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Cliff

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Feb 12, 2011, 4:48:06 AM2/12/11
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"The Republicans just released their budget proposal, and it zeroes out
funding for both NPR and PBS—the worst proposal in more than a decade."

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/11/opinion/11fri1.html?_r=1
"Beyond Reason on the Budget," The New York Times, February 10, 2011
[
After two years of raging at President Obama’s spending plans, House Republican
leaders have finally revealed their real vision of small government: tens of
billions in ideologically driven cuts to job training, environmental protection,
disease control, crime protection and dozens of other critical functions that
only the government can perform.
....
]

Shall not be infringed

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Feb 12, 2011, 3:22:18 PM2/12/11
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On Feb 12, 4:48 am, Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om>
wrote:

>   "The Republicans just released their budget proposal, and it zeroes out
> funding for both NPR and PBS—the worst proposal in more than a decade."

I think it's a wonderful proposal.

>  http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/11/opinion/11fri1.html?_r=1
>   "Beyond Reason on the Budget," The New York Times, February 10, 2011
> [
> After two years of raging at President Obama’s spending plans, House Republican
> leaders have finally revealed their real vision of small government: tens of
> billions in ideologically driven cuts to job training, environmental protection,
> disease control, crime protection and dozens of other critical functions that
> only the government can perform.
> ....
> ]

So running a radio station is a critical function that only our
government can perform?

I'm going to have to disagree with you on that.

Jim Wilkins

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Feb 12, 2011, 4:18:12 PM2/12/11
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On Feb 12, 3:22 pm, Shall not be infringed <hot-ham-and-

http://www.npr.org/about/aboutnpr/publicradiofinances.html

RD Sandman

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Feb 12, 2011, 4:36:04 PM2/12/11
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Jim Wilkins <kb1...@gmail.com> wrote in
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So then running them is not dependent on tax monies recieved. Good to
hear that. Another reason to remove that portion of their funding and
use it for something else. It would also free them up from having to
spout the same agenda as the government. Who knows, they can even become
their own version of talk radio.

--
Sleep well tonight,

RD (The Sandman)

History shows that today's bailout will become
tomorrow's entitlement.

Shall not be infringed

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Feb 12, 2011, 7:40:49 PM2/12/11
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On Feb 12, 4:36 pm, RD Sandman <rdsandman@comcast[remove].net> wrote:

True story. Back when Air America was going, our local NPR station
WCBE, was running one of their monthly fund raisers. The announcer
said for listeners to send their money to WCBE, not Air America
because that money was rightfully theirs (WCBE's).

That of course, was the last time I ever sent money to Air NPR.

Beam Me Up Scotty

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Feb 12, 2011, 8:12:00 PM2/12/11
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One Giant Socialist conglomerate......

Stormin Mormon

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Feb 12, 2011, 8:58:14 PM2/12/11
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YIPPEE!!!!!

If the free market wants a bunch of smooth talking liberals
on the air, the public can pay for it. The Liberal Public
Radio near me and Liberal Broadcasting System near me have
fund drives nearly constantly. They can have bake sales like
Dan, in Colorodo.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

> > "The Republicans just released their budget proposal,
> > and it zeroes out

> > funding for both NPR and PBS."
>


deepdudu

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Feb 12, 2011, 9:31:49 PM2/12/11
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On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 20:12:00 -0500, Beam Me Up Scotty
<Then-Destro...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:


>>>
>>>>> So running a radio station is a critical function that only our
>>>>> government can perform?
>>>
>>>>> I'm going to have to disagree with you on that.
>>>
>>>> http://www.npr.org/about/aboutnpr/publicradiofinances.html
>>>
>>> So then running them is not dependent on tax monies recieved. Good to
>>> hear that. Another reason to remove that portion of their funding and
>>> use it for something else. It would also free them up from having to
>>> spout the same agenda as the government. Who knows, they can even become
>>> their own version of talk radio.
>>
>> True story. Back when Air America was going, our local NPR station
>> WCBE, was running one of their monthly fund raisers. The announcer
>> said for listeners to send their money to WCBE, not Air America
>> because that money was rightfully theirs (WCBE's).
>>
>> That of course, was the last time I ever sent money to Air NPR.
>
>One Giant Socialist conglomerate......

So I suppose you think Fox is fair and balanced factual reporting of
the news?

Boris Kapusta

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Feb 12, 2011, 9:32:34 PM2/12/11
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You misspelled Err. NPR should go to a pay-per-view type format.

Tom Gardner

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Feb 13, 2011, 12:35:22 AM2/13/11
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<Deep Dudu> wrote in message news:djgel65n90v59lbmh...@4ax.com...

> So I suppose you think Fox is fair and balanced factual reporting of
> the news?

Does your tax money (yea, like YOU pay taxes) go to FOX? NPR is highly partisan and
racist, therefore should not be tax funded or they need to be neutral. Typical
leftist hypocrite!


Jeff M

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Feb 13, 2011, 12:55:07 AM2/13/11
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On 2/12/2011 11:35 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
> <Deep Dudu> wrote in message news:djgel65n90v59lbmh...@4ax.com...
>
>> So I suppose you think Fox is fair and balanced factual reporting of
>> the news?
>
> Does your tax money (yea, like YOU pay taxes) go to FOX?

No, their second largest shareholder is Saudi Prince al-Walid bin Talal,
number one is Rupert Murdoch, another foreigner.

John R. Carroll

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Feb 13, 2011, 12:56:36 AM2/13/11
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Did you know Murdoch has passports from 5 countries, one of them China?
LOL


--
John R. Carroll


Too_Many_Tools

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Feb 13, 2011, 12:57:25 AM2/13/11
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On Feb 12, 3:48 am, Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om>
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Seems conservatives can't handle "fair and balanced" news reporting..

Hypocrites.

TMT

Boris Kapusta

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Feb 13, 2011, 2:12:16 AM2/13/11
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Let the savings begin!
The time has arrived to begin restoring our country to its rightful
place.

Spehro Pefhany

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Feb 13, 2011, 2:24:46 AM2/13/11
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I assume you mean HKSAR .. a regular Chinese passport cannot co-exist
with others as they don't recognize dual/multiple nationality. They
have a permanent residence permit for qualified foreigners, but it is
not a Chinese passport- it requires a valid foreign passport to enter
(or leave!).

--sp

Tom Gardner

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Feb 13, 2011, 3:14:38 AM2/13/11
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"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
news:dqqdnWivwqCg78rQ...@giganews.com...

And, what does that have to do with public funding of NPR? Do you think that equal
tax money should go to some conservative, non-racist broadcaster? Goose/Gander?


Too_Many_Tools

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Feb 13, 2011, 5:40:52 AM2/13/11
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> place.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Be careful what you wish for Gummer.

If the FCC starts enforcing, Faux News and its stable of conservative
clowns is in big trouble.

TMT

John R. Carroll

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Feb 13, 2011, 7:27:51 AM2/13/11
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Spehro Pefhany wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 21:56:36 -0800, the renowned "John R. Carroll"
> <nunyab...@dev.null> wrote:
>
>> Jeff M wrote:
>>> On 2/12/2011 11:35 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
>>>> <Deep Dudu> wrote in message
>>>> news:djgel65n90v59lbmh...@4ax.com...
>>>>> So I suppose you think Fox is fair and balanced factual reporting
>>>>> of the news?
>>>>
>>>> Does your tax money (yea, like YOU pay taxes) go to FOX?
>>>
>>> No, their second largest shareholder is Saudi Prince al-Walid bin
>>> Talal, number one is Rupert Murdoch, another foreigner.
>>
>> Did you know Murdoch has passports from 5 countries, one of them
>> China? LOL
>
> I assume you mean HKSAR .. a regular Chinese passport cannot co-exist
> with others as they don't recognize dual/multiple nationality.

Murdoch renounced his Australian citizenship.


--
John R. Carroll

deepdudu

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Feb 13, 2011, 8:41:22 AM2/13/11
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Do you think it's fair the ultra wealthy fund their propaganda machine
then claim it's all ok because it's "private funds"? And NPR is not
"left wing". And Fox is clearly full of the racists.

