Image identification needed
Michael G. Koerner
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9505/mercedesbenzstationwagowf1.jpg
which shows what looks like an interstate at an 'Exit 78A', has been wracking
everyones' brains. Where exactly it is taken? The car has Pennsylvania 'FOP'
plates, but I have not been able to match the image with any specific location
in the northeast.
The closest match that I could find is I-79 just north of the PATurnpike (at
interchange 78), but the ramps, buildings and sun angle are not correct.
Any ideas?
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Michael G. Koerner
> In another forvm that I frequent, the image
> http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9505/mercedesbenzstationwagowf1.jpg
> which shows what looks like an interstate at an 'Exit 78A', has been
> wracking everyones' brains. Where exactly it is taken? The car has
> Pennsylvania 'FOP' plates, but I have not been able to match the image
> with any specific location in the northeast.
>
> The closest match that I could find is I-79 just north of the PATurnpike
> (at interchange 78), but the ramps, buildings and sun angle are not
> correct.
>
> Any ideas?
Also, parts of it (ie, the car's plates) are likely photoshopped in, making it
harder.
armourereric
The style of lighting standard, the road being 6 lanes with a full 2
lane exit ramp going to a non-freeway kinda rules out Pennsylvania.
Eric
Scott Nazelrod
I don't think it's in the United States. Note that the left median
line is white, not yellow. It might be somewhere Canada. It could even
be the UK; the gore sign looks like it might be photoshopped.
-S.
Scott Nazelrod
Scratch that, it can't be the UK, I forgot about the left-hand/right-
hand drive thing. The stripes sort of look German, but that seems a
bit far-fetched to me.
-S.
Michael G. Koerner
Yea, the consensus in the other forvm is that it is a photoshopped image from
somewhere in northern Europe. Someone else in there made commentary about the
makes/models of the cars after I posted this, too.
Bigfoot 4x4x4
<mgk...@dataex.com> wrote:
>In another forvm that I frequent, the image
>http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9505/mercedesbenzstationwagowf1.jpg
>which shows what looks like an interstate at an 'Exit 78A', has been wracking
>everyones' brains. Where exactly it is taken? The car has Pennsylvania 'FOP'
>plates, but I have not been able to match the image with any specific location
>in the northeast.
>
>The closest match that I could find is I-79 just north of the PATurnpike (at
>interchange 78), but the ramps, buildings and sun angle are not correct.
>
>Any ideas?
That is not in the U.S. or Canada. The black SUV going in the opposite
direction has a wide, Euro-style plate. Also, I've never seen a dump
truck like that in North America. The Mercedes also has Euro-spec side
turn signal lamps nut used here. I don't even know if that model was
sold in the U.S.
k_f...@lycos.com
> In another forvm that I frequent, the imagehttp://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9505/mercedesbenzstationwagowf1.jpg
> which shows what looks like an interstate at an 'Exit 78A', has been wracking
> everyones' brains. Where exactly it is taken? The car has Pennsylvania 'FOP'
> plates, but I have not been able to match the image with any specific location
> in the northeast.
>
> The closest match that I could find is I-79 just north of the PATurnpike (at
> interchange 78), but the ramps, buildings and sun angle are not correct.
>
> Any ideas?
Sat photos of that exit show a different configuration; two through
lanes, not three, and the dual lane exit ramp goes straight up to the
cross street, as opposd to Exit 78A which is a trumpet (or a French
horn!).
Richard Carlson, N9JIG
"Michael G. Koerner" <mgk...@dataex.com> wrote:
> In another forvm that I frequent, the image
> http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9505/mercedesbenzstationwagowf1.jpg
> which shows what looks like an interstate at an 'Exit 78A', has been wracking
> everyones' brains. Where exactly it is taken? The car has Pennsylvania
> 'FOP'
> plates, but I have not been able to match the image with any specific
> location
> in the northeast.
>
> The closest match that I could find is I-79 just north of the PATurnpike (at
> interchange 78), but the ramps, buildings and sun angle are not correct.
>
> Any ideas?
It was apparently taken with an Olympus E-500 digital camera, on April
28, 2006. It was PhotoShopped on October 18, 2006 by a Windows computer.
Beyond that, it looks like Germany to me...
Michael G. Koerner
Some of the later discussion in that other forvm has it being an image of a
British motorway that was reversed and then the photoshopped-in items were added.
