something in new Dr Who that would make it something it`s never been nor
intended to be.
Ian Salsbury
"Dropkick Punt" <notreal...@all.com> wrote in message
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So don`t watch them either. I don`t. My point there was, if you don`t like
it stay away. It`s a *massive* success. Both commercially and critically.
You may not like it but it`s what it is and that`s what it`s going to be. No
point getting worked up about it, just move along and watch something that
tickles your undercarriage a tad more.
The Doctor
Jeremiah Harbottle <nik...@REMOVETHIS.nildram.REMOVETHIS.co.uk> wrote:
>> They are turning the Doctor into T J Hooker.
>
>
>
The doctor as William Shatner??
Flame ALERT!!
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Mike Morris
Dropkick Punt wrote:
> This is not the Doctor I grew up with. The Doctor I grew up with would win
> the day by doing something clever, finding some means to expell the Aliens
> into another dimension - or tricking the Alien leader into defeating
> himself somehow, not by kicking his ass in a sword fight.
I agree wholeheartedly. Doctor Who should always remain the same, and
never adapt with the times or try and relate to its constantly changing
audience in new ways.
I even heard a rumour the other day that David Tennant and Tom Baker
are completely different people. It's a disgrace.
Teh Wraith
"Ronnie Clark" <ron...@blugman.chopped_ham_and_pork_b_gone.freeserve.co.uk>
wrote in message news:dos5e0$4gn$1...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
>
> "Teh Wraith" <ham_fisted@bun_vendor.net> wrote in message
> news:Hzgsf.10797$NS.4413@dukeread04...
>>
>> "Ian Salsbury" <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:dos1l3$mqc$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
>>
>> >
>> > I would love to be able to "record" my dreams. But I`m not at all sure
> I`d
>> > be willing to show them to anyone!!
>> >
>>
>> Boy I would share mine if I could record them. I'd be a rich bastid too.
> :)
>
> I'd probably just get arrested!
>
>
> --
> Ronnie
> --
But but but why?
-Wraith-
Jeff Jenson
Ian Salsbury wrote:
> It`s been updated for a new generation and updated perfectly. However, I
> think some people wanted it to suit what they are now rather than what they
> were as a kid, for it to be some new, adult Who. I love the fact kids like
> Dr Who again. I visited the exhibition in Brighton when I was there for a
> football match and thought it was fantastic to see kids in awe of daleks
> again, running around shouting "exterminate" and gazing mesmerized at
> re-runs of the new series on the giant screens. The show is about kids far
> more than it is us jaded 30 somethings and they seem to love it.
The only thing that bothers me is the sexual innuendo in this new
Doctor Who. Like when Rose informed her Mum that The Doctor has two
hearts and her Mum wonders what else he might have two of.
We never had such kind of talk before on Doctor Who before the New
Series.
But if that is the way that British Culture is going with shows made
with children in mind, I will just have to go just accept that. After
all it's a show that reflects their culture not mine and therefore I
can't complain.
Leviathan
> The only thing that bothers me is the sexual innuendo in this new
> Doctor Who. Like when Rose informed her Mum that The Doctor has two
> hearts and her Mum wonders what else he might have two of.
There's nothing on-screen that makes that line sexual. That's your
contribution.
Frankymole
"Leviathan" <jsh...@leviathanstudios.com> wrote in message
news:1f6gssxwws9u4$.nfc98uga01iv.dlg@40tude.net...
> On 28 Dec 2005 00:15:31 -0800, Jeff Jenson wrote:
>
>> The only thing that bothers me is the sexual innuendo in this new
>> Doctor Who. Like when Rose informed her Mum that The Doctor has two
>> hearts and her Mum wonders what else he might have two of.
>
> There's nothing on-screen that makes that line sexual. That's your
> contribution.
I think you may need to look up the word "innuendo".
As for explicit sexual referecnes, we've had those too; Rose has been asked
if she is the Doctor's prostitute, concubine, sexual companion etc.
Jeremiah Harbottle
>> It`s been updated for a new generation and updated perfectly. However, I
>> think some people wanted it to suit what they are now rather than what
>> they
>> were as a kid, for it to be some new, adult Who. I love the fact kids
>> like
Stuff like "Unquiet Dead" and "Empty Child" and a few others more than hold
their own against old who. The only difference is the short story time and
some CGI effects. (Which is a weakness in Unquiet Dead, as the story seemed
to end rather too suddenly, but worked well in Dalek & Empty Child had two
episodes).