Shall not be infringed

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Feb 13, 2011, 9:12:29 AM2/13/11
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On Feb 13, 12:55 am, Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote:
> On 2/12/2011 11:35 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
>
> > <Deep Dudu>  wrote in messagenews:djgel65n90v59lbmh...@4ax.com...

>
> >> So I suppose you think Fox is fair and balanced factual reporting of
> >> the news?
>
> > Does your tax money (yea, like YOU pay taxes) go to FOX?
>
> No, their second largest shareholder is Saudi Prince al-Walid bin Talal,
> number one is Rupert Murdoch, another foreigner.

Do you consider Soros a foreigner? I wonder who's currency he will
crash next?

Shall not be infringed

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Feb 13, 2011, 9:13:07 AM2/13/11
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How many does 0bama have? LOL

Shall not be infringed

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Feb 13, 2011, 9:14:04 AM2/13/11
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How about Assange?

Shall not be infringed

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Feb 13, 2011, 9:15:00 AM2/13/11
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On Feb 13, 8:41 am, Deep Dudu wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 03:14:38 -0500, "Tom Gardner" <hd@hd> wrote:
>
> >"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
> >news:dqqdnWivwqCg78rQ...@giganews.com...
> >> On 2/12/2011 11:35 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
> >>> <Deep Dudu>  wrote in messagenews:djgel65n90v59lbmh...@4ax.com...

>
> >>>> So I suppose you think Fox is fair and balanced factual reporting of
> >>>> the news?
>
> >>> Does your tax money (yea, like YOU pay taxes) go to FOX?
>
> >> No, their second largest shareholder is Saudi Prince al-Walid bin Talal, number one
> >> is Rupert Murdoch, another foreigner.
>
> >And, what does that have to do with public funding of NPR?  Do you think that equal
> >tax money should go to some conservative, non-racist broadcaster?  Goose/Gander?
>
> Do you think it's fair the ultra wealthy fund their propaganda machine
> then claim it's all ok because it's "private funds"?  And NPR is not
> "left wing".  And Fox is clearly full of the racists.

NPR is clearly left wing.

Banned

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Feb 13, 2011, 9:28:52 AM2/13/11
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On Feb 12, 4:48 am, Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om>
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That is about the only good news I have heard out of the christian jew
cop government. PBS and NPR is only a puppet for the pope.
Bring the War Home. Death to the American Media

deepdudu

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Feb 13, 2011, 9:41:57 AM2/13/11
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Based on what? Be specific.

Beam Me Up Scotty

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Feb 13, 2011, 11:30:29 AM2/13/11
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Anyone who says NPR or PBS isn't Left-wing propaganda, is living in a
fantasy world.

Shall not be infringed

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Feb 13, 2011, 11:38:56 AM2/13/11
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On Feb 13, 9:41 am, Deep Dudu wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 06:15:00 -0800 (PST), Shall not be infringed
>

The endless stories of victims in America and around the world where
the government is the ONLY solution to people's problems.

The comment during a fundraiser on WCBE that money going to Air
America was rightly theirs.

Shall not be infringed

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Feb 13, 2011, 11:39:20 AM2/13/11
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On Feb 13, 11:30 am, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-

That goes without saying.

Shall not be infringed

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Feb 13, 2011, 11:41:03 AM2/13/11
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The yuppies and blue hairs have fallen on hard times. I don't think
they could support it without a government handout.

Shall not be infringed

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Feb 13, 2011, 11:43:44 AM2/13/11
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On Feb 12, 8:58 pm, "Stormin Mormon"

<cayoung61**spambloc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> YIPPEE!!!!!
>
> If the free market wants a bunch of  smooth talking liberals

Do you mean the effeminate sounding males or the gals with extra
hyphens in their last names?

> on the air, the public can pay for it. The Liberal Public
> Radio near me and Liberal Broadcasting System near me have
> fund drives nearly constantly. They can have bake sales like
> Dan, in Colorodo.

They would lose more money having to hire a cleanup crew afterwards.
Those libs are pretty messy.

Shall not be infringed

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Feb 13, 2011, 11:46:55 AM2/13/11
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If tehy were fair and balanced they wouldn't have such financial woes.

Shall not be infringed

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Feb 13, 2011, 11:48:07 AM2/13/11
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If the FCC started enforcing, most of the main stream media would be
shut down.

Thanks for asking.

Boris Kapusta

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Feb 13, 2011, 11:50:44 AM2/13/11
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I don't wish anything for Gunner, he'll manage just fine on his own.
Look for NPR and PBS to be the first casualties.

Boris Kapusta

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Feb 13, 2011, 11:53:04 AM2/13/11
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At least two that we know of.

Curly Surmudgeon

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Feb 13, 2011, 12:27:47 PM2/13/11
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Fact 1

In the mid-1980s, conservative media tycoon Rupert Murdoch abruptly
renounced his Australian birthright and became an American citizen. The
move allowed him to comply with U.S. law prohibiting foreign ownership of
television stations and helped Murdoch build a global entertainment
empire that now includes 22 U.S. TV stations, TV Guide magazine, the 20th
Century Fox movie studio and a huge U.S. broadcast network.

Fact 2

Today those U.S. subsidiaries provide Murdoch's company, News Corp., with
the vast majority of its revenue and profit. But through the deft use of
international accounting loopholes and offshore tax havens, all legal,
Murdoch has paid corporate income taxes at one-fifth the rate of his
chief U.S. rivals throughout the 1990s, according to corporate documents
and company officials.

Fact 3

News Corp.'s tax rate has averaged 5.7 percent in this decade, while
those of Walt Disney, Time Warner and Viacom have averaged from 27.2
percent to 32.5 percent.

Fact 4

News Corp. has mastered the use of the offshore tax haven. The company
reduces its annual tax bill by channeling profits through dozens of
subsidiaries in low-tax or no-tax places such as the Cayman Islands and
Bermuda. The overseas profits from movies made by 20th Century Fox, for
instance, flow into a News Corp.-controlled company in the Caymans, where
they are not taxed, according to an executive familiar with the operation.

Fact 5

If information is power, then News Corp. easily ranks as one of the most
powerful entities on the planet. No other media company can make the
claim that Murdoch's company now does: that it will soon have the means
to address more than 75 percent of the world's population simultaneously
through satellite, broadcast and cable TV entities it owns wholly or in
part.

Fact 6

The extent of News Corp.'s current tax shelter activities isn't publicly
available. But as of June, News Corp. listed more than 60 subsidiaries
incorporated in the Cayman Islands, Bermuda, the British Virgin Islands
and the Netherlands Antilles, all nations that have low or no corporate
taxes and limited financial disclosure laws.

Fact 7

In April 1995 President Clinton signed a Republican-sponsored tax-break
bill. More than 150 congressional Democrats and some of the president's
aides had recommended he issue the first veto of his presidency to reject
legislation that includes a multi-million-dollar tax break for media
giant Rupert Murdoch. That break was attached to legislation in the
Senate that reinstates and expands a tax deduction for self-employed
workers who buy their own health insurance. It permits them to deduct 25
percent of the cost of the premiums for 1994 and 30 percent this year.
Clinton said the legislation is "good for the country" because of the
health-care-insurance provision and for that reason he would sign it. But
several Democrats had argued that Congress would have stripped out the
Murdoch tax break if the president had vetoed it and insisted on a clean
extension of the insurance provision. Some House Democrats saw much
political potential in vetoing the legislation and blasting Republicans
for giving breaks to friends of House Speaker Newt Gingrich, R-Ga.
Gingrich has a book deal with Murdoch's publishing firm, Harper-Collins,
but he has said he opposed the break.

