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kurttrail

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Dec 21, 2005, 1:26:42 PM12/21/05
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Don't you love paying for extremely overpriced bloated software, that is
riddled with high risk, highly critical flaws?!

With Windows, you already have all that, but do you really need
Symancrap products that further add to your security problems too!

Winblows plus Symancrap, if you are looking to play with fire while
computing! ;-)

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kurttrail

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Dec 21, 2005, 2:22:55 PM12/21/05
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Leythos wrote:
> In article <#cT8YwlB...@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>,
> donte...@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org says...

>> http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-6004097.html
>>
>> Don't you love paying for extremely overpriced bloated software,
>> that is riddled with high risk, highly critical flaws?!
>>
>> With Windows, you already have all that, but do you really need
>> Symancrap products that further add to your security problems too!
>>
>> Winblows plus Symancrap, if you are looking to play with fire while
>> computing! ;-)
>
> Funny you failed to mention that Kap suffered from the same flaw.

"This is not the first vulnerability Wheeler has discovered. In October,
he highlighted a *similar* flaw in Kaspersky Lab's antivirus software,
which was later acknowledged by the company. Again, it was a heap
overflow vulnerability."

"*Similar* flaw," not the "*same* flaw, Lamegirl Symancrapophant! And
it was mentioned in the acticle I linked to.

I love how you needed to misrepresent reality in showing I failed to
warn the group about something mentioned in the article that happened a
couple of months ago.

> As many people with firewalls (appliances or dedicated) don't permit
> RAR files in attachments, it's only likely to impact residential
> users.

" According to an advisory issued by Secunia, the bug affects most of
Symantec's products, including *enterprise* and home user versions of
Symantec AntiVirus . . . ."

I rather enjoyed the silence! Oh well, "All good things . . . ."

Kemco

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Dec 21, 2005, 3:34:02 PM12/21/05
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So what do u guys think about Trend Micros Products. Personally, that is all
our company will use because we find it much better than others but I would
also like to hear other peoples feedback.

Joe
Kemco IT Pro

kurttrail

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Dec 21, 2005, 3:38:42 PM12/21/05
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Kemco wrote:
> So what do u guys think about Trend Micros Products. Personally,
> that is all our company will use because we find it much better than
> others but I would also like to hear other peoples feedback.

Haven't used it, except for their online scanner, which I like.

Steve N.

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Dec 21, 2005, 5:24:43 PM12/21/05
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Kemco wrote:

> So what do u guys think about Trend Micros Products. Personally, that is all
> our company will use because we find it much better than others but I would
> also like to hear other peoples feedback.
>
> Joe
> Kemco IT Pro

OfficeScan is great on Win2K/XP boxen but it sucks boulders installed on
Win9x, renders them unusable for several minutes after startup.

Steve N.

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Kerry Brown

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Dec 21, 2005, 5:37:27 PM12/21/05
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Kemco wrote:
> So what do u guys think about Trend Micros Products. Personally,
> that is all our company will use because we find it much better than
> others but I would also like to hear other peoples feedback.

I have one customer using their Client Server Security for SMB. Some people
have had problems with the new version but the upgrade went fine for me. I
have limited exeperience with it. One install with two win2k servers and ten
clients. It doesn't seem to consume a lot of resources or network bandwidth.
What I've seen I like. I have also installed PC-cillan a few times for home
users. It seems OK as well.

Kerry

Dave

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Dec 21, 2005, 8:17:25 PM12/21/05
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What a jerk!


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Uncle Joe

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Dec 21, 2005, 9:25:47 PM12/21/05
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Warning! Troll Alert! Troll Alert! Troll Alert! Troll Alert! Troll Alert!

kurttrail

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Dec 22, 2005, 2:08:13 AM12/22/05
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Dave wrote:
> "kurttrail" <donte...@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in
> message news:%23cT8Ywl...@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-6004097.html
>>
>> Don't you love paying for extremely overpriced bloated software,
>> that is riddled with high risk, highly critical flaws?!
>>
>> With Windows, you already have all that, but do you really need
>> Symancrap products that further add to your security problems too!
>>
>> Winblows plus Symancrap, if you are looking to play with fire while
>> computing! ;-)
>>
> What a jerk!


I prefer a**hole.

