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TheAlligator

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Jan 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/4/00
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VERY poor forgery there Ryan, my little windsock!
You should be more careful, you don't even use the
same software, plus a few other obvious clues.
We too know how to use abuse@whatever. Let me promise you,
forgery will get you the instant boot. What is it with
you. I've gone back to read some of your posts, and you
seem normal, almost likeable. I mean, can we talk to
your other personality, or did he split? I don't killfile you
like others because I find you entertaining, and I'd
like to see this through until we find the real Ryan.

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Sarge 6

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Gunner wrote:

> Hello, friends. Since 1977 the North American Man Boy Love Association
> (NAMBLA) has fought hard for the rights of a group in our society that has
> been persecuted relentlessly.
>
> I would like feed back from the group about opening a disscussion group for
> this controversial segment of society. Please show your support.
>
> Gunner.

Total waste of time Ryan, When Your Mommie gets home from
entertaining the 7th fleet and finds out You have been trolling newsgroups
instead of selling blowjobs to buy her daily crack ration, She's going to be
very upset.
And by the way, did She ever find Your father?
What was His name again? Trick? John? something like that I'm sure.


phat mike

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my, my.. ive only been semi-active on this ng for a couple'a'weeks and
i know this is a lame attempt at a forgery!!

hehe.. jesus, someone really thinks s/he knows whats going on...


On Tue, 4 Jan 2000 07:16:52 -0700, "Gunner" <gun...@cyberg8t.com>

FRED J TEMPLE

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"Gunner" <gun...@cyberg8t.com> wrote in message
news:s7408v...@corp.supernews.com...


> Hello, friends. Since 1977 the North American Man Boy Love Association
> (NAMBLA) has fought hard for the rights of a group in our society that has
> been persecuted relentlessly.
>
> I would like feed back from the group about opening a disscussion group
for
> this controversial segment of society. Please show your support.
>
> Gunner.
>
>

My goodness.. in the 5 years that I've been perusing usenet newsgroups, this
is without a doubt THE lamest attempt at forgery I have ever seen -
SERIOUSLY.

Fred J. Temple
dakot...@prodigy.net

WhiteWolf

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gunner, uummmm, you are kidding right? please say 'yes'.

WhiteWolf


On Tue, 4 Jan 2000 07:16:52 -0700, "Gunner" <gun...@cyberg8t.com>
wrote:

>Hello, friends. Since 1977 the North American Man Boy Love Association

WhiteWolf

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whew!!! didn't bother to check the authenticity of the post. silly
WhiteWolf.
whomsoever this ryan is - please stay away from my so or i will be
forced to..............................................

Gullible WhiteWolf

Phil

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Gunner wrote:
>
> Hello, friends. Since 1977 the North American Man Boy Love Association
> (NAMBLA) has fought hard for the rights of a group in our society that has
> been persecuted relentlessly.
>
> I would like feed back from the group about opening a disscussion group for
> this controversial segment of society. Please show your support.
>
> Gunner.

Hmmmm, I always have had my doubts about you Gunner!! ;o)

Phil

Peace, Bread, Land

Sarge 6

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Jan 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/4/00
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White Wolf, This has troll droppings all over it.
I seriously doubt You will ever see anything even
remotely like this written by the real Gunner.
Lots of good info.yes, but this? No Way.

Allen

WhiteWolf wrote:

> gunner, uummmm, you are kidding right? please say 'yes'.
>
> WhiteWolf
>
> On Tue, 4 Jan 2000 07:16:52 -0700, "Gunner" <gun...@cyberg8t.com>

JayRyder

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"Gunner" <gun...@cyberg8t.com> wrote in message
news:s7408v...@corp.supernews.com...

> Hello, friends. Since 1977 the North American Man Boy Love Association
> (NAMBLA) has fought hard for the rights of a group in our society that has
> been persecuted relentlessly.
>
> I would like feed back from the group about opening a disscussion group
for
> this controversial segment of society. Please show your support.
>
> Gunner.

Troll boy if you are going to forge an identity, you forge their ISP sig
line and all!
Are you free?