Fact 8

Shortly after the Republicans won a majority in the U.S. Congress, the
New York-based Harper Collins publishing company offered a $4.5 million
advance to Republican leader Newt Gingrich to write a book. The Harper
Collins publishing company happened to be owned by Rupert Murdoch, so the
deal provoked a big scandal, because the FCC was governed by the
Congress, which in turn was led by Newt Gingrich the second most
influential person after the President. Does it mean that the advance was
nothing but a bribe? Murdoch tried to play the same trick with Thatcher,
offering her a $5 million advance. The publication of the book caused
financial loss, but it gave Murdoch access to the political scene.
Murdoch claimed he knew nothing about the deal. Gingrich, in his turn,
said he had no idea that the Harper Collins publishing company belonged
to Murdoch. But later it became known that at the same time one of
Murdoch’s employees was preparing the book publication contract, Murdoch
and Gingrich “happened” to be talking about the annoying investigation.

http://www.youdebate.com/DEBATES/tax_rupert_murdoch.HTM

--
Regards, Curly
------------------------------------------------------------------------
"I'm a rodeo clown. It takes great skill." --Glenn Beck
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Curly Surmudgeon

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Feb 13, 2011, 12:29:41 PM2/13/11
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On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 04:27:51 -0800, "John R. Carroll"
<nunyab...@dev.null> wrote:

> Spehro Pefhany wrote:
>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 21:56:36 -0800, the renowned "John R. Carroll"
>> <nunyab...@dev.null> wrote:
>>
>>> Jeff M wrote:
>>>> On 2/12/2011 11:35 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
>>>>> <Deep Dudu> wrote in message
>>>>> news:djgel65n90v59lbmh...@4ax.com...
>>>>>> So I suppose you think Fox is fair and balanced factual reporting
>>>>>> of the news?
>>>>>
>>>>> Does your tax money (yea, like YOU pay taxes) go to FOX?
>>>>
>>>> No, their second largest shareholder is Saudi Prince al-Walid bin
>>>> Talal, number one is Rupert Murdoch, another foreigner.
>>>
>>> Did you know Murdoch has passports from 5 countries, one of them
>>> China? LOL
>>
>> I assume you mean HKSAR .. a regular Chinese passport cannot co-exist
>> with others as they don't recognize dual/multiple nationality.
>
> Murdoch renounced his Australian citizenship.

Rupert can buy it back when required.

Beam Me Up Scotty

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Feb 13, 2011, 12:40:10 PM2/13/11
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Where would Apple Computers and your iPod and iPad be if
government(Obama) were running Apple Computers instead of Steve Jobs.


Beam Me Up Scotty

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Feb 13, 2011, 1:02:08 PM2/13/11
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The FCC has no power to enforce content....

There is no power in the constitution for the Federal government to
limit either the Press or FREE SPEECH.

RD Sandman

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Deep Dudu wrote in news:djgel65n90v59lbmh...@4ax.com:

> On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 20:12:00 -0500, Beam Me Up Scotty
> <Then-Destro...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>>
>>>>>> So running a radio station is a critical function that only our
>>>>>> government can perform?
>>>>
>>>>>> I'm going to have to disagree with you on that.
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.npr.org/about/aboutnpr/publicradiofinances.html
>>>>
>>>> So then running them is not dependent on tax monies recieved. Good
>>>> to hear that. Another reason to remove that portion of their
>>>> funding and use it for something else. It would also free them up
>>>> from having to spout the same agenda as the government. Who knows,
>>>> they can even become their own version of talk radio.
>>>
>>> True story. Back when Air America was going, our local NPR station
>>> WCBE, was running one of their monthly fund raisers. The announcer
>>> said for listeners to send their money to WCBE, not Air America
>>> because that money was rightfully theirs (WCBE's).
>>>
>>> That of course, was the last time I ever sent money to Air NPR.
>>

>>One Giant Socialist conglomerate......


>
> So I suppose you think Fox is fair and balanced factual reporting of
> the news?
>

Would you care to say which *newscaster* at FOX is spewing lies? Do you
understand the difference between newscasters and political commentators?
Do you know the difference between FOX News Cnannel and your local Fox
Entertainment outlet with local news?

--
Sleep well tonight,

RD (The Sandman)

History shows that today's bailout will become
tomorrow's entitlement.

RD Sandman

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Feb 13, 2011, 1:20:48 PM2/13/11
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Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in
news:dqqdnWivwqCg78rQ...@giganews.com:

> On 2/12/2011 11:35 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
>> <Deep Dudu> wrote in message
>> news:djgel65n90v59lbmh...@4ax.com...
>>

>>> So I suppose you think Fox is fair and balanced factual reporting of
>>> the news?
>>

>> Does your tax money (yea, like YOU pay taxes) go to FOX?
>
> No, their second largest shareholder is Saudi Prince al-Walid bin
> Talal, number one is Rupert Murdoch, another foreigner.
>


Which question are you trying to answer, Jeff? The one about tax monies
or the one about reporting?

RD Sandman

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Feb 13, 2011, 1:22:22 PM2/13/11
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Deep Dudu wrote in news:0qnfl6tps43po8gs7...@4ax.com:

Yes, it is.

> And Fox is clearly full of the racists.

No, it isn't.

RD Sandman

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Feb 13, 2011, 1:23:23 PM2/13/11
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Deep Dudu wrote in news:4drfl65p82ajleohi...@4ax.com:

And Fox is full of racists? Based on what? Please be specific.

RD Sandman

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"Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61**spamblock##@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:ij7dtd$lp3$1...@news.eternal-september.org:

> YIPPEE!!!!!
>
> If the free market wants a bunch of smooth talking liberals

> on the air, the public can pay for it. The Liberal Public
> Radio near me and Liberal Broadcasting System near me have
> fund drives nearly constantly. They can have bake sales like
> Dan, in Colorodo.
>

They also get some money from taxes via NPR. It is not a large
percentage so that indicates to me that they don't need it. Let's use it
for something else.

--

Too_Many_Tools

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On Feb 13, 10:30 am, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-
> fantasy world.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Anyone who says Faux News isn't Right-wing propaganda, is living in a
fantasy world.

One with clowns...lots of them.

TMT

Too_Many_Tools

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On Feb 13, 10:41 am, Shall not be infringed <hot-ham-and-
> they could support it without a government handout.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Is that why levels of welfare are at their highest in Red States?

You boys might want to try working on reducing the number of births to
unwed conservative mothers too.

TMT

Too_Many_Tools

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On Feb 13, 10:46 am, Shall not be infringed <hot-ham-and-
> If tehy were fair and balanced they wouldn't have such financial woes.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

You might want to look into the financials...Faux affiliates are the
ones with the worst balance sheets.

TMT

Too_Many_Tools

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On Feb 13, 10:48 am, Shall not be infringed <hot-ham-and-
> Thanks for asking.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

LOL...better go check the outstanding issues with Faux with the FCC.

TMT

Too_Many_Tools

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> Look for NPR and PBS to be the first casualties.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Attempt to deflect the obvious noted.

TMT

Too_Many_Tools

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Feb 13, 2011, 3:47:33 PM2/13/11
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On Feb 13, 11:40 am, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-
> government(Obama) were running Apple Computers instead of Steve Jobs.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

We would all be using Apple products...and world would have never
known what a computer virus is.

TMT

Too_Many_Tools

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On Feb 13, 12:02 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-
> limit either the Press or FREE SPEECH.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Liar.

Go have your wife bare her breasts on local television and see what
happens.

TMT

Gray Ghost

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Feb 13, 2011, 3:48:17 PM2/13/11
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"John R. Carroll" <nunyab...@dev.null> wrote in
news:S9ednQtE3r8A78rQ...@giganews.com:

> Jeff M wrote:
>> On 2/12/2011 11:35 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
>>> <Deep Dudu> wrote in message
>>> news:djgel65n90v59lbmh...@4ax.com...
>>>> So I suppose you think Fox is fair and balanced factual reporting of
>>>> the news?
>>>
>>> Does your tax money (yea, like YOU pay taxes) go to FOX?
>>
>> No, their second largest shareholder is Saudi Prince al-Walid bin
>> Talal, number one is Rupert Murdoch, another foreigner.
>

> Did you know Murdoch has passports from 5 countries, one of them China?
> LOL
>
>

Not that I beleive you, but why does that matter to defunding NPR?

