BP boycott is on Facebook
brad herschel
BP stock -8% this am, German markets
Puppet_Sock
[yet more politics intrudes on r.b.]
Sigh. If only your political activism would keep you off the trail
and out of the woods, then *some* good might come of it.
You'd be aware that as your ass dragged itself down yet
another cement sidewalk to carry some poorly phrased sign
into the ignored peripheral vision of some second-assistant-
flunky oil executive, that *somebody* will be enjoying the
wilderness you are not in.
Socks
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick
"brad herschel" <bradhe...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Why would anyone boycott BP?
We're the ones that use the oil.
--
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"If one does as God does enough times, one
will become as God is." -Dr. Hannibal Lector.
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JakTheHammer
"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popey...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "brad herschel" <bradhe...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:9ece2d00-2e80-4b34...@e6g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boycott-BP/119101198107726
>>
>> BP stock -8% this am, German markets
>
>
> Why would anyone boycott BP?
>
> We're the ones that use the oil.
>
> --
> --
> Popeye
> "If one does as God does enough times, one
>
> www.finalprotectivefire.com
> http://picasaweb.google.com/Popeye8762
>
>
Evidently you are stupider than majority of people aren't you Dumbass?
You don't understand the mentality of general public do you Punk? If you don't
you will lose BIG. No wonder why Rocky kicking your butt consistently.
K. Gringioni.
<Popeye8...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "brad herschel" <bradhersc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:9ece2d00-2e80-4b34...@e6g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
>
> >http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boycott-BP/119101198107726
>
> > BP stock -8% this am, German markets
>
> Why would anyone boycott BP?
>
> We're the ones that use the oil.
I wouldn't boycott BP either.
However, the deep sea drilling industry collectively bears
responsibility for what's going on right now. They should've had their
deep hole plugging contingencies developed and in place BEFORE
drilling at that depth.
Environmental morality aside, it's bad business. BP is liable for the
cleanup. It would've been 1000 times cheaper for them to have done the
deep sea well-plugging research and been able to deal with this rather
than pay out the billions they're on the line for. Morons. They got
too comfortable and arrogant.
Rocky
"JakTheHammer" <jakt...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popey...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:YpWdnf2364Bwd57R...@supernews.com...
> >
>
> You don't understand the mentality of general public do you Punk? If you
don't
> you will lose BIG. No wonder why Rocky kicking your butt consistently.
Why do you think I call Doug birdbrain?
Kjunman
is probably headed to single digits before the end of the year
"brad herschel" <bradhe...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Howard Brazee
<kgrin...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>However, the deep sea drilling industry collectively bears
>responsibility for what's going on right now. They should've had their
>deep hole plugging contingencies developed and in place BEFORE
>drilling at that depth.
Coming up with their best policies to avoid such disasters obviously
weren't sufficient. The biggest oil spill in history was caused by
war. Oil rigs such as this would seem to me to be obvious targets
to the enemy. So much so that they should have contingency plans for
the very worst case disasters.
--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."
- James Madison
Howard Brazee
wrote:
>Louisiana would be wise to buy put options in BP--it closed at 43 Friday and
>is probably headed to single digits before the end of the year
It's another case of the "too big to fail" companies making everybody
vulnerable. I read that 6% of UK pensions are invested in BP.
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick
"K. Gringioni." <kgrin...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d79307ba-ec6b-41ed...@z15g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> On May 31, 9:59 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
> <Popeye8...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "brad herschel" <bradhersc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:9ece2d00-2e80-4b34...@e6g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boycott-BP/119101198107726
>>
>> > BP stock -8% this am, German markets
>>
>> Why would anyone boycott BP?
>>
>> We're the ones that use the oil.
>
>
>
> I wouldn't boycott BP either.
>
> However, the deep sea drilling industry collectively bears
> responsibility for what's going on right now. They should've had their
> deep hole plugging contingencies developed and in place BEFORE
> drilling at that depth.
I'd be curious about how many wells there are world wide, deeper than say,
2,500 feet (just an arbitrary number).
Completely from ignorance, I'd say there's thousands.
And this is the first incident of this kind, and magnitude, that I'm aware
of.
The responsibility belongs to BP.
But the blame belongs to us all.
We really have no right to bitch, and, especially Louisiana, with the
billions and billions in oil revenue that they've benefited on over time.
