Latest $1,000 Wiki for Perl 6 proposal/offer.
Conrad Schneiker
this.
(Other comments and suggestions are certainly welcome, however.)
Could I just pay someone at TPF $1,000 to set up a wiki *for* Perl 6 on
perl.org?
Whatever wiki TPF chooses is fine with me.
I would also like this wiki to serve the interests of Perl 5.8/5.9/5.10,
Parrot-related projects, and so on. These things should all help Perl 6 in
the long run.
If you want more $ for overhead costs, I'd be happy to do some evangelical
fundraising.
Best regards,
Conrad Schneiker
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Andy Lester
On Aug 23, 2006, at 12:21 AM, Conrad Schneiker wrote:
> Could I just pay someone at TPF $1,000 to set up a wiki *for* Perl
> 6 on
> perl.org?
>
>
>
> Whatever wiki TPF chooses is fine with me.
I'm working on a wiki right now. I work for Socialtext, an
enterprise wiki company, and I'm working on getting a wiki up for
Perl docs.
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Conrad Schneiker
> On Aug 23, 2006, at 12:21 AM, Conrad Schneiker wrote:
>
> > Could I just pay someone at TPF $1,000 to set up a wiki *for* Perl
> > 6 on
> > perl.org?
> >
[...]
> >
> > Whatever wiki TPF chooses is fine with me.
>
> I'm working on a wiki right now. I work for Socialtext, an
> enterprise wiki company, and I'm working on getting a wiki up for
> Perl docs.
That certainly seems like intriguing news....
Will there be a reasonably prominent link to your wiki from the perl.org
home page?
Will your wiki somehow be sufficiently {affiliated with, endorsed by, or
featured by} perl.org such that {Perl 6, Parrot, and Perl 5.10} developers
and users will (most likely) generally regard it as the new {primary,
central} Perl 6 related wiki for the foreseeable medium-term future?
Perhaps the best {fast, heuristic} way to address the above sorts of
concerns is this: if the general @Larry consensus is that the $1k check
should go to you, that's sufficient for me. Does that seem reasonable? (3rd
party feedback from other readers is also welcome.)
PS: Could your wiki provide some mechanism so that users with #perl6 commit
bits could use your wiki as the means to update pugs docs and Perl 6
Cookbook code in the svn tree? If so, how much $ would someone have to raise
to make that happen?
Best regards,
Conrad Schneiker
http://perl.net.au/wiki/Perl_6_Users_FAQ (Moved from AthenaLab to Perl 6
Wiki.)
www.AthenaLab.com (Nano-electron-beam and micro-neutron-beam technology.)
Paul Fenwick
Conrad Schneiker wrote:
> Hopefully someone at The Perl Foundation (perl.org) will read and respond to
> this.
>
> (Other comments and suggestions are certainly welcome, however.)
[snip]
I'm not suggesting that PerlNet ( http://perl.net.au/ ) become the One
True P6 Wiki, although I'd be delighted if it did. However I am eager
for PerlNet to improve as much as possible.
What I am curious to know is how could PerlNet better meet your needs,
and the needs of the Perl community. I'm gathering that two things high
on the list are:
* Official endorsement of The Perl Foundation (including
linkage from perl.org)
* Synchronisation between the wiki and svn.
Is there anything else?
I'm certainly NOT after any money here. I'm after ways to make PerlNet
more valuable to the community.
Many thanks, and all the very best,
Paul
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Conrad Schneiker
> Conrad Schneiker wrote:
> > Hopefully someone at The Perl Foundation (perl.org) will read and
> respond to
> > this.
> >
> > (Other comments and suggestions are certainly welcome, however.)
>
> [snip]
>
> I'm not suggesting that PerlNet ( http://perl.net.au/ ) become the One
> True P6 Wiki, although I'd be delighted if it did. However I am eager
> for PerlNet to improve as much as possible.
>
> What I am curious to know is how could PerlNet better meet your needs,
> and the needs of the Perl community. I'm gathering that two things high
> on the list are:
>
> * Official endorsement of The Perl Foundation (including
> linkage from perl.org)
Yes. (Or endorsement by @Larry.) My guess is that something like this is
necessary to overcome the past reluctance of others to use *any* of the
previously suggested, currently existing wikis.
> * Synchronisation between the wiki and svn.
That's not a critical requirement for me (because I don't know how
{feasible, reliable, manageable} it would be at present), but I certainly
think that would be an awesomely cool and extremely useful feature to have.
> Is there anything else?
I think that does it.
> I'm certainly NOT after any money here. I'm after ways to make PerlNet
> more valuable to the community.
>
> Many thanks, and all the very best,
Likewise.
Amir E. Aharoni
> necessary to overcome the past reluctance of others to use *any* of the
> previously suggested, currently existing wikis.
Right on.
Currently the Parrot PDD's say that the docs that must be written in
POD, even though XML (or HTML for that matter) has its advantages (see
parrot/trunk/docs/pdds/pdd00_pdd.pod ). It also welcomes contributions
and even says "Think of them as Wiki pages, but without the HTML" (see
parrot/trunk/docs/pdds/README ; it was written in 2001). I already
started submitting patches to it, which is indeed almost-wiki, but
well-done deployment in a nicely-designed wiki site with Web2.0-style
eye-candy, can do a lot of good publicity and make the synopses
develop faster - instead of making people go through the hoops of
installing SVN, submitting patches through RT etc.
Of course some people can say that those hoops are a good anti-vandal
measure ...
And by the way - *maybe i am missing something*, but is there a plan
for the final outline of Perl 6 documentation which will (?) come with
the default installation? The current Perl 6 "Synopsis \d{1,2}" name
format carries no information about the contents. I like the Perl 5
style - perlperl, perlrun, perlfaq\d, perlfunc etc. It may seem a
little weird to beginners, but is easy once they get used to it; plus
it's a good tradition.