Garbage like Christmas Invasion and the rest of RTD's poorly plotted crap
ranks up there with Panto-fests like Silver Nemesis, Delta and the Bannermen
& that awful story with Bertie Bassett. Oh, and Battlefield.
Dburns
> This is not the Doctor I grew up with. The Doctor I grew up with would win
> the day by doing something clever, finding some means to expell the Aliens
> into another dimension - or tricking the Alien leader into defeating
> himself somehow, not by kicking his ass in a sword fight.
>
If it bothers you this much, I suggest turning the television off or watch
something esle.
Dburns
> On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 18:18:54 +0000, Ian Salsbury wrote:
>
>
>> news:dornot$lvr$1...@news-02.connect.com.au...
>>> This is not the Doctor I grew up with. The Doctor I grew up with would
>>> win the day by doing something clever, finding some means to expell the
>>> Aliens into another dimension - or tricking the Alien leader into
>>> defeating himself somehow, not by kicking his ass in a sword fight.
>>>
>>> They are turning the Doctor into T J Hooker.
>>
>> imagination then?
>
> I don't give a shit.
Since you don't give a shit, then you belong in the killfile with the rest
of the shit.
Frankymole
"Jeff Jenson" <jeffjenson...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1135757731.6...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Does your country even have a "culture"? Or are you in America, which is
according to Oscar Wilde "the only country to go from barbarism to decadence
without the usual intervening period of civilisation".
Frankymole
"Three buts? Makes you sound a very contrarian young lady!"
The Doctor
Jeremiah Harbottle
> Troublemaker.
Yawn.
Tasem
"Dropkick Punt" <notreal...@all.com> wrote in message
news:dornot$lvr$1...@news-02.connect.com.au...
> This is not the Doctor I grew up with. The Doctor I grew up with would win
> the day by doing something clever, finding some means to expell the Aliens
> into another dimension - or tricking the Alien leader into defeating
> himself somehow, not by kicking his ass in a sword fight.
>
> They are turning the Doctor into T J Hooker.
You're just noticing this NOW?
Frankymole
"Tasem" <tr...@dop.net> wrote in message
news:douj6i$frq$1...@rainier.uits.indiana.edu...
Perhaps you can explain what "T J Hooker" means in this context. Alien
invasions don't appear in cop shows.
Simon Brooke
Jenson ('jeffjenson...@yahoo.com') wrote:
>
> Ian Salsbury wrote:
>> It`s been updated for a new generation and updated perfectly. However,
>> I think some people wanted it to suit what they are now rather than
>> what they were as a kid, for it to be some new, adult Who. I love the
>> fact kids like Dr Who again. I visited the exhibition in Brighton when
>> I was there for a football match and thought it was fantastic to see
>> kids in awe of daleks again, running around shouting "exterminate" and
>> gazing mesmerized at re-runs of the new series on the giant screens.
>> The show is about kids far more than it is us jaded 30 somethings and
>> they seem to love it.
>
> The only thing that bothers me is the sexual innuendo in this new
> Doctor Who. Like when Rose informed her Mum that The Doctor has two
> hearts and her Mum wonders what else he might have two of.
>
> We never had such kind of talk before on Doctor Who before the New
> Series.
I really don't see this as a problem. Children will miss this sort of
thing anyway - the only people who will notice it are people old enough
to be amused by it. There was a similar incident in 'Rose':
Jacky: There's a strange man in my bedroom...
The Doctor: Yes, there is.
Jacky: Anything could happen.
The Doctor: No, I don't think so!
It's a touch of humour which helps to keep adults watching.
> But if that is the way that British Culture is going with shows made
> with children in mind, I will just have to go just accept that. After
> all it's a show that reflects their culture not mine and therefore I
> can't complain.
Well, I think it is. We're less hysterically overprotective towards
children than I think the US now is. That isn't to say we're not
hysterically overprotective, too, but it's just a matter of degree.
I was looking at an official Icelandic website recently showing pictures
of children playing. The children - about eight years old, wearing life
jackets and warm clothes - were playing, chest deep, in rapids on a
river coming off a glacier, in very turbulent water with sharp rocks.
There were no adults nearby. It just would not be allowed in this
country.