--
If all you are doing is accusing your opponenets of all sorts of infamy.
If all you are doing is dehumanizing conservatives, TEA Party members,
Republicans

You are not part of the solution,
You are not part of the problem.

You ARE the problem.

Gray Ghost

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Feb 13, 2011, 3:49:32 PM2/13/11
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"John R. Carroll" <nunyab...@dev.null> wrote in
news:fvCdnV1RLvnSU8rQ...@giganews.com:

> Spehro Pefhany wrote:


>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 21:56:36 -0800, the renowned "John R. Carroll"
>> <nunyab...@dev.null> wrote:
>>
>>> Jeff M wrote:
>>>> On 2/12/2011 11:35 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
>>>>> <Deep Dudu> wrote in message
>>>>> news:djgel65n90v59lbmh...@4ax.com...
>>>>>> So I suppose you think Fox is fair and balanced factual reporting
>>>>>> of the news?
>>>>>
>>>>> Does your tax money (yea, like YOU pay taxes) go to FOX?
>>>>
>>>> No, their second largest shareholder is Saudi Prince al-Walid bin
>>>> Talal, number one is Rupert Murdoch, another foreigner.
>>>
>>> Did you know Murdoch has passports from 5 countries, one of them
>>> China? LOL
>>

>> I assume you mean HKSAR .. a regular Chinese passport cannot co-exist
>> with others as they don't recognize dual/multiple nationality.
>
> Murdoch renounced his Australian citizenship.
>
>

Who wouldn't? Would you want to live on the same continent as Trevor Wilson
and Phil Smythe?

Gray Ghost

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Shall not be infringed <hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:b4f6f8ec-6643-4eef...@d23g2000prj.googlegroups.com:

> On Feb 13, 12:55 am, Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote:
>> On 2/12/2011 11:35 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
>>

>> > <Deep Dudu>  wrote in messagenews:djgel65n90v59lbmhv24sdca66sbd70bpo@


> 4ax.com...
>>
>> >> So I suppose you think Fox is fair and balanced factual reporting of
>> >> the news?
>>
>> > Does your tax money (yea, like YOU pay taxes) go to FOX?
>>
>> No, their second largest shareholder is Saudi Prince al-Walid bin Talal,
>> number one is Rupert Murdoch, another foreigner.
>

> Do you consider Soros a foreigner? I wonder who's currency he will
> crash next?
>

I consider Soros an enemy alien and a war criminal.

Too_Many_Tools

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On Feb 13, 11:27 am, Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySurmudg...@live.com>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

So the reality is that Faux News is being subsidized by the Government
via tax breaks.

Let's close those loopholes, put the revenue towards buying down the
National debt and see how Faux News fares.

They could always have Gleen Beck do bake sales on the air as a
fundraiser.

TMT

Gray Ghost

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Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destro...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote in
news:4D580725...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com:

> Anyone who says NPR or PBS isn't Left-wing propaganda, is living in a
> fantasy world.

Anyone who says NPR or PBS isn't Left-wing propaganda, is a Left-wing
propagandaist.

PrecisionmachinisT

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Feb 13, 2011, 3:57:57 PM2/13/11
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"Beam Me Up Scotty" <Then-Destro...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote in
message news:4D580725...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com...
> On 2/13/2011 9:15 AM, Shall not be infringed wrote:

>> On Feb 13, 8:41 am, Deep Dudu wrote:
>>> On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 03:14:38 -0500, "Tom Gardner" <hd@hd> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:dqqdnWivwqCg78rQ...@giganews.com...
>>>>> On 2/12/2011 11:35 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
>>>>>> <Deep Dudu> wrote in
>>>>>> messagenews:djgel65n90v59lbmh...@4ax.com...

>>>
>>>>>>> So I suppose you think Fox is fair and balanced factual reporting of
>>>>>>> the news?
>>>
>>>>>> Does your tax money (yea, like YOU pay taxes) go to FOX?
>>>
>>>>> No, their second largest shareholder is Saudi Prince al-Walid bin
>>>>> Talal, number one
>>>>> is Rupert Murdoch, another foreigner.
>>>
>>>> And, what does that have to do with public funding of NPR? Do you
>>>> think that equal
>>>> tax money should go to some conservative, non-racist broadcaster?
>>>> Goose/Gander?
>>>
>>> Do you think it's fair the ultra wealthy fund their propaganda machine
>>> then claim it's all ok because it's "private funds"? And NPR is not
>>> "left wing". And Fox is clearly full of the racists.
>>
>> NPR is clearly left wing.
>
> Anyone who says NPR or PBS isn't Left-wing propaganda, is living in a
> fantasy world.
>

http://www.npr.org/programs/weekend-edition-sunday/

==

http://www.npr.org/2011/02/13/133494531/chinas-go-to-typical-american-guy

"Jonathan Kos-Read, more popularly known as Caocao, has made a career out of
playing white guys in Chinese showbiz projects. The Los Angeles native and
fluent Mandarin speaker is a fixture on Chinese screens"

--Yup definately a huge dose of left wing communist progaganda...

==

http://www.npr.org/2011/02/13/133695623/budget-may-take-small-steps-toward-deficit-cuts

"President Obama's 2012 budget will include the administration's plans for
spending on new initiatives and dramatically cutting some programs. But
details are likely to be fuzzy when it comes to attacking the nation's huge
budget deficits"

Another steaming pile of socialist drivel...

==

http://www.npr.org/2011/02/13/133729668/Egypts-New-Challenge-The-Unknown

"Once the immediate euphoria over the resignation of Egyptian President
Hosni Mubarak has passed, some challenging questions about the future there
will have to be addressed. The popular revolution was a call for change, but
there are still too many uncertainties to know what shape that change will
take".

Yup those dirty commie bastards--should just belly up and accept that human
rights abuses and abject poverty are a simply the facts of life.

===

http://www.npr.org/2011/02/13/133690421/this-valentines-day-a-sweet-look-at-almost-love

"This Valentine's Day, the New York City Transit Museum is celebrating the
art of "Missed Connections" with original drawings and paintings by Sophie
Blackall. Her own book of Missed Connections art will come out later this
year".

--Left wing baby killers once again busy corrupting our youth yup yup..

===

http://www.npr.org/2011/02/13/133729684/Other-Arab-Nations-Take-A-Cue-From-Egypt

"Arab leaders from the Persian Gulf to the Levant are responding to the fall
of longstanding regimes in Egypt and Tunisia. So are their populations.
Thousands are protesting in Algeria and Yemen, while leaders in Jordan,
Syria and Bahrain are moving to head off public unrest"

--Protesters should be shot on site, end of problem....


===

http://www.npr.org/2011/02/13/133692701/buyers-face-gamble-with-rising-mortgage-rates

"In November, the average rate slipped to a 40-year low of 4.17 percent.
Today, it's just over 5 percent, and concerns are growing that rates will
keep rising - enough to scare away potential buyers. It's at least enough to
make those buyers rethink the advantages of homeownership"

--All part of a secret liberal plot aimed at taking away your guns...


===

http://www.npr.org/2011/02/13/133715765/deaf-teams-standout-season-draws-cheers

"It's not until the team huddles that you notice anything different about
Gallaudet University's Lady Bison. The university is the premier school for
deaf students. Its basketball team competes against mainstream - hearing -
teams, and this year, it's making a surprise run up the national rankings"

--Another hours worth of non-stop socialist propaganda...

===

http://www.npr.org/2011/02/13/133686644/an-immigrants-quest-for-identity-in-the-open-city

"Teju Cole's debut novel, Open City, follows Julius, a half-Nigerian and
half-German doctor, as he wanders the streets of New York. Julius struggles
to understand his identity as an immigrant, an experience the author himself
is familiar with".

Another Libtard immigrant espousing the merits of Communism--we should just
round up all imigrants send em to mexico let them figure it out down there.