EAST COAST HIVE MIND
Can't be GB-they use cat's eyes on the roads there.
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> On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 11:06:32 -0500, "Michael G. Koerner"
>
> <mgk...@dataex.com> wrote:
> >In another forvm that I frequent, the image
> >http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9505/mercedesbenzstationwagowf1.jpg
> >which shows what looks like an interstate at an 'Exit 78A', has been wracking
> >everyones' brains. Where exactly it is taken? The car has Pennsylvania 'FOP'
> >plates, but I have not been able to match the image with any specific location
> >in the northeast.
>
> >The closest match that I could find is I-79 just north of the PATurnpike (at
> >interchange 78), but the ramps, buildings and sun angle are not correct.
>
> >Any ideas?
>
> That is not in the U.S. or Canada. The black SUV going in the opposite
> direction has a wide, Euro-style plate.
That's a reflection off the front bumper, not a wide plate. PA-
registered vehicled have no front plate.
> Also, I've never seen a dump truck like that in North America.
I have. It doesn't look overlly unusual.
> The Mercedes also has Euro-spec side
> turn signal lamps nut used here. I don't even know if that model was
> sold in the U.S.
Can't speak to that, but the exit sign is definitely US-style.
It's probably somewhere in PA.
Joseph Houk
On 09/29/2007 9:46 PM, in article
D5-dne_MbPuBk2Lb...@athenet.net, "Michael G. Koerner"
<mgk...@dataex.com> wrote:
>> It was apparently taken with an Olympus E-500 digital camera, on April
>> 28, 2006. It was PhotoShopped on October 18, 2006 by a Windows computer.
>>
>> Beyond that, it looks like Germany to me...
>
> Some of the later discussion in that other forvm has it being an image of a
> British motorway that was reversed and then the photoshopped-in items were
> added.
The gold minivan to the left appears photoshopped, as it's not as blurred as
the others (and is too close to the black SUV to be going that fast).
It's a good, realistic photo - but not many outside of roadgeeks would
probably recognize it as a faked photo.
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wrote:
> In article <ULOdncZsUOyV5WPbnZ2dnUVZ_uCin...@athenet.net>,
Do German exit signs say "EXIT?"
k_f...@lycos.com
wrote:
> Richard Carlson, N9JIG wrote:
> > In article <ULOdncZsUOyV5WPbnZ2dnUVZ_uCin...@athenet.net>,
> > "Michael G. Koerner" <mgk...@dataex.com> wrote:
>
> >> In another forvm that I frequent, the image
> >>http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9505/mercedesbenzstationwagowf1.jpg
> >> which shows what looks like an interstate at an 'Exit 78A', has been
> >> wracking
> >> everyones' brains. Where exactly it is taken? The car has Pennsylvania
> >> 'FOP'
> >> plates, but I have not been able to match the image with any specific
> >> location
> >> in the northeast.
>
> >> The closest match that I could find is I-79 just north of the PATurnpike
> >> (at interchange 78), but the ramps, buildings and sun angle are not
> >> correct.
>
> >> Any ideas?
>
> > It was apparently taken with an Olympus E-500 digital camera, on April
> > 28, 2006. It was PhotoShopped on October 18, 2006 by a Windows computer.
>
> > Beyond that, it looks like Germany to me...
>
> Can't be GB-they use cat's eyes on the roads there.
Plus they drive on the other side!
k_f...@lycos.com
>
> <mgk...@dataex.com> wrote:
> >> It was apparently taken with an Olympus E-500 digital camera, on April
> >> 28, 2006. It was PhotoShopped on October 18, 2006 by a Windows computer.
>
> >> Beyond that, it looks like Germany to me...
>
> > Some of the later discussion in that other forvm has it being an image of a
> > British motorway that was reversed and then the photoshopped-in items were
> > added.
>
> The gold minivan to the left appears photoshopped, as it's not as blurred as
> the others (and is too close to the black SUV to be going that fast).
It doesn't appear that way at all to me. In fact, it looks to me like
the black SUV isn't tailgating the gold minivan (although in PA, that
would be normal!) but rather that the black SUV is in Lane 2
southbound while the gold minivan is in Lane 1.
> It's a good, realistic photo - but not many outside of roadgeeks would
> probably recognize it as a faked photo.
