Escondido To Palomar Century 2/07/09
Chuck Bramwell
Escondido to Palomar Century
Saturday, February 7, 8:00 A.M.
78 Miles with about 9,000 Feet of Climbing
Rain Does Not Cancel but Freezing Rain on Palomar May Cancel
Let’s ride this Saturday where Lance and the Pros will ride on the Tour of California Stage 8.
You can see the climbs by clicking on the “8” for Stage 8 at
http://www.williamscycling.com/
We’ll be climbing Lake Wohlford Road, Palomar Mountain via South Grade, and Cole Grade Road. We’re not climbing Highland Valley because it’s only 388 Feet so it’s not really worth the extra miles to and from Rancho Bernardo.
The lower section of the Palomar Climb on Highway 76 is 5.1 miles at an average gradient of 6.0% and the upper section is 6.9 miles at an average gradient of 7.0%. It’s truly a world class climb which Floyd Landis has undoubtedly been training on numerous times a week lately since he lives in Temecula. There is an option on the Route Sheet to ride 5 miles up to the Observatory and climb another 1,300 Feet.
The Cole Grade Road climb is 2.1 miles and climbs 906 Feet for an average gradient of 8.2% with plenty of 10-12% pieces.
Let me know if you are coming by replying to this e-mail. I know there is plenty of interest in this ride and I’m really looking forward to it.
The Route Slip for the Escondido to Palomar Century for this coming Saturday is at
http://www.caltriplecrown.com/centuries/PalomarEscondidoColeGrade.xls
and printed copies will be available at the start of the ride.
Thanks to Troy Raffelson who designed the core part of this route which we first rode on 5/27/00. For this 2009 Tour of California version, after climbing Palomar Mountain, we’ll descend East Grade out near Lake Henshaw and then descend Highway 76 to the start of the Cole Grade Road climb where the sparks are really going to fly in the Tour of California with plenty of 10-12% pieces.
We will start at 8:00 A.M. since we’ll be driving down there and that will allow the temps to maybe warm up on Palomar so you should arrive by 7:45 A.M. This ride will start at Starbucks Coffee Shop at 1485 E. Valley Parkway #A, Escondido, CA 92027, (760) 747-6559 Elevation 674 Feet which is shown at
It’s about 67 miles down to the start but it’s way worth the drive!!
You should bring your riding buddy along with you so you can stick together. There is an optional Water Stop at mile 15 but with the forecasted weather, there shouldn’t be much of a need to stop there. The only other stop is at the top of Palomar where they have some really good Veggie Chili and Homemade Squaw Bread.
The weather could be a challenge with the 10 Day forecast for Palomar Mountain at
http://www.weather.com/outlook/recreation/outdoors/tenday/USCA0833?from=36hr_topnav_outdoors
showing a high of 49 Degrees and a 40% Chance of Rain. Our current thinking is that “Rain Does Not Cancel but Freezing Rain on Palomar May Cancel” so stayed tuned to the list for a go / no-go decision Friday night. For sure, you will want to be bringing lots of layers, long fingered gloves, and winter gear. On 3/15/08, the temperatures dipped down to 37 degrees at the top and my undershirt, Jersey, Arm Warmers, Vest, and Windbreaker weren’t enough to keep me from being really cold on the descent.
Ride safe,
Chuck Bramwell
Troy
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From: "Chuck Bramwell"
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 22:42:49 -0800
To: Cycling, OCWSatCentury on Google<OCWSat...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [OCWSatCentury] Escondido To Palomar Century 2/07/09
Miles, James S.
Jim
Miles
San Diego
Gas & Electric
Phone: 858.654.8602 Cell: 619.921.4026
jmi...@semprautilities.com
From: ocwsat...@googlegroups.com [mailto:ocwsat...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Bramwell
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:43 PM
To: Cycling, OCWSatCentury on Google
Subject: [OCWSatCentury] Escondido To Palomar Century 2/07/09
Bruce Campbell
Bruce Campbell
----- Original Message -----From: Chuck BramwellSent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:42 PMSubject: [OCWSatCentury] Escondido To Palomar Century 2/07/09
Colin Stokes
Chuck,
We’ll be there!
Thanks,
Colin & Julie Stokes
__________________________________
26771 Trasmiras, Mission Viejo, CA 92692
Tel. 949 348-1658
From: ocwsat...@googlegroups.com
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Behalf Of Chuck Bramwell
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009
10:43 PM
To: Cycling, OCWSatCentury on
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Subject: [OCWSatCentury] Escondido To Palomar
Century 2/07/09
Escondido to Palomar Century
Chuck Bramwell
Hi,
Weather.com is forecasting 70% chance of rain on Palomar Mountain all day long tomorrow at
http://www.weather.com/outlook/recreation/outdoors/hourbyhour/USCA0833?begHour=3&begDay=38
so it wouldn’t be good to ride up there tomorrow.
Let’s reschedule this ride to the following Saturday, 2/14/09 with a start time of 8:00 A.M. All details are below. Let me know if you are coming on 2/14/09 by replying to this e-mail.
Weather.com is forecasting a high of 55 degrees and 10% chance of rain on Palomar Mountain on 2/14/09 at
http://www.weather.com/outlook/recreation/outdoors/tenday/USCA0833?from=36hr_topnav_outdoors
Chuck
From: ocwsat...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:ocwsat...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Chuck Bramwell
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009
10:43 PM
To: Cycling,
OCWSatCentury on Google
Subject: [OCWSatCentury] Escondido To Palomar
Century 2/07/09
Escondido to Palomar Century
Jones Family
Jones Family
BriAnn Hoopes wrote:
no better way to spend valentines day than on the bike. Bring your sweetheart:-).
BriAnn Hoopes
11519 Kings Canyon Road SE
Albuquerque, NM 87123
(505) 385-8540
www.brihoopes.blogspot.com
BriAnn Hoopes
BriAnn Hoopes
11519 Kings Canyon Road SE
Albuquerque, NM 87123
(505) 385-8540
www.brihoopes.blogspot.com
Willie
Maybe we should think about Sunday 2/15?
Willie
On Feb 6, 5:14 pm, BriAnn Hoopes <brihoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> no better way to spend valentines day than on the bike. Bring your
> sweetheart:-).
