Is Animation a genre of its own?
L & G
Serack wrote:
> Would you rather have animated movies have their own section in a video store
> or would it be better to have them interspersed respectively in the other
> genres?
> -Serack
I was pleased to see that our local blockbuster has an animation section,
distinguishing from the childrens section. And Rogers video has an anime section.
I like it that way.
Gerard
Koby The Interactive Bear
>Would you rather have animated movies have their own section in a video store
>or would it be better to have them interspersed respectively in the other
>genres?
>-Serack
Sounds good. It's hard finding non-child animation because it's spread
around. But who's gonna distinguish? Or maybe all animation in one
section and live-action children's movies in the children's section?
Tricky.
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Koby The Interactive Bear <ko...@softhome.NuclearEmergencyTeam> wrote:
> around. But who's gonna distinguish? Or maybe all animation in one
> section and live-action children's movies in the children's section?
> Tricky.
Two real-life examples:
A Blockbuster Video near my old Maryland home decided to throw the anime in
with the action, placing Fatal Fury: The Movie next to Fearless Hyena. In a
way it made sense, unless you're like me and only goes into a video store
with anime on his mind :)
And besides, if you throw Vampire Princess Miyu next Vampire Nazis Must Die!,
you're dying to dish out those Blockbuster Favorites free rental for
unsatisfaction.
Most video stores I've visited have a "Kids" section for Saturday mrning
stuff and its ilk; a "Family" section for live-action G and PG-rated flicks;
an "Animation" section for anime and Bakshi flicks. Sailor Moon may drift
between sections under such an arrangement (just ask our Resident
Neighborhood Sailor Moonie Derek Janssen how he feels about that), but for
the most part customers know what they want and where to look for it.
As for the larger issue, as libreally as the word "genre" is thrown about, I
can't think of a definition that encapsulates such a binary term such as
"animation". It is the natural "inversion" of live-action, ain't it? It's
like calling "off" a genre of the electricity set. There be only two states,
so why the assumption of a subdivison?
Terrence Briggs, acting like the theoretical computer scientist for some
reason
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Before you buy.
Hobbes gy
animation setion which will inlude anything animated that doesn;t fit the
"Family film" catigory" .. I like it this way since its easier to find
animation.
some anime features like Totoro, Kiki's Delivery Service and Little Nemo are
ussually in the family section though
Koby The Interactive Bear
>As for the larger issue, as libreally as the word "genre" is thrown about, I
>can't think of a definition that encapsulates such a binary term such as
>"animation". It is the natural "inversion" of live-action, ain't it? It's
>like calling "off" a genre of the electricity set. There be only two states,
>so why the assumption of a subdivison?
Not sure what you mean...
...but CGI certainly muddles things up
S.t.A.n.L.e.E
>
> As for the larger issue, as libreally as the word "genre" is thrown about, I
> can't think of a definition that encapsulates such a binary term such as
> "animation". It is the natural "inversion" of live-action, ain't it? It's
> like calling "off" a genre of the electricity set. There be only two states,
> so why the assumption of a subdivison?
>
I like better this perspective from Maureen Furniss:
"One way to think about animation is in relation to live-action media.
The use of inanimate objects and certain frame-by-frame filming techniques
suggest 'animation,' whereas the appearance of live objects and
continuous filming suggest 'live-action.' However, there is an immense
area in which the two tendencies overlap, especially when an individual is
writing on the subject of aesthetics. Rather than conceiving of the two
modes of production as existing in separate spheres, it is more accurate
for the analyst to think of them as being on a continuum representing all
possible image types under the broad category of 'motion picture production.'
In construction this continuum, it is probably best to use more neutral terms
than 'animation' and 'live-action' to constitue the ends of the spectrum.
Although the terms 'mimesis' and 'abstraction' are not ideal, they are
useful in suggesting opposing tendencies under which live-action and
animated imagery can be juxtaposed. The term 'mimesis' represents the
desire to reproduce natural reality (more like live-action work) while the
term 'abstraction' describes the use of pure form - a suggestion of a
concept rather than an attempt to explicate it in real life terms (more
like animation).
There is no one film that represents the ideal example of 'mimesis' or
'abstraction' - everything is relative.... Actually, placements suggested
by this description are somewhat arbitrary. There is no exact spot where
any one film should appear, and it is completely reasonable that various
people might argue for different placements than the ones described here:
position film
0 MIMESIS
5 Sleep (1963)
20 Jurassic Parck (1993)
50 The Three Caballeros (1943)
60 Snow White (1937)
75 Hen Hop (1942)
90 Circles (1933)
100 ABSTRACTION
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Kirk Wise
Like photography, painting or film. Snow White is a fairy tale (genre) told
through animation (medium). The Maltese Falcon is a mystery (genre) told
through film (medium).
kw.
Koby The Interactive Bear
>To paraphrase my old pal Brad Bird, animation is not a genre. It is a medium.
>Like photography, painting or film. Snow White is a fairy tale (genre) told
>through animation (medium). The Maltese Falcon is a mystery (genre) told
>through film (medium).
True, but the fact remains that some people like LA whilst some like
animation and since animation is hard to find in stores it would be
cool separate and easy to browse to find action or kiddie or what have
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mrm...@my-deja.com
Kirk Wise <kirk...@disney.com> wrote:
> To paraphrase my old pal Brad Bird, animation is not a genre. It is a medium.
> Like photography, painting or film. Snow White is a fairy tale (genre) told
> through animation (medium). The Maltese Falcon is a mystery (genre) told
> through film (medium).
>
Bah! THANK YOU! For all of my early-morning verbiage I couldn't get that
blasted "medium" word out! Bullseye.
Terrence Briggs
Peace to you...
> Serack wrote:
>
> > Would you rather have animated movies have their own section in a video store
> > or would it be better to have them interspersed respectively in the other
> > genres?
> > -Serack
>
>
Stephen W. Worth
is suitable for a wide variety of genres, just like film, novels
and plays.
See ya
Steve
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In article <3980EDBD...@telus.net>,
L & G <hous...@telus.net> wrote:
>
>
> Serack wrote:
>
> > Would you rather have animated movies have their own section in a
video store
> > or would it be better to have them interspersed respectively in the
other
> > genres?
> > -Serack
>
> I was pleased to see that our local blockbuster has an animation
section,
> distinguishing from the childrens section. And Rogers video has an
anime section.
> I like it that way.
>
> Gerard
>
>
Matt Martin
jeepg...@my-deja.com <jeepg...@my-deja.com> imparted the following
wisdom unto us:
> http://www.webspawner.com/users/sistertaffy/fundamentalfilms.html This
> menacing cartoon is part of a new generation of mind controlling movies
> that reels in it’s victims through the use of satanic special effects
> and sublime visuals. My final say on "Thomas and the Magic Railroad" is
> that if you love Jesus and care one iota about your loved ones, then for
> God's sake, do not allow them to suffer this film.
>
> - Brother Franklin Rochester III, Fundamentalist Film Critic
I certainly hope this is a joke (and some of the review makes it sound
like it is), but if it isn't I really feel sorry for this guy and the
people that subscribe to this stuff.
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