Why is this group called "Minds Eye"

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Mahalia

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Dec 14, 2006, 11:12:51 AM12/14/06
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Hi Folks,

Is this a play of words on the "third eye" of the mind? Some call it
the "all seeing eye". It's on American currency on top of the pyramid.
Egyptians once believed this to be located in the pineal gland of the
brain which is made of similar tissue located in our two seeing eyes.
By-the-way, it is refreshing to chat with people who will think the
great thoughts.

Just curious,

Mahalia

kittu

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Dec 14, 2006, 11:51:34 AM12/14/06
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the titled is totally justified and can be explained a single line:
A BLIND PERSON CAN ALSO MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO HUMAN EXISTENCE BUT A MAD
PERSON CANNOT!"

KITTU

chazwin

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Dec 14, 2006, 2:04:13 PM12/14/06
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What about Vincent van Gough??
He was as mad as a brush!
Made a great difference!

facilitator

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Dec 14, 2006, 5:29:27 PM12/14/06
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Ask Craig, It's his puppy! Maybe it should be "third eye blind"?

Gabriel

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Dec 15, 2006, 12:41:11 AM12/15/06
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Nope too many copyright issues.

kittu

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Dec 15, 2006, 5:09:03 AM12/15/06
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hey chazwin
i think artist(painters) are the persons who although seem to be very
important but they don't make any difference to humanity.and according
to me most of them are mad.there paintings are of no productive use to
humanity.you tell me what is the utility of the painting other than it
being appreciated for its expensive price and adorable colour
combinations or geometry.and again i repose the fact that mad people
cannot make a difference to humanity.

i think we should discuss the importance of art in a new topic.and thus
am starting a new topic

Mistery

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Dec 15, 2006, 3:31:29 PM12/15/06
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Dear kittu, I am not at all in agreement with you!
Anybody can make a difference to humanity. Didn't Gödel go mad? How
about writers such as Kafka?
With your reasoning, I feel led to believe that whatever any author,
artist, scientist, genius does it won't have any consequences on
society.
Everybody can have a touch of madness.

"tell me what is the utility of the painting other than it being
appreciated for its expensive price and adorable colour combinations or
geometry."

I will be mad and say: "tell me what is the utility of the women other
than it
being appreciated for its expensive price and adorable color
combinations or geometry."

Paintings are like windows on the past and present. They used to be
illustrations for illiterate people who couldn't read when going to
church for instance.
I would say painting is another way of trying to be remembered and
transmit feelings and ideas to further generations. There is
photography now, video, the internet, you get lost in the middle of
tons of data in cyberspace. A little bit like art and painting when it
moved towards immateriality (c.f. I.K.B. and Yves Klein).
Painting still has importance in theater and films today.
Lock yourself in a room, paint all the walls black, spend a week in the
room and then tell me if you have the same point of view on art.
If that doesn't work go back in the room with a painting on the wall,
and you may realize how the painting stimulates your imagination and
helps you evade yourself from the dark reality around you.
It's not proven but I would imagine that you have more chances of
becoming mad without the painting than the week with.
Another way would be a third week with paint in the room.

I know I can't change your mind on painting, but have I help you see it
from a different perspective?
kittu? have you got a job that nobody else can do? a job that can make
a huge difference to humanity? Is your job of huge importance to
humanity?
don't know, but I feel that life is scary at times because anything
can have a huge impact on the world, thus humanity.

In a world that seems chaotic, just a sneeze can probably have a huge
impact on humanity. It's mad how you can't prove me right or wrong on
that, It's part of those many wonders that can't be answered.

Mahalia

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Dec 15, 2006, 5:12:29 PM12/15/06
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Hello Everyone,

I truly believe that art especially: painting, photo journalism,
photography has become all mix together. I think that is a good thing,
but not just for beauty's sake. Sometimes what we hear or read about
something and, our imaginations can not conceive what such chaos and
suffering in this world is like. It is unfathomable to our
imaginations, but when we see it it becomes perfectly clear.

Is there anyone here that could really imagine what the WTC looked like
without seeing it? There are pictures (no matter what their medium)
that are etched in our memories through sight.

Maybe you were thinking of still lifes of flowers Kittu, but dig a
little deeper.

TGIF,

Mahalia

Kierkecraig

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Dec 16, 2006, 1:11:44 AM12/16/06
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The name of the group as "Mind's Eye" came about through much
deliberation between me and a friend of mine. I was a philosopher, and
he was a literary buff, and so we were looking for some sort of title
that would encompass both our interests. The same night that we were
doing this he had quoted Shakespeare to me and the phrase "Mind's Eye"
came up. The rest is history.
By the way, it would be interesting if someone could find out where the
term "Mind's Eye" first showed up.