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who are now possible remain possible -- Michael Bakunin
Manky Badger
"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
news:dou8jd$rvt$8...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
> In article <LMadnUiqhfH...@giganews.com>,
> Jeremiah Harbottle <nik...@nildram.REMOVE.THIS.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>> It`s been updated for a new generation and updated perfectly. However,
>>>> I
>>>> think some people wanted it to suit what they are now rather than what
>>>> they
>>>> were as a kid, for it to be some new, adult Who. I love the fact kids
>>>> like
>>
>>Stuff like "Unquiet Dead" and "Empty Child" and a few others more than
>>hold
>>their own against old who. The only difference is the short story time and
>>some CGI effects. (Which is a weakness in Unquiet Dead, as the story
>>seemed
>>to end rather too suddenly, but worked well in Dalek & Empty Child had two
>>episodes).
>>
>>Garbage like Christmas Invasion and the rest of RTD's poorly plotted crap
>>ranks up there with Panto-fests like Silver Nemesis, Delta and the
>>Bannermen
>>& that awful story with Bertie Bassett. Oh, and Battlefield.
>>
>
> Troublemaker.
Do elaborate
Jeff Jenson
There was a kind of explicit conversation between Rose and the Doctor
about Captain Jack regarding how due to the century he was from he was
quite libertine with having sex with all kinds of alien races.
sig...@binet.is
Simon Brooke wrote:
> I really don't see this as a problem. Children will miss this sort of
> thing anyway - the only people who will notice it are people old enough
> to be amused by it. There was a similar incident in 'Rose':
>
> Jacky: There's a strange man in my bedroom...
> The Doctor: Yes, there is.
> Jacky: Anything could happen.
> The Doctor: No, I don't think so!
>
> It's a touch of humour which helps to keep adults watching.
>
> > But if that is the way that British Culture is going with shows made
> > with children in mind, I will just have to go just accept that. After
> > all it's a show that reflects their culture not mine and therefore I
> > can't complain.
>
> Well, I think it is. We're less hysterically overprotective towards
> children than I think the US now is. That isn't to say we're not
> hysterically overprotective, too, but it's just a matter of degree.
>
> I was looking at an official Icelandic website recently showing pictures
> of children playing. The children - about eight years old, wearing life
> jackets and warm clothes - were playing, chest deep, in rapids on a
> river coming off a glacier, in very turbulent water with sharp rocks.
> There were no adults nearby. It just would not be allowed in this
> country.
I do not think this is allowed here in Iceland either, what was the
website?
L. Ross Raszewski
You mean the explicit conversation about dancing?
http://www.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ParentalBonus
Stephen Wilson
"Dropkick Punt" <notreal...@all.com> wrote in message
news:dornot$lvr$1...@news-02.connect.com.au...
> This is not the Doctor I grew up with. The Doctor I grew up with would win
> the day by doing something clever, finding some means to expell the Aliens
> into another dimension - or tricking the Alien leader into defeating
> himself somehow, not by kicking his ass in a sword fight.
>
> They are turning the Doctor into T J Hooker.
I *liked* TJ Hooker!
Night Spirit
<snipped>
> There was a kind of explicit conversation between Rose and the Doctor
> about Captain Jack regarding how due to the century he was from he was
> quite libertine with having sex with all kinds of alien races.
--
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Jeremiah Harbottle
Oh don't worry about him, he doesn't seem to accept that some us were less
than impressed by the "Xmas Invasion" [*]
[*] The same person who wasn't impressed by the Xmas invasion (IE ME) did
like half of the CE Who, and wasn't slightly bothered by the alleged
"Updating" for a "new generation".
Michel Boucher
$q4.1...@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net:
>> They are turning the Doctor into T J Hooker.
>
> I *liked* TJ Hooker!
I liked Heather Locklear on T J Hooker.
--
"Et nunc reges intelligite erudmini, qui judicatis terram."
"Rancor is an outpouring of a feeling of inferiority."
Jose Ortega Y Gasset
The Doctor
Jeremiah Harbottle <nik...@REMOVETHIS.nildram.REMOVETHIS.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Troublemaker.
>
>Yawn.
>
>
>
You are boring.
The Doctor
Stephen Wilson
"Michel Boucher" <alsa...@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:Xns973AB8B6CB66...@216.196.97.131...
> "Stephen Wilson" <sr.w...@ntlworld.com> wrote in news:QTDsf.18462
> $q4.1...@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net:
>
>>> They are turning the Doctor into T J Hooker.
>>
>> I *liked* TJ Hooker!
