Need to disable offer from Outlook Express "to free up disk space, outlook express can compact messages"
Kevin J. Nielsen
disk space, outlook express can compact messages."
I have read about this and I understand it does not diminish the integrity
of my messages.
However, the problem I have is that I cannot stand it when programs like
this keep bugging me relentlessly until I do what they want me to do. I
want to have the choice to say yes or no. This program does not give me
that choice because it keeps bugging me until it gets its way.
I would greatly appreciate it if someone could tell me how to stop these
annoying pop-ups.
Thank You very much
Keven
You Know Who ~
have. You either let things go too long (in which case you should get the
message) or you have enourmous space requirements (do you keep ALL of your
emails?). The prudent thing to do is to compact periodically, manually
before the message screams at you to do something you should have already
done.
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PA Bear
OE-specific newsgroup, Kevin?]
It can't be disabled, nor would you want to do so.
Compact all OE folders manually on a regular basis and you'll never be
nagged to do so by Automatic Compacting.
Yes, you /do/ need to compact all folders on a regular basis to avoid
corruption (e.g., loss of messages). See
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/filecorruption.mspx
General OE Caveats:
- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
folders created for this purpose.
- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.
- Disable Background Compacting [not available in SP2] and frequently
perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline". More at
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm
- WinXP SP2 only: Do not shut down your machine while Windows is
automatically compacting your message store.
- Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also cause such
corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.
--
OE-specific newsgroup:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
Donna Aten
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Kevin J. Nielsen
want to. However, I would still like the decision to be mine. I wish to
have a choice but Microsoft gives me no choice. I guess it was in one of
the updates I received from Microsoft. Thank you, that gives me a clue, I
could start uninstalling the updates until the problem goes away.
Keven
"You Know Who ~" <you.kn...@att.net> wrote in message
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Gordon
> Thank you for your response. It is nice to know I can compact manually if
> I
> want to. However, I would still like the decision to be mine. I wish to
> have a choice but Microsoft gives me no choice. I guess it was in one of
> the updates I received from Microsoft. Thank you, that gives me a clue, I
> could start uninstalling the updates until the problem goes away.
>
> Keven
The reason it was changed to automatic was that if you do not compact OE
folders on a regular basis (and the setting for the automatic compaction is
having launched OE 100 times - so if you only open it once a day then
automatic compaction is only offered just over every THREE months.....)
there is grave danger of folder corruption.....and there were many posts on
the OE groups complaining about sudden corruption of folders and loss of
data, all due to not compacting on a regular basis.
Ron Sommer
news:OlCKW$PdHHA...@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
Actually, the Compact Folder Count is not changed until you close OE or
close an Identity by switching Identities.
Each Identity keeps its own Compact Folder Count.
Compacting is only done for the current Identity.
So if you compact before closing OE, you won't get the compaction message.
--
Ronald Sommer
Jerry Ed
Click Start, point to Programs, point to Accessories, point to System Tools,
and then click Scheduled Tasks.
Add Scheduled Task
Under the Task tab > Run: , type C:\Tasks\RunTasks.bat
Under the Task tab > Start in: , type C:\Tasks
Under the Task tab > Run as: , your computer name\your account name
(Note: the account name must have a password (not blank), for Scheduled Task
service to run)
Under the Task tab > check the box for "Enabled (scheduled task runs at
specified time)"
Under the Schedule tab > Schedule Task:, enter Daily
Under the Schedule tab > Start time:, enter 1:00AM
Under the Schedule tab > Every:, enter 1
Hit OK and exit .
Open Windows Explorer.
Create the directory Tasks on the C: drive (C:\Tasks)
Use Notepad to create the following .bat files and .reg file in C:\Tasks
----RunTasks.bat----------------------
@ECHO OFF
REM ---------change registry so email wont compress---
call C:\Tasks\NoCompact.bat
----NoCompact.bat-------------------
regedit.exe /s C:\Tasks\NoCompact.reg
----NoCompact.reg-------------------
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities\{......what ever your idenity
is.........}\Software\Microsoft\Outlook Express\5.0]
"Compact Check Count"=dword:00000000
The above registery change makes sure that the count never gets to 100
(which causes the compress or pop-ups).
