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Why doesn't Dave Touretzky object to suicide coachings?

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Fredric L. Rice

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Dec 28, 2003, 1:46:02 PM12/28/03
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Notmylazy...@emailaccount.com (TheoneTheonly) wrote:

>David Touretzky, the CMU "educator" attacks Scientology over the death
>of Scientologist Lisa McPherson and claimed that Scientology killed
>her.

There's no question that the Scientology crime syndicate killed Lisa
McPherson, or that they did so after she started talking to her kidnappers
that she wanted to escape from the cult. That's not a matter of issue and
even the killers themselves have admitted that they killed her; they just
claimed that they had the religious right to under Florida's Religious
Freedom Restoration Act -- which Florida courts have rountinely denied as
was in the McPherson murder wherein the Judge specifically stated that
Scientology couldn't claim the exemption to kill as that "would make every
man a law unto himself."

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Fredric L. Rice

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Dec 29, 2003, 1:45:44 PM12/29/03
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Notmylazy...@emailaccount.com (TheoneTheonly) wrote:
>FR...@SkepticTank.REMOVE.ORG (Fredric L. Rice) wrote in message news:<vuu98mi...@corp.supernews.com>...

>> Notmylazy...@emailaccount.com (TheoneTheonly) wrote:
>>>David Touretzky, the CMU "educator" attacks Scientology over the death
>>>of Scientologist Lisa McPherson and claimed that Scientology killed
>>>her.
>FR...@SkepticTank.REMOVE.ORG (Fredric L. Rice) wrote in message news:>...

>> Notmylazy...@emailaccount.com (TheoneTheonly) wrote:
>>>David Touretzky, the CMU "educator" attacks Scientology over the death
>>>of Scientologist Lisa McPherson and claimed that Scientology killed
>>>her.

>Lisa McPherson's death was accidentially

As usual the insane kook doesn't address the issues and launches off into
another insane kook rant. The facts are available on the Internet with
the use of Google.

McPherson was tied down and murdered. Even the killers admitted that
they tied her down and kept her from escaping.

You support and defend killers.

Fredric L. Rice

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Dec 29, 2003, 1:48:01 PM12/29/03
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Notmylazy...@emailaccount.com (TheoneTheonly) wrote:
>Zinj <zinj...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<MPG.1a575c70f...@news2.lightlink.com>...
>> In article <527ed47f.03122...@posting.google.com>,
>> Notmylazy...@emailaccount.com says...

>>> David Touretzky, the CMU "educator" attacks Scientology over the death
>>> of Scientologist Lisa McPherson and claimed that Scientology killed
>>> her.
>> Fact: in taking her from the hospital, they assumed
>> responsibility for her. She died. Ergo, they killed her. The only
>> question is whether the 'Church' is liable, not whether the
>> 'killed' her.

>Dave Touretzky has in headlines on his webpage that they killed her,
>which is not true.

Scientology _admits_ that they killed her. What they don't admit to is
that it was deliberate -- at least not at first. After they started to
claim they had the religious right to murder their customers, though,
using the Religious Freedom Restoration Act Florida passed, that pretty
much stamps "PAID" on any claim the crime syndicate has that their
murder wasn't deliberate. They can't have it all ways.

Fredric L. Rice

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Dec 29, 2003, 1:50:47 PM12/29/03
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Notmylazy...@emailaccount.com (TheoneTheonly) wrote:

>I don't think they were indifferent. The whole incident must be blamed
>on psychiatrists, if they would not be known for messing people up and
>killing them, if they were not such a junk science, Scientologists
>would not object to them taking care of Scientologists. They were
>afraid that Lisa get murdered or permanently damaged in an
>institution, that is why they did not turn her over to psychs.

So Scientology murdered Lisa McPherson to keep her from being murdered
or "messed up" by the Nazi conspiracy invlving the Marcabian invasion
fleet from outerspace under the direction of "the psychiatrists." Yes,
that's about as insane as anything else you've posted so far, kookie.

"We had to destroy the village to save it."

Or has hubbard put it, "We would rather have to dead than unable."

Well, kook, they murdered her.

