>And did Shaggy ever buy razor blades?
ARE YOU KIDDING!?!?! Shaggy INVENTEd the Seattle/Grunge scene man. ZOINKS!
How could you be so silly! :)
Dave
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You only "introduced" him.
Guilt by association, and you are the only one on hand.
I now decalre a fatwa on Mark Evanier for introducing a character who
changed Scooby Doo fro a predictable, fun cartoon show that shaped
the young minds of a generation, to a cartoon that was irritating
beyond belief. Scrappy Doo should have been scrapped from conception.
Expansion wasn't necessary. Sigh.
Anyway.
What exactly were Fred and Daphne up to every time Scooby, Shaggy and
Velma went off in another direction?
And what were Scooby snacks? From all evidence they seem to be
concentrated speed.
And did Shaggy ever buy razor blades?
And why was the first person seen in Scooby Doo aprt from the regular
cast the baddie? "If it wasn't for those pesky kids." If I was Fred,
I'd shoot everyone I saw, thus eliminating the obvious suspects.
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National Student Cartoonist of the Year 1994.
Dirtbag #1 looks like its been funded! Happy Happy Joy Joy!
Harm one hair on Daphne and you're dead.
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>Anyway.
>
>What exactly were Fred and Daphne up to every time Scooby, Shaggy and
>Velma went off in another direction?
Nothing. It's Daphne and Velma I wonder about. (See the picture that
served as a model for Velma in some back issue of Wild Cartoon Kingdom.)
>And what were Scooby snacks? From all evidence they seem to be
>concentrated speed.
Just food. It was a Pavlovian thing. You don't want to know what Scooby
went through before the kids rescued him from the Doctor Korsikov's
animal research laboratory at the University.
As to why they had the same effect on Shaggy is a different matter. Shaggy
was constantly high. (He talked to his dog after all.) Any food would have
had the same effect on him. The rest of the kids just convinced him that
there was something special to the Scooby snacks. They were really just
run of the mill dog biscuits.
>And did Shaggy ever buy razor blades?
Um, it wouldn't have been a good idea to give Shaggy anything sharp like
razor blades.
>And why was the first person seen in Scooby Doo aprt from the regular
>cast the baddie? "If it wasn't for those pesky kids." If I was Fred,
>I'd shoot everyone I saw, thus eliminating the obvious suspects.
Wasn't it "those meddling kids"? (Or the time they were in Scotland,
"those meddling lads and lassies.")
Personally, if I were Shaggy I would have shot Fred. As far as I can
tell, it was Fred's idea to constantly be driving the Mystery Machine
into ghost towns, deserted amusement parks, and fog shrouded fishing
villages. Without Fred constantly putting Shaggy and Scooby's lives in
danger, Shaggy could have been home listening to Pink Floyd on the
headphones and eating chocolate marshmallow pizzas.
So does anyone know what happened to Fred when they tossed him from
the show and did the series with just Shaggy, Daphne and Scooby? I'm
guessing a career as a male model.
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The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis. Mappings are Dobie -> Fred, Maynard G.
Krebs (as played by Bob "Gilligan" Denver) -> Shaggy, Thalia -> Daphne,
Zelda -> Thelma, Thinker statue -> Scooby :-).
"Okay folks, here's your first question...What doesRING!" "SEX!"
"Beg pardon?" "SEX! SEX is the answer! SEX!SEX!SEX!"
"No, I'm afraid that's incorrect."
"Okay, the Magna Carta, then." --Cowboy Wally's Trivia Lotto
SPOILER ALERT!! SPOILER ALERT!! SPOILER ALERT!!
I mean it! SPOILER ALERT!
OK.
A source at DC (an unnamed colorist) told me that the big bad villain at the
end of Zero Hour is Hal Jordan. Apparently, the bad guys right now (#2)
aren't really all that bad, and HJ is the big bad baddie at the end.
Now, for obvious reasons, I can't name this guy, and I can't divulge how he
knows the end, either, since if someone at DC read this, he could get in
big-time trouble.
