XP activation issue
Peasant
Something that has me irked with activation is that twice now I have had
to reactivate when I haven't even changed any hardware. First time was
after installing an older version of Winamp and it said I had to reboot
the computer, upon reboot it said my hardware had changed significantly
and I had to reactivate (just prior to installing Winamp I had played a
Starforce protected game). The second time it happened was after
installing a Starforce protected game and it said I needed to reboot to
install the SF drivers. Again, upon reboot it said I had to reactivate
because my hardware had changed significantly. The first time I called
MS about it and the guy blamed it on my hardware, I blamed it on their
faulty activation scheme. This is something I am going to keep a close
eye on, especially if it is related to Starforce. I will make a big
stink about it but I have to be sure who the culprit is first.
I have one small question regarding XP activation too. On a web forum
someone is saying that XP has a total hard coded limit on the max amount
of activations you can do with XP. He said he was told by the MS person
doing his activation that it is stored on a central server and the total
times you can activate is kept secret. Anyone hear that before? I
thought the amount of activations was reset every six months and it is
set to six.
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
Someone is wrong and spreading FUD, hopefully no one depends on this
"someone" for any type of information.
There is no limit and never has been a limit for the number of activations
on the original computer.
The "6" you heard is also a myth.
Those and other myths are mostly spread by Microsoft critics relying on fear
instead of facts to spread their feelings toward Microsoft.
You can install and activate as often as you want and the worst case is a
call to Microsoft for activation.
More activation facts here:
http://aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.htm
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Peasant
> "On a web forum someone is saying..."
> Someone is wrong and spreading FUD, hopefully no one depends on this
> "someone" for any type of information.
> There is no limit and never has been a limit for the number of activations
> on the original computer.
> The "6" you heard is also a myth.
> Those and other myths are mostly spread by Microsoft critics relying on fear
> instead of facts to spread their feelings toward Microsoft.
> You can install and activate as often as you want and the worst case is a
> call to Microsoft for activation.
>
> More activation facts here:
> http://aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.htm
>
OK, thx, but I'm still not clear on this issue because I know a friend
with an OEM copy of XP and he also got a system message during a
reinstall of XP that he had exceeded the activation limit.
Here is a link to the forum post I am talking about.
http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/boards/bbs/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=007710
"Last night I reinstalled Windows XP -- the same copy I bought 3 or 4
years ago -- and have reinstalled with every upgrade and when my system
crashed badly or just for fun (maybe 3 times a year ?? maybe more ??).
When I activated Microsoft refused -- indicating I had exceeded the
"activation limit" for my copy of XP."
Also, what about this issue of XP requiring activation on me twice when
I never changed any hardware? I'm thinking it may be due to the
Starforce copy protection drivers. If I can prove it is I want to start
a ticket with Microsoft because such copy protection systems should not
be allowed to be used on Microsoft operating systems if it is triggering
reactivation. Also this Starforce CP installs hidden drivers that bypass
the MS signed driver protection system. Same goes for SecureRom. Why
does Microsoft allow this?
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
is required.
At that point simply choose the option to activate by phone, call Microsoft
at the displayed number, done in about 5 minutes.
As for needing to activation without making hardware changes, I am unsure.
Some things that do cause it are listed in the article by Alex in my last
post.
Other things can be:
Driver issues/changes
BIOS issues/changes
Overclocking
And more...
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Peasant
> The activation limit hit only means a call to Microsoft's activation center
> is required.
> At that point simply choose the option to activate by phone, call Microsoft
> at the displayed number, done in about 5 minutes.
That's skirting the issue at hand. Why would it say "activation limit
reached" if there is no such limit?
> As for needing to activation without making hardware changes, I am unsure.
> Some things that do cause it are listed in the article by Alex in my last
> post.
> Other things can be:
> Driver issues/changes
Yea, this is what I'm driving at. Why are Starforce CP hidden drivers
even allowed to install on XP if drivers are supposed to be signed? Why
would buggered drivers cause a reactivation flag if it is based on
hardware? When this issue has happened to me it says I only have 10 days
left to activate. Why only 10 days when MS say 30 days? Is this because
I'm suspected of being a pirate? And then I've got to call someone at MS
while I get treated like a possible pirate. I don't like being treated
with suspicion when the problem is within WindowsXP itself.