Do you own your body? Can you prostitute yourself, sell your organs, or
medicate yourself? Do you own your labor? Can you work for any wage
you want, whatever hours you want, and keep the fruits of your sweat?

Do you own your possessions? Can the terms of your property ownership
be changed at any time, or for any reason? Can your property be taxed
without limitation?

Can you travel freely? Must you carry identification papers for you and
your property, submit to search without warrant, cause, or recourse?

There is a spectrum upon which lie two endpoints. One point is slavery,
and at the other end: FREEDOM.

JayRyder

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On Tue, 4 Jan 2000 18:35:02 -0600, "JayRyder"
<JayRyde...@micron.net> wrote nothing:

>Troll boy if you are going to forge an identity, you forge their ISP sig
>line and all!

Nope, another forgery.


--

Stephanie

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Gunner <gun...@cyberg8t.com> wrote

> If Mr. Watson had kept this fraud as an email, I would simply have
> blown him off, but as he posted this in a public forum, where I am a
> regular, and up to now, respected member, and injured me in a number
> of most grievous ways, I must precede to regain my good name, via
> application of Tort and litigation.
>

Remember that due to the ability of rational minds to understand the
trickery which may be employed in this realm, your consistent respectability
is completely undamaged.

With that said...suit up the lawyers and open the gate.


Ranamacar

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Jan 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/5/00
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Who'd you piss off this week, Gunner?

Some lowlife is trying to convince the newbies that we're a bunch of deviants
around here, and without even taking the time to get to know us!


What are you going to do when the lights go out?

Ben &

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This wasn't posted by Gunner. Same guy trying to past himself off as a
Brit dotcom aka trishdish and a bunch of other aliases is just here
trolling.

The guy doing it is an ex-con, who calls himself "God" and runs a
combination porn/prophecies web site from Philadelphia, but he lives
in New Jersey. Some of you know who I"m talking about. but please
don't even think of mentioning his name here or we will never get rid
of him.

Just as clue to this piece of work - he's been in and out of a mental
clinic many times in eastern Pennsylvania for drug abuse therapy, etc.
He's a very twisted person. Be careful, because he turns nasty very
quckly and has succeeded in getting ISP's to dump some people that he
gets pissed off at, and often resorts to an email spam attack that is
very unpleasant if he gets your address.

Good luck, and it's just too bad we have losers like this showing up
in this group of some pretty terrific people (yes, you're OK too
Glickman).


On Tue, 4 Jan 2000 07:16:52 -0700, "Gunner" <gun...@cyberg8t.com>
wrote:

>Hello, friends. Since 1977 the North American Man Boy Love Association

Gunner

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On Tue, 4 Jan 2000 07:16:52 -0700, "Gunner" <gun...@cyberg8t.com>
wrote:

>Hello, friends. Since 1977 the North American Man Boy Love Association
>(NAMBLA) has fought hard for the rights of a group in our society that has
>been persecuted relentlessly.
>
>I would like feed back from the group about opening a disscussion group for
>this controversial segment of society. Please show your support.
>
>Gunner.
>

Nice try Ryan. You just earned yourself a all expense paid trip to
court. Of course you pay the expenses, and a bit of punitive damages,
not to mention loss of internet access.

Ah... rwa...@pcisys.net is a nifty email address, and Im sure your
provider is going to be real happy to get a phone call from me, my
lawyer, and a couple other folks whom carry a bit of weight.

You screwed the pooch this time son. Really. Some folks you can fuck
with, and others, you do at your peril. If you had spammed me with
almost any other kind of trash, I would have blown it off, or
responded in kind, but this. this is just too much to let lay .

You have shit in your messkit.

You are going to be tracked down, penalized, and held to account. Your
physical address will be posted to the world wide net, along with your
name, phone number, place of school or employment. You pissed me off.
Of all the hot buttons you could have pushed, posting me in
conjunction with those scum sucking low life dregs of amembic
protoplasm.... I really wish you were local. Really. REALLY REALLY
REALLY.
So, as you are not, I am forced to procede in the only possible venue,
that I have at the moment.

