$2,500 to $4,500 a page?
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"Retired bookstore owner Helen Schlie can see a higher purpose in
selling her 1830 first-edition Book of Mormon one page at a time.
Schlie said she believes it will be more of a 'missionary tool' since
the framed pages - priced at $2,500 to $4,500 apiece - can be
handed down from generation to generation."
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/3321550
Please forgive me for making a little fun of the Mormons here. Heck, I
grew up around a bunch of Mormons. I even read the book, at the urging
of my friend James E., when I was a teenager. Didn't do much for me. ;)
If it will make any of you feel any better, just name a religion, any
religion, and I will make fun of it too.
But, Jeeeeeeez, the originals, the ones that were made of gold that
Joseph Smith supposedly dug up and translated, wouldn't be worth that
much a page, if you only count the value of the gold. ;)
T.
Kris Baker
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Yeah. He LOST them? The Church hasn't hired ground-scanning
radar by now to find them? But why did they buy (and hide from the
public) Mark Hofmann's forgeries if they had faith in their religion's
history....?
Capitalism is a good thing. Someone else is selling them for
1/10 of her price:he's not the only one doing that:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7343312631
It's called "faith promoting" here, with huge bookstores full of books
to guide (and plan) your life by....and some really awful fiction
for women.
Kris
Kris Baker
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4570511405
Kris
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very close to one MILLION dollars.
(I have GOT to get out there and get looking).
At $4,500 per page the book, sold by the page, is, according to the
seller mentioned in the Houston Chronicle, worth one million, six
hundred and two thousand dollars.
On average ($3,500 per page) the books 356 pages would be worth some
thing like one and one quarter million dollars. Jeepers!
Except, as Kris points out, you can get them on eBay for a song. Maybe
the market is wrong, maybe we should all be buying these things cheap
NOW.
Yeah, boy. The money we could make....
Note: way back when when I was a bartender in Santa Fe, three girls
from Moab came into the bar. They were on vacation. Durn. To this day I
have thoughts of moving to Moab. What pretty girls they were. ;)
Thanks for the info on Mark Hofmann. I'd never heard of him and his
doings.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Hofmann
Good, fun read.
T.
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left and they haven't gotten the opening bid of $9.95. Who knows?
Perhaps there will be a last minute rush and it will sell for
Ziillions!
;)
T.
Jessica V.
T. dahling you have deeply offended me. I was raised Mormon from the
age of 6 until my revolt at 14. At 19 I went back *very* briefly. I
got more how to be a decent inhabitant of the panet earth out of girl
scouts than I ever did out of church. I'm just to damned much of a
rebel to allow what someone maybe dug up out of the hills of New York
and translated to be the purpose of my life and the ruling power in my
life.
AFAIC if the golden plates aren't in the sub-sub-sub basement of the
SLC temple they don't exist. The gov't has scanned a huge amount of
the country to map what is burried in the earth, I don't buy for a
minute that no one knows where the plates are, unless of course they
never existed.
I'm half wondering how many Mormons could afford to purchase a single
framed page. I've known some that were well off but most, even the
high paid professionals, don't have much in the way of disposable
income...something to do with litters of children.
Love the idea that she's selling it page by page for a higher
purpose...yeah for the higher purpose (balance) of her bank account.
Of course she can't remember when or from whom she purchased the book,
we all forget where we buy the stuff that'll sell for mid to high five
figures. (or more in her case if the ploy works)
I've read the book too. No copy of it in my home these days...pretty
sure the last time I laid eyes on a copy was the last time I stayed in
a Marriott hotel. You'll know that Cortes received the treatment he
did in South America because they thought he was Christ returning,
right? That's what my Sunday school teachers taught anyway.
Feeling okay about having been Mormon tonight, I just got back from two
days at the casino. Thinking the only special Mormon rule I haven't
broken in the past 48-hours was the one that says no illicit drugs.
Then again I can't remember all of the rules of behavior and
comsuption.
I do have enough good vodka, rum, whiskey and wine stockpiled to last
me a year or two...the grain stores aren't looking so good though.
Maybe I should beef those up just in case I need to start brewing and
distilling. ;)
Jessica
Kris Baker
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To me, the girls in Moab look like boys (they're very sporty and
muscular....from all that red rock mountain biking).....and mostly
off-duty ski bums ;)
Where did you bartend in Fanta Se?
Kris
Kris Baker
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Read it again, carefully. It's hilarious.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4570511405
Actually, it's an old joke around here, and I searched
especially for it....and sure enough, there were several
mentions. This one's the best.
Kris
Kris Baker
"Jessica V." <jeilee...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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We should all get together and have a good drunk.
Amazingly there's plenty of money around here, and
burgeoning multi-million dollar subidivisions. Of course,
an average home here ($175,000) would cost four times
that much elsewhere, so a million-dollar home truly is
a mansion. Of course, *most* of those are in the more
liberal neighborhoods....but a few Ms sneak in (especially
in wall-to-wall M Happy Valley).