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Fredric L. Rice

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Dec 29, 2003, 10:56:48 PM12/29/03
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Notmylazy...@emailaccount.com (TheoneTheonly) wrote:
>FR...@SkepticTank.REMOVE.ORG (Fredric L. Rice) wrote in message news:<vv0ttpm...@corp.supernews.com>...
>> Notmylazy...@emailaccount.com (TheoneTheonly) wrote:

>Frederic Rice, how deep are you involved in the identity fraud and
>forgery that Garry Scarff committed? I am asking you that as he
>mentioned your name in one of his forgeries under my name. He made it
>seem as if you would be with him on that. He positions himself with
>you. The criminal is currently posting with Barbara_Schwarz and yes, I
>filed complaints to authorities.

PentaQuark

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Dec 30, 2003, 3:49:32 PM12/30/03
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>
> So Scientology murdered Lisa McPherson to keep her from being murdered
> or "messed up" by the Nazi conspiracy invlving the Marcabian invasion
> fleet from outerspace under the direction of "the psychiatrists." Yes,
> that's about as insane as anything else you've posted so far, kookie.
>
> "We had to destroy the village to save it."
>
> Or has hubbard put it, "We would rather have to dead than unable."
>
> Well, kook, they murdered her.
>

"Members and front organizations must continually embarrass, discredit
and degrade our critics. When obstructionists become too irritating,
label them as fascist, or Nazi or anti-Semitic .... The association
will, after enough repetition, become "fact" in the public mind."
--Communist Party, Moscow Central Committee 1943

Guess who?

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Dec 31, 2003, 2:12:18 PM12/31/03
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Penta...@witty.com (PentaQuark) wrote in message news:<1265c8ea.03123...@posting.google.com>...

> >
> > So Scientology murdered Lisa McPherson to keep her from being murdered
> > or "messed up" by the Nazi conspiracy invlving the Marcabian invasion
> > fleet from outerspace under the direction of "the psychiatrists." Yes,
> > that's about as insane as anything else you've posted so far, kookie.
> >
> > "We had to destroy the village to save it."
> >
> > Or has hubbard put it, "We would rather have to dead than unable."
That is certainly not by L. Ron Hubbard!

> >
> > Well, kook, they murdered her.
> >
>
> "Members and front organizations must continually embarrass, discredit
> and degrade our critics. When obstructionists become too irritating,
> label them as fascist, or Nazi or anti-Semitic .... The association
> will, after enough repetition, become "fact" in the public mind."
> --Communist Party, Moscow Central Committee 1943

So, you like the Communist Party or probably are even a member, but I
still don't know why David Touretzky does not object to the suicide
coaching of healthy and young people as Karin Spaink does. He knows of
her, so why doesn't he (or you other guys) speak out against that?

Barbara Schwarz
http://aros.net/~barbarasch/

PentaQuark

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Dec 31, 2003, 3:45:13 PM12/31/03
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>
> As usual the insane kook doesn't address the issues and launches off into
> another insane kook rant. The facts are available on the Internet with
> the use of Google.
>
> McPherson was tied down and murdered. Even the killers admitted that
> they tied her down and kept her from escaping.
>
> You support and defend killers.
>
> ---
> CAUTION: Reading these Scientoloy "secrets" will give you pneumonia:
> http://sf.irk.ru/www/ot3/otiii-gif.html
> http://w4u.eexi.gr/~antbos/XENU.HTM

The only true Barbara Schwarz - other postings with my name are forgeries

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Jan 31, 2004, 1:29:07 PM1/31/04
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theonewhosha...@emailaccount.com (Guess who?) wrote in message news:<7a350238.0312...@posting.google.com>...

> Penta...@witty.com (PentaQuark) wrote in message news:<1265c8ea.03123...@posting.google.com>...

I still don't know why Dave Tourtzky and other socalled Scientology
"critics" don't object to the despicable and lawless suicide coaching
of fellow Scientology attacker Karin Spaink.

Barbara Schwarz (the only real one)

Papa Boner

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Jan 31, 2004, 5:45:43 PM1/31/04
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ARS-is...@myway.com (The only true Barbara Schwarz - other postings with my name are forgeries) wrote in message news:<760804b4.04013...@posting.google.com>...

>
> I still don't know why Dave Tourtzky and other socalled Scientology
> "critics" don't object to the despicable and lawless suicide coaching
> of fellow Scientology attacker Karin Spaink.

Because any suggestion from a pathetic, lying psychotic like you
deserves to be ignored.
>
> Barbara Schwarz (the only real dope)

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