> BriAnn Hoopes
> 11519 Kings Canyon Road SE
> Albuquerque, NM 87123
> (505) 385-8540www.brihoopes.blogspot.com
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Jones Family <jon...@cox.net> wrote:
> > I hope you all realize the 14th is Valentine's Day.
>
> > Chuck Bramwell wrote:
>
> > Hi,
>
> > Weather.com is forecasting 70% chance of rain on Palomar Mountain all day
> > long tomorrow at
>
> > so it wouldn't be good to ride up there tomorrow.
>
> > Let's reschedule this ride to the following Saturday, 2/14/09 with a start
> > time of 8:00 A.M. All details are below. Let me know if you are coming on
> > 2/14/09 by replying to this e-mail.
>
> > Weather.com is forecasting a high of 55 degrees and 10% chance of rain on
> > Palomar Mountain on 2/14/09 at
>
>
> > Chuck
>
> > ------------------------------
>
> > *From:* ocwsat...@googlegroups.com [
> > mailto:ocwsat...@googlegroups.com <ocwsat...@googlegroups.com>] *On
> > Behalf Of *Chuck Bramwell
> > *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2009 10:43 PM
> > *To:* Cycling, OCWSatCentury on Google
> > *Subject:* [OCWSatCentury] Escondido To Palomar Century 2/07/09
> > It's about 67 miles down to the start but it's way worth the drive!!
>
> > You should bring your riding buddy along with you so you can stick
> > together. There is an optional Water Stop at mile 15 but with the
> > forecasted weather, there shouldn't be much of a need to stop there. The
> > only other stop is at the top of Palomar where they have some really good
> > Veggie Chili and Homemade Squaw Bread.
>
> > The weather could be a challenge with the 10 Day forecast for Palomar
> > Mountain at
>
> > showing a high of 49 Degrees and a 40% Chance of Rain. Our current
> > thinking is that "Rain Does Not Cancel but Freezing Rain on Palomar May
> > Cancel" so stayed tuned to the list for a go / no-go decision Friday night.
> > For sure, you will want to be bringing lots of layers, long fingered gloves,
> > and winter gear. On 3/15/08, the temperatures dipped down to 37 degrees at
> > the top and my undershirt, Jersey, Arm Warmers, Vest, and Windbreaker
> > weren't enough to keep me from being really cold on the descent.
>
> > Ride safe,
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Chuck Bramwell
Let’s ride it for sure next Saturday 2/14/09. Let’s plan on keeping the stops short so we can get home and stay out of the dog house on Valentine’s day.
Don’t forget “Dual Bag” Dog House Management Science 101 at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F2md4uGmMU
Thanks to Kris Jones for reminding us about Valentine’s Day. She doesn’t want any of us to be in the Dog House next Saturday. J
The “Escondido to Palomar Century” and the “Oceanside to Palomar Century” that we rode last March are truly epic and fun training rides. We’ll plan on getting down to Palomar in March, April, and more this year. By April, it will be a lot nicer weather down there.
So if you really want to climb Palomar with a group, one option will be next Saturday 2/14/09 and there will be options in March and April as well.
Chuck
Chuck Bramwell
Hi,
Let’s do some epic climbing this Saturday. Think Andy Hampsten’s Epic Day On the Gavia at http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=1827
It can’t be that bad. J
Now think ahead to the Tour of California coming next week. Think Lance pacing Levi right up those same roads on Sunday, 2/22/09. The Schleck Brothers will be there. Chris Horner. Rubiera and Popo. Sastre. Hincapie. Cavendish. Vande Velde. Danielson. Floyd. Basso. Boonen. Freddie Rodriguez. Tyler Hamilton. Big Jens Voigt. Cancellera. All these guys will be climbing these same roads!!
Troy Raffelson says we’re riding in the Sun, Rain, or Snow so this ride will not be cancelled this Saturday. Bring your winter weather gear – it will be cold. Let’s plan on keeping the stops short so we can get home and stay out of the dog house on Valentine’s day.
The following riders are registered:
Chuck Bramwell riding Sun, Rain, or Snow
Laurie Caledonia?
Bruce Campbell?
Dan Crain?
Scott Davis?
Willie Hunt?
Alan Ptak riding Sun, Rain, or Snow
Troy Raffelson riding Sun, Rain, or Snow
Kris Jones, Gloria Nafel, Paul D’Aquanni, and Greg Kibble were riding this route today so they won’t be riding Saturday.
Shoot me an e-mail if you’re coming.
Please park in the Home Depot Parking Lot area so we don’t take all of the Starbuck parking spaces.
We’ll see you at 7:30ish Saturday morning in Escondido. All details are below,
Troy
Hey Chuck,
There were some of my guys down at Fiesta Island early on Tue morning doing our weekly sprint workouts when a lone rider came zipping past them on his TT bike. He did smile just long enough as he looked over for my guys to recognize the guy who just went flying by them as Carlos Sastre. They said he was absolutely motoring.
Troy
Miles, James S.
Jim
Miles
San Diego
Gas & Electric
Phone: 858.654.8602 Cell: 619.921.4026
jmi...@semprautilities.com
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 6:50 PM
To: 'Cycling, OCWSatCentury on Google'
Subject: [OCWSatCentury] Escondido To Palomar Century 2/14/09 Is On
Willie
From: Willie Hunt
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 11:08 AM
To: 'scott davis'; Bruce Campbell (IRVINE SSP)
Cc: kib...@cox.net; Willie Hunt
Subject: RE: FW: [OCWSatCentury] Escondido To Palomar Century 2/14/09
Is On
thin long top may be enough, maybe add arm, leg warmers, and or thin
long tights. However, on the way down with temps near freezing, I
recommend a fresh (IE dry) long top, a heavier insulated one, a rain
jacket over that, and thermal bib long tights for legs (or at least
thermal long tights), and rain pants over that. Also glove covers and
shoe covers will make your hands and feet much happier. I use
expedition gauntlet style mittens for cycling descents near freezing.
I realize this is a massive load of clothing, but I've got it dialed
in from my years of doing MTB's rides up Santiago in the snow.
However, if you do not want to take all the cloths up with you, my
wife in our Crew Cab F250 will provide SAG support, and can take your
cloths up to the top. I'm having her to this, because I'm not
concerned about climbing wet snow or a little ice, but descending it
could be a bad idea. It's much too easy to crash with slippery roads.