You will be hearing from me again.

Gunner

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invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write
a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort
the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone,
solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program
a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die
gallantly. Specialization is for insects." Robert Heinlein

Free Hobby Buy/Swap/Sell Website
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Home Page
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Gunner

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This is a copy of an email sent to PCISYS.NETs abuse, billing, email,
tech support and other addresses within the PCISYS.NET infrastructure.
It has also been forwarded to my ISPs abuse devision, and to my
attorney.

Thank you all for picking up on the forgery. Of all the hot buttons
this gentleman could have pushed, he picked the worst.
OOOPS

Thanks guys!

Gunner
---------------------------------Emailed to various entities


You have a problem subscriber. He posted this forged newsgroup message
on misc.survivalism, in my name. As you can tell from my headers, and
from the headers of his post, the post originated from one of your
servers. Ryan Watson and PCISYS will be named as co defendants in a
law suit in the next few days, as soon as my attorney drafts the
complaint. Punitive damages, of a large amount will be levied against
this party, and against PCISYS, for slander, liable, character
assassination, and a host of other injuries to me, my good name, my
business, my customer base, my family and my community standing.

If Mr. Watson had kept this fraud as an email, I would simply have
blown him off, but as he posted this in a public forum, where I am a
regular, and up to now, respected member, and injured me in a number
of most grievous ways, I must precede to regain my good name, via
application of Tort and litigation.

His post is now archived on Deja servers for all the world to see,
and that adds to the damages that will be levied.
I would suggest that Mr. Watson has violated his terms of agreement,
and to save PCISYS.Net from litigation, his account should be
terminated at the earliest possible moment.

Below is the post Mr. Watson submitted, in full, so you may ID his
stats, and confirm with your logs.

Take care of Mr. Watson, or my legal staff will be forced to take care
of the both of you.

Mark "Gunner" Wieber

---------------------------------------------------

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Subject: Looking to start a NAMBLA Disscussion group..
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 07:16:52 -0700
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Hello, friends. Since 1977 the North American Man Boy Love
Association
(NAMBLA) has fought hard for the rights of a group in our society that
has
been persecuted relentlessly.

I would like feed back from the group about opening a disscussion
group for
this controversial segment of society. Please show your support.

Gunner.

---------------------------------------------------------

Phil

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Ranamacar wrote:
>
> Who'd you piss off this week, Gunner?

Our resident little troll, Trishdish, dotcom or whatever it is calling
itself tonight!

>
> Some lowlife is trying to convince the newbies that we're a bunch of > deviants around here, and without even taking the time to get to know > us!

Yeah, coz once they get to know you they would be able to give more
detailed information on your deviance! ;o)

>
> What are you going to do when the lights go out?

If Gunner is about I am gonna keep my back to the wall!! ;o) Sorry
Gunner, couldn't resist!

Phil

Peace, Bread, Land

Phil

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Gunner wrote:
>
> This is a copy of an email sent to PCISYS.NETs abuse, billing, email,
> tech support and other addresses within the PCISYS.NET infrastructure.
> It has also been forwarded to my ISPs abuse devision, and to my
> attorney.

Shit, you really are pissed off!! Do let us know if you want any witness
statements supporting you! I was very nearly taken in, until I noticed
the organisation was wrong!

Phil

Peace, Bread, Land

Angela

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"Gunner" <gun...@cyberg8t.com> wrote in message
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> Nice try Ryan. You just earned yourself a all expense paid trip to
> court. Of course you pay the expenses, and a bit of punitive damages,
> not to mention loss of internet access.
>

<snip>

> You are going to be tracked down, penalized, and held to account. Your
> physical address will be posted to the world wide net, along with your
> name, phone number, place of school or employment.

Gunner, while I agree wholeheartedly that you should pursue legal avenues, I
wouldn't do *this* - this is against the Terms of Service and Acceptable Use
Policy of most reputable ISP's. I can't find the TOS or AUP of your ISP, but
I'm sure you can find it, and it might be worth your time to make sure
you're not in breach of your contract with your service provider, while
slapping down this yutz for being in breach of *his* contract with *his*
service provider (and other crimes).