I don't see it as faked at all. Why do you think so?
kh...@jersey.net
> In another forvm that I frequent, the imagehttp://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9505/mercedesbenzstationwagowf1.jpg
The car ahead of the mercedes appears to possibly have NJ tags.
Notice the yellow at the top of the tag, slowly fading to a whitish
color. It also appears to have an orange registration sticker in the
upper right hand corner, which would indicate the correct placement of
such sticker on a Jersey tag at the time.
However, It couldn't have been taken in NJ for many reasons -
different guardrail style, lighting style, and the fact that there's
no Interchange 78 anywhere in NJ. The only possible route that could
even have one is the Garden State Parkway, and the closest
interchanges are exit 77 and exit 80. No other highway is long enough
in this state to have a Int. 78.
EAST COAST HIVE MIND
>> It's a good, realistic photo - but not many outside of roadgeeks would
>> probably recognize it as a faked photo.
>
> I don't see it as faked at all. Why do you think so?
Look closely at the PA plate on the Mercedes. The numbers are pretty
vivid-the shadowing is consistent, but it's lighter over the plate. The
lorry in the far distance is not an american make and not found on american
roads. The only other country that uses american-type signage is Australia,
which is left-hand drive, and uses cat's eyes on freeways, and only uses
junction numbers on one highway in Queensland. The dashed lines for the
gore are not American or Australian. The only European country that uses
distance based numbers is Spain, France and Germany could have a
theoretical j78, even though they use sequential junction numbers, but this
is not the right sign format by any stretch.
EAST COAST HIVE MIND
> It's probably somewhere in PA.
PA hasn't used box beam railing in years, there are remnants about-most with
external joins. The ones in that snap are a fair bit beefier than what
you'd find in PA. The light standards are all wrong, and it looks to be a
semi-rural location, so there would not be light standards in the central
reservation.
Joseph Houk
1191126578.6...@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com, "k_f...@lycos.com"
<k_f...@lycos.com> wrote:
Probably because of the XIF information in the photo which says it's been
touched up by Photoshop.
Joseph Houk
On 09/30/2007 3:18 AM, in article C324C5EA.2119%jho...@wi.rr.com, "Joseph
Houk" <jho...@wi.rr.com> wrote:
I should clarify:
EXIF information (which the camera automatically encodes into the photo)
says this:
> Image title: OLYMPUS DIGITAL CAMERA
> Make: OLYMPUS IMAGING CORP.
> Model: E-500
> Orientation of image: 1
> X resolution: 300.0 ppi (pixel per inch)
> Y resolution: 300.0 ppi (pixel per inch)
> Resolution unit: inch
> Software: Adobe Photoshop CS Windows
> File date and time: 2006:10:18 12:32:24
<snip>
That says the person in question used an Olympus E-500 camera, and touched
it up with Photoshop CS in October of 2006.
> Date and time of original data generation: 2006:04:28 13:09:44
> Date and time of digital data generation: 2006:04:28 13:09:44
<snip>
That says the photo was originally taken in April of 2006 at a little after
1 in the afternoon... That means that the view is probably Eastbound on
whatever highway they were on.
It also means the photo was altered about six months after the fact...
Question would be why, of course.
That also doesn't necessarily appear to be an "8" after the 7. That *could*
be exit 75A, or 73A. Squinting, it actually looks like it's a 75A.
The facility on the left (which would be the NW corner of the
interchange/exit) appears to be a truck stop of some sort. Or, it could be a
storage warehouse. Either way, it's tucked in to the intersection.
Maybe that will help.
Michael D. Adams
> The only European country that uses
> distance based numbers is Spain, France and Germany could have a
> theoretical j78, even though they use sequential junction numbers, but this
> is not the right sign format by any stretch.
Besides, the exit sign in the gore fails to cast a shadow consistent
with other vehicles in the picture.
However, on the exit ramp, the white sign with the red-bordered blue
round figure looks like an intriguing clue.
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Michael G. Koerner
German autobahn 'EXIT' gore signs are blue pentagons, shaped into an arrow,
with the word "Ausfahrt" ('Exit') (crude ASCII art follows):
+------------.
| Ausfahrt >
+------------'
Michael G. Koerner
As I mentioned upthread, posters in the other forvm where I found this have
concluded that this is an image of a British highway which was reversed and
the picky details that make it look (on the surface) like a USA highway were
then Photoshopped in.