I always have a least one minor spill coming down Santiago in the snow
on my MTB. I have racks for 5 bicycles plus 2 in the camper top and
we have seating room for 3 more easy and 5 in a jam, should you want
to bail after the climb. Hopefully it will be a non-issue, so my
wife, daughter and myself will go play in the snow once I climb
Palomar, and enjoy the rest of valentines day. But if it's ugly, I
think it's wise to have a bailout plan.
Willie
Troy
Hi,
I heard that some folks might not come along on the Palomar ride tomorrow because we might get a little rain or it might be a little cold on Palomar. Well to them I quote Lance in his immortal role in the movie “Dodge Ball, A True Underdog Story” J
“Well, I guess if a person never quit when the going got tough, they wouldn't have anything to regret for the rest of their life. But good luck to you. I'm sure this decision won't haunt you forever.” Lance
The current forecast for Palomar tomorrow is a high or 47deg with only a 10% chance of precipitation with partly sunny skies.
"If you don’t have courage, you’ll ALWAYS find
a way NOT to win."
Carl Lewis
Current Doppler weather radar shows no snow or rain falling on Palomar What rain/snow is that is falling is over the Laguna Mountains (Kitchen Creek area) much farther south than Palomar Mtn.
"You only ever grow as a human being if you're outside your
comfort zone."
Percy Cerutty
I hope to see everyone there tomorrow morning.
From: ocwsat...@googlegroups.com [mailto:ocwsat...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Bramwell
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 18:50
Willie
stronger" but I like to add "it's best to avoid permanent injuries,
too"
Willie
On Feb 13, 10:28 pm, "Troy" <traffel...@cox.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I heard that some folks might not come along on the Palomar ride tomorrow
> because we might get a little rain or it might be a little cold on Palomar.
> Well to them I quote Lance in his immortal role in the movie "Dodge Ball, A
> True Underdog Story" J
>
> "Well, I guess if a person never quit when the going got tough, they
> wouldn't have anything to regret for the rest of their life. But good luck
> to you. I'm sure this decision won't haunt you forever." Lance
>
> "
> n_hour/346310.html> Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, or an hour, or
> take its place. If I quit, however, it lasts forever." Lance
>
> The current forecast for Palomar tomorrow is a high or 47deg with only a 10%
> chance of precipitation with partly sunny skies.
>
> "If you don't have courage, you'll ALWAYS find a way NOT to win."
> Carl Lewis
>
> Current Doppler weather radar shows no snow or rain falling on Palomar What
> rain/snow is that is falling is over the Laguna Mountains (Kitchen Creek
> area) much farther south than Palomar Mtn.
>
> "You only ever grow as a human being if you're outside your comfort zone."
> Percy Cerutty
>
> I hope to see everyone there tomorrow morning.
>
> From: ocwsat...@googlegroups.com [mailto:ocwsat...@googlegroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Chuck Bramwell
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 18:50
> To: 'Cycling, OCWSatCentury on Google'
> Subject: [OCWSatCentury] Escondido To Palomar Century 2/14/09 Is On
>
> Hi,
>
> Let's do some epic climbing this Saturday. Think Andy Hampsten's Epic Day
> On the Gavia athttp://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory
> It can't be that bad. J
>
> Now think ahead to the Tour of California coming next week. Think Lance
> pacing Levi right up those same roads on Sunday, 2/22/09. The Schleck
> Brothers will be there. Chris Horner. Rubiera and Popo. Sastre.
> Hincapie. Cavendish. Vande Velde. Danielson. Floyd. Basso. Boonen.
> Freddie Rodriguez. Tyler Hamilton. Big Jens Voigt. Cancellera. All these
> guys will be climbing these same roads!!
>
> Troy Raffelson says we're riding in the Sun, Rain, or Snow so this ride will
> of the dog house on Valentine's day.
>
> The following riders are registered:
>
> Chuck Bramwell riding Sun, Rain, or Snow
>
> Laurie Caledonia?
>
> Bruce Campbell?
>
> Dan Crain?
>
> Scott Davis?
>
> Willie Hunt?
>
> Alan Ptak riding Sun, Rain, or Snow
>
> Troy Raffelson riding Sun, Rain, or Snow
>
> Kris Jones, Gloria Nafel, Paul D'Aquanni, and Greg Kibble were riding this
> route today so they won't be riding Saturday.
>
> Shoot me an e-mail if you're coming.
>
> Please park in the Home Depot Parking Lot area so we don't take all of the
> Starbuck parking spaces.
>
> We'll see you at 7:30ish Saturday morning in Escondido. All details are
> below,
>
> Chuck
>
> _____
>
> On Behalf Of Chuck Bramwell
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:54 AM
> To: Cycling, OCWSatCentury on Google
> Subject: [OCWSatCentury] Escondido To Palomar Century 2/07/09 Rescheduled to
> 2/14/09
>
> Hi,
>
> Weather.com is forecasting 70% chance of rain on Palomar Mountain all day
> long tomorrow at
>
> ur=3
> <http://www.weather.com/outlook/recreation/outdoors/hourbyhour/USCA083...
> our=3&begDay=38> &begDay=38
> so it wouldn't be good to ride up there tomorrow.
>
> Let's reschedule this ride to the following Saturday, 2/14/09 with a start
> time of 8:00 A.M. All details are below. Let me know if you are coming on
> 2/14/09 by replying to this e-mail.
>
> Weather.com is forecasting a high of 55 degrees and 10% chance of rain on
> Palomar Mountain on 2/14/09 at
>
> _topnav_outdoors
>
> Chuck
>
> _____
> <http://maps.google.com/maps?daddr=1485+E+Valley+Pkwy,+Escondido,+CA+9...
> eocode=&dirflg=&saddr=4911+Tamarack+Way,+Irvine,+CA+92612&f=d&sll=33.134065,
> -117.061944&sspn=0.009092,0.019226&ie=UTF8&ll=33.119725,-117.073574&spn=0.03
> 6374,0.076904&z=14>
> &geocode=&dirflg=&saddr=4911+Tamarack+Way,+Irvine,+CA+92612&f=d&sll=33.13406
> 5,-117.061944&sspn=0.009092,0.019226&ie=UTF8&ll=33.119725,-117.073574&spn=0.