> Environmental morality aside, it's bad business. BP is liable for the
> cleanup. It would've been 1000 times cheaper for them to have done the
> deep sea well-plugging research and been able to deal with this rather
> than pay out the billions they're on the line for. Morons. They got
> too comfortable and arrogant.
It's hindsight, however correct.
But I am kinda curious about why they didn't use a massive explosive
charge to seal the well.
But there again, that's from complete ignorance.
Wolf Leverich
>
> "K. Gringioni." <kgrin...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:d79307ba-ec6b-41ed...@z15g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>> On May 31, 9:59 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
>> <Popeye8...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> "brad herschel" <bradhersc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:9ece2d00-2e80-4b34...@e6g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>> >http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boycott-BP/119101198107726
>>>
>>> > BP stock -8% this am, German markets
>>>
>>> Why would anyone boycott BP?
>>>
>>> We're the ones that use the oil.
>>
>>
>>
>> I wouldn't boycott BP either.
>>
>> However, the deep sea drilling industry collectively bears
>> responsibility for what's going on right now. They should've had their
>> deep hole plugging contingencies developed and in place BEFORE
>> drilling at that depth.
>
> I'd be curious about how many wells there are world wide, deeper than say,
> 2,500 feet (just an arbitrary number).
>
> Completely from ignorance, I'd say there's thousands.
Fewer, and it's mostly fairly recent. It was big whoopee when we
(Shell Oil) started thinking about production in thousand-foot water
back in the 1980s. Serious deepwater stuff is much newer than that;
mostly last decade.
Here's a good summary of activity in the Gulf:
http://www.gomr.mms.gov/homepg/offshore/deepwatr/deeptbl2.html
###
> And this is the first incident of this kind, and magnitude,
> that I'm aware of.
>
> The responsibility belongs to BP.
>
> But the blame belongs to us all.
>
> We really have no right to bitch, and, especially Louisiana, with the
> billions and billions in oil revenue that they've benefited on over time.
Er, actually, everyone outside of BP has a total right to bitch.
It's pretty clear that BP was majorly cutting corners, and shit
happens when you do sloppy work.
The other people who deserve some bitching are BP commercial
partners, the MMS, the USGS, and the Coast Guard. Any one of
those entities could have forcefully objected to how BP was
operating.
The thing nobody is talking about is the regulatory structures
that we need to keep this stuff safe in the future. The core
problem is that the industry's happy to gamble: CEOs make
fortunes by cutting corners, and they only get mildly zapped
when shit happens.
So you need fierce regulators.
But Bush administrations happen, and you wind up with the
regulators doing meth and bedding industry whores instead of
doing their jobs.
So, whaddya do?
I'd like a good free-market solution. Unlimited liability
for the corporations, and they can't pledge more than 10%
of the market cap of their companies against that coverage.
That means they've gotta go to Lloyds or equivalent for
coverage. You can bet your sweet ass that the insuror is
gonna have fierce inspectors watching every bit of the
operation, and those inspectors are gonna shut things down
if they see any corners being cut at all.
###
>> Environmental morality aside, it's bad business. BP is liable for the
>> cleanup. It would've been 1000 times cheaper for them to have done the
>> deep sea well-plugging research and been able to deal with this rather
>> than pay out the billions they're on the line for. Morons. They got
>> too comfortable and arrogant.
>
> It's hindsight, however correct.
>
> But I am kinda curious about why they didn't use a massive explosive
> charge to seal the well.
>
> But there again, that's from complete ignorance.
The problem is worse-case scenarios. Suppose you do a massive
explosion, it collapses the well but leaves a column of rubble
in its place, and the reservoir pressure blows the rubble clear.
Now instead of maybe having a well-defined 10" path to the surface,
you now have a 50 foot void. There is prolly a *lot* of oil in
that reservoir. You could turn a nasty environmental mess into
an unbelievable disaster.
If you keep the current casing system intact, you have a very
high probability of bringing the well under control in another 2-3
months, and a very low risk of creating an even larger discharge.
Cheers, Wolf.
Gunner Asch
<leve...@linkpendium.com> wrote:
>
>But Bush administrations happen, and you wind up with the
>regulators doing meth and bedding industry whores instead of
>doing their jobs.
>
>So, whaddya do?
First thing you do is understand that Obama has been president for well
over a year. And he relaxed regulations on BP and on this drilling rig.