I seriously doubt he was just trying to throw me a curveball, but it's
possible, so don't be angry if this turns out to be garbage.
Just trying to fuel some more whining about Hal Jordan,
DJ
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over the water! ---The BEST comics are still 10 cents!
I'm still getting over Diana's mother announcing that they're trying to get a
new Wonder Woman.
Also I was thinking of getting into Hawkman or Hawkworld or whatever it is.
Which series is recommended?
"Tonight we go to see the Heavy Metal Hamsters
It must feel nice to be a Heavy Metal Hamster
Nothing sets you free like our Heavy Metal Hamsters"
oh sure.... tell us not to tell anyone about this RUMOR cause it's secret
and if dc found out..... and then you post this here and tell US to be careful.
you related to that HIGH user from last year?
BWAH-HA-HA!
"Me and my droogies, Freddie, Velma, and Dim were eating Scooby Snacks
with Vellocet at the Kolovo Milk Bar..."
And of course, all those old guys dressing up as monsters are based on
Frank, the wheelchair-bound writer.
Marc
"The Mystery Machine was purring along real horrorshow..."
I think you may have missed the point of the statement. I don't think
that the "be careful" warning was to not let out the secret because it was
a secret, but more to not let it out to people who don't WANT to know it.
In other words, don't SPOIL the story for people who want to be surprised.
As for his relationship with the high brothers, I hope not. I HAVE
dealt with Dave before, and he seems pretty honest. In addition, he was a
pretty heavy poster a while ago, and he seemed pretty reliable. I guess a
lot of people feel that if you can't NAME your source, keep it to yourself.
I don't know, I can understand his reluctance. Thing that makes this
different from the HIGH fiasco is that they were a CONTINUAL source of
seemingly contrived information. I don't get upset with one post like this
every now and then. MANY posts kinda' make me suspicious if they fall in a
short amount of time. Hell, to be honest, there are times I don't even
remember if I heard something here, in a Wizard, or what? In that case, I
state this in the message, and usually ask for people to help verify the
information. This happened recently on r.a.c.misc with the Spider-Clone
scenario. As it turns out, I had read it in Wizard.
My point(I know I ramble) is that we now start jumping on everyone as
soon as the say anything, unless they can "PROVE" it. That's the shame of
situations like last summer...a few bad apples make everyone suspicious,
and hurt well-meaning posters credibility.
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Anyway, Shaggy then went off to get this thing signed by the
artist/author, who owned the only other copy. Later, the monster from
the comic appears, and grabs Shaggy's comic, saying he hates the hero of
the story. Hmm. After that, the kids see the evil comic seller sneaking
off to his car, carrying some comics. Why does he do this if he hates
them??? Later again, the monster strikes, and nicks the woman's copy.
The kids trap it by saying they've found another first edition. It turns
out to be the artist, who wanted to increase the value of his copy, which
would be the only one left. I thought that was quite a sophisticated
plot, compared to some of the normal stuff. It turned out that the
"evil" guy was really a fan, but was too embarrassed to admit it. The
moral: Comics are for grown ups!
Anyway, enough of my ramblings,
John
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SUREFIRE SIGNS THAT STAR TREK IS TAKING OVER YOUR LIFE:
17. "The Outrageous Okona" seems like a fine piece of writing and
dramatic stylistics
Let me cultural ignorance and age and say the immortal words..
"Who?"
Doug (A long time Shaggy fan)
"Hey, Scoob, no way are we going to risk our lives exploring the bedrooms
for ghosts. Let's just hide down here in this creepy old cellar"
A Clockwork Orange.
Doug
"Hey, Scooob, let's not risk our lives going upstairs to viddie ghosts
doing the old in out in out. Let's just hide from our droogies
>As you all know, THE FLINTSTONES was inspired by THE HONEYMOONERS, TOP
>CAT by SGT. BILKO and THE JETSONS by the BLONDIE TV show. SCOOBY-DOO
>started life as a variation on another TV show but, by the time it got
>on the air, the format had changed so much that the live-action source
>was not too recognizable. Anyone want to hazard a guess as to what it was?