It's amazing how many people I know, turn out to be
ex-Ms.
Kris
Karen Burns
"Kris Baker" <kris....@prodigyyy.net> wrote in message
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I can't imagine why anyone wouldn't bid on that!!! (aside from the fact
that they are either way too insulted by the description, or laughing too
hard because of the description....)
LOL!
Kris Baker
"Karen Burns" <hell...@NoSpamNomindspring.com> wrote in message
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I was tempted to write the seller, and ask if it was intentional....
but then, they'd revise it and it would no longer be our
amusement.
Kris
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muscular....from all that red rock mountain biking).....and mostly
off-duty ski bums ;)
Where did you bartend in Fanta Se?"
Gosh, this was a thousand years ago.
I don't think there WERE moutain bikes back then. ;)
The first place was the most fun, The Forge at the Inn of the
Governors. We had at least one fight in there every night.
The last one was, can't remember the name, it was a big piano bar,
expensive drinks, ritzy clientele, totally boring. That's how I got
into the antiques biz. They fired me because I was rude to the son of
some Hollywood movie actor. They were right too, I was rude. He, on
the other hand, was a real asshole. ;)
So, I started driving out to the Mid-West collecting stuff from the
antiques malls and selling it to the stores downtown. I knew absolutely
nothing and learned most things the hard way. Read every book I could
get my hands on.
The advantage I had was this - Say I was reading a book about Navajo
weaving and ran into an article on wedge weaves. What the hell is a
wedge weave? Well, all I had to do was walk downtown into one of the
fancy stores and just LOOK. It took quite some time but eventually, I
could go out to the Mid-West and tell the wheat from the chaff.
God, I have been talking a lot aobut myself. Sorry. Sometimes I just
can't shut up. ;)
T
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T.
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good vodka, rum, whiskey and wine stockpiled to last me a year or two."
Darn, J, just let me grab my bong and I will be right over!
;)
T.
Kris Baker
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>I have to plead stupidity, Kris. I am just not getting the joke.
>
> T.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4570511405
The Book of Moron 1830
Kris
Kris Baker
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Why not? We're always the most interesting.
Learning is the most fun part, especially when you're in an area
with the resources.
A stodgy piano bar in Santa Fe? I hate those kinds of places.
We usually stay at the El Rey, cheap, clean, interesting, kitschy,
and empty of the pains-in-the-arses.
We're having fun right now finding Pueblo-signed pots at the
local thrift stores. 95% of what we find are tourist junk that
sold for under $25 and those go into the greenhouse to mix
in with the cactus (kitschy but fun to do in a room that's never
locked), but we've found a few treasures (including some from
the 1930s-1950s)....and all have cost less than a dollar,
well, except for two of them.
I know one thing: the antiques dealers here need to learn
like you did; they can't tell the difference between a Navajo
eye-dazzler and a red Mexican truck seat cover blanket.
Kris
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Kris "
Mercy, I AM slow witted these days.
T.
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died. ;)
T.
Kris Baker
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No, it's a trick your eyes play on you. It's the same
reason you can read the titles of all those spams with
the letters and numbers substituting for each other.
Kris
Jessica V.
afternoon tasting at the nearby Blacksmith's winery. In fact maybe I
really don't like port, because what they produce is the only port I
like.
Jessica
Bill Burns
> AFAIC if the golden plates aren't in the sub-sub-sub basement of the
> SLC temple they don't exist. The gov't has scanned a huge amount of
> the country to map what is burried in the earth, I don't buy for a
> minute that no one knows where the plates are, unless of course they
> never existed.
Didn't the Angel Moroni take the golden plates back after Joseph Smith
had read them? Maybe he'll show up as an eBay seller one of these days
. . .
--
Bill Burns, Long Island, NY, USA
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John R. Yamamoto-Wilson
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4570511405
Good point, but Helen Schlie trumps such unauthenticated material:
"The signatures of both authenticators also accompany each page"
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/23/AR2005082300072.html).
Of course, I don't know what she means by "signatures"; unless she got
them to sign hundreds of times (and, given the amount of money
involved, she may well have done), but these might be photocopies,
themselves authenticated by her. Even if not, according to that seller,
there is another way to identify a first printing (i.e., the type of
paper used). If that is indeed so (sorry, I'm too lazy to confirm it),
the signatures may not be worth the 1000% premium she seems to be
putting on them. In any case, the eBay seller offers what, prima facie,
looks like good provenance on the item; I'm inclined to accept that
it's genuine.
BTW, the seller's description shows that he/she is aware of the kinds
of prices Schlie (and perhaps others) is asking:
"YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEND THOUSANDS TO GET AN ORIGINAL 1830 PAGE FROM
THE BOOK OF MORMON"
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Hofmann
Now, that's funny! The author of the AP/Washington Post article should
be cringing for missing that.