Dont tell me you have unresolved BDS issues, do you?
(Bush Derangement Syndrome)
Gunner
--
"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.
This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost
Bruce Jensen
> On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 04:49:05 +0000 (UTC), "Wolf Leverich"
>
You know, Gunnar, Wolf gave a beautifully thoughtful and nuanced
discussion, including the factual evidence that Bush "oversaw" a
reckless regulatory henhouse run by the foxes, and you take it and
make it a stupid ad hoc personal attack? WTF - do you want a real
discussion or another dumbshit insult contest?
Yeah, Obama *should have* run right in there and cleaned the joint up
as soon as he knew, tightened controls on drilling and operations, and
made a lot better show of it (in the middle of all of the other myriad
Bush messes he had to, and has to, clean up) - but neither he nor
anyone knew that THIS issue would erupt as big as the Afghanistan war
or whether unemployment spikes over 10%. He took on the apparent
biggest issues first, as would any intelligent leader.
It was not Wolf's fault, nor was he in error for placing the blame for
8 years of worthless oversight and entrenched industry infiltration on
Bush. That's part of the real issue, along with actually solving the
problem ASAP, not whether Wolf hates Bush or not. Get a grip and
contribute to the solution for a change, not the problem.
Bruce Jensen
K. Gringioni.
>
>
> >But Bush administrations happen, and you wind up with the
> >regulators doing meth and bedding industry whores instead of
> >doing their jobs.
>
> >So, whaddya do?
>
> First thing you do is understand that Obama has been president for well
> over a year. And he relaxed regulations on BP and on this drilling rig.
>
> Dont tell me you have unresolved BDS issues, do you?
I'd put the government at a minority blame, but if you're gonna blame
them, it goes back through many administrations.
None of them required contingencies/emergency measures for this depth
to be in place BEFORE commencing drilling at that depth.
Personally, I blame the deep sea drilling industry itself. It has
unlimited liability for environmental damage. It's bad business to not
have developed methods/contingencies for events like this.
Gunner Asch
Wrong. The Depression was clearly written on the horizon, and in Fact,
the Obamassiah stated in his campaign slogans that he would being Hope
and Change from the failing economy. Want me to provide a host of cites
and quotes that makes you look like a doofus?
Bush had for the last 2.5 yrs of his presidency..a Democrat majority
that was taking the country down. You know it, I know
it..everyone..even the Leftards know it..though they wont admit it.
BDS still runs deep in their mush filled skulls.
If the Obamassiah was half the statesman he tried to make himself out to
be...he would have been able to put a halt to the coming Depression. But
no...he and his ilk fiddle fucked around, giving large..nay..fucking
HUGE amounts of money to the very companies responsible for pushing the
nation off the cliff. And was that money used to halt the impending
crumble? Hardly. Snicker...not in the fucking slightest bit..and in
fact..it contributed even farther to the problem.....pushing it over the
cliff.
>
>It was not Wolf's fault, nor was he in error for placing the blame for
>8 years of worthless oversight and entrenched industry infiltration on
>Bush. That's part of the real issue, along with actually solving the
>problem ASAP, not whether Wolf hates Bush or not. Get a grip and
>contribute to the solution for a change, not the problem.
>
>Bruce Jensen
Contribute to fixing the Great Depression Part Deux? How can I? Half
of my customers are out of business. I had to close my office, close my
apartment and move back home. All because Leftwingers finally got
control of the Presidency and Congress. And a right fucked up mess
they have given us, eh wot?
The coming election will be an interesting one. The People are finally
waking up..and they are not a bunch of happy campers. In fact..its my
belief that in about 2 yrs..the People will rise up and simply murder
the Leftwingers that have been trying for 60 yrs to destroy America..and
have just about done so. The nation is swireling around the drain..and
its going to go in..and down.
Speaking of regulatory madness...your buddy..the Obamassiah relaxed
regulations on BP and on the deep off shore drilling..just days before
this cluster fuck happened. While there is no visible indication the
Left committed sabotage....the timing is indeed fascinating.
As was the hands off for over 30 days of the Obama administration.
Giving BP more rope probably..to use for the lefts particular agenda.
Notice the ban on off shore drilling was suddenly presented, in its
glory..already researched, documented and presented in depth.
Odd that they had that sitting on the shelf, eh wot?
