My1OS sapu duit gomen

[red1]

I just got this sms from a friend who knows nothing about IT,
"Apa tu MY1OS?.. Budak2 sapu dana kerajaan saja".

This is not my opinion. I got the sms to prove for such an opinion from
a member of the public. I hate to be in controversy but what to do. We
are surrounded by it.

I replied to him this,
"Gomen malas berfikir. Inovasi kene fikir dalam2. Kene cari inovator yg
cerdik, payah. Asyik yg kaki hentam belaka, kononnya terlalu high std.
Maka sapu jela lagi senang. Lagipun, cepat dapat, cepat makan
bersama-sama. :)"

[saifuladli ismail]

I like your reply, ikhlas....

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On 02/25/2011 10:05 AM, saifuladli ismail wrote:

"Gomen malas berfikir. Inovasi kene fikir dalam2. Kene cari inovator yg cerdik, payah.

bukan gomen kita ada pakar perunding  yang terdiri dari doktor-doktor PhD (bukan PHP) ?

if they put SPM "grad" like me in that group, that would be something else la...

[CL Chow]

I know a lot of PhDs who are dumber than me,

Yes, I am dumb.

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[saifuladli ismail]

compared subject dlm SPM dgn Phd jauh bezanya tu. Phd satu bidang jer tapi SPM banyak subject ada 9 ada yang sampai 21 subject. so compared SPM dgn PHd susah SPM lagi dari buat Phd ....kah..kah..kah

[Soire Meira]

Stuju
+100

p/s: sy pun SPM je.. tu pun skdar dpt sijil.. cayalh ada jgk SPM.. klu x.. blh ngaku PMR je la.. hu3 lg la..

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On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 8:05 AM, red1 <re...@red1.org> wrote:

[riZer Enterprise]

geng putera

2011/2/27 Haris bin Ali <ha...@qedx.com>:

[simpleLinux]

Bak kata SM Salim " Apa Nak Jadi, Apa dah Jadi" hahahahaha..

Pandangan saya: Diorang ni guna kerajaan untuk mempromosikan produk mereka dan berbangga dengan nya. Depa kutuk saya kata "Sekurang2 nya kami adalah sistem operasi "PERTAMA" yang mendapat pengiktirafan kerajaan" melalui replay di fb. dan mereka juga dapat mengaut keuntungan dengan alasan "sistem operasi ni takde virus la bro...".. masih menggunakan repo drpd Ubuntu ;p.. nak guna model perniagaan Red Hat.. 

mungkin boleh la diorang hire developer bijak (bijak?) diseluruh negara untuk membantu diorang sikit2 melumpuhkan nama Ubuntu drpd distribusi tu untuk menggantikannya dengan my1os utk mengaburi mata orang hahahaha.. senangnya nak mengaut keuntungan drpd open source, dah nama "SUMBER TERBUKA" rembat je, modify sikit2 tambah compiz fusion utk menarik minat orang lain, tambah key cain 30 sen dengan support 50 sen dan charge RM 100... hihihihi xD jangan marah dengan kata2 pedas ini.. (kalau nasib baik tak kena quote) 

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2011/2/27 simpleLinux <2fz...@gmail.com>

[Din Mujahideen]

Aku baru nak jadikan pandangan ko ni sebagai meme. :P

[Dev]

Assalamualaikum dan salam sejahtera pada semua.

I'm thrill to this thread and issues address by my honorable members.
Thank you for bringing this up to us. We do appreciate all views and
criticism positively.But i can't hesitate to ask, do you guys have
evidence support such accusation saying that we're "sapu duit gomen" .
If so, would kindly please present (in flesh and blood) your
accusations regarding this issue. I'd love to see it.

@simpleLinux
I appreciate your views on our products, if you want to purchase from
us, do send me an email with your contact details and payment so that
i can personally send it to your doorstep. Holding grudge againts us
doesn't make any of the situation good. We are in the opensource
world, i'm asking you as a sign of good faith or brother-in-arms, to
let it go and let the majority user who uses my1os judge us.

Alas i may recall, maybe this is one of the reason as to why
opensource in Malaysia doesn't well grown to maturity, as the factor
of "holding grudge" againts and condemning each other comes into play.
For goodness sake, we are one of you and you are one of us. We, the
developer doesn't condemn each other, or do we? Or backstabbing
someone and be hypocrite about it, do we? Just to clear this up, who
is our real enemy? The real enemy is ourselves. Other than that, i
rest my case.

Above all, i would humbly ask for apology if there's any words coming
from my keyboard and my mind that doesn't suit well to the majority of
this mailing list as i would humbly remind myself that,

"Think before you open your mouth"

all the time.



