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Terry R.

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Aug 17, 2009, 1:18:41 PM8/17/09
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Since upgrading to 3.5, FF is no longer saving words I enter into the
default home page. In fact, it has wiped it out completely.

I created a profile backup prior to the update. What file are those
stored in and what setting has changed to cause this?


Terry R.
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David McRitchie

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Aug 17, 2009, 3:04:33 PM8/17/09
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"Terry R." ...

> Since upgrading to 3.5, FF is no longer saving words I enter into the
> default home page. In fact, it has wiped it out completely.
>
> I created a profile backup prior to the update. What file are those
> stored in and what setting has changed to cause this?

If you updated your old profile should be in use.

Things that might affect your results.
1) being signed in to a Google account or a different Google account.
2) not being signed in to Google
3) Options specified in Google account, or options specified through Firefox cookies.
4) Firefox configuration preferences, right-click on search engines, at the
the bottom you will find a checkbox for "Show search suggestions"
each letter entered into search box after the first two is evaluated in
context at Google.

Not related to query but for similar types of questions
5) "Customize Google" extension stores it's own options to be used at
Google, when the extension is active.

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Terry R.

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Aug 17, 2009, 4:10:45 PM8/17/09
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The date and time was Monday, August 17, 2009 12:04:33 PM , and on a
whim, David McRitchie pounded out on the keyboard:

> "Terry R." ...
>> Since upgrading to 3.5, FF is no longer saving words I enter into the
>> default home page. In fact, it has wiped it out completely.
>>
>> I created a profile backup prior to the update. What file are those
>> stored in and what setting has changed to cause this?
>
> If you updated your old profile should be in use.
>

Same profile was in use from 3.0.xx to 3.5

> Things that might affect your results.
> 1) being signed in to a Google account or a different Google account.
> 2) not being signed in to Google
> 3) Options specified in Google account, or options specified through Firefox cookies.
> 4) Firefox configuration preferences, right-click on search engines, at the
> the bottom you will find a checkbox for "Show search suggestions"
> each letter entered into search box after the first two is evaluated in
> context at Google.
>

This is happening just from the Google search page that is the default
in FF.

> Not related to query but for similar types of questions
> 5) "Customize Google" extension stores it's own options to be used at
> Google, when the extension is active.
>

Terry R.

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Terry R.

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Aug 18, 2009, 11:34:01 AM8/18/09
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The date and time was Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:28:11 AM , and on a
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> On 17.08.2009 19:18, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Terry R. to
> generate the following:? :


>> Since upgrading to 3.5, FF is no longer saving words I enter into the
>> default home page. In fact, it has wiped it out completely.
>>
>> I created a profile backup prior to the update. What file are those
>> stored in and what setting has changed to cause this?
>>
>>
>> Terry R.
>>
>

> well Terry - reading all the problems that have come up since
> FF3.5.*..... seems that "they" have seriously screwed this version!
>
> reg

Between this issue and the devs "forcing" a new download location that
changed whatever a prior user had set as a default is VERY annoying.

Ron Hunter

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Aug 18, 2009, 12:34:02 PM8/18/09
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squaredancer wrote:
> On 17.08.2009 19:18, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Terry R. to
> generate the following:? :
>> Since upgrading to 3.5, FF is no longer saving words I enter into the
>> default home page. In fact, it has wiped it out completely.
>>
>> I created a profile backup prior to the update. What file are those
>> stored in and what setting has changed to cause this?
>>
>>
>> Terry R.
>>
>
> well Terry - reading all the problems that have come up since
> FF3.5.*..... seems that "they" have seriously screwed this version!
>
> reg
What do YOU know about it? You are still using a version from the
previous CENTURY.
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News

