Massive accident, explosion kill several in Howard County, Maryland
ParrotRob
tractor-trailer traveling southbound on I-895 (the "old" harbor tunnel
thruway in Baltimore) reached the end of 895 and was about to merge onto
I-95 south just south of the Baltimore/Howard county line. The ramp from
895 south to 95 south is a flyover and had only a jersey wall barrier on the
sides. The tractor-trailer lost control and crashed through the barrier and
landed directly on the northbound lanes of I-95 below, smashing two cars.
As if that weren't enough, along comes a tanker truck carrying some sort of
petroleum (no one seems to know what yet, although propane is suspected) and
plowed into the fallen trailer and incinerated the whole mess. The fireball
was visible 5 or more miles away, they say. That stretch of I-95 is closed
in both directions for god only knows how long.
http://www.sunspot.net/news/traffic/bal-tankernew0113,0,1440669.story?coll=bal-home-headlines
Steve
Wow, that's terrible. They say at least two people were killed, but
they say everyone involved was, so that's at least four, plus any
passengers. Tragic.
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ParrotRob
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By the way, if you're headed in that direction, the detour off of I-95
northbound is onto Md-100 (exit 43 - Glen Burnie / Ellicott City) which will
take you to Md-295, US-1 or US-29, and if you're headed southbound you'll
have to get off at I-195 (exit 47 - Catonsville / BWI Airport) which will
take you to US-1 or Md-295.
ParrotRob
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There are two CONFIRMED fatalities, yeah. Unfortunately, all of the
vehicles involved were incinerated to the point where they can't even tell
WHAT they WERE, much less what or who was in them. Some guy they
interviewed on the local news here (a DC station) from one of the local fire
departments said they probably won't know the owners or drivers of the
trucks involved until they fail to arrive at their destinations and are
reported missing.
Scott M. Kozel
"A tanker truck carrying a flammable liquid plunged off an overpass and
landed on I-95 south of Baltimore today, sparking a huge fire that left
at least four people dead and closed the busy highway in both
directions, Maryland authorities said. State officials said the
accident involved two trucks -- the tanker truck and a tractor-trailer
-- and two cars. The said the tanker truck went off the overpass and was
either struck by the other truck or landed on top of it."
"The drivers of all four vehicles were killed, authorities said.
Investigators were trying to determine if other persons were in any of
the vehicles. No one was transported to hospital from the scene for
treatment. The accident, which occurred shortly before 3 p.m. about six
miles south of Baltimore, caused a huge fire that incinerated the tanker
and the other vehicles, including the tractor trailer, and spread into
the woods off the highway."
"Investigators from the Maryland Department of the Environment were also
checking to see whether any hazardous substance leaked into nearby
streams. They said that judging by the size of the fire and the
condition of the tanker truck, they believe that most of the flammable
liquid burned. It was not immediately know how much flammable liquid
the tanker contained or exactly what the liquid was. One official said
it was "probably a petroleum product"."
"Marc Bashoor, a spokesman for the Prince George's County fire
department, said it could be hours before the highway is reopened. Some
officials said the northbound lanes may not be reopened until tomorrow."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13456-2004Jan13.html
"Four Killed in Fiery I-95 Crash"
_Washington Post_ - Tuesday, January 13, 2004; 6:24 PM
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ParrotRob
half an hour or so. The story DID have a trailer falling into the path of a
tanker and two confirmed dead - now it's a tanker falling into the path of a
trailer and four confirmed dead. Either way, the results are catastrophic.
"Scott M. Kozel" <koz...@attbi.com> wrote in message
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John Cereghin
ago. The damage to the roadbed was so extensive that I-95 was closed
for about 2 months. Made travelling through that area a headache.
I-95 at the crash scene is a very busy stretch of highway. The
alternates will also clog very rapidly during rush hour. It will be a
terrible mess for weeks if not months.