>
> I liked Heather Locklear on T J Hooker.
Me too!! (and Leslie Ash in Cats Eyes - before she turned into a trout).
Simon Brooke
Jenson ('jeffjenson...@yahoo.com') wrote:
>
> Simon Brooke wrote:
>> in message <1135757731.6...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>> Jeff Jenson ('jeffjenson...@yahoo.com') wrote:
>>
>> > The only thing that bothers me is the sexual innuendo in this new
>> > Doctor Who. Like when Rose informed her Mum that The Doctor has two
>> > hearts and her Mum wonders what else he might have two of.
>> >
>> > We never had such kind of talk before on Doctor Who before the New
>> > Series.
>>
>> I really don't see this as a problem. Children will miss this sort of
>> thing anyway - the only people who will notice it are people old
>> enough to be amused by it. There was a similar incident in 'Rose':
>
> There was a kind of explicit conversation between Rose and the Doctor
> about Captain Jack regarding how due to the century he was from he was
> quite libertine with having sex with all kinds of alien races.
Again, do you think a child would have picked up on that? If so, how?
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Simon Brooke
> Simon Brooke wrote:
>
>> Well, I think it is. We're less hysterically overprotective towards
>> children than I think the US now is. That isn't to say we're not
>> hysterically overprotective, too, but it's just a matter of degree.
>>
>> I was looking at an official Icelandic website recently showing
>> pictures of children playing. The children - about eight years old,
>> wearing life jackets and warm clothes - were playing, chest deep, in
>> rapids on a river coming off a glacier, in very turbulent water with
>> sharp rocks. There were no adults nearby. It just would not be allowed
>> in this country.
>
> I do not think this is allowed here in Iceland either, what was the
> website?
Tourist board for somewhere in East Iceland, I think. I'll see if I can
find it again - I've been looking at a lot of East Iceland websites
recently.
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;; that he makes and we should just support that'
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Deep Fried Lettuce
kim wrote:
> "Jeff Jenson" <jeffjenson...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1135757731.6...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > Doctor Who. Like when Rose informed her Mum that The Doctor has two
> > hearts and her Mum wonders what else he might have two of.
> >
> > We never had such kind of talk before on Doctor Who before the New
> > Series.
> >
> > with children in mind, I will just have to go just accept that. After
> > all it's a show that reflects their culture not mine and therefore I
> > can't complain.
>
> all American productions these days including those specifically made for
> "family" audiences?
OMG I actually agree......
America is such a conundrum..
ON one hand they host movies that have buckets of violence
and people getting shot for almost no reason at all sometimes
and yet if you dare put on a movie that has dare I say it "sex"
in it they get very prudish and act coy or try to censor or ban
the movie.... I can't work yanks out......
Why do they frown upon sex yet relish violence?
Simon Brooke
Fried Lettuce ('sittingi...@internode.on.net') wrote:
> I can't work yanks out......
>
> Why do they frown upon sex yet relish violence?
The enigma that is America in nine words. Do you mind if I steal that for
a .sig?
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;; I'd rather live in sybar-space
Stevo
> Me too!! (and Leslie Ash in Cats Eyes - before she turned into a
> trout).
Yeah but those lips must be good for something surely? :-)
The Doctor
Simon Brooke <si...@jasmine.org.uk> wrote:
>in message <1135796391.6...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Jeff
>Jenson ('jeffjenson...@yahoo.com') wrote:
>
>>
>> Simon Brooke wrote:
>>> in message <1135757731.6...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>>> Jeff Jenson ('jeffjenson...@yahoo.com') wrote:
>>>
>>> > The only thing that bothers me is the sexual innuendo in this new
>>> > Doctor Who. Like when Rose informed her Mum that The Doctor has two
>>> > hearts and her Mum wonders what else he might have two of.
>>> >
>>> > We never had such kind of talk before on Doctor Who before the New
>>> > Series.
>>>
>>> I really don't see this as a problem. Children will miss this sort of
>>> thing anyway - the only people who will notice it are people old
>>> enough to be amused by it. There was a similar incident in 'Rose':
>>
>> There was a kind of explicit conversation between Rose and the Doctor
>> about Captain Jack regarding how due to the century he was from he was
>> quite libertine with having sex with all kinds of alien races.
>
>Again, do you think a child would have picked up on that? If so, how?
>
Maybe. What about the spouting the Doctor's and Rose's Relationship?
