Fwd: Magic Firmware UI
Alex
Here's a very interesting proposal for ML user interface from one of our users.
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From: Abel Santos <alfa...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:44 PM
Subject: Magic Firmware UI
To: broscu...@gmail.com
Hi Alex,
As probably often repeated by just about everyone, you work on ML has
been impressive, as is Magic Lantern in it's entirety.
I'd love to contribute to it's development, in my case on what I can
do best - Interface design.
The screens I am attaching are simply a very rough draft, I already
have a few more ideas and improvements. I'm aware of the technical
limitations on the menu front, Trammel mentioned them on the planet5D
interview, but I believe there is plenty of room for improvement, both
for ease of use and usability as well as a little visual improvement.
On the screens attached I was playing with the idea of having 2 main
interaction mechanics, one for functions with few values where you
view the entire range and what is selected. A second one will take you
to a new menu with a list.
The descriptions for functions should be great as a little reminder,
especially on the current fast dev environment, could possibly be user
configurable too?
I've also been thinking about button remap, where the main menu
sections would be selected with Menu/disp, or/and Jog dial, and all
menu configurations with up/down/left/right/set. This would give more
flexibility and be easier to use than current button config.
I'm currently using the entire display, but could possibly need to be
shortened for permanent values that might need to be displayed, either
for usability or technical reasons.
Let me know if there is interest in my contribution, as much as I love
doing this (as my day job as well) time is indeed precious, and I
wouldn't want to be investing a lot of time in unneeded work.
I'll be waiting to hear from you.
Best regards
inosak
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Alex
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James Donnelly
Carlos
chungdha
same look as the canon menu inside with the small drop down menu for
certain setting so would be able to choose thing pressing up and down
instead having to press the set button to go through the settings
especially find it during interview or events not that great to press
the set button and going to a louder volume. Mainly if I walk close
to the front of a event and also closer to the speaker boxes it would
go way to loud instead of setting it softer each time I get closer.
Is it also possible for multiple save config and choose like config 1
config 2 config 3. Cause sometimes need to go through allot of the
setting to set it all correct. Cause for movie filming I have like
different mic setup and use monitor and all kinds of stuff, while for
events I use less stuff without all the meters and different mic setup
and interview I also have a different mic setup and all.
Shawn Wytch
Email me at too...@gmail.com
Or call me at 316.312.5584 ask for Shawn
Shawn Wytch
Alex
Shawn Wytch
JaKob
- Jakob
Shawn Wytch
Shawn Wytch
and the trash button has a bug when you load up the menu and click it again the canon trash button pops up and the ML menu dont close! anyone know anything about this?
Alex
Shawn Wytch
konarix
The most interesting thing is button remap.
Selecting values with set/disp, which is right now, isn't very
comfortable while filming on RIG.
The main menu sections would be selected with Menu/disp, or/and Jog
dial, and all
menu configurations with up/down/left/right/set - BRILLIANT !!
Please do this first!
Best Regards.
Marcin.
On 10 Lut, 16:14, Shawn Wytch <tool...@gmail.com> wrote:
> i turned it off sorry and took the battery out and its not happening now. i
> dont know what that was about. sorry im just responding via gmail
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> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Alex <broscutama...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Please reply in the correct thread and tell me in which mode does this
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> > > just downloaded magiclantern-2011Feb10.550d.fw109.AudioMon.sleek.alex
> > > and the trash button has a bug when you load up the menu and click it
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> > > the canon trash button pops up and the ML menu dont close! anyone know
> > > anything about this?
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Alex
are working well, but you can switch menus with MENU/DISP and toggle
values with LEFT, SET, RIGHT and Q. Right now, SET is the same as
RIGHT, and LEFT is the same as the old DISP.
Problems:
1) If you are accustomed with the current button scheme, you'll try to
move in the menus with LEFT/RIGHT, which would change current setting.
Then you have to change it back, and remember you should use
MENU/DISP. That's not good.
2) The old button scheme makes it easy to navigate the entire menu
with a single hand, except for DISP button. Workaround: PLAY also
moves through main menu sections (the same as DISP).
Another idea is to leave the old button scheme (arrows just for menu
navigation), and change these keys:
- PLAY: change value backwards
- Q: change value forwards
- SET: enable/disable the setting, or switch between (a few) modes
- MENU and DISP are free (maybe use one of them for auto-tuning the
value, in the expo menu, or navigate between sub-fields for complex
menu items?)
I'm not committing the new button scheme to the repo yet, as I need
some feedback on this. There is a patch attached instead.
You can also find in this build a full-screen clock and an
experimental feature which reduces picture quality in burst mode. The
idea is to be able to set the quality to RAW+JPEG and forget about it.
Which means you can take regular shots at max quality, and burst shots
at fast JPEG quality (except for first two frames, which can be raw
without filling the buffer). It's not yet 100% stable (it crashed once
for me and I had to take the battery out).
This build is just for testing (not recommended for general use). I've
ran it today all day long outside in photo mode and it only crashed
once, but I've found the menu navigation a bit cumbersome with the new
keybindings.
Fernando Freire
1)
Up-Down to go on inner menus
Set to select a menu item and then we go into edition mode: no more navigation between menu items.
2)
Left-Right to select between item values.
Set to change the value.
Q to quit item edit mode and go to menu mode.
Fernando Freire
I mean:
I think the most standard button scheme is:
1)
Up-Down to go on inner menus
This scheme is the same as Canon menus.
We call it "menu navigation mode".
2) "item edition mode"
Set to change the value.
But if we have items with subfields?
Then the item behaves as a submenu, similarly to "menu navigation mode"
Set to enter on "(sub)item edition mode"
Press Q to go out "menu navigation mode". (note two Q presses to go out complex item)
and to set ON-OFF?
once positioned on menu item press SET?:
And we have free up-down (for another speed (step) of changing values?) and disp, etc... to take care of other functions
K.
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