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asdf

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Dec 16, 2006, 7:42:26 PM12/16/06
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1. How do i create an equivalent of personal toolbar in IE.
So that bookmarks in my links folder are displayed.
2. On my My Yahoo page when i click on the link a new tab opens
up in the foreground. I only want new tabs to open up when i wheel click
on the links. Any way of configuring this?
3 Any way of configuring for progress bar to show up inside of the tab
Basically what i want is a little line showing progress by moving from
left to right.
4. Any way of creating an undo button. So that if i accidentally
close the tab i can reopen it.

thanks


John H Meyers

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Dec 16, 2006, 8:23:56 PM12/16/06
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On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 18:42:26 -0600, asdf wrote:

> Any way of configuring for progress bar to show up inside of the tab

Tools > Appearance > Toolbars > Progress bar

> Any way of creating an undo button.
> So that if i accidentally close the tab i can reopen it.

Control+Z

See also:

Tools > Preferences > Advanced > Browsing > Show Window menu
[then Window > Closed...]

-[ ]-

John H Meyers

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Dec 16, 2006, 8:29:33 PM12/16/06
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More on:

> Any way of creating an undo button.
> So that if i accidentally close the tab i can reopen it.

There's also a "Closed [V]" button for customizing toolbars,
in Tools > Appearance > Buttons > Browser
(doesn't this appear somewhere by default upon initial installation?)

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Rick Onanian

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Dec 16, 2006, 8:34:37 PM12/16/06
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asdf wrote:
> 1. How do i create an equivalent of personal toolbar in IE.
> So that bookmarks in my links folder are displayed.

View -> Toolbars -> Personal bar.

Then, drag links or bookmarks onto it, or right-click on a bookmark and
check "show on personal bar". Bookmark folders can be put on the
personal bar too.

Neat trick: I've got a folder called "daily" with all the pages I check
every morning; I click on it and choose "open all" and they all open in
tabs.

> 2. On my My Yahoo page when i click on the link a new tab opens
> up in the foreground. I only want new tabs to open up when i wheel click
> on the links. Any way of configuring this?

There is a way to do this, although I don't remember how. I prefer to
browse by opening approximately a thousand tabs for every two words I
want to read... <G>

> 4. Any way of creating an undo button. So that if i accidentally
> close the tab i can reopen it.

As the other reply says, Ctrl-Z. Also, if it's not showing on a toolbar
already, you can right click a toolbar and click "customize" and add the
trash bin to the toolbar. Click on the trash bin to see all the tabs
you've closed.

Be careful if you have multiple Opera windows open, each with multiple
tabs. You accidentally click the wrong X and lose a window full of tabs,
and there's no Ctrl-Z for that. If you're quick, you can find
autosave.win.bak in your Opera profile sessions directory and copy it
before it gets overwritten.

Eddie

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Dec 16, 2006, 8:40:32 PM12/16/06
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Quoting asdf <as...@asdf.com> in <news:_n0hh.434$v37...@newsfe10.lga>:

> 1. How do i create an equivalent of personal toolbar in IE.
> So that bookmarks in my links folder are displayed.

View -> Toolbars -> Personal bar

Now, you can right click on a bookmark and select "Show on personal bar"
option.

> 2. On my My Yahoo page when i click on the link a new tab opens
> up in the foreground. I only want new tabs to open up when i wheel click
> on the links. Any way of configuring this?

I have no idea.

> 3 Any way of configuring for progress bar to show up inside of the tab
> Basically what i want is a little line showing progress by moving from
> left to right.

opera:config#UserPrefs|ShowProgressAsPopup

Put this in address bar, change the value to 0 and save.

> 4. Any way of creating an undo button. So that if i accidentally
> close the tab i can reopen it.

Use the trash can (in upper right corner if you haven't changed the default
layout) or just press Ctrl+Z.

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Dec 17, 2006, 5:30:03 AM12/17/06
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asdf <as...@asdf.com> schreef op Sun, 17 Dec 2006 01:42:26 +0100:

> 4. Any way of creating an undo button. So that if i accidentally
> close the tab i can reopen it.