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Aug 19, 2009, 9:10:36 AM8/19/09
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squaredancer wrote:
> On 18.08.2009 18:34, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Ron Hunter to
> generate the following:? :
>> squaredancer wrote:
>>
>>> On 17.08.2009 19:18, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Terry R. to
>>> generate the following:? :
>>>
>>>> Since upgrading to 3.5, FF is no longer saving words I enter into
>>>> the default home page. In fact, it has wiped it out completely.
>>>>
>>>> I created a profile backup prior to the update. What file are those
>>>> stored in and what setting has changed to cause this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Terry R.
>>>>
>>> well Terry - reading all the problems that have come up since
>>> FF3.5.*..... seems that "they" have seriously screwed this version!
>>>
>>> reg
>>>
>> What do YOU know about it? You are still using a version from the
>> previous CENTURY.
>>
>
> QUOTE:
> ...reading all the problems that have come up since FF3.5.*.....
> UNQUOTE
>
> YOU can read, I presume.... but it seems, only the posts that you want
> to know about....
>
> Try being honest with yourself... FF3.5.* is screwed pretty badly for
> MANY POSTERS here.
>
> reg


Yeah, and the apologists will all tell you "It's a feature...."

Ron Hunter

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Aug 19, 2009, 9:56:53 AM8/19/09
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squaredancer wrote:
> On 18.08.2009 18:34, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Ron Hunter to
> generate the following:? :
>> squaredancer wrote:
>>
>>> On 17.08.2009 19:18, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Terry R. to
>>> generate the following:? :
>>>
>>>> Since upgrading to 3.5, FF is no longer saving words I enter into the
>>>> default home page. In fact, it has wiped it out completely.
>>>>
>>>> I created a profile backup prior to the update. What file are those
>>>> stored in and what setting has changed to cause this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Terry R.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> well Terry - reading all the problems that have come up since
>>> FF3.5.*..... seems that "they" have seriously screwed this version!
>>>
>>> reg
>>>
>> What do YOU know about it? You are still using a version from the
>> previous CENTURY.
>>
>
> QUOTE:
> ...reading all the problems that have come up since FF3.5.*.....
> UNQUOTE
>
> YOU can read, I presume.... but it seems, only the posts that you want
> to know about....
>
> Try being honest with yourself... FF3.5.* is screwed pretty badly for
> MANY POSTERS here.
>
> reg
I am using it on three computers. The only problem I have is that on
one computer, it randomly displays the start page, then terminates with
no message. Restart always works normally. I will investigate the
cause someday.
Perhaps if all the millions of users who are using 3.5.* with no
problems would post here, then there would be some balance to the few
who are having trouble. Note that the troubles are mostly configuration
issues, or users who need to know how to customize their program for
their particular needs.
ANY update will negatively impact some of the millions of users in some
way. So this is why we shouldn't ever change anything, right?

Dave Symes

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Aug 19, 2009, 2:00:45 PM8/19/09
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In article <Z8udnabiEfo7mRHX...@mozilla.org>,

Ron Hunter <rphu...@charter.net> wrote:
> Perhaps if all the millions of users who are using 3.5.* with no
> problems would post here, then there would be some balance to the few
> who are having trouble.

Granted I'm only 1 person, but I do have 3.5.2 installed on three Win
machines (2 XP-SP3 and 1 Vista SP1) and also 3.5.2 installed on Ubuntu
9.04 and I can't say I've noticed any particular problems on any of the
installs.

All have a number of Addons installed, though not that many, probably 8 to
10 depending which machine.

Dave

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Terry R.

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Aug 19, 2009, 5:49:08 PM8/19/09
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The date and time was Wednesday, August 19, 2009 3:59:58 AM , and on a
whim, squaredancer pounded out on the keyboard:

> On 18.08.2009 18:34, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Ron Hunter to

> generate the following:? :
>> squaredancer wrote:
>>
>>> On 17.08.2009 19:18, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Terry R. to
>>> generate the following:? :
>>>
>>>> Since upgrading to 3.5, FF is no longer saving words I enter into the
>>>> default home page. In fact, it has wiped it out completely.
>>>>
>>>> I created a profile backup prior to the update. What file are those
>>>> stored in and what setting has changed to cause this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Terry R.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> well Terry - reading all the problems that have come up since
>>> FF3.5.*..... seems that "they" have seriously screwed this version!
>>>
>>> reg
>>>
>> What do YOU know about it? You are still using a version from the
>> previous CENTURY.
>>
>