Peasant
Microsoft customer service rep if there is no hard coded activation limit?
"But, this is a "hard activation limit" according to the customer
representative I spoke with on the phone last night. Thus, there is a
"counter" in the on-line activation-system counting how many times one
activates a single copy of Windows XP. He professed not to know how many
times before hitting the limit -- he said it was a Microsoft secret --
and obviously not something they want to advertise -- really evil --
seriously -- as I thought I could use my owned-copy indefinitely"
ANONYMOUS
> seriously -- as I thought I could use my owned-copy indefinitely"
Yes you can use your bought retail version software indefinitely.
However, what normally happens is that after sometime, people become
adventurous and decide to install on other systems they might have which
are currently on Pre XP OS. This is where the problem starts as they
are coming closer to what you and I will call piracy!.
Have you got any particular problems with activation? Have you tried
phoning the MS agent? They don't kill you know!!
hth
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
somewhat accurate.
That message comes up when you have activated over a certain # of times in a
short period of time.
At that point you have exceeded the activation limit for internet activation
leaving phone activation as the only option.
Drivers ARE hardware, at least they affect hardware to a point that the
hardware may seem as new or replaced.
Nothing says drivers are supposed to be signed. Microsoft would like it
that way, but many hardware manufacturers do not submit their drivers for
the necessary costly certification.
30 days initially for activation, but you are not referring to initial
activation.
The quote from the Microsoft customer service rep in your other post is pure
fantasy.
I have known too many that have activated too many times for there to be
such a limit.
As I said before, FUD spread by the Microsoft critics.
Some of the critics feel the need to spread FUD since they are incompetent
otherwise.
Ask for a reputable source next time you communicate.
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Alias
Activation only affects honest, paying customers and does nothing
whatsoever to stop piracy. The same is true of WGA. MS made billions off
of Win9x/NT/2K so revenue loss due to piracy is a lame excuse at best.
The question I have is if the money used to pay activation operators/PA
and WGA programmers is less or more than what would supposedly by lost
by "casual copying". Add customer dissatisfaction to the picture and I
think MS made a big mistake with their folly of treating their customer
base as criminals and, in the long run, when someone comes up with an OS
that rivals Windows, people will drop Windows like a hot potato.
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>
> OK, thx, but I'm still not clear on this issue because I know a friend
> with an OEM copy of XP and he also got a system message during a
> reinstall of XP that he had exceeded the activation limit.
>
That message is somewhat misleading. As there is no sound technical
reason for the average user (or anyone else, for that matter) to format
and reinstall the OS frequently (more than once every 120 days), the
dialog box was designed with the presumption that multiple installations
are being performed.
There's no limit to the number of times you can reinstall and
activate the same WinXP license on the same PC. Nor is there ever a
charge. Nor does a Product Key (so long as it's not an evaluation
license) ever expire. If it's been more than 120 days since you last
activated that specific Product Key, you'll most likely be able to
activate via the Internet without problem. If it's been less, you might
have to make a 5 minute phone call.
Here are the facts pertaining to activation:
Piracy Basics - Microsoft Product Activation
http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/basics/activation/
Windows Product Activation (WPA)
http://www.aumha.org/a/wpa.htm
>
> Also, what about this issue of XP requiring activation on me twice when
> I never changed any hardware?
Like any another technical solution, WPA isn't 100% perfect. Problems
and glitches do pop up now and then. If it occurs again, It may be that
the activation wasn't properly recorded in the system's registry, or
that portion of the registry has been damaged. Try this solution, posted
by Carey Frisch, MS-MVP:
Boot into "Safe Mode" by pressing (F8) during a reboot.
Go to Start > Run and type: regsvr32 regwizc.dll , and hit enter.
Then go again to Start > Run and type: regsvr32 licdll.dll , and hit
enter again.
> I'm thinking it may be due to the
> Starforce copy protection drivers.
I suppose it's possible. You'll need to take the issue up with the
manufacturers of Starforce, whatever that is.
