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Bob Buckland ?:-) At Beautiful Downtown

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May 20, 2005, 2:23:41 AM5/20/05
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Hi Kris,

If you start Word in Office safe mode (hold ctrl key
when starting Word) do you still get the marks?

Do you have 'Asian Typography' or 'Complex Script'
tabs in Tools=>Options?

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<<"Kris" <kls...@att.net(doNOTspam)> wrote in message news:5C468AF7-9BD2-411B...@microsoft.com...
I've found several different questions throughout the discussion with this
same topic. I've deleted the languages suggested and everything is in
English, pointing to English, and can read only English, etc. These marks are
still appearing. I create manuals for my company and use screen shots.
These marks are seriously interferring with my job. Please help! What else
can I do? Thx! >>
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Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*


Kris

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May 23, 2005, 9:27:01 AM5/23/05
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Yes I still see the marks when I open Word in safe mode and I have Asian
Typography and Complex Scripts.
Thanks for your help on this!

Kris

Bob Buckland ?:-) At Beautiful Downtown

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May 23, 2005, 11:47:07 PM5/23/05
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Hi Kris,

Are you logged in as Administrator? If not then
some of the registry entries that control this may
not be getting updated.

Fron Start=>Search delete all files found with the search string
~$*.*;*.doc

Then with all Office apps closed if you enable an Arabic
and a Chinese language choice through the
Start=>Programs=>Microsoft Office Tools Language Settings
tool, then start Word then close it, then disable the
extra languages do you still get the additional settings?

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<<"Kris" <kls...@att.net(doNOTspam)> wrote in message news:0E588E2E-7F13-4A30...@microsoft.com...


Yes I still see the marks when I open Word in safe mode and I have Asian
Typography and Complex Scripts.
Thanks for your help on this!

Kris >>
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Let us know if this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

For Everyday MS Office tips to "use right away" -
http://microsoft.com/events/series/administrativetipsandtricks.mspx

Kris

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May 31, 2005, 10:37:01 AM5/31/05
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Yes, I'm logged in as an Administrator. I did a search for the particular
string you suggested and it brought up many, many files. Unfortunately, I'm
in a network environment and can not delete these files because they belong
to others throughout the company. I've done the settings you suggested. The
lines are still appearing.

"Bob Buckland ?:-)" wrote:

Kris

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Jun 15, 2005, 3:46:01 PM6/15/05
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Are you still there? I'm still seeing these marks after I've tried
everything you've suggested I try with the exception of deleting the files.
The string you gave me to try brought up several files on our server and I
can not delete these since they're documents from our entire company. Thank
you!

Elannia

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Jun 15, 2005, 9:25:46 PM6/15/05
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Kris,
Just try what Bob had told you...Close Word, Go to Start, All Programs,
Microsoft Office, Microsoft Office Tools, Microsoft Office 2003 Language
Settings, and remove any chinese from the enabled languages list or
Arabic. Worked for me. I did not have to delete any files, just did
what I wrote down and they were gone.

Kris Wrote:
> Are you still there? I'm still seeing these marks after I've tried
> everything you've suggested I try with the exception of deleting the
> files.
> The string you gave me to try brought up several files on our server
> and I
> can not delete these since they're documents from our entire company.
> Thank
> you!
>
> "Kris" wrote:

> -


> Yes, I'm logged in as an Administrator. I did a search for the
> particular
> string you suggested and it brought up many, many files.
> Unfortunately, I'm
> in a network environment and can not delete these files because they
> belong
> to others throughout the company. I've done the settings you
> suggested. The
> lines are still appearing.
>
> "Bob Buckland ?:-)" wrote:

> -


> Hi Kris,
>
> Are you logged in as Administrator? If not then
> some of the registry entries that control this may
> not be getting updated.
>

> Fron Start=Search delete all files found with the search string


> ~$*.*;*.doc
>
> Then with all Office apps closed if you enable an Arabic
> and a Chinese language choice through the

> Start=Programs=Microsoft Office Tools Language Settings


> tool, then start Word then close it, then disable the
> extra languages do you still get the additional settings?
>
> ===========
> "Kris" kls...@att.net(doNOTspam) wrote in message
> news:0E588E2E-7F13-4A30...@microsoft.com...
> Yes I still see the marks when I open Word in safe mode and I have
> Asian
> Typography and Complex Scripts.
> Thanks for your help on this!
>
> Kris
> --
> Let us know if this helped you,
>
> Bob Buckland ?:-)
> MS Office System Products MVP
>
> *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
>
> For Everyday MS Office tips to "use right away" -
>
> http://microsoft.com/events/series/administrativetipsandtricks.mspx
>
>
>

> --


--
Elannia

Kris

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Jun 16, 2005, 3:03:05 PM6/16/05
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I did what Bob suggested I about five times. I've done it. Our I.T. guy has
done it. These lines are still there. I will try it one more time. Thanks!

Bob Buckland ?:-) At Beautiful Downtown

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Jun 16, 2005, 3:07:51 PM6/16/05
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Hi Kris,

Probably a good thing you didn't delete the files
since I typed it wrong (ouch!).

The string should be
~$*.*;*.tmp

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<<"Kris" <kls...@att.net(doNOTspam)> wrote in message news:C5BA8FD4-50B7-43FF...@microsoft.com...


Are you still there? I'm still seeing these marks after I've tried
everything you've suggested I try with the exception of deleting the files.
The string you gave me to try brought up several files on our server and I
can not delete these since they're documents from our entire company. Thank
you! >>

Jay Freedman

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Jun 16, 2005, 4:16:35 PM6/16/05
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Hi Kris,

I'm going to go out on a limb here. I had a situation similar to yours,
where Word insisted that it had Asian Typography and Complex Scripts
enabled, it showed the corner marks, and for good measure it had a number of
options enabled for right-to-left text. But the Language Settings utility
said it had only US English enabled, and no amount of tinkering with
Normal.dot, the /a startup, temp files, or anything else seemed to have any
effect on it.

I finally resorted to spelunking in the registry, looking for the names of
languages that appeared in my mangled style definitions, such as Arabic
Saudi Arabia <ouch!> and comparing what I found to the Office Resource Kit.
The damage appeared in the key

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Common\
LanguageResources

There are a bunch of entries in that key whose names are just numbers (plus
a bunch of others with non-numeric names). Those numbers are Locale IDs that
correspond to languages -- or at least they're supposed to be. That is, the
documented LCID values are between 1000 and 2000. On my damaged system there
were a couple of dozen crazy values, such as 12604 and 60092.

Most of the entries had values of "ExplicitOff", but quite a few were set to
"On". I think the only one that should have the value "On" is 1033, which is
for US English (the only language I have installed). I set all the others to
"ExplicitOff" and started Word. Hallelujah, it worked! Word has been
behaving itself perfectly. So far I haven't seen any indication that it
wants any of those entries turned on again.

Good luck!

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Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org

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