As for the person I chidded...he can piss off. His buffoonery was made
fun of by me. Dont like it? Take a number. You are at the far end of the
very long line of people Ive taken to task.
Shall not be infringed
> On May 31, 9:59 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
>
> <Popeye8...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > "brad herschel" <bradhersc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:9ece2d00-2e80-4b34...@e6g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
>
> > >http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boycott-BP/119101198107726
>
> > > BP stock -8% this am, German markets
>
> > Why would anyone boycott BP?
>
> > We're the ones that use the oil.
>
> I wouldn't boycott BP either.
>
> However, the deep sea drilling industry collectively bears
> responsibility for what's going on right now. They should've had their
> deep hole plugging contingencies developed and in place BEFORE
> drilling at that depth.
That would have been addressed in the Environmental Assessment that
0bama waived.
> Environmental morality aside, it's bad business. BP is liable for the
> cleanup. It would've been 1000 times cheaper for them to have done the
> deep sea well-plugging research and been able to deal with this rather
> than pay out the billions they're on the line for. Morons. They got
> too comfortable and arrogant.
I wonder how much BP had to put in 0bama's reelection campaign to get
that EA waiver?
Shall not be infringed
> On Mon, 31 May 2010 13:58:00 -0700 (PDT), "K. Gringioni."
>
> >However, the deep sea drilling industry collectively bears
> >responsibility for what's going on right now. They should've had their
> >deep hole plugging contingencies developed and in place BEFORE
> >drilling at that depth.
>
> Coming up with their best policies to avoid such disasters obviously
> weren't sufficient. The biggest oil spill in history was caused by
> war.
Was caused by Saddam Hussein.
Gunner McGoogle
>
> As for the person I chidded...he can piss off. His buffoonery was made
> fun of by me. Dont like it? Take a number. You are at the far end of the
> very long line of people Ive taken to task.
When you talk about people you've taken to task, are you talking about
the time you said your "homestead" had mines
and dogs and then pictures were posted showing it was a run down,
shitty shack that was smack dab in the middle of some run-down desert
town? Afterward you ran off for awhile to lick your wounds because you
got outed as a fraud.
Gunner Asch
Mines? You can actually see mines? So what sort of special glasses are
you using? X-ray or those fascinating ones one used to be able to buy
from ads in Popular Mechanics that showed the naked lady inside her
clothing?
As for a run down shitty shack...chuckle..your buffoonery is noted. As
is the fact my place is fully paid for and is quite comfortable. 1550
square feet of comfort and security. And that doesnt include the
machine shop, the welding shop, the gunsmithing/reloading shop or the
electronics "shop"
<VBG>
So tell me..how many more years to you have left on your mortgage, or
are you still renting that crapy little apartment in that shithole you
call home?
laugh laugh laugh!
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick
"Bruce Jensen" <bpnj...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8d74745d-5e04-4ca0...@g1g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
> You know, Gunnar, Wolf gave a beautifully thoughtful and nuanced
> discussion, including the factual evidence that Bush "oversaw" a
> reckless regulatory henhouse
Blah, blah, blah.
The minute anyone tries to blame one administration over another, you
completely lose credibility with anyone capable of rational thought.
It's pointless, partisan, preposterous and off topic.
Seek help.
"I can see November from my house".
Wolf Leverich
> On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 04:49:05 +0000 (UTC), "Wolf Leverich"
><leve...@linkpendium.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>But Bush administrations happen, and you wind up with the
>>regulators doing meth and bedding industry whores instead of
>>doing their jobs.
>>
>>So, whaddya do?
>
> First thing you do is understand that Obama has been president for well
> over a year. And he relaxed regulations on BP and on this drilling rig.
>
> Dont tell me you have unresolved BDS issues, do you?
>
> (Bush Derangement Syndrome)
>
> Gunner
No, I have no issues at all. It's a matter of public record
that MMS was a mess under Bush.
Read the newspapers.
Now for the terribly clueless, here's a bit of information
about how drilling and how government works.
Making deepwater hole, from the first plans to regulatory
approval to first production, is a long-ass process. I
personally did the first PERT model of the process at Shell
some years ago.
"Long-ass" means "years".
Note that in the case of the Macondo prospect, where all kinds
of corners were cut, MMS approvals of the exploration plan
happened back in March 2009.
OK, now some notes on how government works.
