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Hello

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Nov 9, 2005, 12:34:19 AM11/9/05
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Can somebody enlighten me why is this guy (NobodyMan) allowed to post on MS
Newsgroups? He doesn't answer any questions; he is very good at
insulting people and putting people down. I checked all his messages
for the past two weeks or so and there is nowhere I can see he has
answered a single question.

Why does he waste his valuable time on these newsgroups? Surely, he has
better things to do than just wind people up!

Where are the Newsgroup moderators? they nedd to visit the NG from time to time.


Leythos

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Nov 9, 2005, 12:56:48 AM11/9/05
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In article <43718A5B...@world.com>, he...@world.com says...

There are no NewsGroup moderators of this Group - there are some servers
that have group moderators - such as the Microsoft Usenet servers proper
- they have a "moderator" that enforces their standards and AUP, but it
only applies to the Microsoft Usenet Server.

When you use World.com or fubar.com as your Usenet server, they are not
bound my Microsoft to do anything, in fact, if Microsoft stopped hosting
a Usenet server you would still see articles as the server you are on
Carries the group and replicates with it's partner(s).

So, what this means is that anyone can post from any Usenet server as
long as they obey the rules of their provider.

There are a number of people that act the way you describe, then there
are people that post bugus info just to screw with people, then there
are the Trolls, and last there are the people that are Super-Trolls that
like to mess with anyone that mentions their name or a subject, but they
are better at it than your average Troll. The proper method is to either
document their actions and send them to the Abuse contact at their
provider or to ignore them and never reply to them (which most people
can't do).

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George Hester

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Nov 9, 2005, 2:34:04 AM11/9/05
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There really aren't any except for spam. Remember your mommy doesn't come
here more than likely. You have to fend for yourself.

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Kelly

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Nov 9, 2005, 2:42:44 AM11/9/05
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That isn't true, George and mommies could come into play here. Especially,
if my children were interested in the MS newsgroups and posted!

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kurttrail

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Nov 9, 2005, 6:16:08 AM11/9/05
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And LameGirl is a Troll expert as she is one.

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David H. Lipman

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Nov 9, 2005, 9:25:28 AM11/9/05
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From: "Hello" <he...@world.com>

A quote from the MS News Group administrator...

"Microsoft does not block people from posting to the newsgroups hosted on
msnews.microsoft.com for any reason other than violations of the Terms of
Use (http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.mspx) or the Rules of Conduct
(http://www.microsoft.com/communities/conduct/default.mspx). There are no
official moderators of the newsgroups hosted on msnews.microsoft.com (in
either the traditional Usenet sense or in the more recent web forum
parlance) however we regularly review complaints sent using the Contact Us
link (http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=2028320).

While I welcome people to contact me directly, I can not guarantee personal
responses to any mails.

John Eddy
Microsoft Newsgroups Administrator"

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Kelly

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Nov 10, 2005, 2:18:34 AM11/10/05
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Who is LameGirl?

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Troubleshooting Windows XP
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kurttrail

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Nov 10, 2005, 6:01:50 AM11/10/05
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Kelly wrote:
> Who is LameGirl?

My pet name for Leythos.

Leythos

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Nov 10, 2005, 6:13:13 AM11/10/05
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In article <O6Hy2bc5...@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>, ke...@mvps.org
says...
> Who is LameGirl?

That's Kurts loving nick name for me :) Except that I'm not a Girl, but
he has a fixation on anyone that likes software he doesn't like.

kurttrail

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Nov 10, 2005, 6:39:01 AM11/10/05
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Leythos wrote:
> In article <O6Hy2bc5...@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>, ke...@mvps.org
> says...
>> Who is LameGirl?
>
> That's Kurts loving nick name for me :) Except that I'm not a Girl,
> but he has a fixation on anyone that likes software he doesn't like.

No, you just bitch like one, and you are lame in the brain, hence
LameGirl. ;-)

NobodyMan

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Nov 10, 2005, 9:51:35 PM11/10/05
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Ah, did somebody's feelings get hurt? You come into the adult world,
you need to learn to play the game.

For the record, I do help when help is warranted. However, most of us
get fed up seeing the same questions asked over and over and over and
over and over and over and over and over.....you get the idea. People
need to learn to actually search and read before asking the same
question that was already asked 15 times within the last three hours.

Also, we get tired of seeing posts that have nothing to do with the
topic at hand.

Yes, I'm more brusque than others. I'm not subtle. Polite pointers
don't seem to work in modern society as well as slaps to faces. If
you don't like that and don't want to deal with it, you don't have to
read my posts - killfile them if you want. Better yet, you could grow
thicker skin and move on.