Froggie
> > "EAST COAST HIVE MIND" <res...@nce-is-futi.le> wrote:
>
> > The only European country that uses
> > distance based numbers is Spain, France and Germany could have a
> > theoretical j78, even though they use sequential junction numbers, but this
> > is not the right sign format by any stretch.
>
> Besides, the exit sign in the gore fails to cast a shadow consistent
> with other vehicles in the picture.
Not to mention the gore striping. In the photo it's dashed. American-
standard is solid-line gore striping.
Nevermind that someone else looked at the image info that points to a
photoshopped image.
Froggie | Picayune, MS | http://www.ajfroggie.com/roads/
PAD
> In another forvm that I frequent, the image
> http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9505/mercedesbenzstationwagowf1.jpg
> which shows what looks like an interstate at an 'Exit 78A', has been
> wracking everyones' brains. Where exactly it is taken? The car has
> Pennsylvania 'FOP' plates, but I have not been able to match the image
> with any specific location in the northeast.
>
> The closest match that I could find is I-79 just north of the
> PATurnpike (at interchange 78), but the ramps, buildings and sun angle
> are not correct.
>
> Any ideas?
>
Looks Canadian to me. SW Ontario?
Pete
Rich Piehl
Does that part of Canada use rectangular exit gore signs? Or do they
use the odd shaped rhombus ones like are used in the western Canada?
Take care,
Rich
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and substitute my own.
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Nathan Perry
Joseph Houk <jho...@wi.rr.com> wrote:
> That says the photo was originally taken in April of 2006 at a little after
> 1 in the afternoon... That means that the view is probably Eastbound on
> whatever highway they were on.
Southern hemisphere, eh? Any right-side drive countries down there?
Nathan Perry
"Michael D. Adams" <mda-u...@triskele.com> wrote:
> "EAST COAST HIVE MIND" <res...@nce-is-futi.le> wrote:
>
> > The only European country that uses
> > distance based numbers is Spain, France and Germany could have a
> > theoretical j78, even though they use sequential junction numbers, but this
> > is not the right sign format by any stretch.
>
> Besides, the exit sign in the gore fails to cast a shadow consistent
> with other vehicles in the picture.
It's also enormous if that white van is as big as I think it is.
PAD
I'm not sure about the exit gore signs, it's been a while since I've
motored around Canada. I do seem to remember they had rectangle/square
signs not some 'odd' shaped animal.
My feeling about the photo being taken in SW Ontario (London say) is
that the topography is flattish, trees appear to be deciduous and things
in Canada always struck me as being "almost like the US, but some how
different". Sorry nothing concrete to go on.
Kevin Flynn's point about the dump-truck looking odd, I think it's one
of those work-site dumpsters that's on the truck going somewhere.
Pete
k_f...@lycos.com
Why?
I agree with the other poster who said the sign might not say "78A"
but perhaps 73 or 75A. I started examining that possibility last night
but haven;t found anything.
k_f...@lycos.com
Ausfahrt? That's where you get off when you have gas~
k_f...@lycos.com
> On 09/30/2007 3:18 AM, in article C324C5EA.2119%jho...@wi.rr.com, "Joseph
> Houk" <jho...@wi.rr.com> wrote:
> > On 09/29/2007 11:29 PM, in article
> >>> It's a good, realistic photo - but not many outside of roadgeeks would
> >>> probably recognize it as a faked photo.
>
> >> I don't see it as faked at all. Why do you think so?
>
> > Probably because of the XIF information in the photo which says it's been
> > touched up by Photoshop.
>
> I should clarify:
>
> EXIF information (which the camera automatically encodes into the photo)
> says this:
>
> > Image title: OLYMPUS DIGITAL CAMERA
> > Make: OLYMPUS IMAGING CORP.
> > Model: E-500
> > Orientation of image: 1
> > X resolution: 300.0 ppi (pixel per inch)
> > Y resolution: 300.0 ppi (pixel per inch)
> > Resolution unit: inch
> > Software: Adobe Photoshop CS Windows
> > File date and time: 2006:10:18 12:32:24
>
> <snip>
>
> That says the person in question used an Olympus E-500 camera, and touched
> it up with Photoshop CS in October of 2006.