Scott M. Kozel
Let's not overreact. The newspaper article said that the I-95 mainline
would open within about a day. The I-895 SB ramp bridge will be
inspected to see how much damage there is, and I-695 to I-95 can be
utilized in lieu of that I-895 bridge.
The Baltimore-Washington Parkway provides a 4-lane freeway alternate to
I-95 between the Capital Beltway and Baltimore. The large trucks can
utilize US-29 to the west of I-95, and US-50/MD-3/I-97 to the east of
I-95.
Polkajig
From reading the article, 4 people were killed. It is so sad. Last week about
6 people died on I-80 in central PA, now another 4 dead on I-95 near Baltimore,
MD. It is fun to be on the roads, but it can be dangerous and deadly like
these two recent accidents. May we pray that we will not get into a serious
and possible deadly accident and that the families of those who have died will
be ok. Amen.
Greg Pniewski
Bernardsville, NJ
ParrotRob
> tractor-trailer traveling southbound on I-895 (the "old" harbor tunnel
> thruway in Baltimore) reached the end of 895 and was about to merge onto
> I-95 south just south of the Baltimore/Howard county line. The ramp from
> 895 south to 95 south is a flyover and had only a jersey wall barrier on
the
> sides. The tractor-trailer lost control and crashed through the barrier
and
> landed directly on the northbound lanes of I-95 below, smashing two cars.
>
"Traffic was diverted onto U.S. Highway 29 and Maryland Highway 100, said
Lora Rakowski, a State Highway Administration spokeswoman. Motorists were
also encouraged to use U.S. Highway 1 and Interstate 295, she said."
"Interstate 295", eh? Uh, sure, Ms. State Highway Administration
Spokeswoman.
Jeff Kitsko
news:Cl3Nb.623$iD6.2...@news1.news.adelphia.net...
>
> "Traffic was diverted onto U.S. Highway 29 and Maryland Highway 100, said
> Lora Rakowski, a State Highway Administration spokeswoman. Motorists were
> also encouraged to use U.S. Highway 1 and Interstate 295, she said."
>
> "Interstate 295", eh? Uh, sure, Ms. State Highway Administration
> Spokeswoman.
MD 295/Baltimore-Washington Parkway is like NYC parkways in that it bans
trucks, correct?
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John R Cambron
"Scott M. Kozel" wrote:
>
> pilgr...@dol.net (John Cereghin) wrote:
> >
> > Reminds me of a similar accident on I-95 in Chester PA a few years
> > ago. The damage to the roadbed was so extensive that I-95 was closed
> > for about 2 months. Made travelling through that area a headache.
> >
> > I-95 at the crash scene is a very busy stretch of highway. The
> > alternates will also clog very rapidly during rush hour. It will be a
> > terrible mess for weeks if not months.
>
> Let's not overreact. The newspaper article said that the I-95 mainline
> would open within about a day. The I-895 SB ramp bridge will be
> inspected to see how much damage there is, and I-695 to I-95 can be
> utilized in lieu of that I-895 bridge.
>
> The Baltimore-Washington Parkway provides a 4-lane freeway alternate to
> I-95 between the Capital Beltway and Baltimore. The large trucks can
> utilize US-29 to the west of I-95, and US-50/MD-3/I-97 to the east of
> I-95.
Two lanes of southbound MD I-95 were reopened sometime after 1900.
I drove past the site at around 1945. The bridge carrying
southbound MD I-695 over MD I-95 had a little evidence of fire.
The paint on the steel was not burned off, Suet stains were
clearly evident on the steel of the span over the northbound
lanes. MD SHA had trucks lineup along the left shoulder of the
southbound lanes to block the view of the wreckage. Foam was
still present on the right shoulder. All lanes of the southbound
roadway were treated with salt from just south of the south end
of the bridge over the Patapsco River to the just north of the
MD I-695 southbound bridge.
I was listening to WBAL AM 1090 around 1600 as I was traveling to
Baltimore from the Maryland Eastern Shore. Four callers called the
Ron Smith Show that were in the area of the wreck with their
description of what they saw.