===

http://www.npr.org/2011/02/13/133690130/graham-reynolds-re-imagined-portraits-of-duke-ellington

"Taking on Duke Ellington's music is a daunting task for most composers, but
for Graham Reynolds, it was a rewarding journey. On his new album, DUKE!
Three Portraits of Ellington, jazz standards are perfomed by a big band, by
a string quartet - and remixed by DJs."

--Pure unadulterated left wing nonsense...

--


Gray Ghost

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Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:c9d91c7f-c386-42e8-
af18-ea7...@d28g2000yqc.googlegroups.com:

>> place.- Hide quoted text -


>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>

> Be careful what you wish for Gummer.
>
> If the FCC starts enforcing, Faux News and its stable of conservative
> clowns is in big trouble.
>
> TMT
>

If the FCC starts enforcing and chokes off the opposition media then it
will be go time. Are you ready?

Gray Ghost

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Feb 13, 2011, 3:59:25 PM2/13/11
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Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destro...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote in
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Which is why it will be go time if they do it.

Curly Surmudgeon

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On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 12:45:08 -0800, Too_Many_Tools
<too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> I don't wish anything for Gunner, he'll manage just fine on his own.

Without welfare Gummer would be dead.

Actually that is a good argument for abolishing welfare...

--
Regards, Curly
------------------------------------------------------------------------
"I say on the air all time, "if you take what I say as gospel,
you're an idiot." --Glenn Beck
------------------------------------------------------------------------

PrecisionmachinisT

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"Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7767f6c6-2b3d-498a...@x13g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...


> So the reality is that Faux News is being subsidized by the Government
> via tax breaks.

The reality is that through Fox News, Rupert Murdoch and the royal Saudi
family are getting rich and at the same time are avoiding taxation..

--


Gray Ghost

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Feb 13, 2011, 5:14:33 PM2/13/11
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"PrecisionmachinisT" <123mac...@notmail.com> wrote in
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Good for them!

ne...@nowhere.org

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Feb 13, 2011, 5:27:40 PM2/13/11
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On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 16:14:33 -0600, Gray Ghost
<grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>"PrecisionmachinisT" <123mac...@notmail.com> wrote in
>news:QMOdnSMSZ9qPyMXQ...@scnresearch.com:
>
>>
>> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:7767f6c6-2b3d-498a...@x13g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>> So the reality is that Faux News is being subsidized by the Government
>>> via tax breaks.
>>
>> The reality is that through Fox News, Rupert Murdoch and the royal Saudi
>> family are getting rich and at the same time are avoiding taxation..
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>
>Good for them!

Ploink

Might want to rethink who you converse with. Remember that old adage
about arguing with fools?

Newb

RD Sandman

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Feb 13, 2011, 5:57:27 PM2/13/11
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>

> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> news:7767f6c6-2b3d-498a-8596-02d9f77f0984


@x13g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>> So the reality is that Faux News is being subsidized by the Government
>> via tax breaks.
>
> The reality is that through Fox News, Rupert Murdoch and the royal
Saudi
> family are getting rich and at the same time are avoiding taxation..

Hmmmm, they must think that they are George Soros.

Boris Kapusta

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Feb 13, 2011, 7:23:18 PM2/13/11
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LOL, and even after the government bribes you still can't get them to
vote for a democrat. Why do you suppose that is?

Boris Kapusta

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The obvious is that you are a moron. Who's deflecting?

Boris Kapusta

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Feb 13, 2011, 7:27:19 PM2/13/11
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On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 21:26:15 +0000 (UTC), Curly Surmudgeon
<CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 12:45:08 -0800, Too_Many_Tools
><too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> I don't wish anything for Gunner, he'll manage just fine on his own.
>
>Without welfare Gummer would be dead.

Actually we don't know that as fact, however welfare is too easy to
get it would seem.


>
>Actually that is a good argument for abolishing welfare...

I'm all for it but how would your kind survive?


Boris Kapusta

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On Feb 13, 11:40�am, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-
Everyth...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:

> Where would Apple Computers and your iPod and iPad be if
> government(Obama) were running Apple Computers instead of Steve Jobs.

Obama would be offering a free iPad with every purchase of a Chevy
Cobalt.


Boris Kapusta

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Feb 13, 2011, 7:36:52 PM2/13/11
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On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 16:14:33 -0600, Gray Ghost
<grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>"PrecisionmachinisT" <123mac...@notmail.com> wrote in
>news:QMOdnSMSZ9qPyMXQ...@scnresearch.com:
>
>>
>> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:7767f6c6-2b3d-498a...@x13g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>> So the reality is that Faux News is being subsidized by the Government
>>> via tax breaks.
>>
>> The reality is that through Fox News, Rupert Murdoch and the royal Saudi
>> family are getting rich and at the same time are avoiding taxation..
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>
>Good for them!

Anytime a libtard and their money is parted, I'm all for it!

Too_Many_Tools

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Feb 13, 2011, 8:56:54 PM2/13/11
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On Feb 13, 2:55 pm, Gray Ghost <grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-Everyth...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote innews:4D580725...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com:

>
> > Anyone who says NPR or PBS isn't Left-wing propaganda, is living in a
> > fantasy world.
>
> Anyone who says NPR or PBS isn't Left-wing propaganda, is a Left-wing
> propagandaist.
>
> --
> If all you are doing is accusing your opponenets of all sorts of infamy.
> If all you are doing is dehumanizing conservatives, TEA Party members,
> Republicans
>
> You are not part of the solution,
> You are not part of the problem.
>
> You ARE the problem.

Anyone who says Faux News isn't Right-wing propaganda, is a Right-wing
propagandist.

Note that the conservative Gray Gonads spelled "propagandist"
incorrectly...the likely result of a home school education where it is
taught that early Christians rode dinosaurs and God created NASCAR on
the seventh day.

TMT

Too_Many_Tools

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Feb 13, 2011, 9:03:04 PM2/13/11
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On Feb 13, 2:58 pm, Gray Ghost <grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:c9d91c7f-c386-42e8-
> af18-ea78830d9...@d28g2000yqc.googlegroups.com:
> You ARE the problem.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Go time?

Your mind left the building long ago with Elvis.

Laugh..laugh..laugh..

If Faux can't toe the line, their licenses can easily be pulled.

Happens all the time.

Over the years, I have seen a number of Faux stations go down...and I
laughed and laughed and laughed.

TMT

TMT

Too_Many_Tools

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Feb 13, 2011, 9:05:23 PM2/13/11
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On Feb 13, 2:59 pm, Gray Ghost <grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-Everyth...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote innews:4D581CA0...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com:
> You ARE the problem.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

There is that "go time" BS again.

Being that you can't get off your butt most of the time, where do you
think you will "go" when the "time" comes....to the toilet?

Don't forget to bring the keyboard with you...

TMT

Too_Many_Tools

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Feb 13, 2011, 9:09:00 PM2/13/11
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On Feb 13, 3:26 pm, Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySurmudg...@live.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 12:45:08 -0800, Too_Many_Tools
>
> <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> I don't wish anything for Gunner, he'll manage just fine on his own.
>
> Without welfare Gummer would be dead.
>
> Actually that is a good argument for abolishing welfare...
>
> --
> Regards, Curly
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     "I say on the air all time, "if you take what I say as gospel,
>                 you're an idiot."  --Glenn Beck
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

And a dog would be alive...

Another good reason to limit welfare to parasitical conservatives.

TMT

Too_Many_Tools

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Feb 13, 2011, 9:13:12 PM2/13/11
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On Feb 13, 4:14 pm, Gray Ghost <grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> "PrecisionmachinisT" <123machin...@notmail.com> wrote innews:QMOdnSMSZ9qPyMXQ...@scnresearch.com:
>
>
>
> > "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> >news:7767f6c6-2b3d-498a...@x13g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> So the reality is that Faux News is being subsidized by the Government
> >> via tax breaks.
>
> > The reality is that through Fox News, Rupert Murdoch and the royal Saudi
> > family are getting rich and at the same time are avoiding taxation..
>
> > --  
>
> Good for them!
>
> --
> If all you are doing is accusing your opponenets of all sorts of infamy.
> If all you are doing is dehumanizing conservatives, TEA Party members,
> Republicans
>
> You are not part of the solution,
> You are not part of the problem.
>
> You ARE the problem.