> 036374,0.076904&z=14
> It's about 67 miles down to the start but it's way worth the drive!!
>
> You should bring your riding buddy along with you so you can stick together.
> There is an optional Water Stop at mile 15 but with the forecasted weather,
> there shouldn't be much of a need to stop there. The only other stop is at
> the top of Palomar where they have some really good Veggie Chili and
> Homemade Squaw Bread.
>
> The weather could be a challenge with the 10 Day forecast for Palomar
> Mountain at
>
> _topnav_outdoors
> showing a high of 49 Degrees and a 40% Chance of Rain. Our current thinking
> is that "Rain Does Not Cancel but Freezing Rain on Palomar May Cancel" so
> stayed tuned to the list for a go / no-go decision Friday night. For sure,
> you will want to be bringing lots of layers, long fingered gloves, and
> winter gear. On 3/15/08, the temperatures dipped down to 37 degrees at the
> top and my undershirt, Jersey, Arm Warmers, Vest, and Windbreaker weren't
> enough to keep me from being really cold on the descent.
>
> Ride safe,
>
> Chuck Bramwell
>
> 47KViewDownload
Willie
stronger" but I like to add "it's best to avoid permanent injuries,
too"
Willie
On Feb 13, 10:28 pm, "Troy" <traffel...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> I heard that some folks might not come along on the Palomar ride tomorrow
> because we might get a little rain or it might be a little cold on Palomar.
> Well to them I quote Lance in his immortal role in the movie "Dodge Ball, A
> True Underdog Story" J
>
> "Well, I guess if a person never quit when the going got tough, they
> wouldn't have anything to regret for the rest of their life. But good luck
> to you. I'm sure this decision won't haunt you forever." Lance
>
> "
> n_hour/346310.html> Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, or an hour, or
> take its place. If I quit, however, it lasts forever." Lance
>
> The current forecast for Palomar tomorrow is a high or 47deg with only a 10%
> chance of precipitation with partly sunny skies.
>
> "If you don't have courage, you'll ALWAYS find a way NOT to win."
> Carl Lewis
>
> Current Doppler weather radar shows no snow or rain falling on Palomar What
> rain/snow is that is falling is over the Laguna Mountains (Kitchen Creek
> area) much farther south than Palomar Mtn.
>
> "You only ever grow as a human being if you're outside your comfort zone."
> Percy Cerutty
>
> I hope to see everyone there tomorrow morning.
>
> From: ocwsat...@googlegroups.com [mailto:ocwsat...@googlegroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Chuck Bramwell
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 18:50
> To: 'Cycling, OCWSatCentury on Google'
> Subject: [OCWSatCentury] Escondido To Palomar Century 2/14/09 Is On
>
> Hi,
>
> Let's do some epic climbing this Saturday. Think Andy Hampsten's Epic Day
> <http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=1827> &id=1827
>
>
> Now think ahead to the Tour of California coming next week. Think Lance
> pacing Levi right up those same roads on Sunday, 2/22/09. The Schleck
> Brothers will be there. Chris Horner. Rubiera and Popo. Sastre.
> Hincapie. Cavendish. Vande Velde. Danielson. Floyd. Basso. Boonen.
> Freddie Rodriguez. Tyler Hamilton. Big Jens Voigt. Cancellera. All these
> guys will be climbing these same roads!!
>
> Troy Raffelson says we're riding in the Sun, Rain, or Snow so this ride will
> of the dog house on Valentine's day.
>
> The following riders are registered:
>
> Chuck Bramwell riding Sun, Rain, or Snow
>
> Laurie Caledonia?
>
> Bruce Campbell?
>
> Dan Crain?
>
> Scott Davis?
>
> Willie Hunt?
>
> Alan Ptak riding Sun, Rain, or Snow
>
> Troy Raffelson riding Sun, Rain, or Snow
>
> Kris Jones, Gloria Nafel, Paul D'Aquanni, and Greg Kibble were riding this
> route today so they won't be riding Saturday.
>
> Shoot me an e-mail if you're coming.
>
> Please park in the Home Depot Parking Lot area so we don't take all of the
> Starbuck parking spaces.
>
> We'll see you at 7:30ish Saturday morning in Escondido. All details are
> below,
>
> Chuck
>
> _____
>
> On Behalf Of Chuck Bramwell
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:54 AM
> To: Cycling, OCWSatCentury on Google
> Subject: [OCWSatCentury] Escondido To Palomar Century 2/07/09 Rescheduled to
> 2/14/09
>
> Hi,
>
> Weather.com is forecasting 70% chance of rain on Palomar Mountain all day
> long tomorrow at
>
> ur=3
> <http://www.weather.com/outlook/recreation/outdoors/hourbyhour/USCA083...
> our=3&begDay=38> &begDay=38
>
>
> Let's reschedule this ride to the following Saturday, 2/14/09 with a start
> time of 8:00 A.M. All details are below. Let me know if you are coming on
> 2/14/09 by replying to this e-mail.
>
> Weather.com is forecasting a high of 55 degrees and 10% chance of rain on
> Palomar Mountain on 2/14/09 at
>
> _topnav_outdoors
>
> Chuck
>
> _____
> <http://maps.google.com/maps?daddr=1485+E+Valley+Pkwy,+Escondido,+CA+9...
> eocode=&dirflg=&saddr=4911+Tamarack+Way,+Irvine,+CA+92612&f=d&sll=33.134065,
> -117.061944&sspn=0.009092,0.019226&ie=UTF8&ll=33.119725,-117.073574&spn=0.03
> 6374,0.076904&z=14>
> &geocode=&dirflg=&saddr=4911+Tamarack+Way,+Irvine,+CA+92612&f=d&sll=33.13406
> 5,-117.061944&sspn=0.009092,0.019226&ie=UTF8&ll=33.119725,-117.073574&spn=0.
> 036374,0.076904&z=14
>
>
> You should bring your riding buddy along with you so you can stick together.
> There is an optional Water Stop at mile 15 but with the forecasted weather,
> there shouldn't be much of a need to stop there. The only other stop is at
> the top of Palomar where they have some really good Veggie Chili and
> Homemade Squaw Bread.