The Doctor
Irrational bunch. They are locked in a timewarp still thinking
the world is in the year 1789.
Frankymole
"Deep Fried Lettuce" <sittingi...@internode.on.net> wrote in message
news:1135849890.2...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Because they'd rather see two people being very very horrible to each other
than two people being very very nice to each other.
Think it's something to do with their religious hang-ups, not sure <shrug>.
Frankymole
Bestiality.
L. Ross Raszewski
Maybe we think it's better to glorify a terrible thing than cheapen a
beautiful one.
But probably not.
Manky Badger
Why ?
pe...@capebyron.com
Oh, no, wait, you said tj hooker not lj hooker, never mind.
pe...@capebyron.com
a sword fight.
Ian Salsbury
<pe...@capebyron.com> wrote in message
news:1135886442....@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> He means every single episode of Dr. Who during the Tennant Era has had
> a sword fight.
But seeing as there`s only been one eps it wasn`t a point worth making. I
think I can safely guarantee that there won`t be a sword fight in every S2
story. I`d be surprised if there was another one at all.
Jeff Jenson
The old series didn't need those kind of sexual innuendos, double
ententes and stuff?
Why the change?
Ian Salsbury
>The old series didn't need those kind of sexual innuendos, double
>ententes and stuff?
>
>Why the change?
What about these choice lines from Revenge of the Cybermen??
'Take the Cybermen from behind.'
'We're still heading for the biggest bang in history.'
I`m sure I read somewhere that they had a struggle delivering the "biggest
bang" line with a straight face. And are you seriously trying to tell me the
creature from "Creature from the Pit" looks like a giant knob by accident??
Jeff Jenson
Exactly. Rose is the first companion where you seriously wonder.
Michelle Monarch
>
> >
> > Why do they frown upon sex yet relish violence?
>
> Because they'd rather see two people being very very horrible to each other
> than two people being very very nice to each other.
>
> Think it's something to do with their religious hang-ups, not sure <shrug>.
>
Now now, as an American, I'll fully admit that our culture has some
pretty bizarre double standards about sex and violence. But, at the
same time, it is quite possible to find cheap sex gags unfunny - or
even to be an American - without being a religious maniac, you know.
I like the new Who, and I actually think that naysayers have
exaggerated its 'adult' content. But I also think some of the sex
jokes with Jack seem better suited to 'Sex and the City' or 'Desperate
Housewives,' which are shows I can't watch - not because they deal with
sex, but because their humor's a little cheap, and boring. It's a
matter of personal taste - but one doesn't have to be a Pat Robertson
to yawn at juvenile sex puns.
It's probably more a matter of tradition than anything - I accept that
Doctor Who is different now, and there are a lot of things I really
like about it. But this is one of the things I don't - and I'm the
furthest thing from a religious person, for whatever that's worth.
Michelle
Frankymole
"Michelle Monarch" <michell...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1135892071....@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Frankymole wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Why do they frown upon sex yet relish violence?
>>
>> Because they'd rather see two people being very very horrible to each
>> other
>> than two people being very very nice to each other.
>>
>> Think it's something to do with their religious hang-ups, not sure
>> <shrug>.
>>
>
> Now now, as an American, I'll fully admit that our culture has some
> pretty bizarre double standards about sex and violence. But, at the
> same time, it is quite possible to find cheap sex gags unfunny - or
> even to be an American - without being a religious maniac, you know.
Nononononono - not gags, actual sex. How come you show horrific violence in
your TV movies, but not realistic sex?
That was the point.
Frankymole
"Michelle Monarch" <michell...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1135892071....@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> exaggerated its 'adult' content. But I also think some of the sex
> jokes with Jack seem better suited to 'Sex and the City' or 'Desperate
> Housewives,'
What sex jokes? You mean dancing?
Simon Brooke
Michelle Monarch ('michell...@yahoo.com') wrote:
> Frankymole wrote:
>>
>> > Why do they frown upon sex yet relish violence?
>>
>> Because they'd rather see two people being very very horrible to each
>> other than two people being very very nice to each other.
>>
>> Think it's something to do with their religious hang-ups, not sure
>> <shrug>.
>
> Now now, as an American, I'll fully admit that our culture has some
> pretty bizarre double standards about sex and violence. But, at the
> same time, it is quite possible to find cheap sex gags unfunny - or
> even to be an American - without being a religious maniac, you know.
Yes, it's possible...