Have a nice weekend guys,

Assalamualaikum, salam sejahtera pada semua.

On Feb 27, 2:22 pm, simpleLinux <2fz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Bak kata SM Salim " Apa Nak Jadi, Apa dah Jadi" hahahahaha..
>
> Pandangan saya: Diorang ni guna kerajaan untuk mempromosikan produk mereka
> dan berbangga dengan nya. Depa kutuk saya kata "Sekurang2 nya kami adalah
> sistem operasi "PERTAMA" yang mendapat pengiktirafan kerajaan" melalui
> replay di fb. dan mereka juga dapat mengaut keuntungan dengan alasan "sistem
> operasi ni takde virus la bro...".. masih menggunakan repo drpd Ubuntu ;p..
> nak guna model perniagaan Red Hat..
>
> mungkin boleh la diorang hire developer bijak (bijak?) diseluruh negara
> untuk membantu diorang sikit2 melumpuhkan nama Ubuntu drpd distribusi tu
> untuk menggantikannya dengan my1os utk mengaburi mata orang hahahaha..
> senangnya nak mengaut keuntungan drpd open source, dah nama "SUMBER TERBUKA"
> rembat je, modify sikit2 tambah compiz fusion utk menarik minat orang lain,
> tambah key cain 30 sen dengan support 50 sen dan charge RM 100... hihihihi
> xD jangan marah dengan kata2 pedas ini.. (kalau nasib baik tak kena quote)
>

> On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 3:09 AM, riZer Enterprise <rizerenterpr...@gmail.com

>
>
>
> > wrote:
> > geng putera
>
> > 2011/2/27 Haris bin Ali <ha...@qedx.com>:
> > > Tradisi bisnes bumiputra Malaya?
>
> > > //ha...@qedx.com
>

> > > On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 8:05 AM, red1 <r...@red1.org> wrote:
> > >> I just got this sms from a friend who knows nothing about IT,
> > >> "Apa tu MY1OS?.. Budak2 sapu dana kerajaan saja".
>
> > >> This is not my opinion. I got the sms to prove for such an opinion from
> > a
> > >> member of the public. I hate to be in controversy but what to do. We are
> > >> surrounded by it.
>
> > >> I replied to him this,
> > >> "Gomen malas berfikir. Inovasi kene fikir dalam2. Kene cari inovator yg
> > >> cerdik, payah. Asyik yg kaki hentam belaka, kononnya terlalu high std.
> > Maka
> > >> sapu jela lagi senang. Lagipun, cepat dapat, cepat makan bersama-sama.
> > :)"
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[sweemeng ng]

Actually don't worry about them too much, some members foss community may seems very opinionated. They usually harmless. We are from many layers of life, thus all will have a different opinion of stuff. 

The sapu duit argument is always been in Malaysian mouth. Every time govt use money, for positive or negative, they will just say it is wasting money. Everybody seems to want the money for subsidy only, hmmm. Of course there is this administration track record, though that would be another debate altogether 

p.s I hope that that just because some of us here, you loses hope to the local community

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Dev,
Since i started this thread and now i know that the accusation is
baseless, i withdraw this accusation with sincere apology. Hope to meet
up with your team to figure out 'perjuangan yang lebih besarrrrr' :)

[simpleLinux]

nope, who said I have not yet tested the my1os? 

sorry, it's just my opinion.. as said by sweemeng ng, we are harmless.. ;p don't worry

(p/s do not be TOO PROUD it will make you a failure)

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erk.. apa kes ni? ada my1OS.. hu3 nk satu CD.. nk try la.. xkn xblh kot.. xpun bg je link blh sy download..

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Pay RM 100 and then someone will be at your house... xD (kidding) 

download links is not available tho.. hmm.. buying it is a mandatory la Cik Mawi

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I don't want the CD, but I just want the repo..based Ubuntu kan? buat macam sabily boleh? (lalala~) :p

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@simplelinux

says whatever you want... people like you are not worth talking to.. its look like you hold a grudge against us and we don't even care. why? because ur minded are so "simple" and of course.. harmless..

p/s - Yes we are PROUD ... so what~!!???