Where does it indicate that the photo was touched up, as opposed to
simply being uploaded from the camera into Adobe Photoshop? My wife
uploads all of her photos into Adobe Photoshop, so they would indicate
being stored in that software, but she almost never does anythign else
to them but assemble albums. once in a while she lightens or darkens
overall.
Does the info indicate actual "touching up?" Where?
> > Date and time of original data generation: 2006:04:28 13:09:44
> > Date and time of digital data generation: 2006:04:28 13:09:44
>
> <snip>
> That says the photo was originally taken in April of 2006 at a little after
> 1 in the afternoon... That means that the view is probably Eastbound on
> whatever highway they were on.
Or northbound. If it's eastbound, the shadow is on the wrong side of
the car.
Also, the time stamp on the file isn't necessarily correct. Once for
several months I was taking photos without programming in the correct
date (after a battery change). All my photos came out with a date that
was five months earlier than they were actually taken.
> It also means the photo was altered about six months after the fact...
> Question would be why, of course.
If it's given that the respective clocks were correct, yes. And I
agree. Why would anyone do it?
> That also doesn't necessarily appear to be an "8" after the 7. That *could*
> be exit 75A, or 73A. Squinting, it actually looks like it's a 75A.
I agree.
> The facility on the left (which would be the NW corner of the
> interchange/exit) appears to be a truck stop of some sort. Or, it could be a
> storage warehouse. Either way, it's tucked in to the intersection.
It's astride the entrance ramp, it's not inside the intersection. This
is a straight diamond interchange, so the facility on the left is
outside of it.
It could also be the SW corner of the intersection; this can't be
eastbound if it's a real photo, given the date (early spring) and sun
position -- the sun is too far "north" for the picture to be looking
east.
k_f...@lycos.com
wrote:
> "EAST COAST HIVE MIND" <res...@nce-is-futi.le> wrote:
>
> > The only European country that uses
> > distance based numbers is Spain, France and Germany could have a
> > theoretical j78, even though they use sequential junction numbers, but this
> > is not the right sign format by any stretch.
>
> Besides, the exit sign in the gore fails to cast a shadow consistent
> with other vehicles in the picture.
I disagree. The sunlight direction is nearly straight left-to-right.
The shadow that is being cast by the sign, which is almost perfectly
parallel to the sunlight direction, is too thin to be seen and would
fall slighty on the rise of a swale at the gore point. It's mostly
just shielded by the terrain, would be my guess.
> However, on the exit ramp, the white sign with the red-bordered blue
> round figure looks like an intriguing clue.
That's the truth!
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k_f...@lycos.com
I disagree with this also. I've looked at that line and I believe it
is yellow; it is not nearly as bright as the known white lines, so it
is not refelcting as much. Especially if you look ahead at the
distance in the photo. IMO, it's a faded yellow.
My Land of Misery
> On Sep 29, 1:35 pm, Scott Nazelrod <Scott5...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 29, 11:27 am, "Michael G. Koerner" <mgk...@dataex.com> wrote:
>
> > > Michael G. Koerner wrote:
> > > > In another forvm that I frequent, the image
> > > >http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9505/mercedesbenzstationwagowf1.jpg
> > > > which shows what looks like an interstate at an 'Exit 78A', has been
> > > > wracking everyones' brains. Where exactly it is taken? The car has
> > > > Pennsylvania 'FOP' plates, but I have not been able to match the image
> > > > with any specific location in the northeast.
>
> > > > The closest match that I could find is I-79 just north of the PATurnpike
> > > > (at interchange 78), but the ramps, buildings and sun angle are not
> > > > correct.
>
> > > > Any ideas?
>
> > > harder.
>
> > > --
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>
> > line is white, not yellow. It might be somewhere Canada. It could even
> > be the UK; the gore sign looks like it might be photoshopped.
> > -S.
>
> Scratch that, it can't be the UK, I forgot about the left-hand/right-
> hand drive thing. The stripes sort of look German, but that seems a
> bit far-fetched to me.
> -S.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Maybe not...it looks to me like the exit sign and the PA plate are
photoshopped in. The plates on the other vehicles appear to be the
European style. Also, the red-background sign on the right side of
the ramp (partially hidden by vegetation) does not appear to be
standard for US freeways.
One place I can certainly rule out: the 7th Ring Road exit from Kuwait
Highway 40 (not only due to vegetation, but Kuwait mixes English and
Arabic on its signs).
