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data...@mail.ru

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Jan 10, 2010, 2:16:27 PM1/10/10
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I have a program that requires a substantial amount of free space on drive c
(system) during operation. Sometimes it exceeds the amount available.

Is there a way to increase the amount of drive c free space without
repartitioning? I have some free space on other drives and I am thinking
about this feature of mounting ntfs volumes.

How exactly is this done?


thanatoid

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Jan 10, 2010, 2:26:01 PM1/10/10
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http://www.theeldergeek.com/hard_drives_02.htm

data...@mail.ru

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Jan 10, 2010, 2:44:33 PM1/10/10
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"thanatoid" <wai...@the.exit.invalid> wrote in message
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Thanks, but I am not interested in theoretical considerations of
partitioning.

I am looking for a specific solution for a specific problem.


Bill in Co.

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Jan 10, 2010, 3:16:41 PM1/10/10
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data...@mail.ru wrote:
> I have a program that requires a substantial amount of free space on drive
> c
> (system) during operation. Sometimes it exceeds the amount available.
>
> Is there a way to increase the amount of drive c free space without
> repartitioning?

I see 2 options:
1) Remove some stuff
2) Extend the partition with a third party program.
How else could it be possible?


Peter Foldes

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Jan 10, 2010, 3:33:18 PM1/10/10
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> I am thinking about this feature of mounting ntfs volumes.


Are you saying that you are using Fat 32 and not NTFS

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Shenan Stanley

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Jan 10, 2010, 4:01:36 PM1/10/10
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You mean addding another drive and partitioning it but not giving it a
ltter - but a 'directory' on your C drive?

That does not increase your C drive size - no. You will still run out in
the same manner unless the proram in question is modified to store it's
temporary files/working files elsewhere.

My advice to you is to figure out how to change where the application in
question stores its working/temporary files as not to fill up your valuable
C drive space.

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Daave

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Jan 10, 2010, 4:17:32 PM1/10/10
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There is probably a way for you to resize the partition that has XP on
it.

But your use of the word "drive" is confusing since it can mean more
than one thing. How many physical drives do you have? How many
partitions do you currently have on the physical drive that contains C:?
How much Unallocated Space do you have on that drive? Do you keep your
data on a separate partition? (If so, hopefully C: contains your OS and
all your apps.)

Assuming that it is possible to resize your C: partition, one of these
free utilities (yes, it has to be a third-party program) can allow you
to do so:

EASEUS Partition Master 4.1.1 Home Edition
http://www.partition-tool.com/personal.htm

Partition Manager 2010 Free Edition
http://www.paragon-software.com/home/pm-express/download.html


Jose

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Jan 10, 2010, 5:34:01 PM1/10/10
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What program?

Many programs are configurable to use other drives besides the C drive
for work/storage/temporary files.

data...@mail.ru

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Jan 10, 2010, 5:50:39 PM1/10/10
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> I see 2 options:
> 1) Remove some stuff
> 2) Extend the partition with a third party program.

That's what I thought about to begin with.

But, then I came across this feature, which I do not quite understand.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc938934.aspx

> Are you saying that you are using Fat 32 and not NTFS

No.

> My advice to you is to figure out how to change where the application in
> question stores its working/temporary files as not to fill up your
> valuable C drive space.

The problem is the program (FineReader) does not seem to provide a setting
for this in options.

> But your use of the word "drive" is confusing since it can mean more than
> one thing. How many physical drives do you have? How many partitions do
> you currently have on the physical drive that contains C:? How much
> Unallocated Space do you have on that drive? Do you keep your data on a
> separate partition? (If so, hopefully C: contains your OS and all your
> apps.)
>
> Assuming that it is possible to resize your C: partition, one of these
> free utilities (yes, it has to be a third-party program) can allow you to
> do so:

I have one physical drive with several partitions and 0 unallocated space.
And I do not feel like resizing partitions at all.

Shenan Stanley

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Jan 10, 2010, 5:59:46 PM1/10/10
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data...@mail.ru wrote:
<snipped>

> The problem is the program (FineReader) does not seem to provide a
> setting for this in options.
<snipped>

Contacted them?
http://www.abbyy.com/support/

Dropping an email/making a call to see if you are just missing a setting
certainly would be easier than using a third party product to resize
partitions. Safer too.

C A Upsdell

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Jan 10, 2010, 6:19:38 PM1/10/10
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If you have directories containing files which you rarely access, you
could compress the directories.

data...@mail.ru

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Jan 10, 2010, 6:45:16 PM1/10/10
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> Contacted them?
> http://www.abbyy.com/support/
>
> Dropping an email/making a call to see if you are just missing a setting
> certainly would be easier than using a third party product to resize
> partitions. Safer too.

The reason I asked this question here is that I read about this feature:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc938934.aspx

and thought it might be applicable. If it is not applicable than this is it.


data...@mail.ru

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Jan 10, 2010, 6:46:24 PM1/10/10
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> Contacted them?
> http://www.abbyy.com/support/
>
> Dropping an email/making a call to see if you are just missing a setting
> certainly would be easier than using a third party product to resize
> partitions. Safer too.