One truck driver that stop his truck back near the gore at the
MD I-895 northbound exit seconds after the explosion and said that
the truck that struck the truck that fell from MD I-895 was a
propane truck. He said he knew it was propane truck because the
propane truck passed him back around the MD-100 interchange. He
spoke to Giant Food truck driver that said the truck that fell
from MD I-895 was pulling a Strick Lease trailer.
Another fellow traveling south in a pickup was abreast of the on
ramp merge lane from MD I-895 when the explosion happened and he
said he felt the heat from the fire after he saw the explosion
and fire across all eight lanes of MD I-95 in his mirrors.
From all of the bit and pieces from radio reports and the callers
it sounds like the the Strick Lease truck coming south on
MD I-695 landed on top of two passenger cars and was then struck
by the northbound propane truck.
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ParrotRob
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> "ParrotRob" <Parr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Cl3Nb.623$iD6.2...@news1.news.adelphia.net...
> >
> > "Traffic was diverted onto U.S. Highway 29 and Maryland Highway 100,
said
> > Lora Rakowski, a State Highway Administration spokeswoman. Motorists
were
> > also encouraged to use U.S. Highway 1 and Interstate 295, she said."
> >
> > "Interstate 295", eh? Uh, sure, Ms. State Highway Administration
> > Spokeswoman.
>
> MD 295/Baltimore-Washington Parkway is like NYC parkways in that it bans
> trucks, correct?
Right. It's part of the National Park System, also. Managed by the
National Park Service and policed by the US Park Police. It's a very
unusual road in it's appearance, too - check out the barriers on the sides
and the architecture of most of the bridges.
ParrotRob
news:1009kih...@corp.supernews.com...
>
> One truck driver that stop his truck back near the gore at the
> MD I-895 northbound exit seconds after the explosion and said that
> the truck that struck the truck that fell from MD I-895 was a
> propane truck. He said he knew it was propane truck because the
> propane truck passed him back around the MD-100 interchange. He
> spoke to Giant Food truck driver that said the truck that fell
> from MD I-895 was pulling a Strick Lease trailer.
>
> Another fellow traveling south in a pickup was abreast of the on
> ramp merge lane from MD I-895 when the explosion happened and he
> said he felt the heat from the fire after he saw the explosion
> and fire across all eight lanes of MD I-95 in his mirrors.
>
> From all of the bit and pieces from radio reports and the callers
> it sounds like the the Strick Lease truck coming south on
> MD I-695
I-895. that is ;-) If it were the interchange of 95 and 695 the situation
would be even worse, probably.
> landed on top of two passenger cars and was then struck
> by the northbound propane truck.
>
Yeah, I'm still not sure they know for certain what happened. The
"official" story now in the papers and on the local news channels has the
propane truck falling from the 895 ramp onto 95. I'm sure it will change a
half dozen times before I get up in the morning though.
John R Cambron
Jeff Kitsko wrote:
>
> "ParrotRob" <Parr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Cl3Nb.623$iD6.2...@news1.news.adelphia.net...
> >
> > "Traffic was diverted onto U.S. Highway 29 and Maryland Highway 100, said
> > Lora Rakowski, a State Highway Administration spokeswoman. Motorists were
> > also encouraged to use U.S. Highway 1 and Interstate 295, she said."
> >
> > "Interstate 295", eh? Uh, sure, Ms. State Highway Administration
> > Spokeswoman.
>
> MD 295/Baltimore-Washington Parkway is like NYC parkways in that it bans
> trucks, correct?
Not on MD-295. The road south of MD-175 is technically not MD-295
but is the Baltimore Washington Parkway and is maintained by the
National Park Service. The Park Service maintained part of the
this road has a no truck restriction, The Maryland SHA maintained
part of the Baltimore Washington Parkway has no restrictions.
Scott M. Kozel
>
> Two lanes of southbound MD I-95 were reopened sometime after 1900.
