XP Plus
Pat Glenn
most (if not all) of the extra products and features part of Vista and/or
free web downloads for users of XP.
Does anybody know how this will affect license keys for those who bought the
retail version of "The Plus"? Is free activation available on the web for
multiple installations? After all; If I can download everything for free,
does it really make sense to say I can only load the CDROM version onto one
computer?
Just wondering. (I have a couple computers that I'd like to add "The Plus".
I only have dial-up, so I'd rather not download 150 MB each time.)
Carey Frisch [MVP]
licensed for one (1) computer only.
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"Pat Glenn" <pgl...@telus.net> wrote in message news:1Ypvj.32716$FO1.15815@edtnps82...
Pat Glenn
contains for free anyway, does it really make sense to say I can only load
the CDROM version onto only one computer? The logic simply doesn't make
sence. Do you know if MicroSoft is planning on releasing a key activator
program for this particular product?
"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfr...@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
news:98A3D753-1EF2-4654...@microsoft.com...
Shenan Stanley
First off - where can you download the components for the "Microsoft Plus!"
or "Microsoft Plus! SuperPack" Windows XP that you speak of?
The main page for the "Microsoft Plus!" product states, "Many of the
features and tools that have been enjoyed for years now can be found in new
Microsoft titles and services including Windows Vista™." I don't see any
mention of "now can be downloaded for free for users of Windows XP..."
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/plus/default.mspx
In other words - since you said the "Plus!" pack and not the "Plus!
SuperPack" - where can you download these items for Windows XP:
Plus! for Windows XP includes:
- Plus! Themes
- Plus! Screen Savers
- Plus! Voice Command for Windows Media Player
- Plus! Personal DJ
- Plus! MP3 Converter
- Plus! CD Label Maker
- Plus! Speaker Enhancement
- Plus! 3D Visualizations for Windows Media Player
- Plus! Skins for Windows Media Player
- Plus! Hyperbowl
- Plus! Russian Square
- Plus! Labyrinth
Just because they are now included (as the web page says) in "new Microsoft
titles and services" does not mean the old stuff is now free. ;-) If you
can show me where most (3/4 or more?) of the above stuff can be downloaded
for free (legitimately) for Windows XP users - then you have a pretty valid
point. Otherwise - those products are still not freely available, are they?
;-)
Secondly - you may be dial-up - but I bet you have a friend/family member or
know someone that works someplace with high-speed internet who could
download them for you ONCE and then you have them Burn them to your own CD,
copy them to a USB thumb drive, etc...
No one says you have to download something over and over - and with CD/DVDs
as inexpensive as they are and as easy as they are to burn - it makes no
sense you would think you had to do that. ;-)
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Pat Glenn
> SuperPack" - where can you download these items for Windows XP:
"It would appear that I perhaps confused a couple of products. They are
quite similarly named. Thanks for the clarification.
> Secondly - you may be dial-up - but I bet you have a friend/family member
> or know someone that works someplace with high-speed internet who could
> download them for you ONCE and then you have them Burn them to your own
> CD, copy them to a USB thumb drive, etc...
Too bad you didn't bet money on this one. I'd have a nice wad 'bout now. I
live in a small rural community. High speed is not an option. It simply
isn't available here.
> No one says you have to download something over and over - and with
> CD/DVDs as inexpensive as they are and as easy as they are to burn - it
> makes no sense you would think you had to do that. ;-)
Except that with the 'Genuine Advantage" verification procedure, how do I
get the install (patches and updates) to work on a second machine? Wouldn't
this be an issue? And where exactly do they hide on my HD after they have
been installed? The other machines may not be necessarily be connected to
the internet. (Periodically I plug in a modem and update them directly.)
Shenan Stanley
>> In other words - since you said the "Plus!" pack and not the "Plus!
>> SuperPack" - where can you download these items for Windows XP:
> "It would appear that I perhaps confused a couple of products. They
> are quite similarly named. Thanks for the clarification.
But that did not answer the question of where to download said items...
Can you not copy/paste the links here?
>> Secondly - you may be dial-up - but I bet you have a friend/family
>> member or know someone that works someplace with high-speed
>> internet who could download them for you ONCE and then you have
>> them Burn them to your own CD, copy them to a USB thumb drive,
>> etc...