The counter is set to zero every night at 1:00AM.
I can compress the email whenever I think about it...which is not to often.
If you do NOT want to run a scheduled task every day, then create a batch
file
that launches Outlook Express.
The batch file also includes the procedure to zero the count.
----LaunchOE.bat-----------------------------
@ECHO OFF
REM ---------change registry so email wont compress---
call C:\Tasks\NoCompact.bat
MSIMN.EXE
Create a shortcut from LaunchOE.bat
Drag the shortcut to the desk top.
Use the shortcut to launch OE.
have a nice day,
JE
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Jerry Ed
JE
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Jerry Ed
start C:\Progra~1\Outloo~1\MSIMN.EXE
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PA Bear
<snip>
> Actually, the Compact Folder Count is not changed until you close OE or
> close an Identity by switching Identities.
OE does not have to be closed nor do you have to switch identities for the
Compact Count to be reset: The Compact Count resets to 0 (zero) when user
manually compacts all OE folders.
PA Bear
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~PA Bear
Donna Aten wrote:
> Do these caveats also apply to Outlook?
>
PA Bear
It's not a problem, it's behavior you dislike.
If you want to risk corruption of your OE store (possible loss of some or
all of your messages) and run a much-less secure version of OE, go right
ahead and do that, Keven/Kevin. You'd be cutting off your nose to spite
your face IMHO.
--
~PA Bear
Ron Sommer
the setting for the automatic compaction is having launched OE 100 times .
The Compact Folder Count will only be reset for the current Identity when
you do a compaction.
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Kevin J. Nielsen
wait too long between compacting OE messages. If I never compact OE at all,
I have no risk of corruption.
That is exactly what I would like to do.. Never compact my messages. I wish
to never risk my messages at all. I have plenty of HD space and I am not
worried about the space requirements, I simply want to have a choice.
Are you guys going to keep hekling me or does someone have an anwer to my
question
Keven
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Gordon
> It is my understanding that the only way I would risk corruption is if I
> wait too long between compacting OE messages. If I never compact OE at
> all, I have no risk of corruption.
That's not correct AFAIK - many problems in OE with regard to corrupt
folders and loss of data seem to be caused precisely BECAUSE the user did
not compact on a regular basis....
Kevin J. Nielsen
many problems in OE with regard to corrupt folders and loss of data seem to
be caused precisely BECAUSE the user did not compact on a regular basis....
Alright but that still leaves doubt. Saying problems are caused because
users dont compact regularly could mean either they waited too long to
compact and when they did, it caused corruption. Or it could mean that the
user never compacted at all and that caused the corruption.
Which is it? Either the problem was caused by compacting messages after
waiting a long time; or corruption occured when the user never compacted
messages.
To me, the statement: "many problems in OE with regard to corrupt folders
and loss of data seem to be caused precisely BECAUSE the user did not
compact on a regular basis" says that if you are going to compact, do it
regularly or risk corruption.
Keven
Gordon
> "Gordon" <gbpl...@gmail.com.invalid> wrote
>
> many problems in OE with regard to corrupt folders and loss of data seem
> to
> be caused precisely BECAUSE the user did not compact on a regular
> basis....
>
>
> Alright but that still leaves doubt. Saying problems are caused because
> users dont compact regularly could mean either they waited too long to
> compact and when they did, it caused corruption.
The usual cause of corruption when compacting is the user interrupting
it.....
> Or it could mean that
> the user never compacted at all and that caused the corruption.
if the dbx files are allowed to get too big, then the probability of them
corrupting grows. Also you should NOT store data in the default OE folders
(Inbox, sent items) as these too have a high propensity for corrupting.
When messages are deleted from an OE folder, the space that they occupied is
still there. Compaction removes that space, so the dbx file becomes leaner
and not bloated.
Although I do not now use OE, I never had any problems with either data loss
or corruption, or with the compacting process. if you are truly worried
about it, then I suggest you investigate something like Mozilla Thunderbird
as an alternative...