--angela

W A Collier

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In article <s7408v...@corp.supernews.com>, gun...@cyberg8t.com
says...

> Hello, friends. Since 1977 the North American Man Boy Love Association
> (NAMBLA) has fought hard for the rights of a group in our society that has
> been persecuted relentlessly.
>
> I would like feed back from the group about opening a disscussion group for
> this controversial segment of society. Please show your support.
>
> Gunner.

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Forgery. What a lamer

sean

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Jan 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/5/00
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LOCK&LOAD!!!
Cry "Havoc"and unleash the attorneys. Gunner!Go get him!
On this matter of trolls,maybe if one is brought to heel,the rest may go
away.Folks it is time that these "people" were put on notice,with their mail
servers.Freedom of speech,no problem with it.But personal abuse,or abuse of
a group is too much. wonder how long U would last trolling like the way some
do here if you hated,Jews or gays and were posting shite like that to one of
their NGs?

Be warned Trolls!

Sean
"They say one learns from one's mistakes.
I prefer to learn from the mistakes of others"
Otto von Bismarck

"Keep on rocki'n in the free world."

phat mike

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hehe..

On Tue, 04 Jan 2000 21:06:50 GMT, jayryde...@micron.net (JayRyder)
wrote:

JayRyder

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ROTFL.

Gunner, you are pathetic.

You arent a regular on this ng. Youve been here far as I can tell,
less than a yr. There once was a Gunner at a different isp, and he
has since changed handles. He posted here for 3 yrs.

Ill offer $100.00 if you win against some troller. Grow up. You cant
possibly sue this guy. Course, youd know this ifn you werent a
newbie. And as far as 'respectable' goes, Ive archived more than a
dozen anti-gunner emails Ive received about you, in response to your
childish ad-hom posts about myself.

Please DO post the results of your inquest. In addition to the above
payment, I will add $10.00 for each update you provide us with, in the
event you are adjudicated.

What a dickhead. LOL. You proudly stand against your fellow human
for acts that you dont personlly believe in. Up Yours, jerk.

--

Freedom: it is letting others do things you find repulsive.

Gunner

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Jan 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/5/00
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Ah, the indomitable SheepRyder is back again. I was wondering if this
would bring you out of the woodwork.

Oopps, said the same thing about Pitcavage. Well, peas in a pod and
all that.


I might suggest that you check deja, for both of my email addresses,
then tell me my posting history. Ive only had this provider for less
than a year. Nice try. Work on it.

After recieving both a public and private apology, from RW, (which
tooks guts btw... more than you have demonstrated btw), I have let the
matter drop. I would suggest that you do as well, as its a non issue.

Gunner

On Wed, 05 Jan 2000 11:02:07 GMT, jayryde...@micron.net (JayRyder)
wrote:

>
>ROTFL.
>
>Gunner, you are pathetic.
>
>You arent a regular on this ng. Youve been here far as I can tell,
>less than a yr. There once was a Gunner at a different isp, and he
>has since changed handles. He posted here for 3 yrs.
>
>Ill offer $100.00 if you win against some troller. Grow up. You cant
>possibly sue this guy. Course, youd know this ifn you werent a
>newbie. And as far as 'respectable' goes, Ive archived more than a
>dozen anti-gunner emails Ive received about you, in response to your
>childish ad-hom posts about myself.
>
>Please DO post the results of your inquest. In addition to the above
>payment, I will add $10.00 for each update you provide us with, in the
>event you are adjudicated.
>
>What a dickhead. LOL. You proudly stand against your fellow human
>for acts that you dont personlly believe in. Up Yours, jerk.
>
>--
>
>Freedom: it is letting others do things you find repulsive.

--------------------------



"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an
invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write
a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort
the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone,
solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program
a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die
gallantly. Specialization is for insects." Robert Heinlein

Rosies Page http://rosie.acmecity.com/flower/277/
homepage http://userzweb.lightspeed.net/gunner

JayRyder

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I occasionally get off of my meds and assume this troll identity over who I
have no control, must be my multiple personality problems.