>
> The weather could be a challenge with the 10 Day forecast for Palomar
> Mountain at
>
> _topnav_outdoors
> showing a high of 49 Degrees and a 40% Chance of Rain. Our current thinking
> is that "Rain Does Not Cancel but Freezing Rain on Palomar May Cancel" so
> stayed tuned to the list for a go / no-go decision Friday night. For sure,
> you will want to be bringing lots of layers, long fingered gloves, and
> winter gear. On 3/15/08, the temperatures dipped down to 37 degrees at the
> top and my undershirt, Jersey, Arm Warmers, Vest, and Windbreaker weren't
> enough to keep me from being really cold on the descent.
>
> Ride safe,
>
> Chuck Bramwell
>
> 47KViewDownload
Willie
stronger" but I like to add "it's best to avoid permanent injuries,
too"
Willie
On Feb 13, 10:28 pm, "Troy" <traffel...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> I heard that some folks might not come along on the Palomar ride tomorrow
> because we might get a little rain or it might be a little cold on Palomar.
> Well to them I quote Lance in his immortal role in the movie "Dodge Ball, A
> True Underdog Story" J
>
> "Well, I guess if a person never quit when the going got tough, they
> wouldn't have anything to regret for the rest of their life. But good luck
> to you. I'm sure this decision won't haunt you forever." Lance
>
> "
> n_hour/346310.html> Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, or an hour, or
> take its place. If I quit, however, it lasts forever." Lance
>
> The current forecast for Palomar tomorrow is a high or 47deg with only a 10%
> chance of precipitation with partly sunny skies.
>
> "If you don't have courage, you'll ALWAYS find a way NOT to win."
> Carl Lewis
>
> Current Doppler weather radar shows no snow or rain falling on Palomar What
> rain/snow is that is falling is over the Laguna Mountains (Kitchen Creek
> area) much farther south than Palomar Mtn.
>
> "You only ever grow as a human being if you're outside your comfort zone."
> Percy Cerutty
>
> I hope to see everyone there tomorrow morning.
>
> From: ocwsat...@googlegroups.com [mailto:ocwsat...@googlegroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Chuck Bramwell
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 18:50
> To: 'Cycling, OCWSatCentury on Google'
> Subject: [OCWSatCentury] Escondido To Palomar Century 2/14/09 Is On
>
> Hi,
>
> Let's do some epic climbing this Saturday. Think Andy Hampsten's Epic Day
> <http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=1827> &id=1827
>
>
> Now think ahead to the Tour of California coming next week. Think Lance
> pacing Levi right up those same roads on Sunday, 2/22/09. The Schleck
> Brothers will be there. Chris Horner. Rubiera and Popo. Sastre.
> Hincapie. Cavendish. Vande Velde. Danielson. Floyd. Basso. Boonen.
> Freddie Rodriguez. Tyler Hamilton. Big Jens Voigt. Cancellera. All these
> guys will be climbing these same roads!!
>
> Troy Raffelson says we're riding in the Sun, Rain, or Snow so this ride will
> of the dog house on Valentine's day.
>
> The following riders are registered:
>
> Chuck Bramwell riding Sun, Rain, or Snow
>
> Laurie Caledonia?
>
> Bruce Campbell?
>
> Dan Crain?
>
> Scott Davis?
>
> Willie Hunt?
>
> Alan Ptak riding Sun, Rain, or Snow
>
> Troy Raffelson riding Sun, Rain, or Snow
>
> Kris Jones, Gloria Nafel, Paul D'Aquanni, and Greg Kibble were riding this
> route today so they won't be riding Saturday.
>
> Shoot me an e-mail if you're coming.
>
> Please park in the Home Depot Parking Lot area so we don't take all of the
> Starbuck parking spaces.
>
> We'll see you at 7:30ish Saturday morning in Escondido. All details are
> below,
>
> Chuck
>
> _____
>
> On Behalf Of Chuck Bramwell
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:54 AM
> To: Cycling, OCWSatCentury on Google
> Subject: [OCWSatCentury] Escondido To Palomar Century 2/07/09 Rescheduled to
> 2/14/09
>
> Hi,
>
> Weather.com is forecasting 70% chance of rain on Palomar Mountain all day
> long tomorrow at
>
> ur=3
> <http://www.weather.com/outlook/recreation/outdoors/hourbyhour/USCA083...
> our=3&begDay=38> &begDay=38
>
>
> Let's reschedule this ride to the following Saturday, 2/14/09 with a start
> time of 8:00 A.M. All details are below. Let me know if you are coming on
> 2/14/09 by replying to this e-mail.
>
> Weather.com is forecasting a high of 55 degrees and 10% chance of rain on
> Palomar Mountain on 2/14/09 at
>
> _topnav_outdoors
>
> Chuck
>
> _____
> <http://maps.google.com/maps?daddr=1485+E+Valley+Pkwy,+Escondido,+CA+9...
> eocode=&dirflg=&saddr=4911+Tamarack+Way,+Irvine,+CA+92612&f=d&sll=33.134065,
> -117.061944&sspn=0.009092,0.019226&ie=UTF8&ll=33.119725,-117.073574&spn=0.03
> 6374,0.076904&z=14>
> &geocode=&dirflg=&saddr=4911+Tamarack+Way,+Irvine,+CA+92612&f=d&sll=33.13406
> 5,-117.061944&sspn=0.009092,0.019226&ie=UTF8&ll=33.119725,-117.073574&spn=0.
> 036374,0.076904&z=14
>
>
> You should bring your riding buddy along with you so you can stick together.
> There is an optional Water Stop at mile 15 but with the forecasted weather,
> there shouldn't be much of a need to stop there. The only other stop is at
> the top of Palomar where they have some really good Veggie Chili and
> Homemade Squaw Bread.
>
> The weather could be a challenge with the 10 Day forecast for Palomar
> Mountain at
>
> _topnav_outdoors
> showing a high of 49 Degrees and a 40% Chance of Rain. Our current thinking
> is that "Rain Does Not Cancel but Freezing Rain on Palomar May Cancel" so
> stayed tuned to the list for a go / no-go decision Friday night. For sure,
> you will want to be bringing lots of layers, long fingered gloves, and
> winter gear. On 3/15/08, the temperatures dipped down to 37 degrees at the
> top and my undershirt, Jersey, Arm Warmers, Vest, and Windbreaker weren't
> enough to keep me from being really cold on the descent.