Larry Harvilla
> In another forvm that I frequent, the image
> http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9505/mercedesbenzstationwagowf1.jpg
> which shows what looks like an interstate at an 'Exit 78A', has been wracking
> everyones' brains. Where exactly it is taken? The car has Pennsylvania 'FOP'
> plates, but I have not been able to match the image with any specific location
> in the northeast.
>
> The closest match that I could find is I-79 just north of the PATurnpike (at
> interchange 78), but the ramps, buildings and sun angle are not correct.
>
> Any ideas?
Well, a few things are absolutely clear:
-- The picture is looking westbound on an east-west road.
-- The car in front of the Mercedes has either a standard-issue NJ
plate, or one of the specialty "nature" ones that I know I've seen PA
issue before.
-- The exit sign, whether Photoshopped or not, looks like a PennDOT exit
sign.
-- The majority of the cars on the road, in both directions, look to be
North American rather than European. The gold minivan going the other
way is clearly a Chrysler Town & Country, and I think the black one
behind it is a Ford Windstar. The pickup truck going the same direction
(you can only see its camper cap) is probably an older 1/2-ton
Chevrolet, from the look of the camper cap.
-- If - and this is a HUGE if - it's somewhere in PA, it probably has to
be suburban Philadelphia. The lack of large hills would sort of mean it
could only be the southeastern quadrant of the Commonwealth, and the
area seems to have a suburban feel to it.
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Tha_Professor
There is a roundabout at the end of that ramp (that some big white
sign indicates)
I'm not sure what the sign with the purple dot is indicative of.
My guess is the license plate and exit sign were photoshopped in.
I don't know where exactly this is, but I'm 99.9% sure it isn't in
PA. I doubt it's in the US.
But that's just, like, my opinion, man.
kh...@jersey.net
I'm kinda thinking it may be in Canada, since they I believe have
white left lines, and it'll account for the PA and NJ tags, if they
aren't photoshopped. It doesn't account for the british looking tags
on the opposing traffic. Using maps.google.com, you can zoom into the
map close enough to get an exit number (75A, 78A, etc), then using the
satalite image you can sometimes zoom in for the detail. However, one
thing I've noticed on many of the Canadian road shots is that at
nearly every exit, there's an overhead cantivier sign right at the
split, which this photo doesn't have.
However, that PA plate gives the appearance that the wording on the
bottom isn't correct (notice how it drifts into the main white part of
the plate). And when I zoomed into the photo, the numbers seemed
awfully clean.
Jeff Kitsko
news:ULOdncZsUOyV5WPb...@athenet.net...
> In another forvm that I frequent, the image
> http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9505/mercedesbenzstationwagowf1.jpg
> which shows what looks like an interstate at an 'Exit 78A', has been
wracking
> everyones' brains. Where exactly it is taken? The car has Pennsylvania
'FOP'
> plates, but I have not been able to match the image with any specific
location
> in the northeast.
>
> The closest match that I could find is I-79 just north of the PATurnpike
(at
> interchange 78), but the ramps, buildings and sun angle are not correct.
If it was wracking their brains, they should have come to my site.
That is definately not Cranberry Township. The line closest to the median
is white and not yellow, I-79's median is an Interstate-standard one, and
the exit ramps are not two lanes.
If you want to see what the real 79 looks like in that area, go to
http://www.pahighways.com/interstates/I79pictures.html. That image has
obviously been PhotoShopped.
--
Jeff Kitsko
Pennsylvania Highways: http://www.pahighways.com/
Craig Zeni
> In another forvm that I frequent, the image
> http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9505/mercedesbenzstationwagowf1.jpg
> which shows what looks like an interstate at an 'Exit 78A', has been
> wracking everyones' brains. Where exactly it is taken? The car has
> Pennsylvania 'FOP' plates, but I have not been able to match the image
> with any specific location in the northeast.
>
> The closest match that I could find is I-79 just north of the PATurnpike
> (at interchange 78), but the ramps, buildings and sun angle are not
> correct.