Are you free?

Do you own your body? Can you prostitute yourself, sell your organs, or
medicate yourself? Do you own your labor? Can you work for any wage
you want, whatever hours you want, and keep the fruits of your sweat?

Do you own your possessions? Can the terms of your property ownership
be changed at any time, or for any reason? Can your property be taxed
without limitation?

Can you travel freely? Must you carry identification papers for you and
your property, submit to search without warrant, cause, or recourse?

There is a spectrum upon which lie two endpoints. One point is slavery,
and at the other end: FREEDOM.

"phat mike" <phat...@NOSPAMusa.net> wrote in message
news:38736d8...@news.ne.mediaone.net...


> hehe..
>
> On Tue, 04 Jan 2000 21:06:50 GMT, jayryde...@micron.net (JayRyder)
> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 4 Jan 2000 18:35:02 -0600, "JayRyder"
> ><JayRyde...@micron.net> wrote nothing:
> >
> >>Troll boy if you are going to forge an identity, you forge their ISP sig
> >>line and all!
> >
> >Nope, another forgery.
> >
> >

Bill Seward

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Whilst tap dancing on a land mine, "Gunner" <gun...@cyberg8t.com>
wrote:

<Snipped with extreme prejudice, since the Gunner I've come to know is
probably mad enough already...>

Dear sleazeoid:

I thought I had seen some low behavior in my life, but I believe you
have won one of the last available prizes. You have attempted, and
since we know our own, failed miserably at, an unwarrented smear aimed
at one of the best people I've never had a chance to meet.

I've already read his posts on the subject. I hope his lawyer is able
to nail you to a legal wall.

We won't even get into the part that what you are advocating is
illegal, immoral, and one of the crimes for which I think death by
slow torture should be reserved.


----------------------------------------
Bill Seward
http://www.homestead.com/the_freehold

phat mike

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wow.. does anyone think that *anyone* falls for these?!?!?

Lech K. Lesiak

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On Tue, 4 Jan 2000, Gunner wrote:

> Hello, friends. Since 1977 the North American Man Boy Love Association
> (NAMBLA) has fought hard for the rights of a group in our society that has
> been persecuted relentlessly.
>
> I would like feed back from the group about opening a disscussion group for
> this controversial segment of society. Please show your support.
>
> Gunner.

This one's a keeper. I think it will come in handy in the future. Why
would anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together post something
like this in a public forum?

Cheers,
Lech


Stephanie

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Subsequent to selecting the following forgery from the archives of
misc.survivalism, with which an angry newsgroup reader sought to damage
Gunner's reputation:

<FORGERY BEGINS>

> On Tue, 4 Jan 2000, Gunner wrote:
>
> > Hello, friends. Since 1977 the North American Man Boy Love Association
> > (NAMBLA) has fought hard for the rights of a group in our society that
has
> > been persecuted relentlessly.
> >
> > I would like feed back from the group about opening a disscussion group
for
> > this controversial segment of society. Please show your support.
> >
> > Gunner.
>

</FORGERY ENDS>

Lech K. Lesiak stated:

> This one's a keeper. I think it will come in handy in the future. Why
> would anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together post something
> like this in a public forum?
>
> Cheers,
> Lech
>

To which Stephanie advised:

Please ensure that the forgery is properly identified as such whenever it's
needed for discussion.
I agree...the forger is at risk for being considered a one-brain-celled
organism for his act.
He was extraordinarily crude in presenting Gunner as the author of the
message.

Charles Scripter

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Lech K. Lesiak <lkle...@calcna.ab.ca> wrote:

> This one's a keeper. I think it will come in handy in the future. Why
> would anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together post something
> like this in a public forum?

You're kinda slow on the uptake, son... This was clearly and
unambiguously identified as a forgery, several days ago.

Now the real question is, why would someone with more than two
brains cells to rub together not know that this was a forgery
(especially after that fact was publicly pointed out)?