Bob I
you don't compact the file size will continue to grow until it becomes
inaccessible.
Compact the file OR suffer the consequences. Your choice.
PA Bear
> It is my understanding that the only way I would risk corruption is if I
> wait too long between compacting OE messages. If I never compact OE at
> all,
> I have no risk of corruption.
Think again, Kevin. See
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/filecorruption.mspx
> Are you guys going to keep hekling me or does someone have an anwer to my
> question
Your question has been answered. To disable Compact Count from being reset
to 0 (zero) after compacting manually, uninstall KB923694. To disable
Automatic Compacting, uninstall WinXP Service Pack 2.
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~PA Bear
Kevin J. Nielsen wrote:
> It is my understanding that the only way I would risk corruption is if I
> wait too long between compacting OE messages. If I never compact OE at
> all,
> I have no risk of corruption.
>
> That is exactly what I would like to do.. Never compact my messages. I
> wish
> to never risk my messages at all. I have plenty of HD space and I am not
> worried about the space requirements, I simply want to have a choice.
>
> Are you guys going to keep hekling me or does someone have an anwer to my
> question
>
> "PA Bear" <PABe...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ufjrLVVd...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> ...I could start uninstalling the updates until the problem goes away.
>>
>> It's not a problem, it's behavior you dislike.
>>
>> If you want to risk corruption of your OE store (possible loss of some or
>> all of your messages) and run a much-less secure version of OE, go right
>> ahead and do that, Keven/Kevin. You'd be cutting off your nose to spite
>> your face IMHO.
>> --
>> ~PA Bear
>>
>> Kevin J. Nielsen wrote:
>>> Thank you for your response. It is nice to know I can compact manually
>>> if I
>>> want to. However, I would still like the decision to be mine. I wish to
>>> have a choice but Microsoft gives me no choice. I guess it was in one
>>> of
>>> the updates I received from Microsoft. Thank you, that gives me a clue,
>>> I
>>> could start uninstalling the updates until the problem goes away.
>>>
>>> "You Know Who ~" <you.kn...@att.net> wrote in message
>>> news:O6xqSpNd...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Microsoft went to this because people didn't compact space as they
>>>> should
>>>> have. You either let things go too long (in which case you should get
>>>> the
>>>> message) or you have enourmous space requirements (do you keep ALL of
>>>> your
>>>> emails?). The prudent thing to do is to compact periodically, manually
>>>> before the message screams at you to do something you should have
>>>> already
>>>> done.
Kevin J. Nielsen
Thank You very much Jerry Ed. That is exactly what I was looking for. It
is nice to be able to have more control over my computer.
Also, thank you to every one else who helped me see the light. Thank you
especially to Pa Bear for sending me that link so I could learn more about
Outlook Express.
Thanks again
Keven
Elfsinger
Sorry, Caveat?
If I'm reading right, please correct me...
If I press yes to this pop up, it will delete/compact/disable ALL the
messages that are in my Inbox and my Sent Items box...
As Well As...completely deleting the deleted messages that I'd thought
I'd Emptied from the Deleted Items box.
I'm sure I've pressed OK before and I lost a LOT of information from
the Sent Items folder.
I use this folder all the time as my brain is a sieve.
Am I right - should I transfer them all to a different personally named
folder before pressing yes?
Thank you.
From...
Old person who doesn't really understand computers but is darn grateful
for help
Gary S. Terhune
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MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com
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Elfsinger
Many thanks..off to do it now
wwemerson
My frustration is related, but somewhat different than many here in this
post ... hope someone has encountered it and has a 'fix'.
Specifically, at random , even from a clear Desktop, one of my machines
will
'launch' this 'compacting' message, and continue posting that annoying
message as many as 20 or 30 times, all at once. The 'message' windows
will fill up 3 rows in the task tray.
None of my other machines have this problem (except when I reach my set
'99' 'compact check count' limit, which is fine).
Has anyone else seen this problem and know how to fix?
All 4 of my machines are running XP w/SP3 and all other windowsupdates.