> I drove past the site at around 1945. The bridge carrying
> southbound MD I-695 over MD I-95 had a little evidence of fire.
> The paint on the steel was not burned off, Suet stains were
> clearly evident on the steel of the span over the northbound
> lanes. MD SHA had trucks lineup along the left shoulder of the
> southbound lanes to block the view of the wreckage. Foam was
> still present on the right shoulder. All lanes of the southbound
> roadway were treated with salt from just south of the south end
> of the bridge over the Patapsco River to the just north of the
> MD I-695 southbound bridge.
A _Baltimore Sun_ article at about 11:30 PM Tuesday cited MDOT as saying
that the damage to the I-895 bridge is not major, and that it should
open Wednesday.
I would expect all 8 lanes of I-95 to be open by Wednesday evening,
based on what I'm reading. No bridge was damaged on mainline I-95.
ParrotRob
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>
>
> Jeff Kitsko wrote:
> >
> > "ParrotRob" <Parr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:Cl3Nb.623$iD6.2...@news1.news.adelphia.net...
> > >
> > > "Traffic was diverted onto U.S. Highway 29 and Maryland Highway 100,
said
> > > Lora Rakowski, a State Highway Administration spokeswoman. Motorists
were
> > > also encouraged to use U.S. Highway 1 and Interstate 295, she said."
> > >
> > > "Interstate 295", eh? Uh, sure, Ms. State Highway Administration
> > > Spokeswoman.
> >
> > MD 295/Baltimore-Washington Parkway is like NYC parkways in that it bans
> > trucks, correct?
>
> Not on MD-295. The road south of MD-175 is technically not MD-295
> but is the Baltimore Washington Parkway and is maintained by the
> National Park Service. The Park Service maintained part of the
> this road has a no truck restriction, The Maryland SHA maintained
> part of the Baltimore Washington Parkway has no restrictions.
I don't think so, John. The "no truck" restriction doesn't end where the
Park Service maintenance does. I'm not sure about the stretch of Md-295
INSIDE the Baltimore beltway, but I'm pretty darn sure no trucks are allowed
SOUTH of I-695, even north of the Md-175 exit.
John R Cambron
ParrotRob wrote:
>
> "John R Cambron" <*camb...@chesapeake.net*> wrote in message
> news:1009kih...@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > One truck driver that stop his truck back near the gore at the
> > MD I-895 northbound exit seconds after the explosion and said that
> > the truck that struck the truck that fell from MD I-895 was a
> > propane truck. He said he knew it was propane truck because the
> > propane truck passed him back around the MD-100 interchange. He
> > spoke to Giant Food truck driver that said the truck that fell
> > from MD I-895 was pulling a Strick Lease trailer.
> >
> > Another fellow traveling south in a pickup was abreast of the on
> > ramp merge lane from MD I-895 when the explosion happened and he
> > said he felt the heat from the fire after he saw the explosion
> > and fire across all eight lanes of MD I-95 in his mirrors.
> >
> > From all of the bit and pieces from radio reports and the callers
> > it sounds like the the Strick Lease truck coming south on
> > MD I-695
>
> I-895. that is ;-) If it were the interchange of 95 and 695 the situation
> would be even worse, probably.
Typo on my part. You are correct MD I-895.
> > landed on top of two passenger cars and was then struck
> > by the northbound propane truck.
> >
>
> Yeah, I'm still not sure they know for certain what happened. The
> "official" story now in the papers and on the local news channels has the
> propane truck falling from the 895 ramp onto 95. I'm sure it will change a
> half dozen times before I get up in the morning though.
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ParrotRob wrote:
>
> "John R Cambron" <*camb...@chesapeake.net*> wrote in message
> news:1009l1i...@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> >
> > Jeff Kitsko wrote:
> > >
> > > "ParrotRob" <Parr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:Cl3Nb.623$iD6.2...@news1.news.adelphia.net...