> Too bad you didn't bet money on this one. I'd have a nice wad 'bout
> now. I live in a small rural community. High speed is not an
> option. It simply isn't available here.
So your entire family and everyone you know lives in your town?
If you have a friend/family member/someone you can call or email with
high speed Internet Service and can tell them the various links to get
the products you want - I would bet they could spend $3 for the CD
and the mail to get it to you.
>> No one says you have to download something over and over - and with
>> CD/DVDs as inexpensive as they are and as easy as they are to burn
>> - it makes no sense you would think you had to do that. ;-)
> Except that with the 'Genuine Advantage" verification procedure,
> how do I get the install (patches and updates) to work on a second
> machine? Wouldn't this be an issue? And where exactly do they hide
> on my HD after they have been installed? The other machines may not
> be necessarily be connected to the internet. (Periodically I plug
> in a modem and update them directly.)
Once you have the download - you already passed the genuine advantage.
Installing them should not be a problem.
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Pat Glenn
product. As for the rest, you should know the following: For themes:
For Wallpaper
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/results.aspx?pocId=&freetext=wallpaper&DisplayLang=en
As well as many other utilities, add-ons, Etc, ad verbatum, ad naseum:
Are they exactly the same as the PLUS? No. They are not the exact same
downloads. It would appear that I was in error. (as stated in the last post)
But regardless, there is still a rather nice selection on MS's own download
site.
> So your entire family and everyone you know lives in your town?
Not quite. My parents have high speed where they live. But they don't have a
burner and if they did, I'd probably have to spend more time instructing
them how to use it than downloading stuff myself. They are just not that
computer savy.
> Once you have the download - you already passed the genuine advantage.
> Installing them should not be a problem.
That's a comfort. Now to find out where it hides them on my HD when it
downloads stuff...
Shenan Stanley
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.setup_deployment/browse_frm/thread/e1b69e74a763f368/b71a951201c2bb71#b71a951201c2bb71
Pat Glenn wrote:
> I've noticed that MicroSoft has discontinued "The Plus" for XP and
> has made most (if not all) of the extra products and features part
> of Vista and/or free web downloads for users of XP.
>
> Does anybody know how this will affect license keys for those who
> bought the retail version of "The Plus"? Is free activation
> available on the web for multiple installations? After all; If I
> can download everything for free, does it really make sense to say
> I can only load the CDROM version onto one computer?
>
> Just wondering. (I have a couple computers that I'd like to add
> "The Plus". I only have dial-up, so I'd rather not download 150 MB
> each time.)
Shenan Stanley wrote:
> First off - where can you download the components for the
> "Microsoft Plus!" or "Microsoft Plus! SuperPack" Windows XP that
> you speak of?
> The main page for the "Microsoft Plus!" product states, "Many of the
> features and tools that have been enjoyed for years now can be
> found in new Microsoft titles and services including Windows
> Vista™." I don't see any mention of "now can be downloaded for
> free for users of Windows XP..."
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/plus/default.mspx
>
> In other words - since you said the "Plus!" pack and not the "Plus!
> SuperPack" - where can you download these items for Windows XP:
>
> Plus! for Windows XP includes:
>
> - Plus! Themes
> - Plus! Screen Savers
> - Plus! Voice Command for Windows Media Player
> - Plus! Personal DJ
> - Plus! MP3 Converter
> - Plus! CD Label Maker
> - Plus! Speaker Enhancement
> - Plus! 3D Visualizations for Windows Media Player
> - Plus! Skins for Windows Media Player
> - Plus! Hyperbowl
> - Plus! Russian Square
> - Plus! Labyrinth
>
> Just because they are now included (as the web page says) in "new
> Microsoft titles and services" does not mean the old stuff is now
> free. ;-) If you can show me where most (3/4 or more?) of the
> above stuff can be downloaded for free (legitimately) for Windows
> XP users - then you have a pretty valid point. Otherwise - those
> products are still not freely available, are they? ;-)
>
> Secondly - you may be dial-up - but I bet you have a friend/family
> member or know someone that works someplace with high-speed
> internet who could download them for you ONCE and then you have
> them Burn them to your own CD, copy them to a USB thumb drive,
> etc...