>
Not the US. The car in front of the Benz wagon is a Renault. The Benz
has a side-marker turn signal light - that style of Benz sold here in
the US didn't have that light. The truck looks like it has a rear fog
lamp - not used here. Gore striping is European. The gold minivan on
the left is a Chrysler, which is sold in Europe. The white panel van on
the slip road looks like one of the squatty Peugeot or Renault vans,
again, not sold here. The white panel van half hidden by the gold
Chrysler is definitely a Euro model not sold here - again, looks like a
Renault or Peugeot and certainly not a Sprinter from Dodge/Daimler Benz.
Craig Zeni
k_f...@lycos.com
Not on my screen. It's most definitely more drab than the known whites
in the photo. Maybe I'm too familiar with CDOT waiting to repaint
until the yellows fade. ;-)
But I do see a most definite difference.
Paul D. DeRocco
>
> Where does it indicate that the photo was touched up, as opposed to
> simply being uploaded from the camera into Adobe Photoshop? My wife
> uploads all of her photos into Adobe Photoshop, so they would indicate
> being stored in that software, but she almost never does anythign else
> to them but assemble albums. once in a while she lightens or darkens
> overall.
Same here. I photoshop all my images before posting, mostly for cropping and
curves, but I rarely retouch them for content.
> Or northbound. If it's eastbound, the shadow is on the wrong side of
> the car.
Assuming northern hemisphere, I'd say westbound, since a 1pm sun on April 28
would be pretty much due south, and the shadows look to be going to the
right.
> If it's given that the respective clocks were correct, yes. And I
> agree. Why would anyone do it?
Exactly. What I'd want to know about this image is what its original purpose
was, because the charge of "photoshopping" raises the question of why
someone would do that.
--
Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco
Paul mailto:pder...@ix.netcom.com
Michael D. Adams
> > > I disagree with this also. I've looked at that line and I believe it
> > > is yellow; it is not nearly as bright as the known white lines, so it
> > > is not refelcting as much. Especially if you look ahead at the
> > > distance in the photo. IMO, it's a faded yellow.
> >
> > It's whiter than Weird Al :)
>
> Not on my screen. It's most definitely more drab than the known whites
> in the photo. Maybe I'm too familiar with CDOT waiting to repaint
> until the yellows fade. ;-)
>
> But I do see a most definite difference.
Besides, the alleged yellow-ness of the center striping does little to
address the likely non-North Americanness of that sign on the right hand
side of the ramp, which I'd bet is a European-style no-parking sign of
some sort.
Someone who still remembers trig could do something with the date stamp
on the picture and the length of the shadows to estimate the latitude at
which the picture was taken.
Also, FWIW, I could swear that I've seen some Spanish autopista pics
that had gore striping similar to that shown in this picture (not that
Spanish highway authorities are the best at consistent striping
standards...).
David D Miller
> In another forvm that I frequent, the image
> http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9505/mercedesbenzstationwagowf1.jpg
> which shows what looks like an interstate at an 'Exit 78A', has been
> wracking everyones' brains. Where exactly it is taken? The car has
> Pennsylvania 'FOP' plates, but I have not been able to match the image
> with any specific location in the northeast.
>
> The closest match that I could find is I-79 just north of the PATurnpike
> (at interchange 78), but the ramps, buildings and sun angle are not
> correct.
>
> Any ideas?
It's in the UK. It's on the A13, at the eastbound exit for the A1306 -
a mile short of M25 J30 at Thurrock: NGR TQ545802 or 51.5N 0.22E
(It took me about five hours to find.)
--
David D Miller
St Andrews, Scotland
Floyd Rogers
VERY NICE!
Google link:
http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&q=Thurrock,+uk&ll=51.49982,0.225821&spn=0.009604,0.021715&t=h&z=16&om=1
FloydR
Michael G. Koerner
BRAVO!
Nominations for RoadGeek of the Year™ are now open!
Tha_Professor
What sort of tinkering does one have to do to get the cars to appear
on the "right" side of the road?
Is it something one can do with the whole image (I can't think of
anything offhand to do that)
Or did whoever doctored this photo simply add cars (with American
plates) and shadows driving on the right side?
Tha_Professor
"F" Photoshop. I was able to do it within 2 seconds in Paint.
Just another reminder of why I didn't become some painter or
photographer.
kh...@jersey.net
> "David D Miller" <spamt...@a918.demon.co.uk> wrote
>
> FloydR- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Nice job!