> If I can prove it is I want to start
> a ticket with Microsoft because such copy protection systems should not
> be allowed to be used on Microsoft operating systems if it is triggering
> reactivation.
How could Microsoft possibly control the quality/compatibility of
another company's products?
> Also this Starforce CP installs hidden drivers that bypass
> the MS signed driver protection system. Same goes for SecureRom. Why
> does Microsoft allow this?
Microsoft offers other software vendors and device driver manufacturers
the opportunity (for a price, of course) to have their products tested
and, if acceptable, certified by Microsoft for a digital signature.
Many software and device driver manufacturers, for reasons of their own,
choose not to make this investment in their own products. So Microsoft
does all that it can legally do; it warns the user that the product
being installed has not been Microsoft-tested, and leaves the decision
to proceed where it properly belongs - in the hands of the computer
user. Do you really want Microsoft (or any other corporation or
government agency) to dictate to you what software you may or may not
install on your computer?
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kurttrail
> OK, thx, but I'm still not clear on this issue because I know a
> friend
> with an OEM copy of XP and he also got a system message during a
> reinstall of XP that he had exceeded the activation limit. <snip>
Because MS is a scumbag corporation and is deliberately trying to con
it's customers into buying more copies of WinXP than they really need.
MS business model preys on suckers! Just look at MS's corporate
suckers, that MS gets to them to pay twice for the same OS with VL
licensing!
Activation is just a way to get small businesses and individual
consumers to pay for the same OS more than once.
MS would make PT Barnum very damned proud!
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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
Peasant
>>seriously -- as I thought I could use my owned-copy indefinitely"
>
>
> Yes you can use your bought retail version software indefinitely.
> However, what normally happens is that after sometime, people become
> adventurous and decide to install on other systems they might have which
> are currently on Pre XP OS. This is where the problem starts as they
> are coming closer to what you and I will call piracy!.
>
> Have you got any particular problems with activation? Have you tried
> phoning the MS agent? They don't kill you know!!
>
> hth
Are you paying attention? I quoted what someone else posted on a web
forum. I don't have any problem myself. If you read what I quoted you
would indeed see that he did phone a MS agent. That's what my query is
about. He was told by the MS agent that there is a hard coded limit on
the number of times you can install XP. Other's are saying that is not
true. Why did the MS agent tell him that if it's not true?
Peasant
> I feel "activation limit reached" is a bad choice of words, however it is
> somewhat accurate.
> That message comes up when you have activated over a certain # of times in a
> short period of time.
> At that point you have exceeded the activation limit for internet activation
> leaving phone activation as the only option.
>
> Drivers ARE hardware, at least they affect hardware to a point that the
> hardware may seem as new or replaced.
> Nothing says drivers are supposed to be signed. Microsoft would like it
> that way, but many hardware manufacturers do not submit their drivers for
> the necessary costly certification.
>
> 30 days initially for activation, but you are not referring to initial
> activation.
>
> The quote from the Microsoft customer service rep in your other post is pure
> fantasy.
> I have known too many that have activated too many times for there to be
> such a limit.
> As I said before, FUD spread by the Microsoft critics.
> Some of the critics feel the need to spread FUD since they are incompetent
> otherwise.
> Ask for a reputable source next time you communicate.
>
I did quote a reputable source, a MS agent. It was he who was spreading
the FUD and not the poster on the forum. Why don't you go read the forum
post I gave you a link to and see for yourself.
Peasant
> Microsoft offers other software vendors and device driver
> manufacturers the opportunity (for a price, of course) to have their
> products tested and, if acceptable, certified by Microsoft for a digital
> signature. Many software and device driver manufacturers, for reasons of
> their own, choose not to make this investment in their own products. So
> Microsoft does all that it can legally do; it warns the user that the
> product being installed has not been Microsoft-tested, and leaves the
> decision to proceed where it properly belongs - in the hands of the
> computer user. Do you really want Microsoft (or any other corporation
> or government agency) to dictate to you what software you may or may not
> install on your computer?