So I guess you like overpriced overbloated software that is riddle with
security holes! It takes all kinds to make the world go round, and if
you are into virtual software masochism, that is your choice. Just like
some people choose to have their testicles pierced!

kurttrail

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Dec 22, 2005, 2:10:37 AM12/22/05
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Uncle Joe wrote:
>> "kurttrail" <donte...@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in
>> message news:%23cT8Ywl...@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>> http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-6004097.html
>>>
>>> Don't you love paying for extremely overpriced bloated software,
>>> that is riddled with high risk, highly critical flaws?!
>>>
>>> With Windows, you already have all that, but do you really need
>>> Symancrap products that further add to your security problems too!
>>>
>>> Winblows plus Symancrap, if you are looking to play with fire while
>>> computing! ;-)
> Warning! Troll Alert! Troll Alert! Troll Alert! Troll Alert!
> Troll Alert!
>

You needn't alert us. I'm sure most of the regulars of the group have
figured out that you are troll. ;-)

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kurttrail

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Dec 22, 2005, 10:11:23 AM12/22/05
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Leythos wrote:
> In article <OOcd6ZsB...@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>,
> donte...@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org says...

>> So I guess you like overpriced overbloated software that is riddle
>> with security holes!
>
> It has no more holes than the Number 1 rated software on the market.

Really? And that is based on an actual count of holes, or just your
wishful thinking?

And if it is based on an actual count, document it, because if you
cannot, then you are just full of sh*t, as is usual for you, Lamegirl
Symancrapophant!

kurttrail

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Dec 22, 2005, 10:52:51 AM12/22/05
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Leythos wrote:
> In article <OOcd6ZsB...@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>,
> donte...@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org says...
>> So I guess you like overpriced overbloated software that is riddle
>> with security holes!
>
> It has no more holes than the Number 1 rated software on the market.

"The glitch affects 39 different Symantec products - including both home
and enterprise versions of its anti-virus software. It resides within
the Symantec anti-virus library, which is used by all of the
packages." - http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn8505

39 different Symantec products! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Dave

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Dec 22, 2005, 11:48:30 AM12/22/05
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Why don't you go crawl back under your rock.


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kurttrail

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Dec 22, 2005, 12:04:31 PM12/22/05
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Dave wrote:
> "kurttrail" <donte...@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in
> message news:eE4QF$wBGHA...@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> Leythos wrote:
>>> In article <OOcd6ZsB...@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>,
>>> donte...@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org says...
>>>> So I guess you like overpriced overbloated software that is riddle
>>>> with security holes!
>>>
>>> It has no more holes than the Number 1 rated software on the market.
>>
>> "The glitch affects 39 different Symantec products - including both
>> home and enterprise versions of its anti-virus software. It resides
>> within the Symantec anti-virus library, which is used by all of the
>> packages." - http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn8505
>>
>> 39 different Symantec products! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>
> Why don't you go crawl back under your rock.

ROFL! I'm clusterfuckobic, but at least I'm not a mashochist like you!
;-)

Dave

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Dec 22, 2005, 12:16:49 PM12/22/05
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No one here cares about your opinion so get lost and do everyone a favor.


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kurttrail

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Dec 22, 2005, 12:57:22 PM12/22/05
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Dave wrote:
> "kurttrail" <donte...@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in
> message news:OtLuHnx...@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> Dave wrote:
>>> "kurttrail" <donte...@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in
>>> message news:eE4QF$wBGHA...@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>> In article <OOcd6ZsB...@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>,
>>>>> donte...@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org says...
>>>>>> So I guess you like overpriced overbloated software that is
>>>>>> riddle with security holes!
>>>>>
>>>>> It has no more holes than the Number 1 rated software on the
>>>>> market.
>>>>
>>>> "The glitch affects 39 different Symantec products - including both
>>>> home and enterprise versions of its anti-virus software. It resides
>>>> within the Symantec anti-virus library, which is used by all of the
>>>> packages." - http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn8505
>>>>
>>>> 39 different Symantec products! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>>>
>>> Why don't you go crawl back under your rock.
>>
>> ROFL! I'm clusterfuckobic, but at least I'm not a mashochist like
>> you! ;-)
>>
> No one here cares about your opinion so get lost and do everyone a
> favor.

ROFL! You care enough to reply, you masochistic moron.

Do yourself a favor and stop embarrassing yourself by continuing to
reply to me.

Tom [Pepper] Willett

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Dec 22, 2005, 1:29:53 PM12/22/05
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kurttrail

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Dec 22, 2005, 1:38:27 PM12/22/05
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LOL! And ALL of the AV companies missed Sony's rootkit malware too. I
just goes to show that the best protection is not to totally trust ANY
company with your computer security. Their is a personal responsiblity
component that is invovled in protecting your computer system, learning
how to avoid dangerous virtual situations in the first place.

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kurttrail

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Dec 22, 2005, 2:05:39 PM12/22/05
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Leythos wrote:
> In article <#fvT6nwB...@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>,
> donte...@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org says...