Kelly

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Nov 11, 2005, 2:58:33 AM11/11/05
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> That's Kurts loving nick name for me :) Except that I'm not a Girl, but
> he has a fixation on anyone that likes software he doesn't like.

>No, you just bitch like one, and you are lame in the brain, hence
>LameGirl. ;-)

Ah....ok good then. I was worried there for a bit. Sounds like yall are
still friends. <w>

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kurttrail

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Nov 11, 2005, 6:45:37 AM11/11/05
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Leythos wrote:
> In article <OuNP1Wp5...@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>, ke...@mvps.org
> says...

>>> That's Kurts loving nick name for me :) Except that I'm not a Girl,
>>> but he has a fixation on anyone that likes software he doesn't like.
>>
>>> No, you just bitch like one, and you are lame in the brain, hence
>>> LameGirl. ;-)
>>
>> Ah....ok good then. I was worried there for a bit. Sounds like
>> yall are still friends. <w>
>
> Yea, I just don't have time to play with him for a couple weeks and he
> gets grumpy when people don't play with him :)

ROFL! Try not responding to me for a month and see how much I won't
miss you!

George Hester

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Nov 11, 2005, 12:43:05 PM11/11/05
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You two. Truce?

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kurttrail

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Nov 11, 2005, 5:01:55 PM11/11/05
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George Hester wrote:
> You two. Truce?

I believe in non-violence, so I need no truce.

Kelly

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Nov 20, 2005, 4:27:50 AM11/20/05
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Too funny.....

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Kelly

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Nov 20, 2005, 4:27:54 AM11/20/05
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Ouch and I hear you!

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> In article <OuNP1Wp5...@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>, ke...@mvps.org
> says...

>> > That's Kurts loving nick name for me :) Except that I'm not a Girl, but
>> > he has a fixation on anyone that likes software he doesn't like.
>>
>> >No, you just bitch like one, and you are lame in the brain, hence
>> >LameGirl. ;-)
>>
>> Ah....ok good then. I was worried there for a bit. Sounds like yall are
>> still friends. <w>
>

> Yea, I just don't have time to play with him for a couple weeks and he
> gets grumpy when people don't play with him :)
>

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tedoniman

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Nov 22, 2005, 8:50:30 AM11/22/05
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Excuse me. Couldn't help but look in here. Glad I did. Maybe get some answers
- though no doubt be told to bug off and start another thread.

Indubitably 'NobodyMan' is right on target with his reply. But then, I've
also noted, that a few parties here in these newsgroups can't or won't make a
relevant comment on even simple questions (for them) posted here by novices
(which is close to what I am, obviously) - and in those cases prefer to
respond with a negative remark.

The problem is that sometimes you just can't get the right keyword for a
successful search or else there's something wrong. There were several
occasions in my own case, for instances, where I clicked on a link in my
hotmail (there because of "Notify me of replies") that brought me back to the
correct newsgroup but with my own
message nowhere in sight on the message page. For a moment, I was completely
lost and thought the official link took me to the wrong place.

Entering different keywords from my message title, several times, in
'Search', didn't help. Finally, had to enter the entire title string to find
it. I can see maybe 'one' error - but if you read closely here, you will note
there are at least two involved. So how can one expect to find answers via
search when one can't even quickly find one's own message. Not saying this
happens all the time - but it does happen and I have no idea why.

Then there are some experts who reply primarily in terms of links instead of
requested step-by-step procedures that newbies can cope with. Some of those
'links' can be a bit to technical, intimidating and overwhelming for some of
us - leading to the same questions being asked over and over again. Not to
say we don't appreciate the reasons for brevity - which are the overwhelming
no. of questions and the valuable time sacrificed by a limited number of
experts on the subject.

Well, I've said to much already here. Will post my querry in another thread:

"Can't Download MS Updates" (because keep losing connection and there
appears to be no "resume" function at MS Update downloads).

I doubt I'll find a wholly applicable solution to this via search for
previous threads, etc. - but I will try, as usual. In meanwhile maybe some
visitor or one of you gents
will see my thread and have the time to suggest some possible solutions.

Thanx for your ears,

Ted...

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Gordon

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Nov 22, 2005, 8:59:21 AM11/22/05
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"tedoniman" <tedo...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>
> The problem is that sometimes you just can't get the right keyword
> for a successful search or else there's something wrong. There were
> several occasions in my own case, for instances, where I clicked on a
> link in my hotmail (there because of "Notify me of replies") that
> brought me back to the correct newsgroup but with my own
> message nowhere in sight on the message page.

