C&A primer

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Matt Micene

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Mar 17, 2011, 3:01:23 PM3/17/11
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Can anyone point me to a primer on DoD C&A processes?  I’m trying to wrap my head around DIACAP, DISA ATOs, branch specific C&A processes in light of DoD processes.  Is there a hierarchy here at all?  How the DISA Approved Products List affects branches needs to do C&A on products? 

 

Public info would be preferable since I don’t have a CAC or a personal cert for anything that requires authentication.

 

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Matthew Bouillon

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Mar 17, 2011, 6:54:46 PM3/17/11
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Matt,

Some information that is publicly accessible on DIACAP can be found at http://iase.disa.mil/diacap/ and some other information can be found on the parent site: http://iase.disa.mil

DISA uses the Common Criteria as a baseline:  http://iase.disa.mil/common/index.html.  I know the Army has a separate approval process for IA and Network equipment that is not publicly accessible that I know about.  Not sure what the case is with the other services.

The Army has a separate process for doing a "Certificate of Networthiness (CON)" which requires another layer of approval for software and systems beyond the Common Criteria.  Again, I don't know what if anything the other services require.

Matthew Bouillon
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Kane McLean

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Mar 17, 2011, 7:55:26 PM3/17/11
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The CoN process is unique to the Army. I learned last week that none of the other services have an equivalent to it.

Kane

Matthew Bouillon

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Mar 17, 2011, 8:06:46 PM3/17/11
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That's the impression I had, but I have a limited background of other services.

Matthew Bouillon

Scott Winn

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Mar 18, 2011, 12:46:44 PM3/18/11
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I have heard that the Army CoN system is going away (as are the other service-level programs of a similar nature) and there will be a consolidation of the approval process at the DoD level for commercial products that are to be connected to DoD networks.  Working to confirm who is in charge and what the plan/timeline is, and will mention it if I find out more.

 

 

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Kane McLean

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Mar 18, 2011, 12:55:51 PM3/18/11
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That would be great

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Guy Martin

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Mar 18, 2011, 1:16:40 PM3/18/11
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And there was much rejoicing!

Frankly, it's about freaking time!  When I started working on DoD things, I was appalled (as a technologist, former sysad, and most importantly, as a taxpayer) at the state of affairs within the various fiefdoms in this regard.

While this might seem a small step to some outside of DoD, I think most of us would agree that this would pave the way for actual constructive change in the way technology is acquired and developed for the department.

This can't come soon enough - and I'm sure those of us on this list would be willing to jump in to help as needed.

Thanks.

    -Guy

Matt Micene

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Mar 18, 2011, 2:25:25 PM3/18/11
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Are Navy’s DADMS and AF’s iTRM not similar processes to Army’s CoN?

 

I think that the C&A consolidation under DoD that Scott mentioned would go a long way in getting a significant shift in IT software acquisition for the DoD.  Software vendors needing to track and maintain C&S across 4 or more potential processes is crazy.

 

Thanks for all the responses.

 

-Matt

 

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The CoN process is unique to the Army. I learned last week that none of the other services have an equivalent to it.

Kane

Matthew Bouillon

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Mar 18, 2011, 2:38:31 PM3/18/11
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This CoN process is driving me insane.  I can't wait.  Supposedly CNSS.gov is the place to go for the future of everything.  C&A is suppose to become part of a Risk Management Framework.  NIST is doing much of the implementation guidance, though I think I saw this latest continuing resolution put a big axe through their budget.  I hope it doesn't slow or stall their efforts.
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