> > > >
> > > > "Traffic was diverted onto U.S. Highway 29 and Maryland Highway 100,
> said
> > > > Lora Rakowski, a State Highway Administration spokeswoman. Motorists
> were
> > > > also encouraged to use U.S. Highway 1 and Interstate 295, she said."
> > > >
> > > > "Interstate 295", eh? Uh, sure, Ms. State Highway Administration
> > > > Spokeswoman.
> > >
> > > MD 295/Baltimore-Washington Parkway is like NYC parkways in that it bans
> > > trucks, correct?
> >
> > Not on MD-295. The road south of MD-175 is technically not MD-295
> > but is the Baltimore Washington Parkway and is maintained by the
> > National Park Service. The Park Service maintained part of the
> > this road has a no truck restriction, The Maryland SHA maintained
> > part of the Baltimore Washington Parkway has no restrictions.
>
> I don't think so, John. The "no truck" restriction doesn't end where the
> Park Service maintenance does.
It sure does, the BGS southbound north of the MD-175 interchange has
an "All Trucks Must Exit" tab on it.
> I'm not sure about the stretch of Md-295 INSIDE the Baltimore
> beltway,
Believe me, no restrictions, I drive this road south out of
Baltimore every day trying to stay out of the way of the Postal
Service contractor eighteen wheelers, FedEx And Airborne trucks
going to the depot in Linthicum from downtown Baltimore.
> but I'm pretty darn sure no trucks are allowed
> SOUTH of I-695, even north of the Md-175 exit.
There are no "No Trucks" signs on any of the exits from MD I-695
to MD-295. I drive the interloop of MD I-695 every evening.
I will also note if you do a Google search;
With "Baltimore Washington Parkway" in your search you will find
quit a bit on the Baltimore Washington Parkway.
John Lansford
I-95 reopens after fiery crash:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A15171-2004Jan14.html
Interstate 95 in Maryland was finally flowing both ways early this
morning a full half day after a tanker truck crash claimed four lives
and severed one of the region's busiest arteries of transportation.
The trouble began when a tank truck carrying flammable liquid plunged
over a concrete barrier on a highway overpass in northeastern Howard
County and landed in heavy traffic on Interstate 95.
Northbound lanes, which closed at about 3 p.m. yesterday, were
reopened after a massive cleanup operation that was completed at about
3:30 a.m. this morning.
John Lansford, PE
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Scott M. Kozel
>
> I-95 reopens after fiery crash:
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A15171-2004Jan14.html
>
> Interstate 95 in Maryland was finally flowing both ways early this
> morning a full half day after a tanker truck crash claimed four lives
> and severed one of the region's busiest arteries of transportation.
The article says that the I-895 ramp bridge over I-95 also has reopened.
Basiltoe345
and/or detours in the area, in question, that would not be reported on
nationwide news, or if there were Gapers' Delays (rubber-neckers), or weird
religious people who are wary of crossing resently "cursed" and "hallowed"
ground. I just hope they have some idea whom the victim are...
Froggie
delays
> and/or detours in the area, in question, that would not be reported on
> nationwide news, or if there were Gapers' Delays (rubber-neckers),
Hard to have rubberneckers when both sides of the highway were closed...
Yes, I know southbound lanes opened yesterday evening, but that was after rush
hour...
Froggie | Virginia Beach, VA | http://www.ajfroggie.com/roads/
Guy Olsen
What I'd like to know is, how could a truck fall off this bridge??
Did it have inadequate barriers?
Guy Olsen, PE (NJ)
Scott M. Kozel
>
> "ParrotRob" <parr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > As if that weren't enough, along comes a tanker truck carrying some sort of
> > petroleum (no one seems to know what yet, although propane is suspected) and
> > plowed into the fallen trailer and incinerated the whole mess. The fireball
> > was visible 5 or more miles away, they say. That stretch of I-95 is closed
> > in both directions for god only knows how long.