So you are saying that you APPROVE of tax dollars to support
media...which is what is happening with Faux News.

So then it follows that PBS/NPR support is justified.

Odd that Faux News secures its funding by gaming the system while PBS/
NPR do it in an open manner.

I guess conservatives just cheat by nature.

TMT

Too_Many_Tools

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> vote for a democrat. Why do you suppose that is?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Actually the young ones do...and they shake their heads about their
stupid redneck conservative parents.

Kind of like how your kids behave when you are not looking.

TMT

Too_Many_Tools

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On Feb 13, 6:24 pm, Boris Kapusta <tha...@nothanks.notreal> wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 12:45:08 -0800 (PST), Too_Many_Tools
>
>
>
>
>
> The obvious is that you are a moron. Who's deflecting?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Another attempt to deflect the obvious noted...how's your job search
going Gummer?

TMT

Too_Many_Tools

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Feb 13, 2011, 9:20:05 PM2/13/11
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On Feb 13, 6:27 pm, Boris Kapusta <tha...@nothanks.notreal> wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 21:26:15 +0000 (UTC), Curly Surmudgeon
>
> <CurlySurmudg...@live.com> wrote:
> >On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 12:45:08 -0800, Too_Many_Tools
> ><too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>> I don't wish anything for Gunner, he'll manage just fine on his own.
>
> >Without welfare Gummer would be dead.
>
> Actually we don't know that as fact, however welfare is too easy to
> get it would seem.
>
>
>
> >Actually that is a good argument for abolishing welfare...
>
> I'm all for it but how would your kind survive?

Yes we do...Gummer has bragged how he has used welfare to avoid paying
his way.

A conservative ...a parasitical conservative...is the norm..not the
exception.

We have already deduced that you are another conservative on
welfare. ;<)

Your postings have given you away.

TMT

Too_Many_Tools

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On Feb 13, 6:36 pm, Boris Kapusta <tha...@nothanks.notreal> wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 16:14:33 -0600, Gray Ghost
>
>
>
>
>
> <grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >"PrecisionmachinisT" <123machin...@notmail.com> wrote in
> >news:QMOdnSMSZ9qPyMXQ...@scnresearch.com:
>
> >> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> >>news:7767f6c6-2b3d-498a...@x13g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>> So the reality is that Faux News is being subsidized by the Government
> >>> via tax breaks.
>
> >> The reality is that through Fox News, Rupert Murdoch and the royal Saudi
> >> family are getting rich and at the same time are avoiding taxation..
>
> >> --  
>
> >Good for them!
>
> Anytime  a libtard and their money is parted, I'm all for it!- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Anytime a conservative and their money is parted, Sarah Palin
giggles..and pees a little.

TMT

Curly Surmudgeon

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Too_Many_Tools

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Feb 13, 2011, 10:34:30 PM2/13/11
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On Feb 13, 2:48 pm, Gray Ghost <grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> "John R. Carroll" <nunyabidn...@dev.null> wrote innews:S9ednQtE3r8A78rQ...@giganews.com:

>
>
>
>
>
> > Jeff M wrote:
> >> On 2/12/2011 11:35 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
> >>> <Deep Dudu>  wrote in message
> >>>news:djgel65n90v59lbmh...@4ax.com...
> >>>> So I suppose you think Fox is fair and balanced factual reporting of
> >>>> the news?
>
> >>> Does your tax money (yea, like YOU pay taxes) go to FOX?
>
> >> No, their second largest shareholder is Saudi Prince al-Walid bin
> >> Talal, number one is Rupert Murdoch, another foreigner.
>
> > Did you know Murdoch has passports from 5 countries, one of them China?
> > LOL
>
> Not that I beleive you, but why does that matter to defunding NPR?

>
> --
> If all you are doing is accusing your opponenets of all sorts of infamy.
> If all you are doing is dehumanizing conservatives, TEA Party members,
> Republicans
>
> You are not part of the solution,
> You are not part of the problem.
>
> You ARE the problem.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

So as a conservative..and I assume an American...you condone having a
non American to game the tax system to fund his businesses by your tax
dollars.

And then you have the gall to bitch about the Federal deficit?

What a freaking hypocrite.

TMT

Too_Many_Tools

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On Feb 13, 2:49 pm, Gray Ghost <grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> "John R. Carroll" <nunyabidn...@dev.null> wrote innews:fvCdnV1RLvnSU8rQ...@giganews.com:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Spehro Pefhany wrote:

> >> On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 21:56:36 -0800, the renowned "John R. Carroll"
> >> <nunyabidn...@dev.null> wrote:
>
> >>> Jeff M wrote:
> >>>> On 2/12/2011 11:35 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
> >>>>> <Deep Dudu>  wrote in message
> >>>>>news:djgel65n90v59lbmh...@4ax.com...
> >>>>>> So I suppose you think Fox is fair and balanced factual reporting
> >>>>>> of the news?
>
> >>>>> Does your tax money (yea, like YOU pay taxes) go to FOX?
>
> >>>> No, their second largest shareholder is Saudi Prince al-Walid bin
> >>>> Talal, number one is Rupert Murdoch, another foreigner.
>
> >>> Did you know Murdoch has passports from 5 countries, one of them
> >>> China? LOL
>
> >> I assume you mean HKSAR .. a regular Chinese passport cannot co-exist
> >> with others as they don't recognize dual/multiple nationality.
>
> > Murdoch renounced his Australian citizenship.
>
> Who wouldn't? Would you want to live on the same continent as Trevor Wilson
> and Phil Smythe?

>
> --
> If all you are doing is accusing your opponenets of all sorts of infamy.
> If all you are doing is dehumanizing conservatives, TEA Party members,
> Republicans
>
> You are not part of the solution,
> You are not part of the problem.
>
> You ARE the problem.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I take it that you have never been there...too bad...it is a beautiful
country.

Too bad conservatives worry about their navel instead of traveling the
world.

TMT

Too_Many_Tools

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On Feb 13, 2:51 pm, Gray Ghost <grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Shall not be infringed <hot-ham-and-che...@hotmail.com> wrote innews:b4f6f8ec-6643-4eef...@d23g2000prj.googlegroups.com:

>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 13, 12:55 am, Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote:
> >> On 2/12/2011 11:35 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
>
> >> > <Deep Dudu>  wrote in messagenews:djgel65n90v59lbmhv24sdca66sbd70bpo@

> > 4ax.com...
>
> >> >> So I suppose you think Fox is fair and balanced factual reporting of
> >> >> the news?
>
> >> > Does your tax money (yea, like YOU pay taxes) go to FOX?
>
> >> No, their second largest shareholder is Saudi Prince al-Walid bin Talal,
> >> number one is Rupert Murdoch, another foreigner.
>
> > Do you consider Soros a foreigner?  I wonder who's currency he will
> > crash next?
>
> I consider Soros an enemy alien and a war criminal.

>
> --
> If all you are doing is accusing your opponenets of all sorts of infamy.
> If all you are doing is dehumanizing conservatives, TEA Party members,
> Republicans
>
> You are not part of the solution,
> You are not part of the problem.
>
> You ARE the problem.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

You mean like George Bush and Dick Cheney?

TMT

deepdudu

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Feb 14, 2011, 7:25:39 AM2/14/11
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On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 08:38:56 -0800 (PST), Shall not be infringed
<hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Feb 13, 9:41�am, Deep Dudu wrote:
>> On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 06:15:00 -0800 (PST), Shall not be infringed
>>
>> <hot-ham-and-che...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Feb 13, 8:41 am, Deep Dudu wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 03:14:38 -0500, "Tom Gardner" <hd@hd> wrote:
>>
>> >> >"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
>> >> >news:dqqdnWivwqCg78rQ...@giganews.com...


