Boot Screens

Borhade@discussions.microsoft.com Kedar Borhade

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Sep 20, 2004, 11:51:05 AM9/20/04

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How do I replace the Windows XP embedded boot screen by my own?

I found lots of sites talking about it for XP Pro and Home edition but none
for XPe kernel?

What shall be the difference, if any, in replacing the boot screen for XPe?

Is there any support by target designer for changing boot screen

Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)

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Sep 20, 2004, 12:38:13 PM9/20/04

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Hi Kedar,

You can disable it in boot.ini. This is legal.
You can change it with same programs that you have used for XP Home/Prof. But this is not legal.

XPe uses same binaries as XP Prof.

Best regards,
Slobodan

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Johannes Stratmann

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Sep 21, 2004, 4:47:28 AM9/21/04

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I found an undocumented switch for the boot.ini: add '/noguiboot /bootlogo'
and put a file name 'boot.bmp' with 640x480x4bit in the \Windows directory.

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Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)

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Sep 21, 2004, 7:40:57 AM9/21/04

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Awe Johannes,

I tested this and it is working.
You have found a legal way to change boot logo. This is problem we all had till now.
You could write a few line tip and put it on:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/embedded/community/community/tips/xp/

Best regards,
Slobodan

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Johannes Stratmann

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Sep 21, 2004, 10:40:39 AM9/21/04

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> Awe Johannes,
>
> I tested this and it is working.
> You have found a legal way to change boot logo. This is problem we all had
till now.
> You could write a few line tip and put it on:
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/embedded/community/community/tips/xp/

I have tried this now several times, but after filling in the form the
server returns an 'unknown error'.

Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)

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Sep 21, 2004, 11:15:37 AM9/21/04

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Try accessing it from:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/embedded/community/community/tips/default.aspx

Best regards,
Slobodan

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Johannes Stratmann

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Sep 21, 2004, 11:57:32 AM9/21/04

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still complaining with

'An unknown error occurred while processing your request. This is most
likely due to a connection failure. Please try again.'

I will try later from another network connection.

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JC

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Sep 21, 2004, 12:13:19 PM9/21/04

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Nice Tip, however it does not get around the license agreements from MS...
you can suppress Boot Splash, but you cannot change it to something else...
I am working this issue with MS as we speak... Pain in the Rump, I tell 'YA

Works... but Not legal by MS T&C's

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Johannes Stratmann

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Sep 21, 2004, 12:29:52 PM9/21/04

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But this is not acceptable for embedded systems, anybody using embedded
Linux, QNX, VxWorks and so on will laugh about such an restriction.
We can accept an addition like 'powered by Microsoft Windows XPembedded',
but I think this is already done by using the license stickers ?
I remember I've read different postings about this some time ago. Please
keep us updated.

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JC

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Sep 21, 2004, 12:50:02 PM9/21/04

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Wholeheartedly Agree... That has been my main argument to MS... I will let
you all know where this lands.

JC

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Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)

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Sep 21, 2004, 1:33:05 PM9/21/04

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Hi JC,

If you look more carefully to this solution you will see that it does not change or replace splash screen.
Technically it is completely different approach.

Trough boot.ini you tell ntldr. to show some picture. (It would be same as that BIOS itself shown this picture).
Also at the same time in boot.ini you tell ntoskrnl.exe not to show load progress picture.

So purely from programming side of view you did not changed MS splash screen, but disabled and this is allowed.
Also you told ntldr to show some picture instead of blanking screen, I see no harm in that, no hack were involved.

Just my opinion,
Slobodan

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JC

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Sep 27, 2004, 4:57:59 PM9/27/04

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Slobodan,

Sorry I have been out and away from Email.

I hear what you are saying, and the "official" stance from MS is that
you can show the XPE logo splash or Nothing... You cannot alter, replace,
disfigure, blemish, ETC, ETC... so Reading the string as it's been discussed
here, the guy is looking to show something besides the XPE logo or black at
boot.

I hate the legal mumbo-jumbo...
JMHO...

JC

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Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)

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Sep 27, 2004, 5:36:32 PM9/27/04

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JC,

> I hear what you are saying, and the "official" stance from MS is that
> you can show the XPE logo splash or Nothing...

Exactly!.
/noguiboot is telling to ntoskrnl.exe not to show splash screen.

So this is what MS said that is legal, right?

You cannot:
- alter we do not do that.
- replace we do not do that also.
- blemish (new word to me), there is no flaw that we exploit to change MS logo.
- disfigure - we can disfigure nothing (/noguiboot), right?

> the guy is looking to show something besides the XPE logo or black at boot.

Yes, the guy want this and found a undocumented/uncovered way to do this.
He use /bootlogo switch to tell ntldr to show picture. AFAIK using undocumented functions was not an legal issue before, right?
He use /noguiboot to prevent XPE logo screen from showing later and removing custom picture.

We use MS XP Embedded logo, it is cool to have this logo when presenting product personally and when you have a chance to explain to
customer that this is not regular Windows XP. And that there are no security holes that they hear about every day, etc.

I also hate that legal mumbo-jumbo, but tend to use any feature (documented or undocumented that is not explicitly forbidden for
use) at my disposal to get job done.

Regards,
Slobodan

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