[Khalid Mohd]

Assalammualaikum

wow ... tajam sungguh kata-kata sahabat ni ... Terima kasih la sebab bagi komen yang tak membangun. ni la salah satu punca oss kat malaysia tak boleh nak naik .. baru nak naik, cakap macam2 ...bila related dengan kerajaan je, terus kata sapu duit govt. ade bukti ke bang? untuk makluman semua, kami tidak menerima walau satu sen pun duit dari kerajaan. apa yang ada sekarang ini, kami jalan atas KOS SENDIRI. maaflah, bukan saya emosional, tapi bila ada tuduhan tak berasas dari bangsa sendiri ni yang sensitif. Kami telah pun membuat satu pertemuan dengan team OSDC. tanya diorang la kalau kami ni jenis nk sapu duit orang. nak burn DVD, buat packaging, promotion tu semua kene guna duit bang oi, bukan bayar pakai bulu ketiak. Kami panjat ke atas dengan mengunakan penat lelah kami. kami cari cara lain untuk bawak OSS ke govt. Bunuh Ubuntu??? saudara, ubuntu tu derivative debian, linux mint dari ubuntu, maknanya kalau ikut cakap saudara ni, ubuntu bunuh debian, linux mint bunuh ubuntu la ... mcm tu? ape la... saudara, kami jalan atas kapasiti sendiri la, kalau taknak support, takpe la, tapi jangan la tuduh melulu. sekian, terima kasih.

2011/2/27 simpleLinux <2fz...@gmail.com>

[Hasanuddin Abu Bakar]

Aku pelik kenapa ramai yg bertelingkah pasal hal mcm ni. Yang penting fahami lesen dan jgn mencuri, idea dan resources. Rezeki melimpah ruah dengan foss.jgn sempitkan fikiran.aku dah berjaya JIMATKAN wang kerajaan dekat SEJUTA ringgit dengan solution foss.tak logik kalau ada mana2 kompeni foss yg bazirkan duit kerajaan.kalau nak habiskan duit kerajaan,cuba jd distributor microsoft jual exchange atau office je.

sekarang aku tgh tunggu syazwan lapor diri kat openkod sdn bhd,kompeni baru aku yg dicipta khas untuk bisnes foss.Cepat bro projek manyak mau masuk..aku tak menang tangan dah ni..hahhahhah

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[Garfield WTF]

Oi! WTF is wrong with you guys!?
People from distros which uses dpkg fighting each other!?
WTF!?

@simpleLinux
I do somehow agree with your points too, but the way you express it, a little bit too harsh.
You are consider as an old timers in the OSS community too, so you should know that sometimes when we talked to harsh, might spark a distro war. Especially when you are representing a distro project.
So I think it is best we try our best to educate the newcomers and guide them for the benefit of the OSS community. We don't want those M$ fanboys to looks down at us for fighting each others, don't we? :)
But anyway, the points you have voices, I do agree with them. :)


@Dev
No offense, but they way you walk into this discussion is a little bit rude.
What I mean is, you should have talk in a proper way instead for straight shooting to simpleLinux and also the rest of the people in this thread who are asking question instead of giving opinion.
Not everyone is shooting at My1OS in this thread at the moment.

By the way, since My1OS is still fully dependent on Ubuntu's repo, I think you guys should make it available for the public to download the ISO, and sell the support service separately.
I believe that My1OS is not suitable to use the RedHat way to make it commercial for the moment.
Here is the reasons:

1. Huge parts of RHEL are done by RedHat themself, of course, they were build based on OpenSource components. While My1OS, it is built based on Ubuntu, which its entire structure remain the same as Ubuntu.
2. RedHat is charging for the subscription to their own repo, which is done by them self, and hosted by them self. My1OS is still solely dependent on the Ubuntu repo, and as we all know, the Ubuntu repo is free for public.
3. RHEL's source code are available for the public for free. Thus, CentOS exist, where it is entirely the same as RHEL, and this is how RedHat let the public use RHEL for free and settle themself without providing official support from RedHat. So, if My1OS is an OpenSource project, then the codes that is added to the original Ubuntu shall be release to the public as well. At least, it shall be available for the public to download and use without giving them official support. But so far, I can't seems to find any download links at the My1OS website.
   
4. To make My1OS able to be commercial, I believe just adding something on the original Ubuntu is not enough. It should have something more. Example, My1OS shall prepare own repo for as an additional repo inside the My1OS for regular updates on the components which has been added onto the modded Ubuntu of yours. Or else, it doesn't really make sense for people to pay for the distro copy if they are just able to have access to the Ubuntu repo which it is free for the public to access.

You may feel that I am trying to attack you. But I would like to make it clear, I am not shooting at your project, I am just voicing out my own opinion from what I see so far.
By the way, please do not tell me to buy the distro, as I do not intend to purchase anything at the moment. But I do hope to see a demo from you and your fellow developers during some OSS events. Also I hope that you can made it on the next inter-distro meetup and introduce your My1OS project to the community if you wish to convince the public that your distro are worth to be a commercial distro. Via these type of meetups or events, it is the best way to stay those to the OSS community and eliminate any misunderstanding among supporters of each distro.