My Security Suite is from Computer Associates, Security Suite 2008 with
only AntiVirus, AntiSpam, and AntiSpyware loaded. (The one difference in
the failing machine from the rest is, it runs out in my shop, using a
D-Link DWL-G510 PCI wireless adapter - not sure that comes into play
here, however, the failing machine has this one difference.)
This bug is really freakin' me out!
PA Bear [MS MVP]
See this recent discussion about the problem:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general/browse_frm/thread/fcd35fbfa457fd6f
For reference, here's a list of things which are known to cause this
behavior:
• Various & sundry anti-virus applications (including Norton);
• Various & sundry anti-spyware applications;
• Various & sundry third-party firewalls;
• Any/all of the above running when SP3 was installed;
• IBM Rapid Access keyboard (driver) RAKDLL.DLL;
• Nero plug-in(s);
• Windows Desktop Search is installed;
• Windows Live Mail is or had been installed;
• Disk defragmentation; and/or
• MailWasher
Were all components of CA Security Suite 2008 disabled prior to installing
SP3?
WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation
http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldron/archive/2008/05/08/windows-xp-sp3-read-all-prerequisites-for-a-successful-installation.aspx
Steps to take before you install WinXP SP3
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717
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~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
RDJim
My "Compact Messages" nag in Outlook Express is out of control. Several
times during a single session the little notify bell will go off like
some one is leaning on the keyboard and won't stop until I close OE.
Through the helpful info on HTFC I think I figured out how to stop it
temporarily. Problem is after I reset the counter to zero eventually
within hours, the multiple ringing of the nag bell comes back. When I
check the counter it has some crazy hex value in there that looks like a
really big number. And this happens regardless of whether or not I
compact the messages manually or accept the nag with an "OK." If I open
regedit and watch the counter, I can see it go up 2 or 3 points just
opening and closing OE one time. How could the counter be logging so
many hits?? :confused:
I've read that having a corrupt .dbx file could cause strange effects
but compacting the files should fix that. I did not try to replace a
corrupt folder because I have many folders and no way to know which
could be corrupt. :confused:
I'm not running an virus scanner and I just did a full reformat of my
windows install. I even bought a program that deletes duplicate emails
(Remove Duplicate Emails by 'MAPILab - http://www.mapilab.com/'
(http://www.mapilab.com/)) which worked great. After many reinstalls of
windows and running the Transfer Wizard I ended up with 4 copies of
every saved email. I don't know if that could be a problem, but the
program works great and deleted all the dupes. :confused:
I don't think I have a really large number of saved messages though
after many years I'm sure I have over 1,000 - but I can't be alone
there. :confused:
For now Jerry Ed's batch file trick with the reg edit and shortcut
launcher seems to ease the pain a bit but I still think I have a
problem. Put them all in the root directory for OE (C:\Program
Files\Outlook Express). Download the files here: '4shared.com - online
file sharing and storage - download LaunchOE-NoCompact.zip'
(http://www.4shared.com/file/75892605/36aa0461/LaunchOE-NoCompact.html)
The only problem with Jerry's scripts is that it leaves open a black
CMD window. It will close when you close OE or you can delete it. Any
idea on how to fix that? :confused:
Anyway, this is a long message and maybe it will help some one. And
maybe someone can help me? :confused:
Thanks, :D
Jim
Alias
Do yourself a favor and dump Outhouse Distress and install Thunderbird.
Unlike OE, it has an excellent junk filter and a real time spell check
that corrects as you type. When you install it, you can import
everything from OE except the email passwords. Get it at
http://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird. Also, OE is no longer supported by
Microsoft and Thunderbird is supported.
Alias
RDJim
Alias;879751 Wrote:
>
>
> Do yourself a favor and dump Outhouse Distress and install
>
> Alias
Tried Thunderbird but for some reason it wouldn't send messages...kept
getting a SMTP error. Imported account settings from OE but after many
attempts to fix or find help I gave up and installed Microsoft Live Mail
Desktop. Believe it or not I really like it...and nice improvement over
OE and it works great.
Then to my dismay, I kept getting those **** OE Compact Messages Nag.