>> >> >> On 2/12/2011 11:35 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:

>> >> >>> <Deep Dudu> wrote in messagenews:djgel65n90v59lbmh...@4ax.com...


>>
>> >> >>>> So I suppose you think Fox is fair and balanced factual reporting of
>> >> >>>> the news?
>>
>> >> >>> Does your tax money (yea, like YOU pay taxes) go to FOX?
>>
>> >> >> No, their second largest shareholder is Saudi Prince al-Walid bin Talal, number one
>> >> >> is Rupert Murdoch, another foreigner.
>>

>> >> >And, what does that have to do with public funding of NPR? Do you think that equal
>> >> >tax money should go to some conservative, non-racist broadcaster? Goose/Gander?
>>
>> >> Do you think it's fair the ultra wealthy fund their propaganda machine
>> >> then claim it's all ok because it's "private funds"? And NPR is not
>> >> "left wing". And Fox is clearly full of the racists.
>>
>> >NPR is clearly left wing.
>>
>> Based on what? �Be specific.
>
>The endless stories of victims in America and around the world where
>the government is the ONLY solution to people's problems.
>
>The comment during a fundraiser on WCBE that money going to Air
>America was rightly theirs.

You didn't answer the question.

Beam Me Up Scotty

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Feb 14, 2011, 9:45:13 AM2/14/11
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Yes but both would have a giant SHUT-OFF switch connected to the White
House.


Both would cost twice what they were worth, so Obama could give away
free ones in his redistribution and there would be a law that forces
every person in America to buy them or be jailed for tax evasion.


Both would work only half the time, because they'll only run on green
energy.


Beam Me Up Scotty

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Feb 14, 2011, 11:37:38 AM2/14/11
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> "PrecisionmachinisT" <123mac...@notmail.com> wrote in
> news:QMOdnSMSZ9qPyMXQ...@scnresearch.com:
>
>>
>> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:7767f6c6-2b3d-498a...@x13g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>> So the reality is that Faux News is being subsidized by the Government
>>> via tax breaks.
>>
>> The reality is that through Fox News, Rupert Murdoch and the royal Saudi
>> family are getting rich and at the same time are avoiding taxation..


And we know Liberals love the present "progressive income tax" taxation
scheme.....


The rich say it's unfair and the the Liberals say it's unfair.


But the Liberals want unfair.


Beam Me Up Scotty

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Feb 14, 2011, 11:48:30 AM2/14/11
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On 2/13/2011 3:51 PM, Gray Ghost wrote:
> Shall not be infringed <hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:b4f6f8ec-6643-4eef...@d23g2000prj.googlegroups.com:
>
>> On Feb 13, 12:55 am, Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote:
>>> On 2/12/2011 11:35 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
>>>
>>>> <Deep Dudu> wrote in messagenews:djgel65n90v59lbmhv24sdca66sbd70bpo@

>> 4ax.com...
>>>
>>>>> So I suppose you think Fox is fair and balanced factual reporting of
>>>>> the news?
>>>
>>>> Does your tax money (yea, like YOU pay taxes) go to FOX?
>>>
>>> No, their second largest shareholder is Saudi Prince al-Walid bin Talal,
>>> number one is Rupert Murdoch, another foreigner.
>>
>> Do you consider Soros a foreigner? I wonder who's currency he will
>> crash next?
>>
>
> I consider Soros an enemy alien and a war criminal.
>

I consider him a meddling old fool and a worthless waste of a human life.

Beam Me Up Scotty

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Feb 14, 2011, 11:52:37 AM2/14/11
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On 2/13/2011 3:40 PM, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
> On Feb 13, 10:30 am, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-
> Everyth...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:

>> On 2/13/2011 9:15 AM, Shall not be infringed wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 13, 8:41 am, Deep Dudu wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 03:14:38 -0500, "Tom Gardner" <hd@hd> wrote:
>>
>>>>> "Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote in message
>>>>> news:dqqdnWivwqCg78rQ...@giganews.com...
>>>>>> On 2/12/2011 11:35 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
>>>>>>> <Deep Dudu> wrote in messagenews:djgel65n90v59lbmh...@4ax.com...

>>
>>>>>>>> So I suppose you think Fox is fair and balanced factual reporting of
>>>>>>>> the news?
>>
>>>>>>> Does your tax money (yea, like YOU pay taxes) go to FOX?
>>
>>>>>> No, their second largest shareholder is Saudi Prince al-Walid bin Talal, number one
>>>>>> is Rupert Murdoch, another foreigner.
>>
>>>>> And, what does that have to do with public funding of NPR? Do you think that equal
>>>>> tax money should go to some conservative, non-racist broadcaster? Goose/Gander?
>>
>>>> Do you think it's fair the ultra wealthy fund their propaganda machine
>>>> then claim it's all ok because it's "private funds"? And NPR is not
>>>> "left wing". And Fox is clearly full of the racists.
>>
>>> NPR is clearly left wing.
>>
>> Anyone who says NPR or PBS isn't Left-wing propaganda, is living in a
>> fantasy world.- Hide quoted text -

>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Anyone who says Faux News isn't Right-wing propaganda, is living in a
> fantasy world.
>
> One with clowns...lots of them.
>
> TMT


...NOT where BIG purple dinosaurs and 6ft yellow Birds live?

But in a world where the HamBurglar is evil and the CookieMonster is a
Saint?

Too_Many_Tools

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Feb 14, 2011, 3:40:03 PM2/14/11
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On Feb 14, 10:52 am, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-
> Saint?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Have you taken the time to watch the children's offerings on Faux
versus PBS?

Or do you just post on Usenet while your kids run wild over the
neighborhood like most rednecks do?

TMT

Basement Bandy

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Feb 14, 2011, 4:01:43 PM2/14/11
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On Feb 13, 11:50 am, Boris Kapusta <tha...@nothanks.notreal> wrote:
>
> I don't wish anything for Gunner, he'll manage just fine on his own.
> Look for NPR and PBS to be the first casualties.

NPR (National Public Radio) depends upon only a speck of federal
funding.

(Its Lion's share comes from non-profit and private. Drug Rush and
Fux News give NPR so much hostile notoriety that "normal" people are
already falling all over themselves trying to send in contributions)

Scout

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Feb 14, 2011, 4:07:24 PM2/14/11
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So clearly the GOP was right and federal funding of NPR was a waste of tax
payer money.

So now that we've established they were right to cut the federal
funding.....


deepdudu

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Feb 14, 2011, 4:57:58 PM2/14/11
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:07:24 -0500, "Scout"
<me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:

>Basement Bandy wrote:
>> On Feb 13, 11:50 am, Boris Kapusta <tha...@nothanks.notreal> wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't wish anything for Gunner, he'll manage just fine on his own.
>>> Look for NPR and PBS to be the first casualties.
>>
>> NPR (National Public Radio) depends upon only a speck of federal
>> funding.
>>
>> (Its Lion's share comes from non-profit and private. Drug Rush and
>> Fux News give NPR so much hostile notoriety that "normal" people are
>> already falling all over themselves trying to send in contributions)
>
>So clearly the GOP was right and federal funding of NPR was a waste of tax
>payer money.

Wow. Where did you get that crap load?

>
>So now that we've established they were right to cut the federal
>funding.....
>

The Republican's obsession with cutting overthing that helps regular
middle class and poor Americans has nothing to do with cutting the
deficit and everything to do with an idealogical war to force their
greed, corruption, and puritanicalism on the rest of the population.
If they really cared about cutting the deficit they would be cutting
the two biggest wastes of all: the military and tax breaks and
loopholes for the wealthy so they don't pay any taxes on most of their
wealth.

Shall not be infringed

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Feb 14, 2011, 7:16:30 PM2/14/11
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> TMT-

I have traveled the world... with an M16.