@Khalid Mohd
I think it is best to be polite rather than just come in here and straight make enemy with everyone.
It is ok to defend on the project that ourself working on. But still, since it is an OpenSource project, you should be good with the rest of the people in the OSS community. An OSS project will only be successful with the support of the community, be it your own project's community, or the whole OSS community in whole.
By the way, as you said, the DVD burning and packaging of the cover do need cost. So wouldn't it be great to make it available for the public to download the ISO and burn the ISO them self?
Anyway, I am not trying to be offensive to you, but I do hope that you can be more polite. Most of the time, people judge hows a group by how a member for that group behave. So I believe you wouldn't want people to think more negative about your group now, right?


Finally, I hope everyone to stop engaging in distro wars. Its year 2011 now, distro wars shouldn't be still continue until now.
In fact, all people from dpkg based distro should stop fighting! Have you every see CentOS guys bashing Fedora? I hardly see such case happen. This is how RPM based distros are well respected.
Plus, nowadays each distros from each Linux family are working close to bring Linux to another level, to compete with the common opponent, M$ Windows. So we all, supporters from each different distros should stop fighting for the benefit of all of us.

Anyway, after writing so many things already, to be honest, I also dunno what I am talking about now.
Feel free to ignore what I have written.
:)

[Umarzuki Bin Mochlis Moktar]

didn't know slax/slackware use dpkg tho...lol

[Khalid Mohd]

Assalammualaikum

@Garfield WTF

I'm not shooting everyone in this thread. my post are only for simplelinux. the way he make accusation are baseless. he didn't know us or meet us, so why he just come here and bashing us? is it he feel threaten? there's a lot of untrue story wondering around the net about my1os. so please, there's so little info about my1os that you know, don't judge us by only reading other people post. simplelinux just testing our beta version ( he did not mention it... right? ), we know GPL, we know about open source law.. and we DID NOT use ubuntu repo ~!!. since this is my last post, i just wanna say, "simplelinux or anyone who did not like my1os, go on with your hatred, we dont care because we will move on to the next level, and you can stay behind ... with your hatred, accusation and your "Fitnah".

This is my last post. so sad when people choose to believe what they read and believe baseless accusation.

Regards.

[darXness darXness]

> I'm not shooting everyone in this thread. my post are only for simplelinux.
> the way he make accusation are baseless. he didn't know us or meet us, so
> why he just come here and bashing us? is it he feel threaten? there's a lot
> of untrue story wondering around the net about my1os. so please, there's so
> little info about my1os that you know, don't judge us by only reading other

You know there's so little info about my1OS,so why not u promote n
tell us all the information.tell us sumthing that we didnt know.n
lastly,IMPRESS us

> people post. simplelinux just testing our beta version ( he did not mention
> it... right? ), we know GPL, we know about open source law.. and we DID NOT
> use ubuntu repo ~!!. since this is my last post, i just wanna say,

1st,simpleLinux already told us he tested beta version.:)
DID NOT use ubuntu repo?prove it please.

> "simplelinux or anyone who did not like my1os, go on with your hatred, we
> dont care because we will move on to the next level, and you can stay behind
> ... with your hatred, accusation and your "Fitnah".
>
> This is my last post. so sad when people choose to believe what they read
> and believe baseless accusation.
>
> Regards.

so this is how you treat us?your previous post said we are part of u,n
u are part of us.but is it how you treat us and asnwer all that
question just like that,n if u cant answer,u just walk away?what a
manner....

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1- both of your distro is new, prove to us that it's valueable and usable + user-friendly, not just on desktop use or whatever, but on your aspect of "manners"

 

2- Most of us here is seasoned users (more than 10 years ), some of them developers too.. please do respect with them with your words.. please.. don't behave like others is small kid who just know opensource yesterday!!!

 

3- Please participate in some meetups/events, bring your own distro, demo it, prove it, show it, give a kick on haters ass!! if u do so people knowing u and respecting u rather than keep on BARKING and SHOUTING when people bashing on your product.

 

Please don't think OSS lovers and supporters like.. ( u put a suitable words for it ).. anything u throw at them and claimed it, they will rush and pick it up and SIMPLY TRUST it..

 

we're supportive, but those words make me feel sick.. sorry dude.. I'm nobody, but my BSD team (for example), Kris Moore the PCBSD founder, Josh, Matt Olander the iXSystem CTO itself i never seen them say such words in our mailing list or even during our conversation..

 

That really make them respected!! Try to look at yourself and compare.. behave like them ( as an example ) then people will respect your product too..

 

last but not least..

 

dont put a words "bangsa" issue here la.. if not u better be a politician!!! ahahaa