>
> Ride safe,
>
> Chuck Bramwell
>
> 47KViewDownload
John Renowden
Well I am here in Florida just mustering for the ride start at 5:00 EST. Its in the 70s and will be in the 80s by the time we finish. So I guess I will be a hot dogs. No unerdogs here.
John
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From: ocwsat...@googlegroups.com <ocwsat...@googlegroups.com>
To: cbr...@caltriplecrown.com <cbr...@caltriplecrown.com>; 'Cycling, OCWSatCentury on Google' <OCWSat...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Fri Feb 13 22:28:04 2009
Subject: [OCWSatCentury] Re: Escondido To Palomar Century 2/14/09 Is On
Hi,
I heard that some folks might not come along on the Palomar ride tomorrow because we might get a little rain or it might be a little cold on Palomar. Well to them I quote Lance in his immortal role in the movie “Dodge Ball, A True Underdog Story” J
“Well, I guess if a person never quit when the going got tough, they wouldn't have anything to regret for the rest of their life. But good luck to you. I'm sure this decision won't haunt you forever.” Lance
“ <http://thinkexist.com/quotation/pain_is_temporary-it_may_last_a_minute-or_an_hour/346310.html> Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, or an hour, or a day, or a year, but eventually it will subside and something else will take its place. If I quit, however, it lasts forever.” Lance
The current forecast for Palomar tomorrow is a high or 47deg with only a 10% chance of precipitation with partly sunny skies.
"If you don’t have courage, you’ll ALWAYS find a way NOT to win."
Carl Lewis
Current Doppler weather radar shows no snow or rain falling on Palomar What rain/snow is that is falling is over the Laguna Mountains (Kitchen Creek area) much farther south than Palomar Mtn.
"You only ever grow as a human being if you're outside your comfort zone."
Percy Cerutty
I hope to see everyone there tomorrow morning.
From: ocwsat...@googlegroups.com [mailto:ocwsat...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Bramwell
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 18:50
To: 'Cycling, OCWSatCentury on Google'
Subject: [OCWSatCentury] Escondido To Palomar Century 2/14/09 Is On
Hi,
Let’s do some epic climbing this Saturday. Think Andy Hampsten’s Epic Day On the Gavia at http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory <http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=1827> &id=1827
It can’t be that bad. J
Now think ahead to the Tour of California coming next week. Think Lance pacing Levi right up those same roads on Sunday, 2/22/09. The Schleck Brothers will be there. Chris Horner. Rubiera and Popo. Sastre. Hincapie. Cavendish. Vande Velde. Danielson. Floyd. Basso. Boonen. Freddie Rodriguez. Tyler Hamilton. Big Jens Voigt. Cancellera. All these guys will be climbing these same roads!!
Troy Raffelson says we’re riding in the Sun, Rain, or Snow so this ride will not be cancelled this Saturday. Bring your winter weather gear – it will be cold. Let’s plan on keeping the stops short so we can get home and stay out of the dog house on Valentine’s day.
The following riders are registered:
Chuck Bramwell riding Sun, Rain, or Snow
Laurie Caledonia?
Bruce Campbell?
Dan Crain?
Scott Davis?
Willie Hunt?
Alan Ptak riding Sun, Rain, or Snow
Troy Raffelson riding Sun, Rain, or Snow
Kris Jones, Gloria Nafel, Paul D’Aquanni, and Greg Kibble were riding this route today so they won’t be riding Saturday.
Shoot me an e-mail if you’re coming.
Please park in the Home Depot Parking Lot area so we don’t take all of the Starbuck parking spaces.
We’ll see you at 7:30ish Saturday morning in Escondido. All details are below,
Chuck
_____
From: ocwsat...@googlegroups.com [mailto:ocwsat...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Bramwell
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:54 AM
To: Cycling, OCWSatCentury on Google
Subject: [OCWSatCentury] Escondido To Palomar Century 2/07/09 Rescheduled to 2/14/09
Hi,
Weather.com is forecasting 70% chance of rain on Palomar Mountain all day long tomorrow at
http://www.weather.com/outlook/recreation/outdoors/hourbyhour/USCA0833?begHour=3 <http://www.weather.com/outlook/recreation/outdoors/hourbyhour/USCA0833?begHour=3&begDay=38> &begDay=38
so it wouldn’t be good to ride up there tomorrow.
Let’s reschedule this ride to the following Saturday, 2/14/09 with a start time of 8:00 A.M. All details are below. Let me know if you are coming on 2/14/09 by replying to this e-mail.
Weather.com is forecasting a high of 55 degrees and 10% chance of rain on Palomar Mountain on 2/14/09 at
Chuck
_____
From: ocwsat...@googlegroups.com [mailto:ocwsat...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Bramwell
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:43 PM
To: Cycling, OCWSatCentury on Google
Subject: [OCWSatCentury] Escondido To Palomar Century 2/07/09
Escondido to Palomar Century
Saturday, February 7, 8:00 A.M.
78 Miles with about 9,000 Feet of Climbing
Rain Does Not Cancel but Freezing Rain on Palomar May Cancel
Let’s ride this Saturday where Lance and the Pros will ride on the Tour of California Stage 8.
You can see the climbs by clicking on the “8” for Stage 8 at
http://www.williamscycling.com/
We’ll be climbing Lake Wohlford Road, Palomar Mountain via South Grade, and Cole Grade Road. We’re not climbing Highland Valley because it’s only 388 Feet so it’s not really worth the extra miles to and from Rancho Bernardo.
The lower section of the Palomar Climb on Highway 76 is 5.1 miles at an average gradient of 6.0% and the upper section is 6.9 miles at an average gradient of 7.0%. It’s truly a world class climb which Floyd Landis has undoubtedly been training on numerous times a week lately since he lives in Temecula. There is an option on the Route Sheet to ride 5 miles up to the Observatory and climb another 1,300 Feet.
The Cole Grade Road climb is 2.1 miles and climbs 906 Feet for an average gradient of 8.2% with plenty of 10-12% pieces.
Let me know if you are coming by replying to this e-mail. I know there is plenty of interest in this ride and I’m really looking forward to it.
The Route Slip for the Escondido to Palomar Century for this coming Saturday is at
http://www.caltriplecrown.com/centuries/PalomarEscondidoColeGrade.xls
and printed copies will be available at the start of the ride.