> QUOTE:
> ...reading all the problems that have come up since FF3.5.*.....
> UNQUOTE
>
> YOU can read, I presume.... but it seems, only the posts that you want
> to know about....
>
> Try being honest with yourself... FF3.5.* is screwed pretty badly for
> MANY POSTERS here.
>
> reg

On top of 3.5 losing my saved queries, the last update has twice given
me a "This is really embarrassing..." screen when starting FF.
Apparently FF didn't think it was shut down properly and when restarting
it couldn't restore the tabs. Never had that happen before either...

Gord McFee

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Aug 19, 2009, 8:47:03 PM8/19/09
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I agree and I am having no problem at all.

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Chris Ilias

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Nov 9, 2010, 1:56:31 PM11/9/10
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On 09-08-17 1:18 PM, Terry R. wrote:
> Since upgrading to 3.5, FF is no longer saving words I enter into the
> default home page. In fact, it has wiped it out completely.
>
> I created a profile backup prior to the update. What file are those
> stored in and what setting has changed to cause this?

Do you still have this problem?

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Fox on the run

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Nov 9, 2010, 2:10:12 PM11/9/10
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I did some testing. In Google's case if you have the default settings
which is to use Google Instant (their query prediction feature) the
terms are not saved as form data in formhistory.sqlite. If you go
into the settings and tell Google you do not want to use that feature,
it does save it in your form history. The setting is saved in a
cookie called PREF with a colon delimited string in the value field.
One of the "fields" in the colon delimited string is SG=. The two
possibilities are 0 or 1. 1 is the default, which is to use Google
Instant. 0 is to not use it.

This means if you clear your cookies on exit you'll lose this
setting. And if you use another profile or another version of FF or
whatever it will not have that same cookie setting in it.

Yahoo! has the same ability, to change the settings to either suggest
stuff or not much like Google Instant. But in that case, regardless
which I chose I didn't see any difference. No form data was retained.

JB

Terry R.

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Nov 9, 2010, 2:52:16 PM11/9/10
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On 11/9/2010 10:56 AM On a whim, Chris Ilias pounded out on the keyboard

> On 09-08-17 1:18 PM, Terry R. wrote:
>> Since upgrading to 3.5, FF is no longer saving words I enter into the
>> default home page. In fact, it has wiped it out completely.
>>
>> I created a profile backup prior to the update. What file are those
>> stored in and what setting has changed to cause this?
>
> Do you still have this problem?
>

Since I don't use FF on a daily basis since this was an unresolvable
issue, no.

Like I mentioned, it would start saving for a time, then they'd get
wiped out. Same with password authentication, I would log in at times
with no issues, then I would randomly have to authenticate the computer
again.

Chris Ilias

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Nov 10, 2010, 4:09:15 PM11/10/10
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On 10-11-09 2:52 PM, Terry R. wrote:
> On 11/9/2010 10:56 AM On a whim, Chris Ilias pounded out on the keyboard
>
>> On 09-08-17 1:18 PM, Terry R. wrote:
>>> Since upgrading to 3.5, FF is no longer saving words I enter into the
>>> default home page. In fact, it has wiped it out completely.
>>>
>>> I created a profile backup prior to the update. What file are those
>>> stored in and what setting has changed to cause this?
>>
>> Do you still have this problem?
>>
>
> Since I don't use FF on a daily basis since this was an unresolvable
> issue, no.
>
> Like I mentioned, it would start saving for a time, then they'd get
> wiped out. Same with password authentication, I would log in at times
> with no issues, then I would randomly have to authenticate the computer
> again.

Just in case you're still interested in fixing it...

Right now, I'm guessing that you've some software on your system set to
clear that info regularly or whenever you do system maintenance
(housecleaning).

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