>
>
No, there is no warning that these drivers are not signed. They just
install on a reboot and the only way to know they are installed is to
look at hidden devices in device manager. I don't want Microsoft telling
me what software I can install but I do expect them to put a stop to
allowing these copy protection companies installing hidden drivers that
have been shown to cause havoc with some people's DVD-RW's and systems.
If Vista can't do that for us then I see no reason to buy it.
kurttrail
Because the PA phone reps probably get a commission on any licenses
they con people into buying unnecessarily.
kurttrail
Actually you quoted someone else, who you've probably never met in
person, CLAIMING what a MS rep told them, which is just plain old
hearsay.
That is hardly a reputable source.
Michael Stevens
Peasant <po...@peasant.here> replied with a ;-)
What makes you so sure the source of your information is telling the truth
about what the MS agent said? I can't imagine them ever getting that answer
from an activation phone call. It just isn't true about the limit.
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Jupiter Jones [MVP]
"He also may have been incorrect in what he said." referring to the
statements made by the Microsoft rep.
It seems even the poster you quote has doubts.
Or just as likely there was a misunderstanding between the two.
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Peasant
> What makes you so sure the source of your information is telling the truth
> about what the MS agent said? I can't imagine them ever getting that answer
> from an activation phone call. It just isn't true about the limit.
>
The source is trustworthy.
Peasant
> Actually you quoted someone else, who you've probably never met in
> person, CLAIMING what a MS rep told them, which is just plain old
> hearsay.
>
> That is hardly a reputable source.
>
Close enough. ;-)
Michael Stevens
Peasant <po...@peasant.here> replied with a ;-)
Then he misunderstood what the tech told him, because it is just plain
wrong.
kurttrail
Peasant
> Then he misunderstood what the tech told him, because it is just plain
> wrong.
Or maybe the Microsoft dude didn't really know so made up some BS story.
It does happen, you know?
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
up, they misunderstood each other or any number of other possibilities does
not change the fact that the information is wrong.
You are free to believe your source.
BTW, in another post you said "I did quote a reputable source, a MS agent"
Actually you don't, you are quoting someone who is stating what a Microsoft
agent stated, unless you talked to the Microsoft tech personally, you can
not quote that person with authority.
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Michael Stevens
Peasant <po...@peasant.here> replied with a ;-)
I highly doubt it, your reputable source was probably confused or pray tell;
plain out lying. There is just no reason for an activation agent to give
false information like your "reputable" source quoted.
But may I ask, do you get the point that the information no matter where you
think it came from was wrong? I would like to believe you will not continue
to disseminate this wrong information from your so called reputable source.
Peasant
> I highly doubt it, your reputable source was probably confused or pray tell;
> plain out lying.
First he is accused of spreading FUD and now it is suggested he is a
liar. Nice way to talk about a paying Microsoft customer.
>There is just no reason for an activation agent to give
> false information like your "reputable" source quoted.
> But may I ask, do you get the point that the information no matter where you
> think it came from was wrong? I would like to believe you will not continue
> to disseminate this wrong information from your so called reputable source.
Well, someone was confused but I'm not sure who it was so I will drop
the subject.
Jimmy D.
number of times you can activate Windows using THIS Product Key has been
exceeded". (Same machine with NO hardware changes of any kind in the past 3
years.) The Wizard gives me a link that takes me to an MS site where my only
option is to PURCHASE another copy of Windows. This AIN'T gonna happen.
However, the site does say "if you feel you have reached this page in error,
or something to that effect, please return to the Activation Wizard and click
the 'Telephone' button". I did this and got disconnected before I could talk
to anyone.(I won't push buttons, no matter what). At any rate, I have not
yet tried again out of hesitation because, as I stated earlier, I WILL NOT
pay for another Product Key when I've already purchased the software once.
IF I must pay again, I'll wait for the release of Vista and buy and run that
until I can't run IT anymore either.