Gabriel

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Dec 16, 2006, 6:07:24 AM12/16/06
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The visual pathway is not a one-way street. Higher areas of the brain
can also send visual input back to neurons in lower areas of the visual
cortex... As humans, we have the ability to see with the mind's eye -to
have a perceptual experience in the abscence of visual input. For
example, PET scans have shown that when subjects, seated in a room,
imagine they are at their front door starting to walk either to the
left or right, activation begins in the visual association cortex, the
parietal cortex, and the prefrontal cortex - all higher cognitive
processing centers of the brain.[2]

---Source: Wikipedia

I don't know about the origin, but i came across this.

chazwin

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Dec 16, 2006, 1:33:20 PM12/16/06
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kittu wrote:
> On Dec 15, 12:04 am, "chazwin" <chazwy...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > What about Vincent van Gough??
> > He was as mad as a brush!
> > Made a great difference!
>
> hey chazwin
> i think artist(painters) are the persons who although seem to be very
> important but they don't make any difference to humanity.and according
> to me most of them are mad.there paintings are of no productive use to
> humanity.you tell me what is the utility of the painting other than it
> being appreciated for its expensive price and adorable colour
> combinations or geometry.and again i repose the fact that mad people
> cannot make a difference to humanity.
>
Have you never been "moved" by a work of art?
What would life be like with no art?
I feel sorry for you.
I can assure you that millions of people feel that art does change
their lifes. It provides all kinds of reflections on themselves and
their culture.
The ceiling of the sistine Chapel, Xanadu, Pachu Michu, Arc d'triomph,
St Paul's Cathederal, The Mona Lisa, Mount Ruchmore, Any one of the
fountains of Rome. All of this art has function and utility. Mad people
make a difference.


> i think we should discuss the importance of art in a new topic.and thus
> am starting a new topic

I think your topic will be as dry and as lifeless as your understanding
of art. You might try to put a bit of spark in your writing too. Try
capitalising the beginnings of your sentences first.

Mahalia

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Dec 16, 2006, 5:03:22 PM12/16/06
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Hi All,

I have been researching this for about 4 years now. I had a tumor on
the pineal gland of my brain. This launched a lot of symptoms, and then
the growth ruptured. And against all my doctor's knowledge, I lived.
This gland is part of the endocrine system. Many of the things that it
does remains a mystery. They do know it involves the internal
timeclock, dreams, serotonin, and cortisol levels.

It also releases a drug called DMT at birth and at death. In a few
religions followers are taught through meditation how to release this
drug at will. Supposedly, it is a psychedelic like LSD. This drug is
now being manufactured synthetically. And I'm sure you can guess that
the drug culture is in on it. Some believe that this drug is released
to soften the trama of birth and death. Some also believe that EMFs
have a significant role in causing these tumors others say it is due to
traumatic injuries to the brain. I've been in the electronics industry
forever it seems, and have had a lot of injuries to my head (can't you
tell LOL).

The oldest thing I can find on it, is that the Egyptians thought this
gland held the soul of a person and was its portal in and out of the
world as we know it.
Some doctors and psychiatrists believe it plays a signficant role in
the mind, others dismiss it as nothing, and still others say that there
are some things that are just not known YET.

Open to be refuted and disputed, but from first hand experience, don't
go the it's nothing route.

Scaaaarrrryyyyyyyyy,

Mahalia

kittu

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Dec 18, 2006, 1:58:26 AM12/18/06
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Hey
To EVERYONE WHO REFUTED KISHALVES POINT.

FIRSTLY and FOREMOSTLY i would like to tell you all that i was
misunderstood and misconcepted by some of you.

to MISTREY
in the firt article i wrote i used the term mad in context to the
inability to think.And the cientists genius and all those persons
cannot be referred to as the word mad i used for.INFACT in my view they
are the people which i think have contributed most to the humanity.


to OTHERS
but still my point of view for the painters remain the same.yes i do
agree that paintings can stimulate imaginations and thoughts.but the
thoughts and imaginations paintings are used for are of no use.you
can't be struck by a innovative idea after seeing a painting.in the
past there has been no scientist who created his theories after seeing
a painting.if that was the case all the scientist in the world would
start observing mona lisa throughout their life time.paintings can
stimulate imaginations which maybe just used for keeping your mind busy
and thus will make you feel pleasing.and for that matter there are
better means.paintings maybe used for conveying messages but that have
been long time ago and was named as pictorial script.

some of the other ucses mentioned above are not of the paintings its
rather of psychiatric symbols.

kittu

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Dec 18, 2006, 2:10:08 AM12/18/06
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IN THE ABOVE ARTICLE KISHALVE IS KITTU.KITTU IS MYNICK NAME AND MY REAL
NAME IS KISHALVE.BY MISTAKE WRITTEN IN THE ARTICLE,

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