You would be much better off if you used a proper Newsreader instead of the
crummy web access. Outlook Express will do very nicely.


tedoniman

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Nov 22, 2005, 9:38:20 AM11/22/05
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OK. Got that Gordon. Can I just simply install that and use as any other ap?
Or is there something else like extra charge involved to the SP? I'm not up
on this thing though I know it's there. Got hotmail for my small email needs.
Sometime back tried use Outlook but wouldn't work. When asked local SP for
help (this is in Malaysia), they said to use their substitute but that there
was some payments involved.

Thanx
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Ted...

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Nightowl

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Nov 22, 2005, 10:26:30 AM11/22/05
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tedoniman <tedo...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on Tue, 22 Nov
2005:

>The problem is that sometimes you just can't get the right keyword for a
>successful search or else there's something wrong.

[snip . . .]

>Entering different keywords from my message title, several times, in
>'Search', didn't help.

[snip . . .]

>So how can one expect to find answers via search when one can't even
>quickly find one's own message. Not saying this happens all the time -
>but it does happen and I have no idea why.


Hi Ted

I do sympathise. . . it must have been terribly frustrating, and good
for you for at least attempting to search for previous answers.

I have to say though that I agree with what others have said: if you're
going to be reading newsgroups at all regularly -- and it's a great way
to learn -- you would be much better off using a newsreader program
instead of the Microsoft web interface. There are many Windows
newsreaders around, including excellent free ones :-) but you could just
start off with Outlook Express, which you will already have. Different
readers will work slightly differently, but they all offer ways of
searching; marking or "watching" your own posts and answers to them, so
they can be found easily; keeping useful answers; filtering out or
blocking posts from people you don't like, and much more. Here's a link
on setting up OE for news by MVP Michael Stevens:
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm

Another very useful place when you're searching for answers is Google
Groups, here:
http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search
It's a good idea to check here before posting to the newsgroup, to see
if your question has already come up and been answered. Just type the
name of this group in the Group box (or type microsoft.public.windowsxp*
to scan all the XP groups), change the date range to perhaps the last
year, then fill in your search terms. You'll then quickly be able to see
previous relevant questions and answers.

>Then there are some experts who reply primarily in terms of links instead of
>requested step-by-step procedures that newbies can cope with. Some of those
>'links' can be a bit to technical, intimidating and overwhelming for some of
>us - leading to the same questions being asked over and over again. Not to
>say we don't appreciate the reasons for brevity - which are the overwhelming
>no. of questions and the valuable time sacrificed by a limited number of
>experts on the subject.

There can be other good reasons for posting link. . . If I'm answering
someone and I know of a link, I always refer the poster to it. I feel it
will give them more confidence to know they are following directions
from a Microsoft Knowledge Base article, for example, instead of someone
they never heard of before on a newsgroup :-) And often I just remember
seeing something on that subject, and can find the link for the poster,
but don't know all the ins and outs of it myself. Far better to refer
them to the original rather than me paraphrasing it and possibly getting
it wrong.

If you ever do feel lost or bewildered trying to follow instructions in
a link, don't be afraid to post back. "I'm following Knowledge Base
article XYZ and I've got up to step 3, but I don't understand why it
says ABC". . .

>In meanwhile maybe some visitor or one of you gents will see my thread

Heh, Ted, not everyone here is of the male persuasion. . .:-)

Take care,

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tedoniman

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Nov 22, 2005, 2:52:05 PM11/22/05
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My hat off to the ladies! - in particular, Nightowl. First comprehensive &
comprehensible solution to a problem I've had for a long while. Will digest
all that in good time - soon as finish up with my followups here. Fact is,
for all its apparent and perceived flaws, am starting to get used to this
thing,
learning to compensate like a mouse in a maze.

Definitely few things awry with this 'reader' (whatever). Few hours ago,
lost
a whole reply I was working on in this very box, after click on 'post'. Pop
up
made me sign in again and when got back, all my work was gone - save for
the message I was replying to. And so it goes. May happen again with this one.
Better copy it to Notebook first.

Sorry about the slip of the pen. Usually I'd pay my respects to both genders.
In this case I'd noted only gents names in the queue, 'though. Still, you're
right.

Well, what else can one say, except thanx loads for all that good info.
Really appreciate. Your style, by the way, sounds a bit familiar - as if of
someone I knew long ago. Odd. Then again, could be just a transient deja vu
flashback to the days when coms were a bit more circumspect and civil.

Got to go look up few more little items on my list.

--
Ted...


"Nightowl" wrote:

> tedoniman <tedo...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on Tue, 22 Nov
> 2005:
>
> >The problem is that sometimes you just can't get the right keyword for a
>

> Hi Ted
>
> I do sympathise. . . it must have been terribly frustrating, and good
> for you for at least attempting to search for previous answers.
>

> --
> Nightowl
>

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