Thanks to Troy Raffelson who designed the core part of this route which we first rode on 5/27/00. For this 2009 Tour of California version, after climbing Palomar Mountain, we’ll descend East Grade out near Lake Henshaw and then descend Highway 76 to the start of the Cole Grade Road climb where the sparks are really going to fly in the Tour of California with plenty of 10-12% pieces.
We will start at 8:00 A.M. since we’ll be driving down there and that will allow the temps to maybe warm up on Palomar so you should arrive by 7:45 A.M. This ride will start at Starbucks Coffee Shop at 1485 E. Valley Parkway #A, Escondido, CA 92027, (760) 747-6559 Elevation 674 Feet which is shown at
http://maps.google.com/maps?daddr=1485+E+Valley+Pkwy,+Escondido,+CA+92027 <http://maps.google.com/maps?daddr=1485+E+Valley+Pkwy,+Escondido,+CA+92027&geocode=&dirflg=&saddr=4911+Tamarack+Way,+Irvine,+CA+92612&f=d&sll=33.134065,-117.061944&sspn=0.009092,0.019226&ie=UTF8&ll=33.119725,-117.073574&spn=0.036374,0.076904&z=14> &geocode=&dirflg=&saddr=4911+Tamarack+Way,+Irvine,+CA+92612&f=d&sll=33.134065,-117.061944&sspn=0.009092,0.019226&ie=UTF8&ll=33.119725,-117.073574&spn=0.036374,0.076904&z=14
It’s about 67 miles down to the start but it’s way worth the drive!!
You should bring your riding buddy along with you so you can stick together. There is an optional Water Stop at mile 15 but with the forecasted weather, there shouldn’t be much of a need to stop there. The only other stop is at the top of Palomar where they have some really good Veggie Chili and Homemade Squaw Bread.
The weather could be a challenge with the 10 Day forecast for Palomar Mountain at
Dan Crain
Willie
definitely has world class power output!
Having the wife and kid along was both an asset and a liability. At
the first stop, it allowed me to switch clothing around for the climb,
which worked out nicely until near the top I was getting a bit cold in
hands and feet. Nearing the top a truck passes quite fast in a slushy
spot and it sprayed me with slush. That cooled me right off. Then at
the top, Sierra (my daughter) was sledding down the snow, and so I was
watching her, and then she slid down under our truck. She was not
hurt, but she was scared, and need consoling. Then I realized I
needed to get over to the store, and check on who was up at the top
that might have needed the cloths that we carried up, because our
truck was not in the store parking lot. In the process of trying to
go back and forth I had neglected to take care of the fact that I was
soaking wet, and I started shivering and then my asthma faired up. It
was time to get into the truck, change all my clothes and just warm-up
properly. After I did that I felt much better. Of course then I had
absolutely no desire to ride down the mountain, and also, I wanted
this to be a family outing, and I'd had my fun (doing the BIG climb),
so it was time to bag it.
Since my computer broke, I have no clue how fast I climbed Palomar,
but passed various other riders. Amber was the only one that passed
me. I'll just have to go back and do it again, and the next time with
a little more gearing. I have a 34 front ring and a 28 rear, but the
cadence was dropping too low on the steeper parts. Much of the time
it was good and I could keep it up over 90, where I need it to be.
Otherwise I do not optimal power, and my knees complain later. My
knees were a bit tweaked after the climb, but they have been tweaked
all week. I'm glad I did not torture my knees on Cole Grade. I'm
going to use a bigger rear cassette for these climbs from now on.
So, Chuck you can put me down for 28 miles. It was a short ride, but I
got my money's worth!
Willie
PS
I have someone's black rain pants in a white canvas stuff sack.
On Feb 14, 8:23 pm, Dan Crain <dcrain9...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Anyone else see Amber Neben motoring on Palomar? She passed Chris Hansen and me like we were standing still. She recently won the Female World's timetrial. I only know because I saw her speak at a OCW meeting last fall. She talked the World's, which she won, and the Olympics, where she lost her chance to win when she dropped her chain when trying to shift to the small chainring at the last climb before the fiish. Her stories brought us all the scene, just like we were there! She was riding with another female, and her coach, Dave Jordaan, was sagging her.
>
> Chris & I finished about 3:00. Our time from store to store was about 1:44. East Grade was very cold and wind-exposed, and it took forever to get low enough for it to warm up. When we climbed Cole Grade, a resident asked if we were coming next weekend. I said yes, and he said that he might have a big screen TV set up for those lining the climb. His place was on the right side as you climb, about 1/2 way to the top. His place was mobbed with yellow wildflowers on the side of the hill.
>
> Overall, great ride. Thanks to all.
>
> k Bramwell <cbr...@caltriplecrown.com> wrote:
>
> Let’s do some epic climbing this Saturday. Think Andy Hampsten’s Epic Day On the Gavia athttp://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=1827
>
>
> Now think ahead to the Tour of California coming next week. Think Lance pacing Levi right up those same roads on Sunday, 2/22/09. The Schleck Brothers will be there. Chris Horner. Rubiera and Popo. Sastre. Hincapie. Cavendish. Vande Velde. Danielson. Floyd. Basso. Boonen. Freddie Rodriguez. Tyler Hamilton. Big Jens Voigt. Cancellera. All these guys will be climbing these same roads!!
>
> Troy Raffelson says we’re riding in the Sun, Rain, or Snow so this ride will not be cancelled this Saturday. Bring your winter weather gear – it will be cold. Let’s plan on keeping the stops short so we can get home and stay out of the dog house on Valentine’s day.
>
> The following riders are registered:
>
> Chuck Bramwell riding Sun, Rain, or Snow
>
> Laurie Caledonia?
>
> Bruce Campbell?
>
> Dan Crain?
>
> Scott Davis?
>
> Willie Hunt?
>
> Alan Ptak riding Sun, Rain, or Snow
>
> Troy Raffelson riding Sun, Rain, or Snow
>
> Kris Jones, Gloria Nafel, Paul D’Aquanni, and Greg Kibble were riding this route today so they won’t be riding Saturday.
>
> Shoot me an e-mail if you’re coming.
>
> Please park in the Home Depot Parking Lot area so we don’t take all of the Starbuck parking spaces.
