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iam deheretic

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Jun 4, 2010, 3:07:32 PM6/4/10
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The cement desert

Where people are living within a barren landscape

Struggling just to stay alive.

A dog eat dog environment.


A world of despair.

Hopelessness breeding desperation.

Sadness aching within my soul.

In the darkness flicking candles glow.


It seems that within the extreme of poverty

The need to do good finds nourishment to grow.

Feed by the very need to return to the Creator.


I listen to preachers scream.

Have you accepted Jesus Christ as your personal savior  –

Now give ten percent of your money to the church,

I am the church.


True representative of God.

The Father will bless you

I will forgive your sins then reward you with a place in heaven.


In heaven the sick will be healed.

You will live in perfect health.


Did I mention?

Virgins waiting for each man as he enters the gates of salvation.

For you young ladies

There will be young strong studs to wait on you

Filling your every desire.

Joy beyond compare.


The empty drumming goes on endlessly.


Wonder what the Creator Entity has to say

About all this drumming and grand standing..


Oh yeah wasn't there something about

Better to have a millstone tied around their neck

And be thrown in the sea


Yeah something like that.


It is a difficult world for the minister.

Literally thrown between a rock and a hard place.

What is even sadder the schools that teach them

Can only teach dogma and doctrine.


I am left wondering what ever happened to spirituality?

Was it left laying on the side of the road

Like some discarded robe?



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pol.science kid

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Jun 5, 2010, 10:25:29 AM6/5/10
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is this a poem...??

iam deheretic

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Jun 5, 2010, 11:00:50 AM6/5/10
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Yes


On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 4:25 PM, pol.science kid <r.fre...@gmail.com> wrote:
is this a poem...??

 
A weird one though,, found it stashed among my scribblings on Google Documents, Don't even remember why or when I wrote it..
Allan
 

pol.science kid

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Jun 5, 2010, 11:44:19 AM6/5/10
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its nice....you must be feeling distraught..at the time of civil unrest perhaps...;-)
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iam deheretic

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Jun 6, 2010, 3:10:30 AM6/6/10
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I do know I tend to get put out with churches and people  that just quote books and use them for their reference  it is from a point of somewhere unknown to me or mis quoted like my favorite bible quotes  "And he went out and hung himself" "go do thou like wise."

Spirituality is part of everyone no matter the theism they follow and they judge themselves by the true light of their theism and how they live this life. No person is in the position to condemn another. and religions are very bad about creating ideas of what is going to happen, and yet they have know idea of what they are talking about.. often times it is because they want to sound important but who knows  each person has to walk the path of their chosing..  some of them lead to who really knows where.

Spirituality is a fascinating topic  that no one agrees on and no one really knows for sure it true reality including myself,, I just have my ideas that I follow.
Allan.

rigsy03

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Jun 6, 2010, 10:04:41 AM6/6/10
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One can find much wisdom and guidance with the pagans-Aristotle,
Aesop, Homer, Greek tragic dramas, Horace, etc. Also folk wisdom,
fairy tales and myths. I view religion as an arm of the tribe or state
as a means of securing power over the dull minds of the masses. And
what can one make of the unholy holidays of modern society? It's all a
commercial gimmick.

On Jun 6, 2:10 am, iam deheretic <dehere...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I do know I tend to get put out with churches and people  that just quote
> books and use them for their reference  it is from a point of somewhere
> unknown to me or mis quoted like my favorite bible quotes  "And he went out
> and hung himself" "go do thou like wise."
>
> Spirituality is part of everyone no matter the theism they follow and they
> judge themselves by the true light of their theism and how they live this
> life. No person is in the position to condemn another. and religions are
> very bad about creating ideas of what is going to happen, and yet they have
> know idea of what they are talking about.. often times it is because they
> want to sound important but who knows  each person has to walk the path of
> their chosing..  some of them lead to who really knows where.
>
> Spirituality is a fascinating topic  that no one agrees on and no one really
> knows for sure it true reality including myself,, I just have my ideas that
> I follow.
> Allan.
>
> On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 5:44 PM, pol.science kid <r.freeb...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > its nice....you must be feeling distraught..at the time of civil
> > unrest perhaps...;-)
>
> > On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 8:30 PM, iam deheretic <dehere...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Yes
>
> >> On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 4:25 PM, pol.science kid <r.freeb...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>> is this a poem...??
>
> >> A weird one though,, found it stashed among my scribblings on Google
> >> Documents, Don't even remember why or when I wrote it..
> >> Allan
>
> God is always building a better idiot!!!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

rigsy03

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Jun 6, 2010, 10:15:51 AM6/6/10
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I disagree with your thought that one is not allowed to judge another-
it happens all the time- most notably in our judicial system but ever-
elsewhere, as well. There is no rule we must be a victim to another's
evil or violent behavior- whether stark or subtle. My thought is that
one postive outcome of judging others is that we count our blessings
anew- there but for the grace of god/fate go I sort of thing- and help
one another when able and willing. As society becomes urban and
helpless, it is hard to judge people- suited paper shufflers- versus
those who really accomplish something- blue collar artisans.//We
really have lost our connection to our immigrant ancestors. The family
farm and a self-sustaining way of life is doomed.

On Jun 6, 2:10 am, iam deheretic <dehere...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I do know I tend to get put out with churches and people  that just quote
> books and use them for their reference  it is from a point of somewhere
> unknown to me or mis quoted like my favorite bible quotes  "And he went out
> and hung himself" "go do thou like wise."
>
> Spirituality is part of everyone no matter the theism they follow and they
> judge themselves by the true light of their theism and how they live this
> life. No person is in the position to condemn another. and religions are
> very bad about creating ideas of what is going to happen, and yet they have
> know idea of what they are talking about.. often times it is because they
> want to sound important but who knows  each person has to walk the path of
> their chosing..  some of them lead to who really knows where.
>
> Spirituality is a fascinating topic  that no one agrees on and no one really
> knows for sure it true reality including myself,, I just have my ideas that
> I follow.
> Allan.
>
> On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 5:44 PM, pol.science kid <r.freeb...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > its nice....you must be feeling distraught..at the time of civil
> > unrest perhaps...;-)
>
> > On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 8:30 PM, iam deheretic <dehere...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Yes
>
> >> On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 4:25 PM, pol.science kid <r.freeb...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>> is this a poem...??
>
> >> A weird one though,, found it stashed among my scribblings on Google
> >> Documents, Don't even remember why or when I wrote it..
> >> Allan
>

pol.science kid

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Jun 7, 2010, 12:47:06 AM6/7/10
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oh its in the east that religion being an arm of the state really manifests itself....or the state being an arm of religion..of course the religion in question is highly corrupted.. but its a good way to stir peoples feelings when you dont have anything much to offer
on your manifesto...
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