Anyway, this brings me to my next thought. That STUPID 30 day activation
period. I suspect this may have something to do with why I got the message
that I did. Here's why. I restored my PC in Jan.. A couple of weeks
later(2 or 3), I ran into some virus trouble. Nothing severe, just enough to
cause my computer to act up a little. Ran all my utilities, Antivirus,
spyware, etc. and it just seemed to run a bit slower than usual, even
considering the amount of software I have installed. At this point I
decided to go ahead and restore it again. Upon booting to Windows for the
first time after restoration, I immediately tried to activate and got said
message. Now, it is my suspition that there may be, shall we say, a "flaw"
in there activation system that, if re-activated within 30 days of a previous
activation, "misreads" the ID and hashmarks as one trying to activate a
single version on a different machine. However, since I am, by no means, an
expert and do not work for MS, I am basically just guessing.
That's all I have. Any thoughts on my thought and information regarding
whether or not I have to pay for another Key would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Jimmy D.
Shenan Stanley
Activate by phone instead of over the Internet.
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Jimmy D.
a fee involved??!! If so, I'll continue to run ME until the release of Vista.
Shenan Stanley
> Thanks for the response, but it still doesn't answer my question.
> Is there a fee involved??!! If so, I'll continue to run ME until
> the release of Vista.
Fee? For what?
Unless the number you are calling is not local/1-800/888/free -> then there
is no charge.
Activate your Windows XP.
DrinkMe
<Jim...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>Thanks for the response, but it still doesn't answer my question. Is there
>a fee involved??!! If so, I'll continue to run ME until the release of Vista.
>
No, no fee is involved.
How to activate by phone:
NoWaySpammers
obsessive about reinstalling in order to keep the machine clean - but
that is another issue)!
However, when recently doing a reinstall, I got this message to call
them for the first time since I bought XP Pro .......And I reinstall A LOT!
A few weeks later I HAD to reinstall due to the whole system slowing and
falling over, and it happened again - Strange thing is, and THANK YOU
Microsoft, every time I have to call it costs me MONEY to use software I
have already legitimately purchased...and that annoys me....not my fault
I have to reinstall due to the OS falling over...!!
And I bet Microsoft have never thought of that one..! - Or probably they
have and it is a premium phone number that costs me even more....
Also - The call centre was in India and on no occasion were they
prepared or able to answer why this telephone issue had occurred....
Have fun one and all...........
PS - My PC has not changed one bit since I first bought an original and
retail version of XP........
PPS - I like the idea that this message might come up if you reinstall
within the 30 day period - Is that true...!
NoWaySpammers
However, you might regard the cost of a phone call as a "FEE", that you
should not have to pay.
Have Microfun.....
PS - All of outside the USA have to pay for phone calls to reactivate.....
NoWaySpammers
phone.....
Is that not clear...?
> If somebody else who actually knows what they're talking about could answer
> my question, I would be much obliged. Thanks.
Bob I
Jimmy D. wrote:
> If somebody else who actually knows what they're talking about could answer
> my question, I would be much obliged. Thanks.
>
> "Shenan Stanley" wrote:
>
>
Jimmy D.
fee or charge for the phone call(which for me is a free call anyway), but
rather to the Software in question, at least your response had some thought
behind it.
As for the 30 day thing, I don't know if it's true or not. As I said
earlier, I'm no expert. It's just a suspition I have and one, that if you
really think about it, makes a little bit of sense. For example, I restored
my pc and activated without incident. Les than 30 days later(length of
initial activation period), I restored it again and this time, and for the
first time, got that message.
BTW, I also frequently restore my machine and have never gotten this
message, or another one like it. And, while we're on the subject, why does
it have to be a NEW key? Why can't they just "reset" your original one,
which, as I recall, is what was mentioned on an episode of TechTV a while
back?
Jimmy D.
case, I'll go ahead and, once again, replace ME with XP and see what happens.
Again, thank you.
JDD
P.S. Do you have any thoughts on that 30 day period idea? Just curious.
Shenan Stanley
> Thanks for the response, but it still doesn't answer my question.
> Is there a fee involved??!! If so, I'll continue to run ME until
> the release of Vista.
Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Fee? For what?
> Unless the number you are calling is not local/1-800/888/free ->
> then there is no charge.
> Activate your Windows XP.
Jimmy D,
There is no fee to activate a legitimate license of Windows XP.
Call, give them the numbers, get the numbers - activate windows, move on.
NoWaySpammers
would like it seriously answered (not the fee bit - I have got that!)