I googled "uninstall OE" and found a great set of instructions. So far
so good. Now all I need is a way to skin Live Mail to add a little
contrast to the color scheme. ;) It's always something, but that's why
we love computers... it's a hobby that keeps giving.
http://www.tweakxp.com/article37318.aspx Wrote:
>
>
> To manually remove Outlook Express 5.x or 6.0, you must rename several
> files. To help in this process, all system files and file extensions
> must be visible:
> > >
- Double-click the My Computer icon.
- On the Tools menu, click Folder Options, and then click the View
> tab.
- In the Hide Files and Folders section, click Show hidden files
> and folders, and then click to clear the Hide file extensions for
> known file types check box.
- Click to clear the Hide Protected 'Operating System'
> (http://www.tweakxp.com/article37318.aspx#) Files (Recommended)
> check box, and then click Yes in the warning message dialog box.
- Click OK to close the Folder Options dialog box.> > HOW TO REMOVE OUTLOOK EXPRESS
> Before you remove Outlook Express, it is important to familiarize
> yourself with the 'back up and restore'
> (http://www.tweakxp.com/article37318.aspx#) procedures for Outlook
> data. Microsoft recommends that you back up your 'e-mail'
> (http://www.tweakxp.com/article37318.aspx#), address book, and other
> data. For detailed instructions and backup procedures, see the
> following Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:
>
>
> '181084'
> (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;181084) How
> to 'Back Up' (http://www.tweakxp.com/article37318.aspx#) Your Inbox
> Assistant Rules in Outlook Express
> '188093'
> (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;188093) How
> to Back Up the Account List in Outlook Express
> '230208'
> (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;230208) How
> to 'Back Up E-mail' (http://www.tweakxp.com/article37318.aspx#)
> Messages in Outlook Express 5
> '270670'
> (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;270670)
> OLEXP: How to Back Up and Recover Outlook Express 'Data'
> (http://www.tweakxp.com/article37318.aspx#)
> '230076' (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=230076)
> OL2000: Why Outlook 2000 Requires Outlook Express
> To remove Outlook Express, you must rename several folders.
>
> NOTE: Before you remove Outlook Express, make sure you are logged on
> to the computer with Administrative rights.
> > >
- Click Start, point to Programs, point to Accessories, and then
> click Windows Explorer.
- Locate and rename the following folders: > > >
- The Stationery folder: C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft
> Shared\Stationery
- The Identities folder: C:\Documents and
> Settings\username\Application Data\Identities
> -or-
> C:\Documents and Settings\username\Local Settings\Application
> Data\Identities
- The Address Book folder: C:\Documents and
> Settings\username\Application Data\Microsoft\Address Book
> -or-
> C:\Documents and Settings\username\Local Settings\Application
> Data\Address Book
> > >
- After you locate these folders, click them one at a time, and
> then press F2. Rename them to old_stationery, old_identities, and
> old_address respectively, and then press ENTER.> > You must now delete the registry key for Outlook Express:
>
> WARNING: If you use Registry Editor incorrectly, you may cause
> serious problems that may require you to reinstall your operating
> system. 'Microsoft' (http://www.tweakxp.com/article37318.aspx#) cannot
> guarantee that you can solve problems that result from using Registry
> Editor incorrectly. Use Registry Editor at your own risk.
>
> > >
- Click Start, and then click Run, and then type regedit in the
> Open box.
- Locate the following registry keys, right-click the registry key,
> and then click Delete: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Outlook
> Express
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\WAB
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Outlook Express
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\WAB
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \Software\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed
> Components\{44BBA840-CC51-11CF-AAFA-00AA00B6015C}
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \Software\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed
> Components\{7790769C-0471-11D2-AF11-00C04FA35D02}
- Quit Registry Editor.> > To complete the removal procedure, rename several Outlook Express
> files:
> > >
- Click Start, point to Search, and then click For Files and
> Folders.