No, but seriously, this sort of thing can be overdone. I don't think the
Rose/Ninth Doctor thing was overdone (nor do I think it was 'cheap
gags'). Yes, it was clear there was a level of mutual affection and
attraction, no I didn't for a moment get the impression they were
shagging madly in the back of the TARDIS. Not that I think it would
matter desperately if they were, provided it remained off-stage.
The running gag about the weakness of Jacky's knicker[1] elastic is
fairly subtle and I can't see it as offensive. As for Jack and his
sexual predilections, isn't that entirely in keeping with his character?
In short none of the sexual innuendo in the current Dr Who seems to me
to be 'cheap sex gags'. The 'cheap gags' have been mainly to do with
farting, which like it or not is definitely on children's level.
[1] pantie
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John
> in message <1135849890.2...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, Deep
> Fried Lettuce ('sittingi...@internode.on.net') wrote:
>
> > I can't work yanks out......
> >
> > Why do they frown upon sex yet relish violence?
>
> The enigma that is America in nine words. Do you mind if I steal that for
> a .sig?
Go for it .......
--
And the other thing is Hollywood executives really love the smell of
their own urine and what they really like doing is urinating on things.
And then going, "Hmm, now this smells really good" and being really
puzzled when the rest of the world goes "No, actually it smells like pee."
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The Face of Po
Frankymole got out a spraycan and scrawled the following:
> "Michelle Monarch" <michell...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1135892071....@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > pretty bizarre double standards about sex and violence. But, at the
> > same time, it is quite possible to find cheap sex gags unfunny - or
> > even to be an American - without being a religious maniac, you know.
>
> Nononononono - not gags, actual sex. How come you show horrific violence in
> your TV movies, but not realistic sex?
>
> That was the point.
I think that the BBFC is guilty of similar. Saving Private Ryan and
Passion of the Christ both got the 15 classification - pretty horrific,
but apparently the context excuses it. Nine Songs, with its similarly
reasonable context, got an 18.
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Simon Brooke
('gkenn...@claIrVOYaNT.coLD.DuCk') wrote:
> I was hanging out with the cool kids in rec.arts.drwho when
> Frankymole got out a spraycan and scrawled the following:
>> "Michelle Monarch" <michell...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1135892071....@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> > Now now, as an American, I'll fully admit that our culture has some
>> > pretty bizarre double standards about sex and violence.
>>
>> Nononononono - not gags, actual sex. How come you show horrific
>> violence in your TV movies, but not realistic sex?
>>
>> That was the point.
>
> I think that the BBFC is guilty of similar. Saving Private Ryan and
> Passion of the Christ both got the 15 classification - pretty horrific,
> but apparently the context excuses it. Nine Songs, with its similarly
> reasonable context, got an 18.
I know. One can only conclude that it's because we want our children to
be competent and relaxed when killing, but incompetent and uptight when
it comes to sex.
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;; lakes, running streams and transforms it into a mountain of junk,
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John Russell
> The only thing that bothers me is the sexual innuendo in this new
> Doctor Who. Like when Rose informed her Mum that The Doctor has two
> hearts and her Mum wonders what else he might have two of.
Why should Dr Who be judged in isolation? Ambasador Malari's extra "bits"
where often commented on in Babylon 5, and in far more explicit manner.
And anyway the "innuendo" works on two levels. To a little boy or girl the
joke could mean nothing more than he had an extra "willie" to "pee" through,
only someone who already had sexual knowledge would get the adult innuendo.
Martin
> I think that the BBFC is guilty of similar.
> Saving Private Ryan and Passion of the Christ
> both got the 15 classification - pretty horrific,
> but apparently the context excuses it.
> Nine Songs, with its similarly reasonable context,
> got an 18.
I'm sure the original uncut THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST got an 18 certificate;
it was the edited re-release that got the 15 certificate.
--
Martin
http://martinobrien.co.uk/
Michelle Monarch
>
> Nononononono - not gags, actual sex. How come you show horrific violence in
> your TV movies, but not realistic sex?
>
Oh, I have no idea. Ask the FCC. Like I said, it's a double standard
- it's possible that programmers are afraid their sponsors will be
boycotted by the religious right, but probably an equal part of it is
simply tradition. Realistic sex has never really been done on American
network TV, so when a stray breast or buttock gets flashed over the
airwaves people feel like their personal idea of the way the world
should be is being threatened somehow. It makes no sense to me, and I
do think it perpetuates sexual hangups in the culture, to a certain
extent.