......And the Indians certainly don't know what it is!....and they can't
answer a straight question either...!
Can anyone say why this reactivation by phone issue has arrived after 4
years of reinstalling XP probably 9 times with no requirement to have to
call a blo*dy call centre...!!!!!
Dontcha just love Uncle Bill?
Have even more Micro fun.....
Shenan Stanley
Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Activate by phone instead of over the Internet.
Jimmy D. wrote:
> Thanks for the response, but it still doesn't answer my
> question. Is there a fee involved??!! If so, I'll continue to
> run ME until the release of Vista.
Shenan wrote:
> Fee? For what?
> Unless the number you are calling is not local/1-800/888/free ->
> then there is no charge.
> Activate your Windows XP.
Jimmy D. wrote:
> If somebody else who actually knows what they're talking about
> could answer my question, I would be much obliged. Thanks.
Bob wrote:
> No, Microsoft does NOT charge an activation fee.
Jimmy D. wrote:
> Thanks, Bob. That's the kind of answer I was looking for. This
> being the case, I'll go ahead and, once again, replace ME with XP
> and see what happens.
No Fee.
No Fee.
No Fee.
As for your other idea behind why you had to activate again.. and cannot do
it over the Internet...
It's 120 days. You cannot activate (usually) the same copy of Windows XP
within 120 days or it might give you the badly phrased message. A Google
search will bring up dozens/hundreds/thousands of hits on the message and
the many arguments behind its poor wording.
However - even in these cases - if legitimate software is involved - a free
phone call is all it takes to activate.
"How do I activate after the 30 day grace period?"
After logon, the activation wizard will start and if you have internet
access, activate over the internet or choose to activate by phone, then
follow the prompts to activate.
Other information:
a.. You may receive a message that you have exceeded the allowed
installations to install XP and you will be prompted to call the telephone
number listed on the screen. **** This is a toll free call where available.
****
(NOTICE - WHERE AVAILABLE!)
a.. Other than supplying the Activation Center with the 50 digit key,
nothing else should or needs to be conveyed. If you did not register, there
will not be any record of your personal identity transmitted during the
activation. If the optional registration was completed, then that
information will be transmitted during the activation process.
a.. You will be given a 42 digit key to activate XP on the new PC.
DONE!
Search using Google!
http://www.google.com/
(How-to: http://www.google.com/intl/en/help/basics.html )
Jimmy D.
If by "legitimate" you are referring to "Genuine", it dern well better be.
After all, I didn't just go to the street corner, hand some guy $200 and get
an unpackaged CD. Rather, I PURCHASED my copy from a reputable retailer in
the FULL retail packaging. You might actually recognize their slogan, "That
was easy".
At any rate, I already got the answer I was looking for, so I am done here
and there is no need to reply further as you will just be talking to yourself.
NoWaySpammers
have legitimately purchased...or is this yet again mother America (aka
Mr. Gates) not realising what happens in the rest of the world...!
Just a thought...and I bet that gets loads of sparks.......
Shenan Stanley
<snip>
> At any rate, I already got the answer I was looking for, so I am
> done here and there is no need to reply further as you will just be
> talking to yourself.
Jimmy,
In many ways - many here felt like they were anyway. *grin*
Shenan Stanley
It doesn't happen all the time but is usually associated with a major
change(usually hardware). You said you restored the system to an earlier
date - was it a date before you had activated it after the last restore?
Yep - it sometimes screws up.
Yes - it happens.
Yes you can backup your activation..
A Google search would have brought pages like:
http://netsecurity.about.com/od/windowsxp/qt/aaqtwinxp0829.htm
and
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=198241
and
http://articles.networktechs.com/43-p1.php
and many more.
Bob I
activate so I wouldn't have an opinion on that.
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
Canada is outside the USA and activates on a toll free number.
Are you sure about everywhere else?
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Jupiter Jones [MVP]
All they do is activate.
If there is any problem much beyond the obvious, you need to contact
support.
The Why part is a support question and if you want support, you need to call
the appropriate number.
Asking support questions of the activation crew is not unlike calling
Wal-Mart customer service and asking then for details on your car in their
maintenance bay.