The whole universe does not change when a new President is sworn
in. The whole dead-ender structure of the previous President
remains in place until it's rooted out by the new President's
appointees.
The Senate Republicans, characteristically, have been trying to
preserve the Bush bureaucracy by delaying the appointment of Obama's
people as long as they can. The first MMS appointee didn't pick up
the reins until June 2009, months after the Macondo exploration plan
was approved.
So ...
Don't give me any shit about Obama. This turkey is more Bush legacy.
If something like this happens after 3-4 years in, *then* you're
looking at something that legitimately happened on Obama's watch.
BTW, good to see you back, Gunner. How's sponging off my tax
money working out for you? Socialism's great stuff, eh?
Love, Wolf.
Bruce Jensen
>
> - Show quoted text -
You are just making this up as you go along. Opinion after uninformed
opinion with practically nothing but bluster to back it up.
Bruce
Gunner Asch
Its not surprising that someone as far out of orbit as you, can post
that with a straight face.
Gunner Asch
<leve...@linkpendium.com> wrote:
You mean after Obama became President then.
>
>OK, now some notes on how government works.
>
>The whole universe does not change when a new President is sworn
>in. The whole dead-ender structure of the previous President
>remains in place until it's rooted out by the new President's
>appointees.
>
>The Senate Republicans, characteristically, have been trying to
>preserve the Bush bureaucracy by delaying the appointment of Obama's
>people as long as they can. The first MMS appointee didn't pick up
>the reins until June 2009, months after the Macondo exploration plan
>was approved.
>
>So ...
And when did the rig blow out? <G>
>
>Don't give me any shit about Obama. This turkey is more Bush legacy.
>If something like this happens after 3-4 years in, *then* you're
>looking at something that legitimately happened on Obama's watch.
>
>BTW, good to see you back, Gunner. How's sponging off my tax
>money working out for you? Socialism's great stuff, eh?
>
>Love, Wolf.
Oh fuck yes. I LOVE spending your money! In fact...I really didnt
need that pesky bypass, so I and the doctors and the hospital all got
together and Stole it from you. And we used your own Law to do it.
Im thinking about a serious injury next, so we can steal even more money
from you. Anythng you would suggest?
Bruce Jensen
> >You are just making this up as you go along. Opinion after uninformed
> >opinion with practically nothing but bluster to back it up.
>
> >Bruce
>
> Its not surprising that someone as far out of orbit as you, can post
> that with a straight face.
>
> Gunner
God almighty, is there no end to the ignorant authoritarian right-wing
tards out there?
When you start offering some specifics to back up your broadbrush gut
reaction statements, you'll have some cred. Unitl then, buzz off,
skeeter.
Bruce Jensen
> On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 17:00:30 +0000 (UTC), "Wolf Leverich"
>
>
>
>
>
We'd be happy to see you give that bypass back, you unhealthy slob.
JakTheHammer
"K. Gringioni." <kgrin...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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<Popeye8...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "brad herschel" <bradhersc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:9ece2d00-2e80-4b34...@e6g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
>
> >http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boycott-BP/119101198107726
>
> > BP stock -8% this am, German markets
>
> Why would anyone boycott BP?
>
> We're the ones that use the oil.
> I wouldn't boycott BP either.
Next time don't you complaint about seafood going up in price,
and don't complaint paying too much taxes. They are interlinked in social
system of America. One person did wrong, next person pay the price. Go lick
BP asses.
Gunner McGoogle
> On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 05:46:20 -0700 (PDT), Gunner McGoogle
>
> >On Jun 1, 4:24 am, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> As for the person I chidded...he can piss off. His buffoonery was made
> >> fun of by me. Dont like it? Take a number. You are at the far end of the
> >> very long line of people Ive taken to task.
>
> >When you talk about people you've taken to task, are you talking about
> >the time you said your "homestead" had mines
> >and dogs and then pictures were posted showing it was a run down,
> >shitty shack that was smack dab in the middle of some run-down desert
> >town? Afterward you ran off for awhile to lick your wounds because you
> >got outed as a fraud.
>
> Mines? You can actually see mines? So what sort of special glasses are
> you using? X-ray or those fascinating ones one used to be able to buy
> from ads in Popular Mechanics that showed the naked lady inside her
> clothing?
"Mines" as in Gunner shooting off his mouth about his shack...