>> Leythos wrote:
>>> In article <OOcd6ZsB...@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>,
>>> donte...@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org says...
>>>> So I guess you like overpriced overbloated software that is riddle
>>>> with security holes!
>>>
>>> It has no more holes than the Number 1 rated software on the market.
>>
>> Really? And that is based on an actual count of holes, or just your
>> wishful thinking?
>
> The article you posted a Link to provide information that showed that
> KAP also had the same flaw, and another posted in this thread is
> showing the McAfee currently has the flaw....

So that means that Symancrap has "no more holes" than either of the
companies? If that is what you are saying your logic is totally flawed.
And is either of those companies the "Number 1 rated software on the
market?" And if so, who is doing the rating, and what is their
financial relationship with their "Number 1" choice?

Again, you are just blowing smoke out of your ass, Lamegirl
Symancrapophant! You have absolutely no documented proof that Symancrap
has "has no more holes than the Number 1 rated software on the market."
You were just making that up, IOW, you were just blatantly lying,
Liargirl Symancrapophant!

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kurttrail

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Dec 22, 2005, 3:33:33 PM12/22/05
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Leythos wrote:
> In article <uGXH0qyB...@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>,

> donte...@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org says...
>> Leythos wrote:
>>> In article <#fvT6nwB...@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>,
>>> donte...@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org says...
>>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>> In article <OOcd6ZsB...@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>,
>>>>> donte...@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org says...
>>>>>> So I guess you like overpriced overbloated software that is
>>>>>> riddle with security holes!
>>>>>
>>>>> It has no more holes than the Number 1 rated software on the
>>>>> market.
>>>>
>>>> Really? And that is based on an actual count of holes, or just
>>>> your wishful thinking?
>>>
>>> The article you posted a Link to provide information that showed
>>> that KAP also had the same flaw, and another posted in this thread
>>> is showing the McAfee currently has the flaw....
>>
>> So that means that Symancrap has "no more holes" than either of the
>> companies? If that is what you are saying your logic is totally
>> flawed.
>
> No, what I'm saying is that while Symantec has an exposure right now,
> so do other quality solutions, and the evidence is slowly appearing.

I wasn't asking about that, Liargirl. I was asking you to back up your
statement that Symancrap "has no more holes than the Number 1 rated
software on the market." Obviously you were trying to divert away from
backing up your statement in any meaniful way, except to try to change
the subject. Totally typical of you.

> While you can rant about Symantec having a RAR overflow, you seem to
> be single minded in your hate of Symantec when the other products on
> the market have the same flaw.

Really? Symancrap is the only one I know of that has the RAR problem.

With Kasperski, the problem is with malformed CAB files. -
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-5887857.html

And the McAfee problem "revolves around an ActiveX control responsible
for writing to log files," due to a flawed DLL. -
http://www.informationweek.com/industries/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=175007526

But you need to continue to lie that these are the "same flaws" as are
in 39 different Symancrap products! You are only fooling yourself, as
anyone that doesn't have their head full of Symancrap can painly see
that these are different flaws, not as you lie the "same flaw."

> If you were unbiased your ranting
> might carry some weight, but like a zealot, you don't seem to be
> worth listening too.

At least I don't get caught in blatant lies. The weight of your lying
words hang like an anchor around your neck, Liargirl Symancrapophant!

Ron Martell

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Dec 22, 2005, 5:32:54 PM12/22/05
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"kurttrail" <donte...@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote:

>http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-6004097.html
>
>Don't you love paying for extremely overpriced bloated software, that is
>riddled with high risk, highly critical flaws?!
>
>With Windows, you already have all that, but do you really need
>Symancrap products that further add to your security problems too!
>
>Winblows plus Symancrap, if you are looking to play with fire while
>computing! ;-)

It appears that you and I have something we can agree about with
regards to Symantec products.

I usually refer to computers with Symantec products as being
"infested" by them.

Any product that requires a supplementary uninstaller to actually get
rid of it meets my definition of shoddy.

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

Winux P

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Dec 22, 2005, 5:59:50 PM12/22/05
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"Ron Martell" <ron.m...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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And it does finish there, search the registry on what it leaves behind and
you jaw will drop all over the place, McAffe comes in at a very close
second. Can't remember the specific registry key, but there's one key it
won't let you delete after total removal. Talk about shoddy alright, any
software you want removed and leaves a key that can't be deleted\removed at
ones behest should be bogged on.

- Winux P


Plato

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Dec 22, 2005, 10:42:03 PM12/22/05
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Dave wrote:
>
> Why don't you go crawl back under your rock.

I love the usa state of Tennessee.

Follow any stream, flip over flat rocks next to the steam and find so
many cool things like snakes, lizards, scorpians, salamanders, huge
night crawlers, etc. Enough to live on if you had to......


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