--
Charles Scripter * cescr...@portup.com www.portup.com/~cescripter
When encryption is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir rapelcgvba.

Gunner

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"Stephanie" <Step...@SwedGer.Com> wrote:

>
>
>
>Subsequent to selecting the following forgery from the archives of
>misc.survivalism, with which an angry newsgroup reader sought to damage
>Gunner's reputation:
>
><FORGERY BEGINS>
>
>> On Tue, 4 Jan 2000, Gunner wrote:
>>
>> > Hello, friends. Since 1977 the North American Man Boy Love Association
>> > (NAMBLA) has fought hard for the rights of a group in our society that
>has
>> > been persecuted relentlessly.
>> >
>> > I would like feed back from the group about opening a disscussion group
>for
>> > this controversial segment of society. Please show your support.
>> >
>> > Gunner.
>>
></FORGERY ENDS>
>
>Lech K. Lesiak stated:
>

>> This one's a keeper. I think it will come in handy in the future. Why
>> would anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together post something
>> like this in a public forum?
>>

>> Cheers,
>> Lech
>>
>
>To which Stephanie advised:
>
>Please ensure that the forgery is properly identified as such whenever it's
>needed for discussion.
>I agree...the forger is at risk for being considered a one-brain-celled
>organism for his act.
>He was extraordinarily crude in presenting Gunner as the author of the
>message.
>

And for one, that it appears the forger has lost his internet account
over.

Gunner
---------------------------------------------------------

Mysterion

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Lech K. Lesiak wrote in message ...

>On Tue, 4 Jan 2000, Gunner wrote:
>
>> Hello, friends. Since 1977 the North American Man Boy Love Association
>> (NAMBLA) has fought hard for the rights of a group in our society that
has
>> been persecuted relentlessly.
>>
>> I would like feed back from the group about opening a disscussion group
for
>> this controversial segment of society. Please show your support.
>>
>> Gunner.
>
>This one's a keeper. I think it will come in handy in the future. Why
>would anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together post something
>like this in a public forum?


Thank you for, yet again, proving to all and sundry just how incredibly
stupid you really are.

Bud Carpenter

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Anybody who believes Gunner posted it doesn't have two brain cells to rub
together.

--


Bud

"To have really lived you must have almost died.
To those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the
protected will never know."
Anonymously scrawled on a bunker at Khe Sahn, RVN
Lest we forget those who served and may still be serving in that godforsaken
place.
See my webpage at Http://www.acmecity.com/rosie/singing/169


Lech K. Lesiak <lkle...@calcna.ab.ca> wrote in message
news:Pine.A41.4.05.100010...@srv1.calcna.ab.ca...


> On Tue, 4 Jan 2000, Gunner wrote:
>
> > Hello, friends. Since 1977 the North American Man Boy Love Association
> > (NAMBLA) has fought hard for the rights of a group in our society that
has
> > been persecuted relentlessly.
> >
> > I would like feed back from the group about opening a disscussion group
for
> > this controversial segment of society. Please show your support.
> >
> > Gunner.
>
> This one's a keeper. I think it will come in handy in the future. Why
> would anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together post something
> like this in a public forum?
>

> Cheers,
> Lech
>

katm...@webtv.net

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After joining this thread "in progress",I've just now discovered the
obvious forgery
with Gunner's name attached.

I kinda feel sorry for the poor forgin' bastard. Nah...sic'em Gunner!


KATMANTWO


Phil

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Bud Carpenter wrote:
>
> Anybody who believes Gunner posted it doesn't have two brain cells to > rub together.

Ok, this is gonna cause risk a big flame war and is in no way meant as
an attack on Gunner. But, if someone did not know Gunner and where he
posts from it is understandable that they might have thought it was
really from him.

While I agree that anyone who knows Gunner at all would be stupid to
believe he wrote it, I do not think it is fair to attack someone who
does not know him for not knowing him!

Phil

Peace, Bread, Land

rbo...@fastlane.net

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Simple. Check the headers.