On this page <http://operawiki.info/CustomButtons> there are many custom
buttons which you can drag onto any toolbar (start dragging up or downward
not horizontally as that'll just select the text). There are three
'reopen' buttons, just choose the one with the icon you like.

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Rijk van Geijtenbeek

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Dec 17, 2006, 5:29:58 PM12/17/06
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Op Sun, 17 Dec 2006 02:34:37 +0100 schreef Rick Onanian
<groups.t...@xoxy.net>:

> asdf wrote:
>> 2. On my My Yahoo page when i click on the link a new tab opens
>> up in the foreground. I only want new tabs to open up when i wheel click
>> on the links. Any way of configuring this?
>
> There is a way to do this, although I don't remember how. I prefer to
> browse by opening approximately a thousand tabs for every two words I
> want to read... <G>

Right-click the link, select 'Open'. This will never open a new tab.

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Jonathan A.

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Dec 18, 2006, 12:14:28 AM12/18/06
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On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 23:29:58 +0100, Rijk van Geijtenbeek
<ri...@opera.removethiz.com> appears to have said:

>> asdf wrote:
>>> 2. On my My Yahoo page when i click on the link a new tab opens
>>> up in the foreground. I only want new tabs to open up when i wheel click
>>> on the links. Any way of configuring this?
>

> Right-click the link, select 'Open'. This will never open a new tab.
>

I've found it much more convenient to set enable drag to "255"

<opera:config#UserPrefs|EnableDrag>

Then you can dop a link onto the current page, which forces the link
to open in the current "tab." No right click, and click on menu, just
a quick flick of the wrist gets the job done. This does not work on
javascript links, however. :(

There's also a user script that clobbers "target=_blank" type links:

<http://userjs.org/scripts/general/enhancements/remove-blank>

The declared target on my.yahoo.com pages seems to be "_content", so
you'd have to modify that script a bit to use it there. Should be
self explanatory once you see the script but, feel free to ask if
you have trouble getting it working.

HTH,
Jonathan

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Milhouse Van Houten

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Dec 19, 2006, 2:47:54 PM12/19/06
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This is an Opera browser emulation problem, nothing to do with the site:
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=155359

Change the emulation (in site prefs) to IE or Opera instead of the default
"Mask as Mozilla/Firefox" (it also happens with "ID as Firefox" in 9.10).

As the post mentions, this never used to be a problem before Opera decided
to change the UA emulation this summer.

"Jonathan A." <inv...@example.net> wrote in message
news:slrneoc8bt....@yomomma.example.net...

Jonathan A.

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Dec 19, 2006, 3:28:24 PM12/19/06
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On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 11:47:54 -0800, Milhouse Van Houten
<bt...@myrealbox.com> appears to have said:
>
> "Jonathan A." <inv...@example.net> wrote in message
> news:slrneoc8bt....@yomomma.example.net...
>
>>>> asdf wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 2. On my My Yahoo page when i click on the link a new tab opens
>>>>> up in the foreground.
>>
>> <http://userjs.org/scripts/general/enhancements/remove-blank>
>>
>> The declared target on my.yahoo.com pages seems to be "_content", so
>> you'd have to modify that script a bit to use it there.
>
> This is an Opera browser emulation problem, nothing to do with the site:

Well... I'd have to argue that it's still a yahoo issue. The
'target="_content"' bit is what causes the stories to open a new tab.
The page yahoo sends does not contain the spurious 'target' name except
when the user agent declares itself to be firefox.

What I mean is... although I agree that Opera is doing the wrong thing
in masking as Firefox, yahoo is responsible for the foolishness of
popping open stories in new tabs, nontheless.

Until yahoo figures out how to create pages that work equally well
in all browsers (likely never gonna happen) it's going to be tough
for Opera to keep up. :(

> http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=155359
>
> Change the emulation (in site prefs) to IE or Opera instead of the default
> "Mask as Mozilla/Firefox" (it also happens with "ID as Firefox" in 9.10).

I do agree with the forum post from your link above. It seems that
masking as firefox produces the worst of all possible results.

FWIW,

Milhouse Van Houten

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Dec 19, 2006, 4:01:29 PM12/19/06
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"Jonathan A." <inv...@example.net> wrote in message
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Good additional background, but does the fact that it doesn't happen *in*
Firefox change your mind about where the fault lies? Ironically, this is a
case where Opera's use of emulation causes the problem to occur (ironic
because emulation is typically used to solve problems, not create them).