The reason I asked this question here is that I read about this feature:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc938934.aspx

and thought it might be applicable. If it is not applicable then this is it.

data...@mail.ru

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Jan 10, 2010, 6:51:54 PM1/10/10
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"C A Upsdell" <""cupsdell\"@nos...@upsdell.com"> wrote in message
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> data...@mail.ru wrote:

> If you have directories containing files which you rarely access, you
> could compress the directories.

This won't work.


Daave

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Jan 10, 2010, 7:15:40 PM1/10/10
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data...@mail.ru wrote:

>> But your use of the word "drive" is confusing since it can mean more
>> than one thing. How many physical drives do you have? How many
>> partitions do you currently have on the physical drive that contains
>> C:? How much Unallocated Space do you have on that drive? Do you
>> keep your data on a separate partition? (If so, hopefully C:
>> contains your OS and all your apps.)
>>
>> Assuming that it is possible to resize your C: partition, one of
>> these free utilities (yes, it has to be a third-party program) can
>> allow you to do so:
>
> I have one physical drive with several partitions and 0 unallocated
> space. And I do not feel like resizing partitions at all.

How large is the C: partition and how much free space does it have? Does
it have any appreciable amount of data files on it (which would free up
much-needed space)?

Are you able to archive old data files to another medium? Depending upon
your current partitioning scheme, resizing C: might be the easiest and
wisest thing to do.


data...@mail.ru

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Jan 10, 2010, 7:27:04 PM1/10/10
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"Daave" <da...@example.com> wrote in message
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> data...@mail.ru wrote:

> How large is the C: partition and how much free space does it have? Does

> ...

Thanks for your input. But all I wanted from the members of this forum is a
clarification of one feature which has to do with mounting ntfs volumes. I
posted a link for a description of this feature a couple of times already.


Shenan Stanley

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Jan 10, 2010, 7:41:00 PM1/10/10
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data...@mail.ru wrote:


<snipped>
> The problem is the program (FineReader) does not seem to provide a
> setting for this in options.
<snipped>

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> http://www.abbyy.com/support/
>
> Dropping an email/making a call to see if you are just missing a
> setting certainly would be easier than using a third party product
> to resize partitions. Safer too.

data...@mail.ru wrote:
> The reason I asked this question here is that I read about this
> feature:
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc938934.aspx
>
> and thought it might be applicable. If it is not applicable than
> this is it.

And I already pointed out in my first response that does nothing for you.
It does not add space to your letter-labeled drive, it just mounts a
partition to a directory name instead of a drive letter. In other words...
Let's say you had two partitions (40GB each) and the first partition is
"C:\" and the second is mounted to "C:\second\". If you get the
"properties" of the "C:\" drive - it will be 40GB in size. So unless you
redirect the application to do its work in the "C:\second\" folder - you
gain nothing.

As for your reason - I understood it - but I believe your problem is better
resolved through the manufacturer/support of the actual product and the
configuration. ;-)

data...@mail.ru

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Jan 10, 2010, 8:15:59 PM1/10/10
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> And I already pointed out in my first response that does nothing for you.
> It does not add space to your letter-labeled drive, it just mounts a
> partition to a directory name instead of a drive letter. In other
> words... Let's say you had two partitions (40GB each) and the first
> partition is "C:\" and the second is mounted to "C:\second\". If you get
> the "properties" of the "C:\" drive - it will be 40GB in size. So unless
> you redirect the application to do its work in the "C:\second\" folder -
> you gain nothing.

Well, thanks.


Daave

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Jan 10, 2010, 8:16:03 PM1/10/10
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I misunderstood. Hopefully Shenan's explanation will suffice.

(I was thinking you were also looking for a way to get "More free space
on drive c.")


data...@mail.ru

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Jan 10, 2010, 8:29:02 PM1/10/10
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> I misunderstood. Hopefully Shenan's explanation will suffice.
>

Yes.

> (I was thinking you were also looking for a way to get "More free space on
> drive c.")

That was the objective, but I was interested in considering only one
particular method.


Daave

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Jan 10, 2010, 8:38:15 PM1/10/10
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I know, but I figured if the method you were interested in wasn't
tenable, then you would be open to other methods that would accomplish
your goal. Anyway, good luck with everything!


Shenan Stanley

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Jan 10, 2010, 8:35:20 PM1/10/10
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data...@mail.ru wrote:
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> That was the objective, but I was interested in considering only one
> particular method.

While that may be all you wanted - this is an open forum/newsgroup where
volunteers help their peers. If one was just to answer your direct question
(and if you review your direct question - you were not as specific as you
believe; you asked, "Is there a way to increase the amount of drive c free
space without repartitioning?") some would feel this did not actually
help/assist you so they provide (freely) their experience and knowledge.

If you knew everything about what you were doing and all the
possibilitiews - you would not have asked the initial question. ;-)
Sometimes it just takes a different perspective to come up with the new
course of action that is faster, better, less expensive and so on.

C A Upsdell

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Jan 10, 2010, 9:14:40 PM1/10/10
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Because?

data...@mail.ru

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Jan 11, 2010, 7:51:55 AM1/11/10
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>>> If you have directories containing files which you rarely access, you
>>> could compress the directories.
>>
>> This won't work.
>
> Because?

Because I am not interested in doing it.


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