...Well, outside of the often-rehashed tale about the show's natural reference
to the 60's "Mods vs Rockers" fad conflict, the show was based on "Dobie
Gillis", obviously.
Fred = Dobie
Daphne = That one gal with the weird name whose weird name escapes me.
Shaggy = Maynard G. Krebs
Velma = Zelda
Then again, what would you expect from a show that allowed Andy Gibb to perform
on the musical segments...
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Second star on the right, and straight on until thursday...
Well, since the original story had just the kids, I'll assume it was
based on Dobie Gillis. Fred = Dobie, Shaggy = Maynerd, Thelma = Zelda,
and Daphnie = the girl that Dobie had a thing for who's name I cant
remember.
So am I right?
Dascoser
at least it was tyg who got there first.
with that little bit of trivia out of the way, and with a scooby "creator"
on the list to boot, perhaps someone could help me with another question
that has been bothering for about a year now (school was slow):
what the heck are the full names of the gang (sd - i can actually give the
full names of the dg gang...)?
i recall that fred was called "little freddie jones" in "a pup named
scooby doo", and that shaggy had the family name "shagsworthy" from the
merlin episode, but what about the rest?
dave "if you must know, it is for a TORG game..." oakes
>By the way, does anyone know what TV show SCOOBY was originally based on?
>As you all know, THE FLINTSTONES was inspired by THE HONEYMOONERS, TOP
>CAT by SGT. BILKO and THE JETSONS by the BLONDIE TV show. SCOOBY-DOO
>started life as a variation on another TV show but, by the time it got
>on the air, the format had changed so much that the live-action source
>was not too recognizable. Anyone want to hazard a guess as to what it was?
COMBAT!
Either that, or the Huntley/Brinkley Report.
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>So does anyone know what happened to Fred when they tossed him from
>the show and did the series with just Shaggy, Daphne and Scooby? I'm
>guessing a career as a male model.
My hypothesis is that he eventually metamorphized into James Spader, but I
have no emperical proof.
"The last time somebody said, `I find I can write
much better with a word processor.', I replied,
`They used to say the same thing about drugs.'"
-- Roy Blount, Jr.
Excuses, excuses...
>So does anyone know what happened to Fred when they tossed him from
>the show and did the series with just Shaggy, Daphne and Scooby? I'm
>guessing a career as a male model.
Maybe he ran off with Josie (of "Pussycats" fame)....
Believe it or not he actually showed up again in a later episode as the bad
guy. I can't remember the exact circumstances, but I think he was desperate
for money or something.
Andrew S.
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At the moment I'm not up to venturing a guess on the precedent that gave
us SCOOBY-DOO, because I'm stunned -- stunned, I tell you! -- by the
source of inspiration for THE JETSONS that you cite. All these years I
figured it must have been based on MAKE ROOM FOR DADDY.
OK, I'll take a guess on SCOOBY-DOO now. Something with Bob Denver
wearing a goatee, perhaps? THE MANY LOVES OF DOBIE GILLIS. Or will you
send me running to a therapist by revealing the shocking truth that it was
actually patterned after THE GALE STORM SHOW? ;-)
- Dog Rat
: OK, I'll take a guess on SCOOBY-DOO now. Something with Bob Denver
: wearing a goatee, perhaps? THE MANY LOVES OF DOBIE GILLIS. Or will you
: send me running to a therapist by revealing the shocking truth that it was
: actually patterned after THE GALE STORM SHOW? ;-)
Sheesh. I shoulda looked at the other postings before sending my own --
who *didn't* figure this out?
- Dog Rat
I've had one or two six year periods like that myself.
"Nil desperandum" Kevin Meehan
Horace ke...@acy1.digex.net
Hot?
This should give new light to the songs "Another Scooby snack in
another hall" and "Don't cry for me Fred and Daphne."
