new bike day

[neurodrum]

happy NBD to me :) just unpacked my first Rivendell, an orange Sam i
mentioned on the list a couple weeks ago.

slapped it together and took it for a ride around the block to adjust
things like seat, stem, etc.

it's a 56cm.. and i don't really have more than 1cm of standover (in
street shoes) but the cockpit is about as small as i can take (i'm
5'11 with a PBH of about 84.5 - all torso).

here are some low-rez pics i took with my iphone
http://paradigmpusher.com/Cycling/Sam_Hillborne.html

so far it feels great - lighter and much snappier than i expected,
rather similar to the XO-1 that i sold to Mitch a couple weeks ago, to
fund this, but bigger/sturdier/smoother on the 700C Schwalbes.

the only issue at the moment is the saddle just isn't quite far enough
back.. i could use another cm or two, but the Flyer Special is back as
far as it goes.. look like i'll be ordering a new seatpost shortly.
the bars are also adjusted all the way up to the max height line, but
they feel pretty good there.

thanks to Grant and Jay for all the advice on sizing, parts, etc.. my
dream bike made it into reality :)

now i just gotta get some racks and setback seatpost, i think.

cheers,
andrew

[clyde canter]

Nice!. 

This post should get you another cm of s/b.

http://www.wallbike.com/seatposts/uno374.html

Best,
Clyde

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[Beardpapa]

Well done. How are you liking the Bullmoose bars?

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[cyclotourist]

Those wood grips are beautiful.  What a great bike. 

Will you be joining us this Sunday on the SoCal ride?

http://tinyurl.com/FebRivRide

Hope so!

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David
Redlands, CA

"Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym."  ~Bill Nye, scientist guy

[amoll68]

Neat build! Looks like fun. Enjoy.

Best,
Alex Moll
Seattle, WA

[MichaelH]

After you have had a chance to us them some more, I would be
interested in hearing how you like the brakes. They look like a good
design, but the price looks to good to be true.

Michael

On Feb 15, 3:46 pm, neurodrum <neurod...@gmail.com> wrote:
> happy NBD to me :)  just unpacked my first Rivendell, an orange Sam i
> mentioned on the list a couple weeks ago.
>
> slapped it together and took it for a ride around the block to adjust
> things like seat, stem, etc.
>
> it's a 56cm.. and i don't really have more than 1cm of standover (in
> street shoes) but the cockpit is about as small as i can take (i'm
> 5'11 with a PBH of about 84.5 - all torso).
>

> here are some low-rez pics i took with my iphonehttp://paradigmpusher.com/Cycling/Sam_Hillborne.html

[andrew hill]

thanks guys, i'm really enjoying it so far :)

i love the bullmoosies, though they aren't nearly as wide as i expected from the description/pics on the Riv website, but they feel great - especially with the woodies. tons of "leverage" - and extremely comfy setup.

unfortunately i won't be able to join y'all for the SoCal ride this weekend - moving to a new apartment that day - but i'll do my best to make the next one. got one scheduled for March yet? :)

a new seatpost is definitely in my future.. i'm a little surprised that Rivendell doesn't stock/recommend an affordable one with more setback, since they are fans of Brooks saddles and this seems to be a common issue with Brooks. of course, not everyone is mostly torso, like me. i don't think i can afford the $200 Nitto one, but the one Clyde suggests looks pretty good, and i may have a line on another Nitto for much cheaper.

i'm not sure how i feel about the Tectro calipers yet - at first impression they don't have nearly the stopping power i expected (compared to the sidepulls on my late XO-1 or discs on my Gary Fisher) but it's mostly the rear brake that seems rather anemic, so it may just need some breaking in, so to speak. i think it's adjusted fine, but i'll tinker with it some if it doesn't improve in the first 10 miles or so.

btw.. how long does it take to get un-moderated here? i've been posting for a few weeks, and haven't tried to send one spam ;)

best,
andrew

[cyclotourist]

March is still in the works, but April is shaping up for the 3rd/4th in Ventura... :-)

andrew

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[Mitch Browne]

Andrew,

This VO seatpost is in the mail to me and should be here in a couple
of days. The set back issue is a common one and I'm dealing with it on
my Casseroll right now.

If I like it I'll order another one for the XO-1 and Atlantis.

http://www.velo-orange.com/vogrcrusepol.html

They also have a Nitto Crystal Fellow for a little more that looks
similar in set back.

Nice bike. Mitch

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[Michael_S]

I am using the Velo Orange seatpost on my Sam H. I have a similar long
torso build but with longish femurs so I like to get as far back as
possible. I have my Champion Special almost all the way back and it
fits perfect!!

here is a photo of my setup

http://tinyurl.com/yjdxlrk

Mike

SoCal

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[Earl Grey]

Re. Tektro 720s: I have them on my Sam, and I think they are great.
Easy to set up, good modulation, good stopping power; they are awesome
at the price. If all you did was technical singletrack downhill, you
might want something with more mechanical advantage for less hand
strain after hours of braking, but for an all-rounder, they are
perfect. Functionally as good as my Campy high profiles, easier to set
up, but not as jewel-like, though perfectly fine looking, except for
the prominent and ugly-ish Tektro logo. :)

I have the VO seatpost on my 20 year old beater that needed more
setback with a Brooks, and it's a beautiful post that works great.
Would like to get a Nitto at some point, but I think this one has more
setback than any of the Nittos except the lugged "Wayback".

Gernot

[andrew hill]

thanks Mitch,

they are actually out of stock right now - i tried to buy one yesterday and discovered that.. someone on the list has one for sale, but i've got a couple of other options i'm considering..

a VO might end up on a stripped down build if i can find a used 58cm Quickbeam or Atlantis frame, though ;)

-a

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[William]

Velo Orange has a nice $48 seatpost that they specifically made for
Brooks setback.

I agree with your assessment of the Tektro's being kinda wimpy, esp in
the rear. I was going to experiment with a different pad on my orange
56cm Sam. Otherwise, I have a set of Paul's I might put on it
instead.

[EricP]

A cheaper seatpost with decent setback is the Kalloy Uno SP-267. Am
using one on my non-Riv touring bike. Tougher to find in silver, but
Universal has them in stock. (Probably an LBS could order it too.)
http://tinyurl.com/ycf3u44

Have also been using the Tektro 720's on my Hillborne since the first
build. Have had no problems with stopping issues. Besides pad
changing, might want to experiment with the height of the straddle
cable.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

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[andrew hill]

thanks to everyone for their advice - many folks suggested the VO seatpost, though VO is actually out of them (and it seems they sell for more than retail on ebay right now)... i'm sure i'll find soemthing...

re the Tectros.. i figured out that the cable housing wasn't seated properly where it went into the grip housing, and fixing that has given me a bit more rear braking power.. they do stop fine; what i'm finding is that canitlever breaking seems to be more directly related to transfer of hand power than other brakes i've had.. e.g. if i squeeze harder i stop faster (true with all, but seems to be moreso with this setup).

so ya.. i'm happy with the Tectros functionally.. and i think they look pretty damn cool too :)

cheers,
andrew