Shall not be infringed

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Feb 14, 2011, 7:17:39 PM2/14/11
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On Feb 14, 7:25 am, Deep Dudu wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 08:38:56 -0800 (PST), Shall not be infringed
>
>
>
>
>
> You didn't answer the question.-

I did. Twice. Way above and above.

Shall not be infringed

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Feb 14, 2011, 7:24:32 PM2/14/11
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On Feb 13, 3:55 pm, Gray Ghost <grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-Everyth...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote innews:4D580725...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com:

>
> > Anyone who says NPR or PBS isn't Left-wing propaganda, is living in a
> > fantasy world.
>
> Anyone who says NPR or PBS isn't Left-wing propaganda, is a Left-wing
> propagandaist.

That's how I see it.

Shall not be infringed

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Feb 14, 2011, 7:35:12 PM2/14/11
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On Feb 13, 3:41 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Feb 13, 10:41 am, Shall not be infringed <hot-ham-and-
>
>
>
>
>
> che...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Feb 12, 9:32 pm, Boris Kapusta <tha...@nothanks.notreal> wrote:
>
> > > On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 16:40:49 -0800 (PST), Shall not be infringed

>
> > > <hot-ham-and-che...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >On Feb 12, 4:36 pm, RD Sandman <rdsandman@comcast[remove].net> wrote:
> > > >> Jim Wilkins <kb1...@gmail.com> wrote innews:efa50a9d-53d4-456a...@s11g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:
>
> > > >> > On Feb 12, 3:22 pm, Shall not be infringed <hot-ham-and-
> > > >> > che...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >> On Feb 12, 4:48 am, Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om>

> > > >> >> wrote:
>
> > > >> >> > "The Republicans just released their budget proposal, and it
> > > >> >> > zeroes
> > > >> > out
> > > >> >> > funding for both NPR and PBS the worst proposal in more than a
> > > >> >> > decade
> > > >> > ."
>
> > > >> >> I think it's a wonderful proposal.
>
> > > >> >> >http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/11/opinion/11fri1.html?_r=1
> > > >> >> > "Beyond Reason on the Budget," The New York Times, February 10,
> > > >> >> > 201
> > > >> > 1
> > > >> >> > [
> > > >> >> > After two years of raging at President Obama s spending plans,
> > > >> >> > House
> > > >> > Republican
> > > >> >> > leaders have finally revealed their real vision of small
> > > >> >> > government: te
> > > >> > ns of
> > > >> >> > billions in ideologically driven cuts to job training,
> > > >> >> > environmental pr
> > > >> > otection,
> > > >> >> > disease control, crime protection and dozens of other critical
> > > >> >> > function
> > > >> > s that
> > > >> >> > only the government can perform.
> > > >> >> > ....
> > > >> >> > ]
>
> > > >> >> So running a radio station is a critical function that only our
> > > >> >> government can perform?
>
> > > >> >> I'm going to have to disagree with you on that.
>
> > > >> >http://www.npr.org/about/aboutnpr/publicradiofinances.html
>
> > > >> So then running them is not dependent on tax monies recieved. Good to
> > > >> hear that. Another reason to remove that portion of their funding and
> > > >> use it for something else. It would also free them up from having to
> > > >> spout the same agenda as the government. Who knows, they can even become
> > > >> their own version of talk radio.
>
> > > >True story.  Back when Air America was going, our local NPR station
> > > >WCBE, was running one of their monthly fund raisers.  The announcer
> > > >said for listeners to send their money to WCBE, not Air America
> > > >because that money was rightfully theirs (WCBE's).
>
> > > >That of course, was the last time I ever sent money to Air NPR.
>
> > > You misspelled Err.  NPR should go to a pay-per-view type format.
>
> > The yuppies and blue hairs have fallen on hard times.  I don't think
> > they could support it without a government handout.- Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Is that why levels of welfare are at their highest in Red States?

Yep, red states have NPR and PBS too, but not for long.

Shall not be infringed

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Feb 14, 2011, 7:39:40 PM2/14/11
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On Feb 13, 3:48 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Feb 13, 12:02 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-
>
>
>
>
>
> Everyth...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:
> > On 2/13/2011 11:48 AM, Shall not be infringed wrote:

>
> > > On Feb 13, 5:40 am, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> On Feb 13, 1:12 am, Boris Kapusta <tha...@nothanks.notreal> wrote:
>
> > >>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 21:57:25 -0800 (PST), Too_Many_Tools
>
> > >>> <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >>>> On Feb 12, 3:48 am, Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om>

> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>> "The Republicans just released their budget proposal, and it zeroes out
> > >>>>> funding for both NPR and PBS the worst proposal in more than a decade."
>
> > >>>>>http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/11/opinion/11fri1.html?_r=1
> > >>>>> "Beyond Reason on the Budget," The New York Times, February 10, 2011
> > >>>>> [
> > >>>>> After two years of raging at President Obama s spending plans, House Republican
> > >>>>> leaders have finally revealed their real vision of small government: tens of

> > >>>>> billions in ideologically driven cuts to job training, environmental protection,
> > >>>>> disease control, crime protection and dozens of other critical functions that

> > >>>>> only the government can perform.
> > >>>>> ....
> > >>>>> ]
>
> > >>>> Seems conservatives can't handle "fair and balanced" news reporting..
>
> > >>>> Hypocrites.
>
> > >>>> TMT
>
> > >>> Let the savings begin!
> > >>> The time has arrived to begin restoring our country to its rightful
> > >>> place.- Hide quoted text -

>
> > >>> - Show quoted text -
>
> > >> Be careful what you wish for Gummer.
>
> > >> If the FCC starts enforcing, Faux News and its stable of conservative
> > >> clowns is in big trouble.
>
> > >> TMT
>
> > > If the FCC started enforcing, most of the main stream media would be
> > > shut down.
>
> > The FCC has no power to enforce content....
>
> > There is no power in the constitution for the Federal government to
> > limit either the Press or FREE SPEECH.- Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Liar.
>
> Go have your wife bare her breasts on local television and see what
> happens.
>
> TMT

Just tell us what happened when your moms bared their breasts in that
parade.

deepdudu

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Feb 14, 2011, 7:42:32 PM2/14/11
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Liar. You make vague comments about "endless stories" yet didn't
quote one single one or attempt to explain why it "leftist". You
ain't got nothin' as usual.

Bert Hyman

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Feb 14, 2011, 8:05:39 PM2/14/11
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In
news:00e582cd-cb09-4291...@s29g2000pra.googlegroups.com
Basement Bandy <walter_...@post.com> wrote:

> NPR (National Public Radio) depends upon only a speck of federal
> funding.

"Congress will take a critical vote in the next few days to eliminate
all federal funding for public television and radio stations, including
$4 million for Minnesota Public Radio. If this happens, it means the end
of public broadcasting as we know it."

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/support/now/

"Congress is now considering complete elimination of funding for public
broadcasting. If approved, this loss of funding would seriously impact
our service to you."

http://www.tpt.org/?a=advocates

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@iphouse.com

Boris Kapusta

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Feb 14, 2011, 8:20:42 PM2/14/11
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Curls thinks I'm Brian, so that makes both of you wrong. Libtard
imbeciles.

Boris Kapusta

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Feb 14, 2011, 8:24:11 PM2/14/11
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 12:40:03 -0800 (PST), Too_Many_Tools
<too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>Have you taken the time to watch the children's offerings on Faux
>versus PBS?
>
>Or do you just post on Usenet while your kids run wild over the
>neighborhood like most rednecks do?
>
>TMT

This liberal stupidity was brought to you by the number 7.

Gray Ghost

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Feb 14, 2011, 9:04:36 PM2/14/11
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Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:c198dcb1-a06b-43a8-
a545-35c...@d16g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:

> On Feb 13, 2:49�pm, Gray Ghost <grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>> "John R. Carroll" <nunyabidn...@dev.null> wrote

innews:fvCdnV1RLvnSU8rQnZ
> 2dnUVZ5...@giganews.com:

You should have stayed there.

>
> Too bad conservatives worry about their navel instead of traveling the
> world.
>
> TMT

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