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Well, Josie's appeared in the Marvel Universe as an OB/Gyn with a practice
in Leonia, NK (Vision and Scarlet Witch 12 issue series), but she also appeared
on stage in Riverdale with the Pussycats in the Archie/Punisher crossover.
Maybe she moonlights on weekends? No sign of Fred there though, but he and
Daphne did appear in a Kurt Busiek written JLA right around Crisis as
scientists.
"I am the *Tick*. Your brother has not done justice to your beauty with his
words. You are the spitting image of Thelma from Scooby Doo."
"Uh..." --Tick
tyg t...@hq.ileaf.com
>In article <31bgs8$j...@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>,
>Doug Shaw <dos...@math.lsa.umich.edu> wrote:
>>
>>In article <puwTbe8.m...@delphi.com>, Mark Evanier <markevanier@delphi
>>|> By the way, does anyone know what TV show SCOOBY was originally based on?
>>|> As you all know, THE FLINTSTONES was inspired by THE HONEYMOONERS, TOP
>>|> CAT by SGT. BILKO and THE JETSONS by the BLONDIE TV show. SCOOBY-DOO
>>|> started life as a variation on another TV show but, by the time it got
>>|> on the air, the format had changed so much that the live-action source
>>|> was not too recognizable. Anyone want to hazard a guess as to what it was
>>A Clockwork Orange.
...well, that was my -second- guess. My other guesses, however, were:
Easy Rider
Butterflies are Free
The Graduate
True Grit
The Sergeant
Lady in a Cage
Casino Royale
The Life and Times of Judge Roy Bean
Klute
Seven Days in May
>BWAH-HA-HA!
...Then again, "Alphaville" might have been closer to the mark.
>"Me and my droogies, Freddie, Velma, and Dim were eating Scooby Snacks
>with Vellocet at the Kolovo Milk Bar..."
...before or after a little of the "ultra-violence"?
"Oh there we were, my loyal friends and confidants! My droogies and I had come
across that pack of protroodniks, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kidniks, doing
the old in'n'out on some yummy little blonde debuchka in a pussycat costume..."
[cut to: scene of Mystery Machine running Archie & Old Betsy off into a ditch]
>And of course, all those old guys dressing up as monsters are based on
>Frank, the wheelchair-bound writer.
...which leaves Daphne as the redhead who's raped during the first "Home"
sequence. However, instead of dying of shame and a broken heart, she becomes
traumatized by the experience, and takes on a "do unto others before they do
unto you" attitude. Hence she joins the gang and starts solving mysteries so
she'll not be in a position like that again.
>"The Mystery Machine was purring along real horrorshow..."
...and at the end of the film, we have Shaggy in the hospital room. They're
wheeling in Barry Manilow and Debbie Boone.
"I was -cured- allright...!"
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>Mark Evanier (marke...@delphi.com) wrote:
>: Tom Galloway <t...@quip.eecs.umich.edu> writes:
>:
>: >The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis. Mappings are Dobie -> Fred, Maynard G.
>: >Krebs (as played by Bob "Gilligan" Denver) -> Shaggy, Thalia -> Daphne,
>: >Zelda -> Thelma, Thinker statue -> Scooby :-).
>:
>: We have a winner!
...I believe if you'll check transmission dates, mine was posted first.
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Wow. Fred gone bad! What a thought.
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:>Wow. Fred gone bad! What a thought.
He would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for those darned kids.
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Well, check out these headers from here at agate.berkeley.edu:
From: 1-1...@wwivgate.ksub.icus.com (Omega Man #1 @15036)
Subject: Re: Scooby Doo Question --- PLEASE HELP!
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 94 01:50:27 GMT
From: t...@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Tom Galloway)
Subject: Re: Scooby Doo Question --- PLEASE HELP!
Date: 28 Jul 1994 12:56:29 GMT
Also, your gateway seems to send stuff through only every few
days; thus, you may be posting continuously, but here at least we see
them come through in bursts. So Tom's post got here something like
three days before yours. (In fact, I saw Mark Evanier's reply that
you quoted at least a day before I saw your answer.)
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