- Find and rename the following files (these files are the same in
> Outlook Express 6.0):
- Inetcomm.dll
> Msoeacct.dll
> Msoert2.dll
> Msoe.dll
> Msoeres.dll
> Msimn.exe
> Oeimport.dll
> Oemiglib.dll
> Oemig50.exe
> Setup50.exe
> Wab.exe
> Wabfind.dll
> Wabimp.dll
> Wabmig.exe
> Csapi3t1.dll
> Directdb.dll
> Wab32.dll
> Wab32res.dll
> > > Each of these files are located in two folders, the default file
> folder, and the C:\Winnt\System32\Dllcache folder. For example, the
> Inetcomm.dll file is located in the C:\Winnt\System32 folder, by
> default, and in the C:\Winnt\System32\Dllcache folder. You must rename
> the same file in both folders to successfully remove Outlook Express.
> To rename these files:
> > >
- Remove any CD-ROMs that may be in your CD-ROM drive.
- Click the Inetcomm.dll file in the Dllcache folder, press F2,
> rename the file to filename.old (for example, inetcomm.old), and
> then press ENTER.
- Click the same file in the other folder, press F2, rename the
> file to filename.old, and then press ENTER.
- When you receive the prompt about Windows file protection, do not
> insert the Windows 2000 CD-ROM. Instead, click Cancel.
- At the prompt about keeping unrecognized file versions, click
> Yes.
- Repeat this process with each file in the list.> > http://www.tweakxp.com/article37318.aspx
C. Ann
How do I get my email back? I saved them into folders but the folders
are now empty. I WANT MY EMAIL BACK, PLEASE.....
Cheryl
Elmo
Your newsreader seems to be:
"X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway"
.. but there's no information on your email program. The subject of the
thread you "hijacked" mentions OE. Whatever email program you use, you
can get help in a newsgroup dedicated to that program.
If you in fact use OE, then the email folders, such as Inbox.dbx
probably still exist. This depends on what happened; if you lost your
account information and had to recreate it, you can import the old
emails, settings, etc. from the old account. All this can be best found
in the proper group where the subject is commonplace.
More OE help:
Scroll down to "Outlook Express articles on the Internet Explorer
Community website" and find two links on:
# A Multitude of Multiples: Using Outlook Express with Multiple E-mail
Addresses, Multiple Accounts, and Multiple Identities
# The Other E-Mail Threat: File Corruption in Outlook Express
--
Joe =o)
PA Bear [MS MVP]
Why it happens:
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/filecorruption.mspx
Recovering the missing data: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx (#2 and #4)
and http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=918069 (see Notes section under
Resolution)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
DBXpress (faster, more powerful, with even greater functionality than
DBXtract)
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Avoiding Such Corruption in Future:
- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
folders created for this purpose.
- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.
- Frequently perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working
offline". More at http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm
- Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur, and do not attempt to
close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if Automatic Compacting
is taking place.
- Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
corruption (i.e., loss of messages) and provides no additional protection:
Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
tobi_boi
Hi guys
HERE ARE THE INSTRUCTIONS HOW TO REMOVE THE ANNOYING OUTLOOK EXPRESS
MESSAGE *FOREVER AND AT ONCE*. Please use this only if you want to have
freedom to choose when you want to compact your messages, not to
completelly avoid compacting messages which can be dangerous as
discussed above.
1. Backup your dll (see below) before doing any change.
2a. If you use version 6.0.2900.5512 of msoe.dll (check in c:\program
files\outlook express folder or similar), which should come with Windows
XP SP3, then just change the value of BYTE at address A5290 to 00 (from
64) and at address A5292 to 83 (from 82), all values hexadecimal.
2b. If your version is different, use W32Dasm or a similar tool to find
all references to "Compact Check Count" string (should find 3 or 4) in
msoe.dll. The right reference is the one which precedes the blue text
"Reference to: "SHLWAPI.SHGetValueA ..." (rather than SetValue) by 4 or
so lines in W32Dasm listing. Find a CMP instruction containing constant
00000064, it should be around 20 lines afterwards [that's the
"unchangeble" value of 100 times of OE runs]. The values to change, 64
and 82, are parts of coding of this CMP instruction and the JB
instruction that follows it. Subtract the address of the CMP instruction
from the "Program Entry Point" address (check menu Goto) to find the
actual address and fix these bytes in msoe.dll with Ultra Edit or
another binary editor as above.