Then again, things are changing a bit, whether the FCC likes it or not.
I've seen episodes of two separate (network) hospital shows that
featured storylines about Viagra overdoses, and they clearly showed
erections under the patients' shorts. I don't remember too many
outraged people raising a stink about that . . . . It's a polarized
culture right now - you can't say either side of the debate gives you
the full picture.
Michelle
Martin
inserting a knife into a woman could be shown, yet a man inserting something
more natural, in a loving way, could not be shown. A good point I thought.
--
Martin
http://martinobrien.co.uk/
Martin
OF THE CHRIST an 18 certificate, but Ireland gave it a 15.
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Michelle Monarch
Frankymole wrote:
>
> "Michelle Monarch" <michell...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1135892071....@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > I like the new Who, and I actually think that naysayers have
> > exaggerated its 'adult' content. But I also think some of the sex
> > jokes with Jack seem better suited to 'Sex and the City' or 'Desperate
> > Housewives,'
>
> What sex jokes? You mean dancing?
>
No, I meant like the exchange between Jack and the army officer when
Jack is first introduced, or some of the stuff in the 'What Not to
Wear' sequence. Please don't back me into a corner on this one - I
don't want to suggest I think it's a huge problem, because I don't!
But there were just a couple moments where I rolled my eyes because I
thought some jokes were merely smarmy rather than genuinely funny. But
of course that's subjective.
Michell
Michelle Monarch
Simon Brooke wrote:
>
> No, but seriously, this sort of thing can be overdone. I don't think the
> Rose/Ninth Doctor thing was overdone (nor do I think it was 'cheap
> gags'). Yes, it was clear there was a level of mutual affection and
> attraction, no I didn't for a moment get the impression they were
> shagging madly in the back of the TARDIS. Not that I think it would
> matter desperately if they were, provided it remained off-stage.
>
No no, I was talking more about Jack when I was talking about 'cheap
gags.' I agree with you that none of it was overdone, especially the
Doctor and Rose's relationship, which I think for the most part has
been blown out of proportion.
>
> The running gag about the weakness of Jacky's knicker[1] elastic is
> fairly subtle and I can't see it as offensive. As for Jack and his
> sexual predilections, isn't that entirely in keeping with his character?
>
Oh, certainly. But I guess I'd question the purpose of having a
sexually promiscuous character in the first place. I mean, it's all
well and good to say, 'well, that's just the way his character is!,'
but of course the production team *chose* to include such a character.
Again, I'm afraid I'm making it seem like I care a lot more about this
than I do. It's a very small element of the program, and I'm quite
content to live with it. But I'd be lying if I said I *liked* it,
that's all.
And I know what knickers are, but thank you for the clarification! :D
Michelle
Frankymole
It's okay, I understand what you mean now.
As to the "What Not To Wear" Trin-E and Zuzanna, I'm still not sure whether
the BBC were right to make their single editorial-policy cut to the series
be Jack's naked bum, or not. I suppose in these days of equality we should
have got Rose's naked bottom too to compensate. I suppose the in-joke side
of it was that he was in his birthday suit and it actually was the actor's
birthday :-)
Frankymole
"John Russell" <john_e_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:43b50a1c$1...@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
From Van Statten's examination of the Doctor in "Dalek" we also know that
the Doctor has a *"binary vascular system"*, obviously the famous
"respiratory bypass system" Pertwee kept on about.
So maybe Jackie, having a big pair of lungs herself, was interested in that.
Ian Salsbury
"Martin" <martin.o_brien@[no-spam]which.net> wrote in message
news:u5btf.1530$lK2...@fe80.usenetserver.com...
It deserved something stronger. That way as few people as possible would
have to be as insanely bored by it as I was. Sitting through that snoozefest
is a couple of hours I`ll never get back.
Manky Badger
John Russell
> Well, I think it is. We're less hysterically overprotective towards
> children than I think the US now is. That isn't to say we're not
> hysterically overprotective, too, but it's just a matter of degree.
>
> I was looking at an official Icelandic website recently showing pictures
> of children playing. The children - about eight years old, wearing life
> jackets and warm clothes - were playing, chest deep, in rapids on a
> river coming off a glacier, in very turbulent water with sharp rocks.
> There were no adults nearby. It just would not be allowed in this
> country.
>
Yes, taking photo's of children has almost become a crime!