>
> We’ll see you at 7:30ish Saturday morning in Escondido. All details are below,
>
> Chuck
>
> From: ocwsat...@googlegroups.com [mailto:ocwsat...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Bramwell
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:54 AM
> To: Cycling, OCWSatCentury on Google
> Subject: [OCWSatCentury] Escondido To Palomar Century 2/07/09 Rescheduled to 2/14/09
>
> Hi,
>
> Weather.com is forecasting 70% chance of rain on Palomar Mountain all day long tomorrow at
>
> so it wouldn’t be good to ride up there tomorrow.
>
> Let’s reschedule this ride to the following Saturday, 2/14/09 with a start time of 8:00 A.M. All details are below. Let me know if you are coming on 2/14/09 by replying to this e-mail.
>
> Weather.com is forecasting a high of 55 degrees and 10% chance of rain on Palomar Mountain on 2/14/09 at
>
>
> Chuck
>
> ---------------------------------
> From: ocwsat...@googlegroups.com [mailto:ocwsat...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Bramwell
> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:43 PM
> To: Cycling, OCWSatCentury on Google
> Subject: [OCWSatCentury] Escondido To Palomar Century 2/07/09
>
> Escondido to Palomar Century
> Saturday, February 7, 8:00 A.M.
> 78 Miles with about 9,000 Feet of Climbing
> Rain Does Not Cancel but Freezing Rain on Palomar May Cancel
>
> Let’s ride this Saturday where Lance and the Pros will ride on the Tour of California Stage 8.
>
> You can see the climbs by clicking on the “8” for Stage 8 at
>
> http://www.williamscycling.com/
>
> We’ll be climbing Lake Wohlford Road, Palomar Mountain via South Grade, and Cole Grade Road. We’re not climbing Highland Valley because it’s only 388 Feet so it’s not really worth the extra miles to and from Rancho Bernardo.
>
> The lower section of the Palomar Climb on Highway 76 is 5.1 miles at an average gradient of 6.0% and the upper section is 6.9 miles at an average gradient of 7.0%. It’s truly a world class climb which Floyd Landis has undoubtedly been training on numerous times a week lately since he lives in Temecula. There is an option on the Route Sheet to ride 5 miles up to the Observatory and climb another 1,300 Feet.
>
> The Cole Grade Road climb is 2.1 miles and climbs 906 Feet for an average gradient of 8.2% with plenty of 10-12% pieces.
>
> Let me know if you are coming by replying to this e-mail. I know there is plenty of interest in this ride and I’m really looking forward to it.
>
> The Route Slip for the Escondido to Palomar Century for this coming Saturday is at
>
> http://www.caltriplecrown.com/centuries/PalomarEscondidoColeGrade.xls
>
> and printed copies will be available at the start of the ride.
>
> Thanks to Troy Raffelson who designed the core part of this route which we first rode on 5/27/00. For this 2009 Tour of California version, after climbing Palomar Mountain, we’ll descend East Grade out near Lake Henshaw and then descend Highway 76 to the start of the Cole Grade Road climb where the sparks are really going to fly in the Tour of California with plenty of 10-12% pieces.
>
> We will start at 8:00 A.M. since we’ll be driving down there and that will allow the temps to maybe warm up on Palomar so you should arrive by 7:45 A.M. This ride will start at Starbucks Coffee Shop at 1485 E. Valley Parkway #A, Escondido, CA 92027, (760) 747-6559 Elevation 674 Feet which is shown at
>
> It’s about 67 miles down to the start but it’s way worth the drive!!
>
> You should bring your riding buddy along with you so you can stick together. There is an optional Water Stop at mile 15 but with the forecasted weather, there shouldn’t be much of a need to stop there. The only other stop is at the top of Palomar where they have some really good Veggie Chili and Homemade Squaw Bread.
>
> The weather could be a challenge with the 10 Day forecast for Palomar Mountain at
>
> showing a high of 49 Degrees and a 40% Chance of Rain. Our current thinking is that “Rain Does Not Cancel but Freezing Rain on Palomar May Cancel” so stayed tuned to the list for a go / no-go decision Friday night. For sure, you will want to be bringing lots of layers, long fingered gloves, and winter gear. On 3/15/08, the temperatures dipped down to 37 degrees at the top and my undershirt, Jersey, Arm Warmers, Vest, and Windbreaker weren’t enough to keep me from being really cold on the descent.
>
> Ride safe,
>
> Chuck Bramwell
>
> 47KViewDownload
Chuck Bramwell
From: Charles Chen
[mailto:chuckthec...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009
7:30 PM
To: cbr...@caltriplecrown.com
Subject: Re: [OCWSatCentury] Escondido To Palomar
Century 2/14/09 Is On
Hi Chuck,
Excellent ride! Thanks for organizing it! Attached is a picture of
Mike Greene and his friend Gary (didn't catch his last name) at the Palomar
General Store.
Chuck Chen
cgha...@earthlink.net
I AGREE! I didn't realize that was you (Chuck C) You guys were out in front so fast I didn't have time to chat with you. Haven't seen you since our TT adventure last year. Also, did not get to chat with you Chuck (Chuck B) at the start. I was turned around a little trying to find the meeting place and got away from home a little late to start with.
Anyway, thanks for putting together this incredible day. It was well worth the drive. The only place I was really outside my comfort zone was the descent on East Grade. My core was fine, but my fingers were totally numb. I have yet to ride down that road in comfortable conditions.The last time I rode there was in 2005 on the 300k brevet. It was raining and 38F. I fondly remember the soup and fresh squaw bread at Mothers. Also the fireplace.I wore out a pair of new front brake pads that ride. Tom Parkes and I also did some bonus miles and ended up on a dirt road on the Indian reservation. We were chased by a bunch of dogs down to the Casino. Another epic day by all means.
Those women riders training on the climb were awesome. They passed Dan and I on their second climb of the day. On the first climb they only made it to the 4000 ft level before turning around. Our timing was perfect.
Only problem now is where to watch the pros next weekend. I may need to get in my car and head that way after the Camino Real DC to find a good spot.
Thanks again,
Chris Hanson
-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Bramwell
Sent: Feb 15, 2009 7:56 AM
To: "Cycling, OCWSatCentury on Google"
ROBERT TRIPP
Yes, I saw her, but didn't know who she was at the time. She gave me a few words of encouragement when she passed, which was a bit emasculating. I am just glad she didn't see me crying in pain on the decent.
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