John Mayson
> German autobahn 'EXIT' gore signs are blue pentagons, shaped into an arrow,
> with the word "Ausfahrt" ('Exit') (crude ASCII art follows):
>
> +------------.
> | Ausfahrt >
> +------------'
> || ||
Okay. Who else here giggled about that one? :-)
In The Netherlands they say "UIT".
--
John Mayson <jo...@mayson.us>
Austin, Texas, USA
John Mayson
PA plate is fake as is the exit sign. It's obviously Europe, probably
northern Germany.
Michael G. Koerner
> John's guess.
>
> PA plate is fake as is the exit sign. It's obviously Europe, probably
> northern Germany.
It has already been identified as being on a major highway on the north side
of the Thames River just west of the M-25 orbital motorway in the eastern
London suburban area (Thurrock, UK). The image was mirror-image reversed.
David D Miller
>> However, on the exit ramp, the white sign with the red-bordered blue
>> round figure looks like an intriguing clue.
>
> That's the truth!
That one sign was probably the single most important clue for working it
out.
There was absolutely no doubt in my mind that this was a British scene.
Apart from the few modified bits (and being reversed) just about
everything about the picture looks British - pavement surface, white
markings, geometry, traffic, etc. Some of my non-roadgeek colleagues at
work looked at it and came up with sensible suggestions - without ever
noticing that it had been reversed.
The green sign on the gore could easily have replaced an equivalent
British sign, although I now know this not to be the case. The map
diagram for the roundabout at the top of the ramp is typically British:
Most other north European countries with similar signs would have had a
coloured background on them - green, blue, or yellow. The half-hidden
red sign is also allowed: It's probably a worded sign, possibly
something like "REDUCE SPEED NOW".
And the 'red-bordered blue round figure' is most likely a "No waiting"
or "Clearway" marking. It's actually a red cross on a blue circle, with
a red border. (The normal "No Parking" sign has a single diagonal
across the circle.)
Were this motorway, stopping would be illegal anyway, so "End of
Clearway" wouldn't ever be used. If it were motorway and this was a
"Start of Clearway" (i.e., on the surface street), that would be wrong
too: The motorway regulations would apply right up to the roundabout, so
this sign would be up at the top of the ramp, not down at the diverge.
The dashed lines around the hatched area on the gore are also consistent
with it being a non-motorway route - an "all purpose" road.
There's comparatively little D3AP - dual 3-lane all purpose - road in
the UK. Most of it's found around the margins of the larger cities, and
especially the arterial routes around and out of London. It was then
just a case of browsing maps and aerial photos until I found an exit
that matched.
David D Miller
In case people are wondering, identifying photos like this is a game
that UK roadgeeks play quite regularly - usually with signs and other
identifying information deliberately erased from the picture. I
wouldn't class this one as being particularly difficult - although it
did take me much longer than it should have done.
http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~ddm1/roads/Snapshots
There are four sets of pictures that I published in 2003 and 2004, each
set from a single weekend roadtrip. All the pictures were identified -
the first lot lasting less than 24 hours.
There are also two sets of pictures of Scottish roads - some my own, and
others vidcaps from a survey vehicle.
http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~ddm1/roads/Truvelos
This is an earlier quiz, dating from October 2002 - and one of the first
such quizzes I ever attempted. Just 13 pictures, some of them extremely
difficult: Again, all were identified. ('Truvelo' is one of the masters
of these games.)
John Mara
> http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~ddm1/roads/Snapshots
> There are four sets of pictures that I published in 2003 and 2004, each
> set from a single weekend roadtrip. All the pictures were identified -
> the first lot lasting less than 24 hours.
>
I noticed that the services sign in the 26th photo in Snapshots 4 lists
LPG. Are there a significant number of LPG fueled vehicles in the UK
or is this service for people with camping trailers? Or does LPG stand
for something other than liquefied petroleum gas?
John Mara
John Mayson
> John Mayson wrote:
>> John's guess.
>>
>> PA plate is fake as is the exit sign. It's obviously Europe, probably
>> northern Germany.
>
> It has already been identified as being on a major highway on the north side
> of the Thames River just west of the M-25 orbital motorway in the eastern
> London suburban area (Thurrock, UK). The image was mirror-image reversed.
NO! IT'S GERMANY! :-P
Yeah, I saw that after I posted. I'm catching up. Wow! Someone either
got lucky, is good, or has time on his hands. :-)