3. Try it out! Play with the key in Registry to check if it works for
any value.
Please use this only for educational purposes!
Gordon
news:tobi_bo...@no.email.invalid...
>
> Hi guys
>
> HERE ARE THE INSTRUCTIONS HOW TO REMOVE THE ANNOYING OUTLOOK EXPRESS
> MESSAGE *FOREVER AND AT ONCE*. Please use this only if you want to have
> freedom to choose when you want to compact your messages, not to
> completelly avoid compacting messages which can be dangerous as
> discussed above.
Discussed "above" what?
Posted and mailed
The "forum" that you are posting in leaches off the Microsoft News servers
in order to make it look far busier than it really is. Everyone who uses the
MS News servers sees your post on it's own - we have NO IDEA what you are
talking about and to whom you are talking.
This is not your fault - the fault lies with the forum owners who do not
explain to members that their posts end up on global Usenet newsgroups.
If you MUST continue to post in this "forum" then please at least quote the
post you are replying to as per Usenet customary usage.
You would be far better off however, using a news reader and subscribing to
these news groups direct.
Setting up Outlook Express/Windows Mail to access Microsoft newsgroups
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm
Accessing the MS newsgroups in Outlook Express/Windows Mail Newsreader
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroupsetup.mspx
Thank you
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your OS, Service Pack level
and the FULL contents of any error message(s)
Darko Pesikan
to on the web. In case it illuminates my last post. And this I write from OE
now :).
Need to disable offer from Outlook Express "to free up disk space, outlook
express can compact messages"
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Every time I close Outlook Express, I get the following message: "to free up
disk space, outlook express can compact messages."
I have read about this and I understand it does not diminish the integrity
of my messages.
However, the problem I have is that I cannot stand it when programs like
this keep bugging me relentlessly until I do what they want me to do. I
want to have the choice to say yes or no. This program does not give me
that choice because it keeps bugging me until it gets its way.
I would greatly appreciate it if someone could tell me how to stop these
annoying pop-ups.
Thank You very much
Keven
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gordon" <gordon...@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: Need to disable offer from Outlook Express "to free up disk
space, outlook express can compact messages"
PA Bear [MS MVP]
Horse hockey!
1. MSOE.DLL is not the executable for Outlook Express.
2. Unless you want to risk the loss of your entire message store, you do NOT
want to disable Automatic Compacting (which was introduced in WinXP SP2
where MSOE.DLL was v6.0.2900.2180 IIRC) or do anything in the post quoted
below, /especially/ messing about in the Registry!
3. If you adhere to all of the following caveats, you will never see the
Automatic Compact prompt:
- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
folders created for this purpose.
- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.
- Frequently perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working
offline". More at http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm
- Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur, and do not attempt to
close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if Automatic Compacting
is taking place.
- Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
corruption (i.e., loss of messages) and provides no additional protection:
Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm
PS: This thread dates from April 1st (coincidence?) 2007. Please read all
previous replies to this thread before posting any more replies to it:
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
info_cx
Kevin J. Nielsen;14355 Wrote:
> Every time I close Outlook Express, I get the following message: "to
> free up
> disk space, outlook express can compact messages."
>
> I have read about this and I understand it does not diminish the
> integrity
> of my messages.
>
> However, the problem I have is that I cannot stand it when programs
> like
> this keep bugging me relentlessly until I do what they want me to do.
> I
> want to have the choice to say yes or no. This program does not give
> me
> that choice because it keeps bugging me until it gets its way.
>
> I would greatly appreciate it if someone could tell me how to stop
> these
> annoying pop-ups.
>
> Thank You very much
>
> Keven
google for uncrazyer. We've made a small app. to solve this issue. It
is already available at most software repositories. If run in auto
mode, outlook will not bother you again, ever. The app is small, free
and clean.
Happy 2010 to all.
Your friends of Caracolix Media
PA Bear [MS MVP]
@Lurkers: Do NOT install any such utility!
In a SPAM reply to a thread from 01 April 2007 (coincidence?), info_cx
wrote:
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