""Come on over sometime. When approaching the homestead, walk easy
with your hands held out to your side, stay on the pathway (mines)
and if
you move fast, a bullet will beat the dogs before anyone figured out
you were simply being stupid."
Did you mean piles of dogshit?
>
> As for a run down shitty shack...chuckle..your buffoonery is noted. As
> is the fact my place is fully paid for and is quite comfortable. 1550
> square feet of comfort and security. And that doesnt include the
> machine shop, the welding shop, the gunsmithing/reloading shop or the
> electronics "shop"
>
> <VBG>
>
> So tell me..how many more years to you have left on your mortgage, or
> are you still renting that crapy little apartment in that shithole you
> call home?
>
> laugh laugh laugh!
No buffoonery, your house is a shithole, inside and outside. A machine
shop with a dirt floor that floods! The rest of your "shops" are
nothing more than places surrounded by tarps and shelves where you
store your junk.
You're a blow hard who lives in a run down house in a run down town
and collects junk. You also had to rely on the very government you
hate to pay for your surgery.
Gunner Asch
<michaelv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Jun 1, 9:22�am, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 05:46:20 -0700 (PDT), Gunner McGoogle
>>
>> <michaelvander...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Jun 1, 4:24�am, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> As for the person I chidded...he can piss off. �His buffoonery was made
>> >> fun of by me. Dont like it? Take a number. You are at the far end of the
>> >> very long line of people Ive taken to task.
>>
>> >When you talk about people you've taken to task, are you talking about
>> >the time you said your "homestead" had mines
>> >and dogs and then pictures were posted showing it was a run down,
>> >shitty shack that was smack dab in the middle of some run-down desert
>> >town? Afterward you ran off for awhile to lick your wounds because you
>> >got outed as a fraud.
>>
>> Mines? �You can actually see mines? �So what sort of special glasses are
>> you using? �X-ray or those fascinating ones one used to be able to buy
>> from ads in Popular Mechanics that showed the naked lady inside her
>> clothing?
>
>"Mines" as in Gunner shooting off his mouth about his shack...
Shack? Which shack might that be? Got pictures? Lets see them.
>
>""Come on over sometime. When approaching the homestead, walk easy
>with your hands held out to your side, stay on the pathway (mines)
>and if
>you move fast, a bullet will beat the dogs before anyone figured out
>you were simply being stupid."
>
<VBG>...and that is manditory, particularly for Leftards.
>Did you mean piles of dogshit?
What do you mean? Do you normally step in dogshit?
Then perhaps you should stay away. Lots of strays in the area, and if
you dont pay attention to where you walk..you may be up to your ankles
in leftwing brains...er..dog shit.
>
>
>>
>> As for a run down shitty shack...chuckle..your buffoonery is noted. �As
>> is the fact my place is fully paid for and is quite comfortable. 1550
>> square feet of comfort and security. �And that doesnt include the
>> machine shop, the welding shop, the gunsmithing/reloading shop or the
>> electronics "shop"
>>
>> <VBG>
>>
>> So tell me..how many more years to you have left on your mortgage, or
>> are you still renting that crapy little apartment in that shithole you
>> call home?
>>
>> laugh laugh laugh!
>
>No buffoonery, your house is a shithole, inside and outside. A machine
>shop with a dirt floor that floods! The rest of your "shops" are
>nothing more than places surrounded by tarps and shelves where you
>store your junk.
Been inside my home? Best be careful the next time you sneak in. We
tend to shoot burglars around here. Which is why we have so few of them.
>
>You're a blow hard who lives in a run down house in a run down town
>and collects junk. You also had to rely on the very government you
>hate to pay for your surgery.
<VBG>. Its obvious that you dont have much of an eye for machinery. But
then...the only sort of machinery Leftwingers are comfortable with are
anal vibrators.
<VBG>
So lets see some current pictures of my place and we can sort through
the "junk" from the stuff you dont have a clue about.
Now I have to go, Ive got a guy coming over to pay me $2500 for a piece
of junk. <VBG>
Gunner McGoogle
> On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 12:42:18 -0700 (PDT), Gunner McGoogle
>
>
>
>
>
Maybe you can pay your medical bills then instead of sucking off the
state of California.
Howard Brazee
<hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Coming up with their best policies to avoid such disasters obviously
>> weren't sufficient. �The biggest oil spill in history was caused by
>> war. � �
>
>Was caused by Saddam Hussein.