>
> What I'd like to know is, how could a truck fall off this bridge??
> Did it have inadequate barriers?
The articles said that the truck was moving erratically. A standard
Jersey Barrier parapet design from the mid-1970s (what I recall being
there) is 32 inches high, and if a large truck moving at highway speed
hits the barrier at a high enough angle of incidence, the truck can
vault over the barrier.
John R Cambron
Froggie wrote:
>
> > I am inquiring to Baltimore area commuters if there were any significant
> delays
> > and/or detours in the area, in question, that would not be reported on
> > nationwide news, or if there were Gapers' Delays (rubber-neckers),
>
> Hard to have rubberneckers when both sides of the highway were closed...
>
> Yes, I know southbound lanes opened yesterday evening, but that was after rush
> hour...
And I drove through there about 20 minutes after two of the four
lanes were opened.
MD SHA had trucks lined up along the left shoulder to block the
view of the burned wreckage. That still did not keep people from
slowing to try to get a look.
John R Cambron
"Scott M. Kozel" wrote:
>
> GuyP...@AOL.com (Guy Olsen) wrote:
> >
> > "ParrotRob" <parr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > As if that weren't enough, along comes a tanker truck carrying some sort of
> > > petroleum (no one seems to know what yet, although propane is suspected) and
> > > plowed into the fallen trailer and incinerated the whole mess. The fireball
> > > was visible 5 or more miles away, they say. That stretch of I-95 is closed
> > > in both directions for god only knows how long.
> >
> > What I'd like to know is, how could a truck fall off this bridge??
> > Did it have inadequate barriers?
>
> The articles said that the truck was moving erratically. A standard
> Jersey Barrier parapet design from the mid-1970s (what I recall being
> there) is 32 inches high, and if a large truck moving at highway speed
> hits the barrier at a high enough angle of incidence, the truck can
> vault over the barrier.
Reports made by the Maryland Transportation Authority Police
(the lead police agency doing the investigation) states that
the truck was caring gasoline and entered the Harbor Tunnel
Thruway MD I-895 at the southbound entrance between the south
end of the harbor tunnel and the toll plaza. The driver had
no violations on his Maryland driving record. He loaded the
truck at one of the gasoline terminals in the Curtis Bay area.
As Scott stated MTA police said the truck was moving
erratically.
As I recall the barrier on the bridge is not a jersey wall but
a short parapet with a aluminum rail on top. I don't recall
how the Armco guardrail was attached at the north approach end
of the bridge.
John Lansford
The one bar metal rail design of bridge barriers is an accepted design
for structures, just like the Jersey barrier is. It is entirely
possible that the truck rolled over the top of it instead of ramming
through it, however; even the standard half-Jersey barrier bridge rail
is susceptible to that happening.
Scott M. Kozel
> > Jersey Barrier parapet design from the mid-1970s (what I recall being
> > there) is 32 inches high, and if a large truck moving at highway speed
> > hits the barrier at a high enough angle of incidence, the truck can
> > vault over the barrier.
>
> Reports made by the Maryland Transportation Authority Police
> (the lead police agency doing the investigation) states that
> the truck was caring gasoline and entered the Harbor Tunnel
> Thruway MD I-895 at the southbound entrance between the south
> end of the harbor tunnel and the toll plaza. The driver had
> no violations on his Maryland driving record. He loaded the
> truck at one of the gasoline terminals in the Curtis Bay area.
> As Scott stated MTA police said the truck was moving
> erratically.
>
> As I recall the barrier on the bridge is not a jersey wall but
> a short parapet with a aluminum rail on top. I don't recall
> how the Armco guardrail was attached at the north approach end
> of the bridge.