The Doctor
I would marry Triiny or Sussanah if either one or are not damaged goods.
News
The way we seem to be pushing sex education on younger and younger kids I
wouldn't be so sure
--
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News
Ian Salsbury <I...@salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> > I'm sure the original uncut THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST got an 18
> > certificate; it was the edited re-release that got the 15 certificate.
> It deserved something stronger. That way as few people as possible would
> have to be as insanely bored by it as I was. Sitting through that
> snoozefest is a couple of hours I`ll never get back.
Well, it's all a matter of opinion so I'll post mine to ballance your's.
I think it was great film and I found it profoundly moving. In the cinema
I saw it in, there was silence at the end (very unusual) and everyone
walked out very quietly, they were clearly very thoughtful.
The Doctor
News <SW_N...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>In article <43b50a1c$1...@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>,
> John Russell <john_e_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > The only thing that bothers me is the sexual innuendo in this new
>> > Doctor Who. Like when Rose informed her Mum that The Doctor has two
>> > hearts and her Mum wonders what else he might have two of.
>
>> Why should Dr Who be judged in isolation? Ambasador Malari's extra
>> "bits" where often commented on in Babylon 5, and in far more explicit
>> manner.
>
>> And anyway the "innuendo" works on two levels. To a little boy or girl
>> the joke could mean nothing more than he had an extra "willie" to "pee"
>> through, only someone who already had sexual knowledge would get the
>> adult innuendo.
>
>The way we seem to be pushing sex education on younger and younger kids I
>wouldn't be so sure
>
I hope not. It is not appropriate to that level of education.
Night Spirit
> In article <4de1953ca...@dsl.pipex.com>,
> News <SW_N...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>> In article <43b50a1c$1...@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>,
>> John Russell <john_e_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The only thing that bothers me is the sexual innuendo in this new
>>>> Doctor Who. Like when Rose informed her Mum that The Doctor has two
>>>> hearts and her Mum wonders what else he might have two of.
>>
>>> Why should Dr Who be judged in isolation? Ambasador Malari's extra
>>> "bits" where often commented on in Babylon 5, and in far more
>>> explicit manner.
>>
>>> And anyway the "innuendo" works on two levels. To a little boy or
>>> girl the joke could mean nothing more than he had an extra "willie"
>>> to "pee" through, only someone who already had sexual knowledge
>>> would get the adult innuendo.
>>
>> The way we seem to be pushing sex education on younger and younger
>> kids I wouldn't be so sure
>>
>
> I hope not. It is not appropriate to that level of education.
We've had a few systems already teach 3 graders about condoms it's very rare which is why it makes big news.
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John Russell
"News" <SW_N...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:4de1953ca...@dsl.pipex.com...
> In article <43b50a1c$1...@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>,
> John Russell <john_e_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > The only thing that bothers me is the sexual innuendo in this new
>> > Doctor Who. Like when Rose informed her Mum that The Doctor has two
>> > hearts and her Mum wonders what else he might have two of.
>
>> Why should Dr Who be judged in isolation? Ambasador Malari's extra
>> "bits" where often commented on in Babylon 5, and in far more explicit
>> manner.
>
>> And anyway the "innuendo" works on two levels. To a little boy or girl
>> the joke could mean nothing more than he had an extra "willie" to "pee"
>> through, only someone who already had sexual knowledge would get the
>> adult innuendo.
>
> The way we seem to be pushing sex education on younger and younger kids I
> wouldn't be so sure
Perhaps we should be telling children about the purpose of sex before they
learn it's fun from their peers! Sex Education should be broadened to be
Family Education, so that they learn about the responsibilities of bringing
up kids , not just what a sperm does to an egg.
Arnold Bocklin
> This is not the Doctor I grew up with. The Doctor I grew up with would win
> the day by doing something clever, finding some means to expell the Aliens
> into another dimension - or tricking the Alien leader into defeating
> himself somehow, not by kicking his ass in a sword fight.
Except that he *does* win by being clever. It's his *knowledge* that
saves the day -- his knowledge of blood control and of the culture of
the Sycorax.
Rose and Harriet have the same physical resourses as the Doctor, but
they're powerless because they lack his special knowlege.
The Doctor knows that blood control is "just a cheap bit of voodoo",
that the Sycorax will abide by "the sanctified rules of combat", and he
uses that knowledge to defeat the invasion.
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Arnold P. Bocklin