Jonathan A.

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Dec 19, 2006, 6:32:39 PM12/19/06
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On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 13:01:29 -0800, Milhouse Van Houten

<bt...@myrealbox.com> appears to have said:

>
> "Jonathan A." <inv...@example.net> wrote in message

> news:slrneogir1....@yomomma.example.net...


>
>> Well... I'd have to argue that it's still a yahoo issue. The
>> 'target="_content"' bit is what causes the stories to open a new tab.
>> The page yahoo sends does not contain the spurious 'target' name except
>> when the user agent declares itself to be firefox.
>>
>> What I mean is... although I agree that Opera is doing the wrong thing
>> in masking as Firefox, yahoo is responsible for the foolishness of
>> popping open stories in new tabs, nontheless.
>

> Good additional background, but does the fact that it doesn't happen *in*
> Firefox change your mind about where the fault lies?

Hm... well... I was goiong to say that I still think they (Opera and
Yahoo) shared the blame... but a further bit of digging led me to this
page:

<http://devedge-temp.mozilla.org/viewsource/2002/sidebar>

It appears that the "_content" target is a proprietary target name used
by mozilla apps to ensure that links clicked from within a sidebar panel
load in the main browser window, rather than the sidebar. Seems to me
that Opera should not honor it at all but, if it's going to, surely the
idea is to load the content in the current window, not a new one.

On the other hand, <a target="foo"> causes a new tab to open in both
Firefox and Opera. So, it appears that any target attribute that isn't
found in the current page (or a frame within the current window) will
pop a new tab open in either browser. It's just that "_content" has a
special meaning for Firefox.

I'm not sure what the appropriate behavior on Opera's part should be
when encountering the moz-specific "_content" thing. My vote would be
for either ignoring it, or forcing the link to open in the *current*
tab, though.

IOW... I'm convnced. Yahoo's right and Opera's wrong. In this case,
at least.

Rijk van Geijtenbeek

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Dec 20, 2006, 7:44:13 AM12/20/06
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Op Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:32:39 +0100 schreef Jonathan A.
<inv...@example.net>:

..

> I'm not sure what the appropriate behavior on Opera's part should be
> when encountering the moz-specific "_content" thing. My vote would be
> for either ignoring it, or forcing the link to open in the *current*
> tab, though.

Ignoring would be wrong. If we don't recognize it as something special, we
should treat it as any other target attribute: create a new tab named with
the target addtribute value. You will note that if you open multiple links
with this target, they will all open in the same tab.

If we would recognize it we should support its sematics as well, reuseing
the current active tab.

> IOW... I'm convnced. Yahoo's right and Opera's wrong. In this case,
> at least.

Jonathan A.

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Dec 20, 2006, 1:41:51 PM12/20/06
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On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:44:13 +0100, Rijk van Geijtenbeek

<ri...@opera.removethiz.com> appears to have said:

> Op Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:32:39 +0100 schreef Jonathan A.
> <inv...@example.net>:
>

>> I'm not sure what the appropriate behavior on Opera's part should be
>> when encountering the moz-specific "_content" thing. My vote would be
>> for either ignoring it, or forcing the link to open in the *current*
>> tab, though.
>
> Ignoring would be wrong.

I dunno. Unless I'm missing something, it looks like "_content" is an
invalid target name, and *should* be ignored, according to spec.

<http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/types.html#h-6.16>

Except for the reserved names listed below, frame target names
(%FrameTarget; in the DTD) must begin with an alphabetic character
(a-zA-Z). User agents should ignore all other target names.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

(The reserved names being: _blank, _self, _parent, and _top.)

Anyhow, given the tradition all the major browsers seem to have of
allowing 'target="_anything"' to open new windows, I wouldn't expect
Opera to suddenly start behaving differently.

> If we would recognize it we should support its sematics as well, reuseing
> the current active tab.

Agreed. And since it is a meaningful name in the Mozilla world,
I think it would be "The Right Thing" to make a special case for
'target="_content".' After all, it does convey a desire on the
authors part that the link be opened in the current "tab," no?

JM2C

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