Forte free agent. Right click. Click on "Show All Headers".
Compare.

rbo...@fastlane.net

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On Sun, 09 Jan 2000 21:43:43 +0000, Phil <no-...@nowhere.com> wrote:

>But, to know what the headers should read you would have to know Gunner!
>If you do not know him at all how are you supposed to know what the
>headers are supposed to read?
>
>Phil
>
>Peace, Bread, Land

Check a prior post. If it IS him, they will originate from the same place.
Hint: go back to the original post that started this and check out the
"organization" line.

Phil

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Charles Scripter

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Phil <no-...@nowhere.com> wrote:

>> >While I agree that anyone who knows Gunner at all would be stupid to
>> >believe he wrote it, I do not think it is fair to attack someone who
>> >does not know him for not knowing him!

>> Simple. Check the headers.


>>
>> Forte free agent. Right click. Click on "Show All Headers".
>> Compare.

And under "tin" (a unix based news reader), use control-H.

> But, to know what the headers should read you would have to know Gunner!
> If you do not know him at all how are you supposed to know what the
> headers are supposed to read?

Well, the dolt in question could have read the followup messages,
which pointed out that the message was in fact a forgery... then he
wouldn't even have to understand headers...

Phil

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rbo...@fastlane.net wrote:
>
> >If you do not know him at all how are you supposed to know what the
> >headers are supposed to read?
> >
> >Phil
> >
> >Peace, Bread, Land
>
> Check a prior post. If it IS him, they will originate from the same
> place. Hint: go back to the original post that started this and check > out the "organization" line.

Erm, if you do not know him how are you to know which is real and which
are forged? I can understand why you feel the way you do, but can you
kinda see the point I am trying to make??

Phil

Peace, Bread, Land

rbo...@fastlane.net

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Of course. Totally.

The OP, (original poster), could have done a Deja.com power search,
checked out 8, 10, 12 posts, found all of the like kinds and the ONE
blatant forgery. This is "2nd week on the net" stuff. :-)

and I'm not a "net-head" by any stretch of the imagnination.

>Phil
>
>Peace, Bread, Land


Lech K. Lesiak

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On Sat, 8 Jan 2000, Mysterion wrote:

> Thank you for, yet again, proving to all and sundry just how incredibly
> stupid you really are.

You are quite welcome, but I stand by my original comment. I was
incredibly dumb to post something of that sort.

Cheers,
Lech


Miradus

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On Sat, 8 Jan 2000 23:05:00 -0700, "Bud Carpenter"
<bud...@theriver.com> wrote:

>Anybody who believes Gunner posted it doesn't have two brain cells to rub
>together.

I figured Gunner didn't post it. I know better.

But it still made me laugh pretty hard.

Miradus

Miradus

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On Sun, 09 Jan 2000 21:43:43 +0000, Phil <no-...@nowhere.com> wrote:

>But, to know what the headers should read you would have to know Gunner!

>If you do not know him at all how are you supposed to know what the
>headers are supposed to read?

It's a Catch-22. Gunner's reputation was only risked with those whom
do not know him by his previous postings, and I'm sure he cares little
about what they think.

We who do know him are pretty sure he wouldn't post anything about his
gay-pedophile tendencies in this newsgroup.

(ducks large object thrown by Gunner)

Miradus

skullywv

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HEHEHE! Kinda like walking into a COP bar with a switchblade and demanding
money<LOL>!!

Gunner <gun...@cyberg8t.com> wrote in message
news:3877bedc...@news.cyberg8t.com...
> On Tue, 4 Jan 2000 07:16:52 -0700, "Gunner" <gun...@cyberg8t.com>


> wrote:
>
> >Hello, friends. Since 1977 the North American Man Boy Love Association
> >(NAMBLA) has fought hard for the rights of a group in our society that
has
> >been persecuted relentlessly.
> >
> >I would like feed back from the group about opening a disscussion group
for
> >this controversial segment of society. Please show your support.
> >
> >Gunner.
> >