That's correct. Just because he's dead doesn't mean that nobody is
going to attack our vulnerable targets.
wmbjk...@citlink.net
wrote:
>Im thinking about a serious injury next, so we can steal even more money
>from you. Anythng you would suggest?
Sure. Stick your fingers and tongue in a meat grinder. Then you can
live *all* of your time inside your own head. At least, until CA goes
broke trying to keep all you self-destructive useless eaters alive.
Wayne
Gunner Asch
My medical bills? What medical bills? I filed Bankruptcy a couple
months ago. Phoof! All gone!
Isnt following the Law a Wonderful thing?
Or do you think that I, unlike millions of Leftwing welfare drones,
shouldnt follow the law?
Ill be waiting for a response on THAT question, with bated breath.
Btw...how many anal vibrators do you currently own? And how many are
still working?
Just a question that came to me while reading your followup. Shrug.
Gunner McGoogle
> On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 14:08:10 -0700 (PDT), Gunner McGoogle
>
>
>
>
>
Self-sufficient Gunner is dependent on the governement for his
survival!
Gunner Asch
How do you figure that?
Im not on welfare, Im not getting food stamps. Im actually not getting
any thing from the government. And they didnt even pay a cent for my
medical care, since I filed bankruptcy
Now please answer the questions posed.
Or do you simply wish to blither and thump your pigeon chest in rather
pathetic mode?
<VBG>
Im still waiting for answers to my questions.
Gunner McGoogle
> On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 18:44:21 -0700 (PDT), Gunner McGoogle
>
>
>
>
>
That's not what you claimed before...
"Im a registered Democrat and Liberal. I did that a couple months
ago.
So my Party will take care of me, just like it takes care of the 7
million Illegals here in California. Now since Ive been a tax payer
in
California since 1977....and had to give up my medical insurance 3
months before my emergency surgery...I figure that Im getting a
little
of my contributions back, rather than paying for the same sized bills
for Illegal Aliens as Ive been doing since 1977."
Why can't you keep your story straight?
Curly Surmudgeon
<michaelv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >When you talk about people you've taken to task, are you talking about
>> >the time you said your "homestead" had mines and dogs and then
>> >pictures were posted showing it was a run down, shitty shack that was
>> >smack dab in the middle of some run-down desert town? Afterward you
>> >ran off for awhile to lick your wounds because you got outed as a
>> >fraud.
>>
>> Mines? You can actually see mines? So what sort of special glasses
>> are you using? X-ray or those fascinating ones one used to be able to
>> buy from ads in Popular Mechanics that showed the naked lady inside her
>> clothing?
>
> "Mines" as in Gunner shooting off his mouth about his shack...
>
> ""Come on over sometime. When approaching the homestead, walk easy with
> your hands held out to your side, stay on the pathway (mines) and if
> you move fast, a bullet will beat the dogs before anyone figured out you
> were simply being stupid."
>
> Did you mean piles of dogshit?
Whooo! That's rich. I missed that post by Gummer, probably had him Bozo
Filtered at the time. Thanks for the laugh!
--
Regards, Curly
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lest we forget: Ken Lay
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Curly Surmudgeon
<michaelv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> My medical bills? What medical bills? I filed Bankruptcy a couple
>> months ago. Phoof! All gone!
I distinctly remember Gummer ranting and raving about the scumbags who
fail to honor their debts through bankruptcy saying the rewrite a few
years ago that gives credit card companies an exclusion as bankruptcy
debt holder didn't go far enough.
At that time he was saying that people who file bankruptcy should be
hung...
Gunner Asch
And the discrepancy is where again? Please point it out to all the
readers.
>
>
>Why can't you keep your story straight?
Because my life keeps going on, while you are stuck on stupid?
So when are you going to answer the questions I asked you?
Wolf Leverich
>>Self-sufficient Gunner is dependent on the governement for his
>>survival!
>
> How do you figure that?
>
> Im not on welfare, Im not getting food stamps. Im actually not getting
> any thing from the government. And they didnt even pay a cent for my
> medical care, since I filed bankruptcy
Are you really as stupid as you sound?
Bankruptcy doesn't magically make costs go away;
it just changes who gets stuck paying the bill.