> No one says you have to download something over and over - and with
> CD/DVDs as inexpensive as they are and as easy as they are to burn
> - it makes no sense you would think you had to do that. ;-)
Pat Glenn wrote (responses were snipoped/inline, so I left the quote that
way):
>> In other words - since you said the "Plus!" pack and not the "Plus!
>> SuperPack" - where can you download these items for Windows XP:
>
> "It would appear that I perhaps confused a couple of products. They
> are quite similarly named. Thanks for the clarification.
>
>> Secondly - you may be dial-up - but I bet you have a friend/family
>> member or know someone that works someplace with high-speed
>> internet who could download them for you ONCE and then you have
>> them Burn them to your own CD, copy them to a USB thumb drive,
>> etc...
>
> Too bad you didn't bet money on this one. I'd have a nice wad 'bout
> now. I live in a small rural community. High speed is not an
> option. It simply isn't available here.
>
>> No one says you have to download something over and over - and with
>> CD/DVDs as inexpensive as they are and as easy as they are to burn
>> - it makes no sense you would think you had to do that. ;-)
>
> Except that with the 'Genuine Advantage" verification procedure,
> how do I get the install (patches and updates) to work on a second
> machine? Wouldn't this be an issue? And where exactly do they hide
> on my HD after they have been installed? The other machines may not
> be necessarily be connected to the internet. (Periodically I plug
> in a modem and update them directly.)
Shenan Stanley wrote:
> But that did not answer the question of where to download said
> items... Can you not copy/paste the links here?
>
> So your entire family and everyone you know lives in your town?
>
> If you have a friend/family member/someone you can call or email
> with high speed Internet Service and can tell them the various
> links to get the products you want - I would bet they could spend
> $3 for the CD and the mail to get it to you.
>
> Once you have the download - you already passed the genuine
> advantage. Installing them should not be a problem.
Pat Glenn wrote:
> As I said previously, I misunderstood what was being said
> concerning the product. As for the rest, you should know the
> following: For themes:
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/results.aspx?NextOrPrevClause=1%7c-2362&DisplayLang=en&freetext=theme&sortCriteria=popularity&sortOrder=ascending&nr=20
>
> For Wallpaper
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/results.aspx?pocId=&freetext=wallpaper&DisplayLang=en
>
> As well as many other utilities, add-ons, Etc, ad verbatum, ad
> naseum:
> Are they exactly the same as the PLUS? No. They are not the exact
> same downloads. It would appear that I was in error. (as stated in
> the last post) But regardless, there is still a rather nice
> selection on MS's own download site.
>
>> So your entire family and everyone you know lives in your town?
>
> Not quite. My parents have high speed where they live. But they
> don't have a burner and if they did, I'd probably have to spend
> more time instructing them how to use it than downloading stuff
> myself. They are just not that computer savy.
You seemed to say in the last posting that you were confused by the
"Microsoft Plus!" vs "Microsoft Plus! SuperPack", not that you were confused
about the status of the product or what was said on the web page... But we
can write all that off to misunderstanding and move on.
Send them a thumb drive in the mail, have them copy and paste to it and mail
it back. It's no different than sending them a floppy diskette, etc at that
point. Drag and drop. ;-)
BTW - looks like you would have lost that bet you were saying you won...
*grin*
Ed Covney dot at dot
and has since Windows 95. Prior to Win 95, the Plus
stuff was on the OS CDs - just not installed by defult.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Plus!
For each version of Windows since '95, MS created an
OS "enhancement package" for those interested - free
download or send for the CD at a token charge.
Businesses never wanted 'Plus' (mostly games etc.) so they
were never included on the OS CDs since '95. But were
always available online free, or on CD nominal charge.
Even their Digital Media Edition was available for d/l (free)
as was their "Super Pack" which included both the XP Plus
and Digital stuff.
MS stopped the free downloads the day Vista was released
as everything in Plus for prior OS's and in the DME are std
in Vista. MS stopped it because, they don't want their old
OS's competing with Vista!
First, read the license on your XP Plus CD ROM. I think
it will tell you you can install it on any "genuine" XP PC.
If restricted, you couldn't pass the authenicating process
once installed.
But to be sure, contact Microsoft directly.
See: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/subscriptions/aa948864.aspx
and read the part that starts:
How many devices can I install the products on?
Ed