> Nice try Ryan. You just earned yourself a all expense paid trip to
> court. Of course you pay the expenses, and a bit of punitive damages,
> not to mention loss of internet access.
>
> Ah... rwa...@pcisys.net is a nifty email address, and Im sure your
> provider is going to be real happy to get a phone call from me, my
> lawyer, and a couple other folks whom carry a bit of weight.
>
> You screwed the pooch this time son. Really. Some folks you can fuck
> with, and others, you do at your peril. If you had spammed me with
> almost any other kind of trash, I would have blown it off, or
> responded in kind, but this. this is just too much to let lay .
>
> You have shit in your messkit.
>
> You are going to be tracked down, penalized, and held to account. Your
> physical address will be posted to the world wide net, along with your
> name, phone number, place of school or employment. You pissed me off.
> Of all the hot buttons you could have pushed, posting me in
> conjunction with those scum sucking low life dregs of amembic
> protoplasm.... I really wish you were local. Really. REALLY REALLY
> REALLY.
> So, as you are not, I am forced to procede in the only possible venue,
> that I have at the moment.
>
> You will be hearing from me again.


>
> Gunner
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an
> invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write
> a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort
> the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone,
> solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program
> a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die
> gallantly. Specialization is for insects." Robert Heinlein
>

> Free Hobby Buy/Swap/Sell Website
> www.cyberg8t.com/gunner/hsm/index.html
>
> Home Page
> http://userzweb.lightspeed.net/gunner
>

Gunner

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As Gunner pulls the pin and starts counting for a timed air
burst....One Missisippi...Two Mississippi.....


--------------------------

"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an
invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write
a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort
the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone,
solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program
a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die
gallantly. Specialization is for insects." Robert Heinlein

Rosies Page http://rosie.acmecity.com/flower/277/
homepage http://userzweb.lightspeed.net/gunner

Bill & Pat Velek

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Danged-nabbit, Phil, you're starting to talk like a yankee carpetbagger
or a lawyer or something. When you see a post that you think is too
stupid to have actually been written by the purported author, you are
supposed to do a lot of research through deja news to determine if the
dumb post is for real or not. What in the hell is wrong with you? ;-)

Bill Velek

Phil wrote:


>
> rbo...@fastlane.net wrote:
> >
> > >If you do not know him at all how are you supposed to know what the
> > >headers are supposed to read?
> > >

> > >Phil
> > >
> > >Peace, Bread, Land
> >
> > Check a prior post. If it IS him, they will originate from the same
> > place. Hint: go back to the original post that started this and check > out the "organization" line.
>
> Erm, if you do not know him how are you to know which is real and which
> are forged? I can understand why you feel the way you do, but can you
> kinda see the point I am trying to make??
>

> Phil
>
> Peace, Bread, Land

Bill & Pat Velek

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Charles Scripter wrote:

snip

> Well, the dolt in question could have read the followup messages,
> which pointed out that the message was in fact a forgery... then he
> wouldn't even have to understand headers...

Errr, ... aaahh, ... ummmm, ... the Gunner post was a forgery?? Damned,
... I knew my kill-file had gotten too big; I'm only receiving about
four posts a day now. ;-)

Bill Velek

Bill & Pat Velek

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Charles Scripter wrote:

snip

> Wait! You mean *I'm* not in your kill file? ;)

Mr. Scripter, you are one of my favorite people ;-)

Bill Velek

Charles Scripter

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Bill & Pat Velek <ve...@cyberback.com> wrote:

> Charles Scripter wrote:
>> Well, the dolt in question could have read the followup messages,

> Errr, ... aaahh, ... ummmm, ... the Gunner post was a forgery?? Damned,


> ... I knew my kill-file had gotten too big; I'm only receiving about
> four posts a day now. ;-)

Wait! You mean *I'm* not in your kill file? ;)

--

Charles Scripter

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Bill & Pat Velek <ve...@cyberback.com> wrote:

>> Wait! You mean *I'm* not in your kill file? ;)

> Mr. Scripter, you are one of my favorite people ;-)

Despite the fact that I occassionally give someone a solid boot to
the head? Wow! *blush* ;)

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