When you duck out on hospital bills, then the rest
of us wind up *forced* to cover those costs through
higher taxes for Medicare/Medicaid and higher costs
for our private insurance.
Socialist leech. Sheesh.
Why is it that just about every right-winger I know
is leeching off society in a way that would have done
a 1960s welfare queen proud?
Being an actual conservative, my take is that if you
can't pay for your healthcare, you prolly ought to die
in the gutter. You're obviously not worth the cost of
keeping alive.
Love, Wolf.
Dan
> On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 04:49:05 +0000 (UTC), "Wolf Leverich"
> <leve...@linkpendium.com> wrote:
>
>> But Bush administrations happen, and you wind up with the
>> regulators doing meth and bedding industry whores instead of
>> doing their jobs.
>>
>> So, whaddya do?
>
> First thing you do is understand that Obama has been president for well
> over a year.
True. Thee is still a lot to clean up after the last party Resident.
> And he relaxed regulations on BP
He did? You have a cite for that claim. Might be true, but this is the
first that I have heard of it.
> and on this drilling rig.
Well then, I'm sure you can provide a cite.
He ahd done a lot wrong, so far. Virtually EVERY case is where he
followed Republican precedent. In that, he is very much like Clinton.
Democrats are far too trusting of the Party of Evil...
Dan
Dan
> On May 31, 10:21 pm, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 04:49:05 +0000 (UTC), "Wolf Leverich"
>>
>>
>>> But Bush administrations happen, and you wind up with the
>>> regulators doing meth and bedding industry whores instead of
>>> doing their jobs.
>>> So, whaddya do?
>> First thing you do is understand that Obama has been president for well
>>
>> Dont tell me you have unresolved BDS issues, do you?
>
>
>
>
> them, it goes back through many administrations.
>
> None of them required contingencies/emergency measures for this depth
> to be in place BEFORE commencing drilling at that depth.
>
> Personally, I blame the deep sea drilling industry itself. It has
> unlimited liability for environmental damage. It's bad business to not
> have developed methods/contingencies for events like this.
The WHOLE point of Capitalism is to externalize costs: make other people
pay you for your profits. Most of the people who pay Capitalists get no
benefit from their wares, yet they pay a huge part of their profits...
But, you know, Government is evil.
Whatever.
Dan
Gunner McGoogle
> On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 18:44:21 -0700, Gunner McGoogle
>
> >> My medical bills? What medical bills? I filed Bankruptcy a couple
> >> months ago. Phoof! All gone!
>
> I distinctly remember Gummer ranting and raving about the scumbags who
> fail to honor their debts through bankruptcy saying the rewrite a few
> years ago that gives credit card companies an exclusion as bankruptcy
> debt holder didn't go far enough.
>
> At that time he was saying that people who file bankruptcy should be
> hung...
Maybe he'll pull a David Carradine then, if he can clean all the junk
out of the closet.
Gunner Asch
<leve...@linkpendium.com> wrote:
>On 2010-06-02, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>Self-sufficient Gunner is dependent on the governement for his
>>>survival!
>>
>> How do you figure that?
>>
>> Im not on welfare, Im not getting food stamps. Im actually not getting
>> any thing from the government. And they didnt even pay a cent for my
>> medical care, since I filed bankruptcy
>
>
>Are you really as stupid as you sound?
>
>Bankruptcy doesn't magically make costs go away;
>it just changes who gets stuck paying the bill.
So you are saying its not legal?
>
>When you duck out on hospital bills, then the rest
>of us wind up *forced* to cover those costs through
>higher taxes for Medicare/Medicaid and higher costs
>for our private insurance.
Oh..then Im just like the 20-30 million wetbacks in this country that
the Left wants to remain here?
>
>Socialist leech. Sheesh.
Really? What was your dates of military service?
>
>Why is it that just about every right-winger I know
>is leeching off society in a way that would have done
>a 1960s welfare queen proud?
Because you are mentally ill?
>
>Being an actual conservative, my take is that if you
>can't pay for your healthcare, you prolly ought to die
>in the gutter. You're obviously not worth the cost of
>keeping alive.
>
>Love, Wolf.
Tough shit Puppy. Deal with it, or slit your wrists. Doesnt bother me
either way.
Gunner Asch
Maybe either of you two asshats can provide a cite to that claim?
<VBG>
Ill be waiting for either of you two cocksuckers to provide one.
Anytime.