Just because it is the same company is no reason to expect them to know the
technical reasons of why.
If you ask questions out of their scope, they can not answer.
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NoStop
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:
You could use this quick step to easy keyless activation ...
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NoWaySpammers
> Not true.
> Canada is outside the USA and activates on a toll free number.
> Are you sure about everywhere else?
>
Ok - Exceptions to all rules.....Let's say in Europe - I have to pay......
Paddy
"NoWaySpammers" <fatc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Last week I had to re-activate my Windows XP by phone - toll-free in
Melbourne, Australia. The recorded sheila's voice was even an Aussie accent
(that is, no accent - Aussies don't have an accent; only Yanks and Poms and
Kiwis and ........ everyone else I suppose)
:-)
Paddy
JayJay
Typical ocker dickhead.
gypsyroja
months ago that I installed some extra memory. Shortly thereafter, my
computer crashed completely and we had to reinstall everything. I have
reactivated three times already and still get the window that says I need to
reactivate. No one on microsoft phone support has been able to help. They
want to charge ME for their glitch. I haven't changed anything for the past
three months, but they still want me to reactivate EVERY THREE DAYS!!!! this
is driving me CRAZY!!! can anyone help?????
"Peasant" wrote:
> Anyone get the below happen to them before?
>
> Something that has me irked with activation is that twice now I have had
> to reactivate when I haven't even changed any hardware. First time was
> after installing an older version of Winamp and it said I had to reboot
> the computer, upon reboot it said my hardware had changed significantly
> and I had to reactivate (just prior to installing Winamp I had played a
> Starforce protected game). The second time it happened was after
> installing a Starforce protected game and it said I needed to reboot to
> install the SF drivers. Again, upon reboot it said I had to reactivate
> because my hardware had changed significantly. The first time I called
> MS about it and the guy blamed it on my hardware, I blamed it on their
> faulty activation scheme. This is something I am going to keep a close
> eye on, especially if it is related to Starforce. I will make a big
> stink about it but I have to be sure who the culprit is first.
>
> I have one small question regarding XP activation too. On a web forum
> someone is saying that XP has a total hard coded limit on the max amount
> of activations you can do with XP. He said he was told by the MS person
> doing his activation that it is stored on a central server and the total
> times you can activate is kept secret. Anyone hear that before? I
> thought the amount of activations was reset every six months and it is
> set to six.
>
Rick
calling MS and it finally quit after about 2 or 3 weeks. I have no idea
what caused it since I had not done anything to the computer - it just
started one day.
Carlos CZ
Restart on security mode, do you get the same request?
Carlos
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kurttrail
> Hi Gips
>
> Restart on security mode, do you get the same request?
I'm new to XP. What is "security mode?" Is that like the Bat Cave for
Windows?
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And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."
Carlos CZ
I think you're a extremelly false person
How can you say "Is that like the Bat Cave for Windows?
If you are asking What is it ??
If you dont know it ??
At least, if you ask that on that way, try to justify what you say
Carlos
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Bruce Chambers
> kurttrail
>
> I think you're a extremelly false person
>
> How can you say "Is that like the Bat Cave for Windows?
> If you are asking What is it ??
> If you dont know it ??
> At least, if you ask that on that way, try to justify what you say
>
Kurt was being sarcastic, of course. What he meant to convey is that
there is no such thing as a "security mode" in WinXP.
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"Bruce Chambers" <bcha...@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
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kurttrail
> kurttrail
>
> I think you're a extremelly false person
Well, I wasn't being completely honest, as I'm not new to XP, but Bruce
is right, I was being sarcastic. That is my Jersey Boy upbringing
shining through!
> How can you say "Is that like the Bat Cave for Windows?
I was making a joke. One you obviously didn't get.
> If you are asking What is it ??
I was pointing out that you don't know what it is.
> If you dont know it ??
I am quite familar with Safe Mode.
> At least, if you ask that on that way, try to justify what you say
Hit F8 on an English version of Windows XP after you BIOS loads, but
before Windows starts to boot.
Is there an option to boot into "security mode?" No. So it is not me
that really needs to justify anything.