"The tanker truck that exploded on Interstate 95 Tuesday was moving
erratically, and its load of gasoline was shifting violently, before the
truck plunged rear-end-first from an overpass onto the highway,
according to investigators and witnesses interviewed by police".
http://www.sunspot.net/news/traffic/bal-te.md.tanker15jan15,0,122038.story?coll=bal-local-headlines
ParrotRob
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>
>
> "Scott M. Kozel" wrote:
> >
> > GuyP...@AOL.com (Guy Olsen) wrote:
> > >
> > > "ParrotRob" <parr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > As if that weren't enough, along comes a tanker truck carrying some
sort of
> > > > petroleum (no one seems to know what yet, although propane is
suspected) and
> > > > plowed into the fallen trailer and incinerated the whole mess. The
fireball
> > > > was visible 5 or more miles away, they say. That stretch of I-95 is
closed
> > > > in both directions for god only knows how long.
> > >
> > > What I'd like to know is, how could a truck fall off this bridge??
> > > Did it have inadequate barriers?
> >
> > The articles said that the truck was moving erratically. A standard
> > Jersey Barrier parapet design from the mid-1970s (what I recall being
> > there) is 32 inches high, and if a large truck moving at highway speed
> > hits the barrier at a high enough angle of incidence, the truck can
> > vault over the barrier.
>
> Reports made by the Maryland Transportation Authority Police
> (the lead police agency doing the investigation) states that
> the truck was caring gasoline and entered the Harbor Tunnel
> Thruway MD I-895 at the southbound entrance between the south
> end of the harbor tunnel and the toll plaza. The driver had
Granted, it's been a long time since I've been on the old Harbor Tunnel
Thruway, but I didn't think you could get ONTO the thruway in a southbound
direction south of the tunnel. I thought once you got on the thruway in
either direction you were committed to the tunnel. Did something change or
does my memory just fail me?
Mike Tantillo
The Childs Street exit (Exit 9) is SB entry, NB exit and is between
the south end of the tunnel and the toll plaza. So in otherwords,
traffic using this exit pays for the tunnel, but doesn't ever get to
use it....kind of a dumb setup IMO, but hey, its extra $$ for MdTA.
The childs St onramp is the last SB onramp...after that, there is the
toll and no further entrances. The NB exit is the first exit when you
enter from I-95...again, past the toll. So essentially you have to
pay a toll to travel on I-895 south of the toll booth, no way to avoid
it. North of the tunnel is a different story, as Lombard St (Exit 12)
is a full interchange with no ramp tolls. So one can use the segment
between I-95 and Lombard St. in either direction toll free.
In my Rand McNally Motor Carrier's Atlas, it indicated that a special
permit was needed to use the road with a Hazmat or double (both
prohibited in the tunnel) through the Childs Street interchange. I'm
not sure if this is still the case.
Rush Wickes
> "John R Cambron" <*camb...@chesapeake.net*> wrote in message
> Granted, it's been a long time since I've been on the old Harbor Tunnel
> Thruway, but I didn't think you could get ONTO the thruway in a southbound
> direction south of the tunnel. I thought once you got on the thruway in
> either direction you were committed to the tunnel. Did something change
or
> does my memory just fail me?
There is an entrance to the Thruway southbound that lies in between the
tunnel portal and the toll plaza. This is primarily used by industrial
traffic. I know there is an exit going northbound just after the toll
plaza, but before the tunnel. The existence of the southbound entrance was
news to me though.
Trucks entering the Thruway from the southbound entrance do pay the toll.
--
Jack Suslak
blackened on the northbound side and also noticed that 895 above was closed
above for more accident investigation and also I saw we saw a variable sign
saying 895 closed after exit 3 well before the 95/895 exit. Has 895 since
been reopened at all since the accident or now?
Jack
"Rush Wickes" <use...@rushw.com> wrote in message
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ParrotRob
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> I went by the crash site area on saturday afternoon and we saw the bridge
> blackened on the northbound side and also noticed that 895 above was
closed
> above for more accident investigation and also I saw we saw a variable
sign
> saying 895 closed after exit 3 well before the 95/895 exit. Has 895 since
> been reopened at all since the accident or now?
>
Oh yeah. 895 was open the next day.